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Cooly100:
Now with this wide expanse of roads, can the government encourage developers to start building high rise close to the roads....?

...then mark the roads and plant trees...

Enugu could be like Kigali...

When can we get another Sullivan Chime...as governor?

Very true.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
Enugu has got a bit of everything though we need a global recognition in one or two aspect.
Enugu has many industries in Emene as well as 9th Mile.
It also has its axe to grind in hospitality and entertainment.

Anybody saying Enugu has got no purpose is a liar.

On the issue of land and it's affordability, I think you guys are only talking of high brow areas. There is no part of the world where such areas don't exist.
The areas around Awkwunanaw, Emene and Enugu suburbs have very cheap lands, you can't be expecting those lands at GRA, independence layout, etc to be 1million a plot. Lands at one day area are at #5-6 million. Those buying the lands at highbrow areas are big Bizmen residing in thr east and then our politicians.
Our brothers in the diaspora aren't left out.

In conclusion, given the good environment, Enugu will do well in service industries bothering on health, information technology, music and nollywood, and Education. I will like a Harvard in Enugu

To say the truth, the region isn't known for anything. It's the people that are known for something. Enugu or Imo is not solving Africa's problem, it's just another African city who depends chiefly on the centre for almost everything.

The African continent is faced with a lot of loopholes that if we get it right and be the biggest servicers and providers of such things, we get the international recognition and the world body will use us to service Africa.

Like Onitsha market which used to be the biggest market in West Africa have now turned to a local standard market. We could have built on reputation and create bigger structures that can serve the whole continent plus as a tourist site.

We are not getting it right in the east from a collective point. We are getting it right from personal point. Like we hustle hard, try to make money and do things but for the future, we have not built for tomorrow. No system that can sustain us in the next couple of years.

We are not looking at it but we keep moving in circles.

0monnak0da:
You work together by taunting people? By talking about the Biafra war? That is how to work together? Spare us the hypocrisy.

You folk are waiting to see the humiliaation of those who you continue to bear ancient grudges against. What is the point of this thread? Is it to "work together"

You are hated for your BAD MOUTH. Aways bitter, always spiteful and nasty .

I have studied you long enough to know that this bad mouth is the same way Eboes relate to each other and so they don't get it when other people do not find it funny.

The number one problem is atotal lack of interactional skills and so you just talk anyhow.

Since 1970, it is our bad mouth that has cost the nation this misfortune right?.

Who from the igbo lineage have caused Nigeria bad with bad mouth apart from Nnamdi kanu? You leave someone who is stealing and attack who is singing.

Nigerians ehn.

hammer6F:
BASED ON THE FACT THAT THIS THREAD HAVE CONTINUED DESPITE VIOLATING RULE 2 AND INSULTING AN ENTIRE TRIBE.


I AM CONVINCED BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT THAT SEUN OSEWA IS BEHIND THE THREAD.


ALL THIS THREAD DEPICTS IS THE BITTER NATURE OF THE AVERAGE YORUBA MAN.


HIS OBSESSION OVER THE PEOPLE OF THE EAST.


TRULY, THE AVERAGE YORUBA MAN IS A MENTAL WRECKAGE.


HOW ELSE DO U EXPLAIN EARLY MORNING OPENING THREAD ABOUT THE ALMIGHT IGBO HE SERVES AND OBSESS OVER.


FUNNY ENOUGH, IGBO DONT SHARE YOUR OBSESSION, WE JUST TOLERATE AND WAIT FOR OUR OWN SEPARATE NATION FROM THE MAD AFONJA.


HECK, WE DONT EVEN LIKE YOU THE YORUBAS.

So do you mean our politicians are saints and shouldn't be chastised?

Dremca:
Onitsha is still ahead in terms of ICT hub, at least in the south east with the presence of Aptech, NIIT and other outlets not forgeting smile Internet Service Provider has the only south eastern coverage in onitsha.


It also seems that Enugu is the maitama or the florida of south east where Igbo elite go to relax and retire. Eg, Arthur Eze, Alex Ekwueme. But the city will thrive more if more businesses spring up to create jobs.

Aptech and NIIT are tutorial centres. We need a real ICT hub which can solve real problems. One of the CEO of computer warehouse is an igbo man but we don't have these things in the east. We need a real push and not makeovers that we are seeing at the moment.

LiberaDeus:
Leave them let them be talking sh*t.

I dont have a problem with their oodua land as long as they dont sit on the fence.

They are too complacent, cowardly and lazy. They think sitting on the fence and waiting for things to materialize is wisdom.

