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But I still don't understand why some just decide to throw provocative insults simply because you both do not see things the same way.  Even if you're irritated by another's opinions, there are ways you can express your dissatisfaction without throwing direct insults with words like "fool" and the likes.  Baffles me, really. . . and reminds me of primary school days.

I actually regretted replying him on that thread.

All the same, I'm sorry!

mrpataki,

I am sure that I will be justified if I decide to respond in kind (which I'm very much tempted to do), but considering the fact that this topic is meant to address the very problem you're posing here, I'll let it rest.

And thanks for reinforcing my points. Be cool buddy.

Kobojunkie:
Best I give you a verse from the Bible ( I DO NOT CARE IF YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE BOOK OR NOT, JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN) ,

You sound like I offended you before.

And I still don't understand why those Bible verses are directed at me.  What exactly is your point?

No Way, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AND NO EXCUSE for such. If a fool is a fool, no need for you to become a fool too. Dude, that don't fly!!!

Sorry?

The concept of freewill completely invalidates any possible existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent God. Case closed!

For those who blame the Naija factor on these animalistic behaviours, I seriously doubt if that is the actual reason.  I and some others were once attacked by one of such pixilated barbarians who claims in his profile, to live in the Netherlands, simply because our views were different from his.

Here's one of his prattles:

It is such inanity that those who call themselves christians here, also indulge in such foolishness here. After equating all the Nigerian churches which you can all think of, what happens next to the thread?

Bunch of childish fools.  
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-81559.32.html#msg1554436

I then decided to communicate in the same language as he, when I realised that being civil with someone like him was just a mere waste of time.  There are so many others like him on this forum as well.

God help us!

Mc Omo:
Who is beckham ? someone who is not even d most popular @ what he does ?

Lol.  We're talking of David Beckham of England here, not the beckham at Alausa.

Mc Omo:
Please compare Woods with Fedex !

Did you smoke that stuff before making this post?  Beckham is far more popular than these two combined!

Yeah, and here are more facts. . .

The science of kissing is called philematology.

A one-minute kiss burns 26 calories! A long kiss makes the metabolism burn sugar faster than usual.

The top five foods to avoid 24 hours before kissing are garlic, onions, fish, cheese and pastrami.

A little pucker uses just two muscles around the lips. A passionate kiss (think Diego Luna!) uses all 34 facial muscles.

If you can't brush your teeth or floss, if you're not near mouthwash or sugarfree mints or gum, chewing on parsley can restore you back to sweet smelling breath.

When we kiss, our hearts beat faster and our breathing becomes deep and irregular, mimicking the response of intense exercise. So if done right, kissing can be considered a great cardiovascular workout! At the same time it's a terrific tension reliever. You shut out the world, you close your eyes and you're almost smiling.

One theory says that social kissing originated with medieval knights as a way to find out if their wives had been drinking while they were away fighting.

The average person will spend an estimated two weeks of their lives kissing!

Ancient Egyptians kissed with their noses. Eskimos, Polynesians and Malaysians still do.

Saliva contains antibacterial chemicals that kill most bacteria before the germs are passed on during a kiss. Some say the extra saliva helps prevent tooth decay by cleaning out your mouth!

Our brains have special neurons than help us find each other's lips in the dark.

In Europe it is proper etiquette to greet someone by kissing them on both cheeks.

The longest documented kiss is 29 hours by contestants in 1998 in New York.

In some places kissing is illegal. It was considered a crime in Hartford Connecticut for a husband to kiss his wife on Sunday! And in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, it was a crime to kiss a stranger.

A first kiss is good way to work out if there is any chemistry between you. If it's right, it boosts self-esteem and makes you feel good about yourself.

Kissing signals our brain to produce oxytocin, a hormone that makes us feel good. It's a scientific fact that biology causes one kiss to prompt another!

http://www.beinggirl.com/en_US/pages/articledetail.jsp?ContentId=ART308

Actually, the overall pass mark is 80. I believe anyone should be able to calculate their percentage from this.

Unfortunately, its true. I watched it LIVE on TV.

Yar'Adua had a very big smile on his face while the music was going on. Obviously, he really enjoyed the song. I don't blame him though, because I seriously doubt if he has any idea what "Yahoozee" means or tends to portray.

I'm very glad that my alma mater not only made it to that list, but is also # 9 on the list. Two thumbs up to Dee Unique College!

Unconfirmed report says that the general cut-off mark is 260, which means that departmental cut-off marks for highly competitive courses like Medicine, Law, Engineering, etc will definitely be higher.  I 'heard' that the reason for this is because over 9000 students scored above 200 in the exam, with so many getting incredibly high scores of above 300.  I even heard a female student scored 380, while another student scored 394 .

Unfortunately for you folks, OAU will only admit about 3000 UME students or less, since they will equally admit a lot of students from their pre-degree program as well.  So for those that scored below 200, I advise you opt for remedial programmes or you start preparing for next year's UME (forms are on sale already).  And if you believe in miracles, fast and pray!

Best wishes.

Oops. . sorry!

