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FIX ELECTRICITY, and every other thing shall follow!

@mrpataki,

Since you have now made it a point of duty to keep pointing out spelling errors in my posts, just know that I'm very much up to the task as well, considering the fact that yours is far worse than just spelling errors.

Anyway, I love the way you are so confident of yourself, albeit foolishly. Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to respond to issues. Boy, be prepared to eat your words very soon!

Pain:
How Do You Reach Those With No Access To ICT. How Do You Intend To Reach Over 65% of the Population That Lives On The Other Side of The Digital Chasm? Where Is The Bridge.

They do not live on space, do they?

[size=14pt]Meanwhile. . .[/size]

Our First Charity outing as a club is this weekend. 3pm Saturday, 15th December, 2007

Based on the votes of the members, we have decided to add value to 4 Cases this week. Two of these cases are critical public health cases that we can donate money to without any major paraphernalia. Some of our delegates will go ahead and do this ahead of us.

The rest of us will be going to two places on Saturday. Remand Home Boys Oregun and Modupe Cole, Okota. We’ll be giving them some of the items they have requested for as needs, spend some time with them and help them refurbish some of their dilapidated structures. In Modupe Cole we’ll be helping them to build a shed, as some of the workshop exercises they have are being done in the sun. In the Remand Home, we will confirm with them today whether it is renovation of one of their hostels that is urgent or helping them with an internet ready computer room.

We will be having coverage for the event from 12 Newspaper houses and 3 Television houses. The News Agency of Nigeria that supplies news for international stations will also be present. Like we confirmed to our members, we want to add visible value.

Modus Operandi

1. All members will need to go to their members’ area and click on the events link and chose to join to be a part of this event. This will help us know how many people to prepare for.

2. We will be renting a bus or buses depending on our numbers. This bus will convey us from 71 Allen Avenue, beside UBA to our destinations. We will depart from this venue at 3pm New Nigeria Time.

3. All interested members should dress in casual ware with a New Nigeria T-Shirt. If you don’t have one, there will be some available for sale at departure.

4. We will be taking some carpenters; painters and other specialists along, these ones will lead the refurbishing projects and will continue after we are gone.

Don’t just wait to hear about how this went, be a part of it. This is one of the things the New Nigeria is about… working together to make the lives of others better.

This is the best way to start!
http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/12/12/charity-event-update-urgent/


@mrpataki, are you still in doubt?

Bhola:
I will first pick up every and all past Local government chairmen, state governors, senators, house of reps, presidents, vps, all off them and lock them up, after I have frozen all their accounts. I will try and recover all the stolen monies from them, then tie each one, starting from the one that stole the most, to a pole and have junior officers of the army or police shoot at them, not kill them at the first shot. Maybe, kill them after like five shots.

Then, I will show the video to each person that will be serving under me and let them see what will happen to them, if I ever find out that they stole one naira. That is what I will do.

p.s: sometimes, some people have to be treated like goats.

LMAO!  Personally, I would rather those thieves be tied to a pole NAKED, and BRUTALLY FLOGGED TO DEATH with horse whips.  This should be done in the poorest or the most neglected part of the community, and BY THE PEOPLE of that community where the thief had "served", so that they can vent all their frustration on him/her by whipping the LIVING SH*T out of him/her.  Then when he/she is almost dead, they should be BURNT TO ASHES.  Then as you suggested, the video of this should be shown to every intending public office holder to serve as a deterrent.

Interesting. . . what's their office address or website?

@Kobojunkie

@Purist,
My point in laymans terms is this, We have no RIGHT (as Christians) flexing or criticizing this pastor and his group for choosing to spend their money the way they want. I mean you might scream and holla that your being able to criticize whomever you want is ok by you and that is fine but all you have in doing that is bad belle ( which for Christians is itself unacceptable behaviour) but when you go out to criticize persons like the others listed you have a point to make in that case since they are thieves and are legally supposed to be held responsible. Like I mentioned again, it was a debate between Christians and since I do not subject you to same the standards as I would those I know who tell me they are( unless you tell me you are one then you become subject to the laws in your Bible), then there is no need for you to bother with it. Simple!!!