In the creation of nigeria, Zik was pro nigeria(sth i blame him for), Sardauna was anti and later turned pro. Awo was sitting on the fence, he waited to see the stronger side so he could join. They never want to drive initiative because of fear.

When 1967 came, they clearly new seperation was right but supported the bigger side and hence made the easier decision. Today they are complaining of igbo migration, what did their fathers think in 1967? that we would be eating orji in the east throughout Nigerias existence while they cart away with every federal benefit.

Tinubu had been shouting restructuring since, immediately a pathway came to enjoy unitary govt, Tinubu and all his cronies suddenly think restructuring or a national conference is needless.

The other cr-etin on the other thread alcatraz was talking abt leaving the country and urging others to do so, now they have seen the country is going nowhere they now want the easy solution.

Imagine a sizeable percentage of an educated and so called cosmopolitan ethnic group following the hero of almajiris, in the north Buhari is worshipped by almajiris and sophisticated yorubas think the god of the almajiris is fit to be their god also, what a shame.

Lets enjoy one nigeria together. in 2 generations, lagos would be so cosmopolitan that the tribal identity would be so erased.

You keep giving them a heavy knock on the head. These people think they can eat the spoils alone without others joining in the table, they are so wrong.

We will keep enjoying Lagos until Nigeria cease to exist then we can return to our hometowns with pockets full of our own rations.

Strikethem:
Nice you are as.itting you are immigrant. Enjoy your stay. The owners are the ones in control. Sorry okay

That's the stupidity of an average Yoruba man. You rule Lagos and I make money from Lagos. How does that pain me? What do I want to gain from ruling Lagos? I don't think any igbo man dreams of ruling it. What do you even say you control? The economic space we compete with in everything?

Guy, we are enjoying what you enjoy and we are suffering what you suffer in Lagos. So what's the difference?

Enugu is a place that is good for cool investments like building one of the biggest ICT hub in Africa like silicon valley and also building biggest health facilities in Africa. Enugu can provide these services to the whole of Africa and make serious billions in dollars.

Our states should have a direction. What they are known to do. What the people specialize in doing. You don't just have a state where the people are masters of nothing. Just build houses with environment not having economic value.

People need investment so that they can have jobs and even be more creative.

Seriously, we are not doing it right in the east. We are just building beautiful houses to impress everyone while we run out to pursue other things in other places.

horsepower101:
This is just the bitter truth. But they will remain in denial. It's their way.

They keep screaming oodua as if the old man left ile-ife before he died. The only people we should thank for this discovery are the British and the federal government. They made Lagos have the advantage, so since we still follow the economic pattern of the former, then nobody should complain.

This is the crass thinking of a typical Yoruba man, he thinks because Lagos is a yoruba state that means he has influence more than others in the entity called Nigeria. Like my brother said, we are all immigrants in Lagos and we all went to look for breakfast so that we won't die before nightfalls.

There is no shame in admitting the sweet truth.

LaudableXX:
Go and do the head count and come back and share the results. Paste it here, so we can read and verify. For you to make this assertion about Orile, it shows you are being economical with the truth, or just taking refuge in lies. Na una way be dat!

Bros, I know Orile, ijora, Badia, ajegunle and environs pass you. You can't even argue that. Why will you even say that, you think everyone you see online know nothing about the southwest? Tomorrow is Saturday, just take a stroll around the area and let us know your findings.

LaudableXX:
Sadly everyone can see that you are the one that is not making sense, on this thread. Go back and read up on the the build up, to the civil war. Your Oxford trained bearded general declared secession, seized federal govt assets in the Southeast, and refused to rescind his decision, even after a police action was declared to bring him back into line.

Several emissaries at home and abroad tried to get him to see reason, but he refused. He knew that his region lacked ammunition, men and materials to go to war, yet he refused to back down and this decision cost his people 3 million souls. After he declared secession, was he expecting the rest of the country to applaud him and give him a send off party, especially when he had seized federal govt assets in the SE region?

Secondly, what strange "factors of production located in a particular region through the handy work of the federal government over the years," are you talking about? Is it the sea port? Isn't there a seaport close to the SE region, like the Port-harcourt seaport? Port-harcourt seaport has been in operation long before the colonial masters left. Not too far from there is Onne sea port, which was established closer to the SE. In fact, Onne sea port which covers an area of 2,538.115 hectares was also added, several years ago. Are you talking about an airport? Hasn't there been an international airport in Port-harcourt for several years? Akanu Ibiam International Airport in Enugu also started receiving international flights a few years back.