I actually posted that with the view of him coming from Iyana Ipaja.  I also visit that side frequently.  I was there yesterday and on Monday.  That's why we have to know where he lives so we can tell him whether he should come from Oshodi or Iyana Ipaja.

@yungchap,

Coming from Oshodi, the conductor will call "Egbeda"; but coming from Iyana-Ipaja, the conductor will call "Ikotun Egbeda". Capeesh?

@ yungchap,

Where do you live?  Though I do not know any Orphanage around Akowonjo area, but I could help you with the direction.  As MyPeace said, you can board a bus from Oshodi or Iyana Ipaja going to Ikotun/Egbeda.  You alight at Egbeda bus-stop and cross to the other side of the road (that's Akowonjo road).  You'll see some bike men, so you ask them to take you to the place.

mrpataki,

This is not about whether you bear the same name as someone else. It's about imitating the good demeanour of others that is deficient in you. It's understandable if your message was passed across with anger, but insulting those you're addressing while passing your message across was totally uncalled for. That, definitely, isn't a mature way to address issues, much less, a Christian manner.

I refrained from quoting the post you made earlier, line by line, because it wasn't going to lead us anywhere. I believe, as the Christian you claim to be, you should lead by example. I'll stop here for now.

Cheers.

@ mrpataki

mrpataki:
When I first made reference and postings as to this topic, some little kids were quick to throw insults back without accurately giving justifications as to why this topic is scripturally right.

Perhaps, those "little kids" wouldn't have thrown insults back at you if you, who portrayed yourself as some saint, hadn't started off with the exchange.  Your words could have been at least, reasonable enough to respond to in like manner if you hadn't been so vulgar in your first post.  I suggest you take a leaf out of OlowoTee who didn't see the need to call us fools in order to get her well-thought points across. . . that's how a Christian should respond to opposing views.

Cheers bro!

OlowoTee:
Agreed, that the word 'covenient' is a relative term. Quote was from KJV. Maybe other translations would explain better:

From New International Version
"Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving."

From New Living Translation
" Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes—these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God.
"
From New American Standard
"and there must be no (A)filthiness and silly talk, or coarse jesting, which (B)are not fitting, but rather (C)giving of thanks"

The translation wasn't my worry, but the way you chose to apply the verse itself in this context. You see our actions as "foolish talk and coarse jokes", but I see no such thing, and therefore, I do not see how that verse applies to us.

OlowoTee:
lol. . .
I only quoted the relevant passage to the discussion here, I could have as well quoted the whole verses 3 & 4. But I chose to pick part of 3 and ended with verse 4, The message is still intact and nothing changed
"But fornication, and all uncleanness, or coveteousness, let if not be named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not covenient; but rather giving of thanks."

Again, I do not see the relevance of the passage to our discussion.

OlowoTee:
Supposedly, every child of God is given the Spirit of God to be able to discern between good and bad! Some jokes are not just profitable.

True. But how do you determine which jokes are profitable or not? Agreed, there are some that we can unanimously conclude, aren't good for us. But in a situation like this one, you can only speak for yourself. Others have been thanking the poster for easing them off the day's stress, while you, mrpataki and some others think it's just gross. So who do we go with on this?

OlowoTee:
[the highlighed!] that is the point! There are some with bad intentions! Which we've got to avoid as Christians.

I'm not exactly sure you got my message there. In this case, the intention (at least, the way I see it), is a positive one.

OlowoTee:
Maybe you do not know, I enjoy comedy as well, very well. I could serve as a stand- up comedian too, lol. . . . but there is a limit! I'm pretty sure you won't ever find me in a congregation of blasphemous comedians. . At least, in all that we do, we should give Him the glory!

You definitely won't find me in a congregation of blasphemous comedians either. . . but that depends on what you personally find blasphemous, that I don't.

And if you ask me, I really do think that you guys are just being unnecessarily over-religious over this issue (no disrespect). There is a sharp difference between making fun about Christianity in general, and making fun of the churches around us. The former, you will never see me engage in. But for the latter, apart from the fun in it, I believe it should also make one reflect on one's perspective about these churches, especially when some have long worshipped the buildings and blindly followed their pastors instead of following the core teachings on which Christianity was established. In other words, this comparism could serve as an eye opener to some.

You guys should try to see the brighter side of this. Lighten up!

Cheers.

OlowoTee:
It's BAD. Period

How?

OlowoTee:
the fact that the comedians do it, doesn't make it RIGHT! It's wrong, there're some costly jokes we shouldn't get involved in!

I agree.

OlowoTee:
Read this:

". . . .Let it not be named among you as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting which are not convenient: but rather giving thanks." Ephesians 5:3, 4

It simply implies that there are some jokes and jesting which are not convenient!

That word "covenient" is a relative term.  It depends on who and how it applies.  One cannot use his own standard to determine how such a relative term affects others.
Also, are you aware you selectively quoted that passage?  It's just like someone that quotes a particular part of the Bible that says ". . . and the liar was condemned to hell", and quickly concludes that all liars will perish, without bothering to note the context in which that statement was made.