If you do not know it, yes, there does exist a code when it comes to claiming to be Christian and if you followed the conversation like I suggested, you would not miss the part where I was refering to CHRISTIANS and not just anyone in my claims.

Please read all and do no skip the portions about God and what God demands of us and what not. I Checked to see if Seun had modified the posts but I see they are as posted last night so feel free to check them out from the beginning please @Purist

You still don't get it, do you? I'm NOT arguing about rights or no rights with you here. I personally haven't spoken any ill of the MOG here, since I'm somewhat indifferent to the whole issue, so that's not the issue. The point I'm trying so hard to drive into your thick skull ( ) is that THERE IS NO BASIS FOR THE COMPARISM YOU MADE IN THE FIRST PLACE! Your point is understandable, but you shouldn't have brought in IBB, OBJ and others into this discourse to compare them with Adeboye, because THAT ALREADY INVALIDATES YOUR ARGUMENT! This is my point, in layman's terms. Thank you!

Kobojunkie:
Does anyone have at least a picture or two of this auditorium for us to see?? I would like to visit such a building when I am in Africa next. I mean for Nigeria to have the largest auditorium in the world , I mean is there like a school attached ?? I would like to send my kids to some decent school out there.

What I saw on TV was not attractive at all, and that's why I doubt the figures.

@Kobojunkie

Here's your first post on this thread:

All of you here no get mouth to go tell IBB, Obasanjo and the many people wey dey steal from you all for generations to put back money but you all have mouth to attack church wey they build with money them collect.

Everyone here has ALWAYS criticized IBB, OBJ and others for their theft.  Some people here are doing exactly the same thing to Pastor Adeboye - CRITICIZE!  Now, if you mean, why haven't they personally confronted IBB, OBJ and others, then I say, it is not important - in this regard - since NO ONE here has threatened or decided to go confont Adeboye either.

)LMAO!!! Talk about Nigerians and their misplaced priorities.

IBB STOLE FROM YOU ALL,  Not a single one of you have confronted him. The Guy built a Humongous Building with the money that belongs to you and your children, right on top of a Hill. Yet no single one of you all have touched him or even stepped forward.

He stole, yes.  No one here has confronted him, yes.  But NO ONE has also confronted Adeboye too, or touched him, or even stepped forward.  Note, all the verbal criticisms will only end here, just as usual.

Obasanjo STOLE FROM YOU ALL,  NOt a single one of you have confronted him yet. The guy runs his farm with your money and pockets it daily.

He stole, yes.  No one here has confronted him, yes.  But NOT A SINGLE ONE has also confronted Adeboye too, or touched him, or even stepped forward.  Note, all the verbal criticisms will only end here, just as usual.

Adedibu,  the 80 something who is not done pocketing the money wey your papa and mama for use live better life,  is still there daily in your face, daring you all to come at him . NO ONE ,

He's pocketing the money, yes.  No one here has confronted him, yes.  But NO ONE has also confronted Adeboye too, or touched him, or even stepped forward.  Note, all the verbal criticisms will only end here, just as usual.

ABACHA stoles from you all and passed the money down to generations of his kids. Even say the man die, una no fit touch his family for fear. '

He stole, yes.  No one here has confronted him, yes.  But no one has also confronted Adeboye too, or touched him, nor his family.  Note, all the verbal criticisms will only end here, just as usual.

But a Pastor and his congregation decide to collect together their own money to build a 7.7 b Church and Nigerians decide to YARI!!! LMAO!!!

Note:  Everyone here is only doing exactly what they have often done in the past to those you mentioned - YARI, TALK, CRITICIZE, BADMOUTH, etc.

Lord have mercy on us all.!!!!!! Africa NA WA O!!!!


        LA I LA I LA LA OW You !!!!

I'm only trying to make you see that your comparism of the situation here with those of the political leaders is COMPLETELY INVALID, since NO ONE here has has threatened fire and brimstone on Adeboye for building a N7.7bn auditorium, contrary to what you're trying to paint out here, and none has made any less comments than they would have, if it were any of those thieves you mentioned.  In other words, your argument that people who are talking against Adeboye, would not confront IBB, OBJ and others, just doesn't fit.  Understood?