The federal capital was moved from Lagos to Abuja in 1991, more than 27 years ago, but your people have not stopped trooping into Lagos till today. And that bring us back to the same question. Why can't they stay in their region and make a success of their endeavours?

If your region was so economically viable, with an active business environment like you said, and active construction or building projects, why do your young people still troop into other regions daily, trying to eke out a living? is it that they cannot take advantage of the economic viability in the SE region?

Nobody is disputing the fact that igbos are not found in other parts of the country, but the question still remains: Why? They can be found in areas that are not even economically viable, in different parts of this nation. So if your region is as fantastic and as economically viable as you claim, what is chasing them out of the place? Now, why would anyone leave a commercially vibrant region for a non-viable one?

Last but not the least, I never said that there was nobody in the Southeast. Try not to confuse me with someone else. Nobody has said that "there is any state in Nigeria apart from Southwest that the Yorubas are more active than the Igbos," so only goodness knows where you got that ideology from. Please try to think clearly before rushing to hit your keyboard next time. May God grant you understanding....

So in your own wack theory, the police action wasn't a call for war but to pamper the igbos? This guy is really high seriously.

The Chinese that you find in all states in the federation, you mean those states are more economically viable than China? The igbos are only capitalising on the opportunity they find everywhere. In fact you will be amazed at the number of igbos you find Benue state and other states in the country. It's not the matter of Lagos, if you find an opportunity in Lagos, you go to Lagos and if you find in Kano, you go to Kano.

You cannot say people leave the east because there is no opportunity in the east. There are still people making money in the east everyday. So your postulation doesn't count at all.

LaudableXX:
Don't be silly. I grew up in Lagos, schooled in Lagos and have worked in Lagos for several years. I doubt if you know Lagos more than I do. So stop your silly posturing. And most of what you just said up here, is nothing but a bloody fat lie! Orile, Ijora, Ajegunle, Oshodi, Badia, and environs are NOT dominated by Yorubas, but by the Igbo.

Orile is one of the largest markets for building materials, furniture and fixtures in Lagos. Who are those that populate that area? Igbo. What does that area look like? A glorified slum. The largest number of tile sellers, bath & WC retailers, cement resellers, door importers etc, can be found in Orile. Ijora as well as Ajegunle are close to the Apapa seaport, and your people are the largest inhabitants of that densely populated axis. So stop saying what you do not know! What year did you arrive in Lagos, sef?

If we go to these areas and we do head count, you will be sure that igbos are more? This Orile wey I know inside out? Orile wey I go secondary school? Abi eleyi o Mo on Orile.

My guy, you will just lose all your money if we bet seriously. Orile is majorly occupied by Yorubas, Bini's and igbos. The Yorubas are the majority because they are even the owners of the houses in that area.

This guy, I am going to teach you those areas and not you teaching me.

LaudableXX:
Genocide? Do you know the meaning of that word? There are many different views on the civil war, and many observers have also made it clear that 'genocide' cannot be used to describe what transpired during the civil war.

The Oxford-trained bearded general who led the Igbo people during that period, actually led them into a war they were thoroughly ill-equipped to embark upon, highly unprepared to tackle, and totally unable to deal with. That was why they were defeated, and lost so many people. May the souls of the departed rest in peace. The truth is also that your leaders within the SE region, have failed woefully over the years, to make your region conducive for growth and habitation, especially when it comes to the provision of infrastructure. This has led your people to develop a wanderlust.

There is a functional seaport in Onne, as well as international airports in Port-harcourt and Enugu. So why can't your people use those facilities? Port-harcourt International Airport has separate facilities for international and domestic flights. In 2009, the airport served 1,081,587 passengers, making it the third-busiest airport in Nigeria.

Some of the overhead bridges and flyovers in Lagos & Ogun, were built recently by the state governors of Lagos, and Ogun state. Ask your own state governors to do the same.

The reasons you listed above are inadequate to account for the daily migration of your people to Lagos, till date. Hold your leaders accountable for failing to develop your land. And follow up with them to ensure that your young people stop migrating into other lands, and stay back to develop their homeland. Their romance with wanderlust needs to stop....

Finally, you have still not answered all the questions I asked. You have only offered excuses to deflect them. So I repeat:

1). Did the Yorubas put a gun to the head of your people, and force them to come to Lagos?

2). Did the Yoruba people make it compulsory for your people to buy land within Lagos?

3). Is there a curse in your region that stops your people from staying inside their region, and becoming hardworking so that they can prosper without having to come to Lagos?

The more you comment, the less sense you make. Did the igbo declaring secession go to Lagos and demanded for it? We're they the first to shoot the first shot? Was the first shot not started in Calabar? Why are you blaming the igbos for a war you waged against us? If you had allowed them be, at least no one will be buying out Lagos as seen in the recent trend.