OlowoTee:
You don't need to be a muslim-fanatic-turned-Christian to reproof such??  _{Let's not grieve the Holy Spirit!}

True.  But who determines whether something grieves the Holy Spirit in a situation like this?  Please don't get me wrong, of course I acknowledge what the Bible says on sins committed against the Holy Spirit, but the question is, who sets the standard for determining what grieves the Holy Spirit?

I think when issues like this arise, we should be conscious of the intent of whoever performs the 'controversial' act.  Some people do what seems to be good, with bad intentions, and vice versa.  I also think you should re-read the instance FemiD gave earlier on (about how God could perform His wonders), so you'll have a better understanding of my views.

OlowoTee:
Thank You

Cheers.

Okay mrpataki,

Thanks for your 'spiritually edifying' post.

Cheers!

I agree with femionasan.

Has anyone also noticed that this story was lifted from a blog, which was also gotten from another blog? Until I see a direct link from a reputable news website that confirms this story, I'll take this as another attempt by the white folks to disparage our beloved country.

But assuming the story is true . . .

@egoldman, I'm yet to read any part of that reports that says, "Bill Gates was refused viase because he filled his visa from incorrectly". Or are you reading yours in Hindi language?

@Big B1: What "law" are you talking about?

@ texazzpete

texazzpete:
The guys stripping the trousers off the women weren't calling on the name of Jesus!

No one said they were. But someone on another thread related it to Islam/Sharia
(Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-80272.0.html#msg1512043)

But even then, your comparism here is invalid. Just as Afam stated, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Even from my limited knowledge, I do know that Islam permits women to put on trousers. . . even to mosques!

Hello guys,

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Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Hello guys,

OAU Post-UME results are out. If you sat for the exam last week Saturday, you can check your result online now. http://eportal.oauife.edu.ng/postume.php

Good luck ya'll!

Infact, let me take the pain to quote your gibberish line by line.

mrpataki:
Proverbs 26:5 -Answer a fool according to his folly, Lest he be wise in his own eyes.
So I owe no man no apology here.

Are you aware that you have completely butchered the original intent of that verse?  First of all, no one asked for your opinion, so there was absolutely no point answering us according to our "folly".  Secondly, you have taken this particular verse completely out of context, and you've applied it in the wrongest way ever.  Even an atheist would do a better exegesis of that portion of the Bible!  What a Christian!

mrpataki:
I will ask you, since you are the originator of this useless topic, of what spiritual edification does this topic add to ones growth in Christianity?

First, since this topic did not in any way edify you spiritually, why did you bother to respond?  Just to 'blow grammar' and tell us that we are fools?  And you suppose that is a Christian thing to do, Mr. Holy-Holy?
And even puristically speaking, your grammar isn't impressive.

mrpataki:
Do you even know what chrisitianity means at all?

From my own limited knowledge, I still know for sure that Christianity is not about calling people fools when you do not agree with them.  But since you seem to know better than the rest of us, pray tell.

mrpataki:
Your mates are crying for a revival all over the world, you sit down behind the computer imagining Churches to Banks What a puerile mindset you have.

What mates?  And why haven't you joined in the cry for a revival as well?  Oh I forget, your own job, as a "Christian" is to stay behind, reminding people of how "foolish" they are.  God must really be proud of you.

mrpataki:
For every idle word you speak, you shall give account for it. It is written in the bible: Iron Sharpeneth iron, so a friend sharpeneth the countenance of his partner.

Please spare me the sanctimony!  What has this got to do with what we're discussing?

mrpataki:
When you were logging into this topic it says Religion: Share your faith and belief in God or other spiritual powers, not to come here and do a multi-comparism analysis of Nigerian Churches with Nigerian Banks.

Since you saw the inscription yourself, one would have hoped that you would also come to share your faith and belief in God, not to come here, calling people fools.  Who the hell do you think you are?

mrpataki:
Enuff said!
Bunch of nonsense.

I love you too.

mrpataki:
What an absolute composition of nonsense! So God is pleased with the comparism of churches to banks?

What an absolute composition of nonsense (x 10)!  So God is pleased with your calling others, who have not offended you, fools?

mrpataki:
When man wants to sin, he will look for excuses to gratify his sinful desires even from the bible. Give me a scripture which validates your bunkum, all this JJC sef

What hope of salvation does this bring to many? That churches are financial houses for financial transactions? Was that message of Jesus Christ?

I can see you still have a long way to go in understanding matters of the kingdom. Keep on with your milk sucking.
Oh that I woukd have you to handle strong meat, alas. . . . . . . . . . . .

My piece to you ends here.

Evacuate the log in your own eyes before attempting to remove the speck in another's eyes.
And please save us the didactic lecture.  You're beginning to bore me!

mrpataki:
I keep making the mistake of thinking that people are always enlightened for reasonable discourse. You happened to prove that my assumption wrong.
Have a blessed day.

And have you wondered why you keep making that same mistake?  Perhaps, because you're too dull to comprehend the magnitude of their intelligence . . .  perhaps?

Have a wonderful day too! . . . and remember, Jesus loves us!