@Kobojunkie

@Purist. What in my post did you not understand?? Are you saying you have personally filled a case against those listed to justify you coming here to criticize the pastor and his congregation for choosing to build one Auditorium as against 1000 mini auditoriums to please you ?? Have you collected the money that actually belongs to you and yours from the thieves that have for decades continued to steal from you in broad day light for you to come in here today to call this congregation fraudsters for choosing to spend their own hard earned money to build this auditorium together?? Is that clear enough?? @Purist

Do you understand that these people have a better chance of getting you canned and even having you pay fines for libel than you have to get the law to give you right to accuse them of not doing things according to the way you want it done instead?? Poor or not, It is not against the law in Nigeria to build a massive auditorium and it is certainly not against the law to decided to pitch together and build a huge beach front Taj Mahal if you want to. So again, all the critics have nothing but bad belly to offer and nothing more than than SIMPLE!!!

My point is that your argument doesn't hold water.  In your first post, you said no one has personally confronted IBB, OBJ and others, isn't it?  And my reply to that was that, people here are doing exactly what they have always done to those you mentioned - CRITICIZE, BADMOUTH, etc.  If anyone here now decides to personally confront or file a case against Pastor Adeboye, only then would your argument be valid.  But since no one has done that here, and are simply criticizing, the way they would normally do to any public office holder that loots, this therefore renders your argument/comparism completely invalid.

Seun:
No. If they just wanted to accommodate their members they'd just open more branches. There would be no annual jamboree that all members must attend. They want to create big, lucrative spectacles like the Christ Embassy Crusades, RCCG Monthly Holy Ghost camp meetings, and Canaanland's Shiloh Festival.

How so? Well, people tend to be impressed by gigantic edifices. If you have a home church, you get disciples. If you have a small church, you get worshippers. if you have a gigantic edifice, you get pilgrims. Guess which group parts with money most readily? Many people who would normally pay 50 naira offering in their local church, will easily pay 500 naira for 'prosperity' if they find themselves in Canaanland during Shiloh!

Oh my God! That was an excellent analysis!

@chrisoml

chrisoml:
Please does anyone in the house have any idea on possible location(s)
of large GOLD deposit here in Nigeria that can last at least up to 10 years
on mining contract that can be producing a minimum of 5kg per week?

I'm not sure about the quantity, but gold was discovered in Kebbi State recently.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-91063.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-91247.0.html

See also: At What Point Are You A Millionaire?

"In my 100 Level, I will catch all the fun I can and chase all the girls I want. When I get to 200 level, I will start getting serious."

This is the greatest mistake many JAMBITES have made that eventually cost them many things, most especially, a First Class.


@ dapsins69, congrats, and FACE YOUR BOOKS!

@mrpataki

It's really amazing how you sometimes reason.

mrpataki:
No constant power supply, blame the government!

So whoelse it to be blamed for this?  The people?  Because, according to you, it is their own "failure"??

mrpataki:
No food on the table, blame the government!
No good clothes to wear, blame the government!
Armed robbers are on the increase, blame the government!
Houses are built without proper layout and design, blame the government!

In reality, the government is partly to be blamed for all these.

mrpataki:
Houses are demolished for a better environment, blame the government!
Masses are not relocated to a better place, blame the government!

And who else is to be blamed?  The people, for "allowing" the government to displace them of their legally occupied abode, all in the name of creating a better environment, without making any attempts to offer them alternatives??

@ topic & Everyone

[size=14pt]Akolawole just raised a very pertinent question here.[/size]

[size=14pt]HOW TRUE IS THE FIGURE?[/size]

I personally saw this auditorium on TV last night, and as lafile rightly said, it's just an open space on a massive piece of land with roof and I think wooden pillars, with plastic chairs and wooden benches in it.  It's NOT some kind of edifice like that of Winners Chapel or T. B Joshua's Synagogue.  So PM news (which by the way, is noted for junk journalism) means just these things cost a whooping N7.7bn?