If the factors of production are located in a particular region through the handy work of the federal government over the years, the people will have to go there to participate in its process. If you don't like it, it's not the problem of the igbos. If your federal government were not smart to have skewed development and still fight against secession, then we can't help you than to keep feeding from you.

We buy lands there because we can afford it. We have the money to buy it. That's how we bought lands in other states in Nigeria. So it's not a Lagos thing.

The notion that the east isn't economically viable is the greatest fallacy of all time. Apart from Lagos, there is no where in the West that has more active business environment than the east. There is no where in the west, that has more active construction of building than the east. So what are you saying? The igbos will compete in all sectors but always fall behind the igbos in many sectors.

Like I said earlier, list any state in Nigeria apart from Southwest that the Yorubas are more active than the Igbos even with their common affiliation to Islam with the north.

If igbos have more impact in this country based on economic strides, then you don't have any argument.

Igbos are found everywhere in this country even in the far north. You cannot say that the east doesn't have a soul there because from last check, we have more than 20million people living in the region which is smaller than Niger state with less than half of the population.

So what's your point?

LaudableXX:
Ajegunle, and Okokomaiko are dominated by your people. And these are some of the largest slums built with bricks in Lagos. Deal with it!

Who are the major Landlords of Ajegunle and Okokomaiko? I don't think you even know quarter of Lagos like you are postulating.
Orile, Ijora, Ajegunle, oshodi, Muslim, badia, fadeyi and environs are dominated by Yorubas. You cannot come and be saying things you don't know.

Okokomaiko is having a facelift because it's a new area and it's becoming open to new development. So calm your nerves, it will have a continuous change as time go on. Ask the people of paniso in Kano how igbos turned the village into a beautiful city in less than 10years.

You cannot compete with igbos. Our presence are felt in every state we have numbers because we contribute massively economically to the environment.

Just name one place outside southwest that the Yorubas are more felt economically than the igbos in Nigeria. Release your numbers while I release mine.

The funniest part is that we don't want Nigeria to survive. We want it to collapse. So if you just go and it collapses, it's good for all of us.

emonkey:
Lagos and Cross River I understand. But Osun State ?!. What a ridiculous picture. That state is finished. They will die inside gbese.
Best thing is for Osun to change their name again so that the creditors will not know who to ask for money.

emonkey:
Lagos and Cross River I understand. But Osun State ?!. What a ridiculous picture. That state is finished. They will die inside gbese.
Best thing is for Osun to change their name again so that the creditors will not know who to ask for money.

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QuotaSystem:
What are you doing about your sickening crime level? Are you not ashamed that 9 out of 10 drug donkeys caught abroad to be executed are your brothers?

Is it not a shame that your people are so hungry and impoverished that they have to produce and sell their own babies to survive? How many safe delivery kits has Obingo donated to your baby factories?

What are you doing about your backwards and satanic rituals that even animals would not practice? Or are you high on corpse water?

Go and learn how to play strategic politics and stop boring me with stories that touch.

5% feeling funky

Have you checked the region with the most violent deaths in the last three months? I think the east have dropped in that aspect.

Just carry your problem and go

TheCabal:
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If the youth in the South turned to agriculture, do you think any grown man would wake up in the morning and claim the north is parasitic? Would you not instead ask yourselves, where all the beans, tomatoes, organic chickens and meat, fish, peas, potatoes, onions, yams, maize, sorghum, carrots and cabbages including cucumbers and peppers have been coming from.

The painful truth is that the average Nigerian youth is lazy, and this is most true in the southern region. Where our children raise over 500 thousand naira to travel to Europe illegally. Majority of them die enroute or end up in Libya as slaves. The girls end up as se.x slaves no matter where they are. The men end up dead or in prison, many have been sodomized brutally, or shot for sport. Yet, the poor northerner remains in his country and uses his 500K to purchase farming input to grow the crops that you eat; still you assume he is parasitic.

Agricultural subsidies are meant for Nigerian farmers not northern farmers. The bulk of it goes to the north only because northerners alone have the patience, grit, dedication and commitment required to till the soil. Ekiti, has one of the finest rice strains in the country but it is in low production. Is this because of lack of land or input? neither, infact, it is because the youth who have graduated from the universities have refused to turn to agriculture, so the old men and women are left to till the soil.

Educated youth can take advantage of government policies and loop holes, they can grow independent and ensure that their offspring are bequeath with a flourishing endowment. Instead, you find them investing their youth in service to prostitution rings or yahoo and cultism.

This one of the craziest replies I have actually gotten in modern time. The fallacy that the north provides all these should be sent into the canal. We get agricultural produce from all parts of the country and the south inclusive. Rice can now be gotten from different states in the south while the north still produce theirs. You can't tell me that the large quantities of rice produced are from subsistence farming. You have forgotten that major organization like Olams are the ones doing the farming in most areas in the country.

Yam, tomatoes, eggs, fish, maize and even meat are not exclusive to the north. People all over the country have ventured into these farming business so stop making it look like they produce all.

And average Almajiri just wakes up and carry blue plates to beg. That's their simple way of life. If they get to a particular age, they either start shayi business or other businesses that are tax exclusive because of the low income.

You were highlighting Nigerians leaving this country and you were just mentioning the negatives, lol. Seriously you are very funny. There are millions of Nigerians making impacts all over the world without doing such things and it will baffle you that the percentage making impacts dwarves the nonsense you highlighted up there.

Moreover, do we get these agricultural products for free or we buy them?

TheCabal:
You mean the lazy youth of the south. Many of whom will rather turn to prostitution, than learn a trade or join cultist and fraudsters.
Some raise as much as 500K to go to libya. Then turn around and tell you Nigeria is hard. I wonder what Nigeria would be if the northerners started to display the oliver twist syndrome plaguing the youths of the se and sw.

How many northerners are on big brother today; they are busy on the farms toiling.

From Benue up all the way to Kebbi, the peasants are tilling the soil day and night.

Most of oil, at least 90% comes from the south-south. This region is the region that has produced the bulk of the wealth since agriculture was abandoned in the North.
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70% of the northern youths are receiving income that are not taxed. Is it the mai shayi that are taxed or the Keke driver? Is it the tomato seller or the advanced Almajiri? They are not taxed for a day while others pay different taxes because they belong to one association or the other.

The agriculture you are yapping about is same. The notion that the north are agriculturally conscious has made the federal government allocate more subsidies to them while they leave the south to scramble for little.

Throwback:
We welcome the Igbos for catching up with the Yorubas again.

Google Taslim Olawale Elias (first African to be president of the World Court/International Court of Justice as far back as 1982), then you can stop gloating after you realise that catch-up is your eternal destiny.

If you do not know, the World Court is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations.

While I celebrate with the Igbos on their lesser achievement with the ICC, I will felicitate with them when they finally attain by catch-up, the superior merit that the Yorubas attained in 1982.

Before Olawale Tasking, Charles In teams has been judge in ICJ. It was even Taslim that succeeded him.

nwabobo:
Who cares? Has their hatred stopped us from leading in all human development indices?

Has it stopped us from owing 75% of landed properties in Abuja?

Has their high cut off for us stopped our kids from trumping theirs in academics?

They can shove their love where'd the sun doesn't shine and if we are too much for them to bear, let them let us go.

If you are not going to sponsor 10people for scholarship then stop causing unnecessary tension. Nobody from the tribes you are trying to malign has commented but you have started insulting them.

Seriously, you guys are the main reasons why igbos are hated. Continue while the hate yields fruit. It might not be now, but it's coming.

blackbeau1:
Dear Engineering graduates, have you ever been on 36 to 48 hr call ?

If you are an engineer in the telecom industry, you will work thrice the time because all base station must be up 24hours not minding if there is a mudslide happening in the area. As you work, you solve new problems everyday from your head.

But in medicine, if there is no cure for a particular ailment, no doctor can improvise. They will leave the person to die.

These guys keep making fun of themselves online. If you feel pained, you can go back in time to change the past so that Ajose will be the first VC.

Guestlander:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJVzMGbpt4


Benben, chew on that.

What you don't understand is that, it's not about having a seaport but it's about how many people needs it.

If Akwaibom gets this seaport right, the five states in the east will naturally dump the Lago seaport and more companies will likely relocate because of the number of customers they will be feeding per time when compared to Lagos.

I am sounding it now. My brothers, move your investments to akwa ibom from the north. That place will explode soon. You need to be first to conquer.

Thank you.

Chikita66:
I will not poison him, that one will kill him fast, he will die a slow and painful death by the time am done making his life miserable.

So it's death that will be the end point. I thought you have bigger plans.

Where is that ebiwali's idiotic blog that carries nothing but useless gossips.

You will still find yourself in prison one say.

Desyner:
What happens when kidnappers overrun the place?

Bros it is not your concern. Face your state and stop fuming. You keep highlighting bad things about the state, what's wrong with you?

Tell us your holy state.