That being said, I think many have raised very important points here.

@ kobojunkie

All of you here no get mouth to go tell IBB, Obasanjo and the many people wey dey steal from you all for generations to put back money but you all have mouth to attack church wey they build with money them collect.

)LMAO!!! Talk about Nigerians and their misplaced priorities.

IBB STOLE FROM YOU ALL,  Not a single one of you have confronted him. The Guy built a Humongous Building with the money that belongs to you and your children, right on top of a Hill. Yet no single one of you all have touched him or even stepped forward.

Obasanjo STOLE FROM YOU ALL,  NOt a single one of you have confronted him yet. The guy runs his farm with your money and pockets it daily.

Adedibu,  the 80 something who is not done pocketing the money wey your papa and mama for use live better life,  is still there daily in your face, daring you all to come at him . NO ONE ,  

ABACHA stoles from you all and passed the money down to generations of his kids. Even say the man die, una no fit touch his family for fear. '

EVEN your EFCC has not even touched any one of them

But a Pastor and his congregation decide to collect together their own money to build a 7.7 b Church and Nigerians decide to YARI!!! LMAO!!!

Lord have mercy on us all.!!!!!! Africa NA WA O!!!!


        LA I LA I LA LA OW You !!!!

What exactly do you mean here?  Everyday, people criticize OBJ, IBB and others here, so what do you mean by what you just typed up there?

@Seun,

Quality education is not cheap, agreed. But in a country like Nigeria where poverty level is quite high, how on earth do you expect students to pay so much for something they are entitled to? As I noted in a post I once addressed to you, one thing you fail to realise is that public education, whether at the primary, secondary or university level is a public, social service. It is the responsibility of the government to the youths and should be offered at a cost that the people can reasonably be expected to afford.

Besides, you and I know too well that the school authority is most likely not going to use the increase to fix anything much in the school (that's if they'll even fix anything at all).

@mrpataki,

mrpataki:
First you made notes towards GTB, now it is Oceanic bank.

And what exactly is your problem here? Weren't you the one that remarked that if we were genuine, that why aren't we patnering with any bank? Now, as you can see, we are indeed patnering with one. . . and whether it's GTB, Oceanic or UBA should not be a contention.

And yeah. . . I mentioned GTB earlier, because the project leader told us back then that he had discussed with some ladies from GTB on the issue. I guess there was a change of plans thereafter. Mind you, I also asked him why the card has an Oceanic bank logo, and his response was, "We are not pawns in the hand of any bank, expect to either see different banks on the cards or no bank at all."

Regards.

Hi Seun,

There isn't any much difference, as far as using it in an ATM, goes.  But with the card, you're recognized as a bona fide member of the NNC wherever you go.  It also helps to reduce the levels of bureaucracy involved in getting the deals being offered to members.  Moreso, if you read the content of the link I put there, you'll see that those that choose to partake in the health deal before December 20, will have health access codes on their cards, which will give them access to first class medical care at over 80% discount.

@ Others (Blatant, Afam, Big B1 & BlackMamba)

I appreciate your sense of maturity.  Even though you guys have your doubts, I'm glad you're wise enough not to descend to the level of name-calling.

The concept of the NNC is actually to use a sort of social networking to build a critical mass of 5,000,000 Nigerians, who will be active participants of the nation building.  Through this networking, members will be able to share ideas, proffer solutions, and execute these solutions.  We'll not only be talking, we shall ACT as well.

Amongst the many projects we will be embarking on, is the community development.  The club will, in the little way it can, help develop areas where government has paid little or no attention to.  This will involve giving to the needy of such communities to cater for themselves, funding neglected public schools, offering scholarships to public school students, etc.  Already, we're working on this, and the school concerned for now is Ojodu Community Secondary School.  Someone also suggested, in the first meeting held, that some sort of "Shadow Government" should be formed. . . I believe this is currently being looked into.

The benefits I highlighted previously are just there to add value to the membership, and to get more people interested.  We realise that Nigerians would naturally hesitate to partake in anything productive, unless there is a motivation/reward for it. So for taking a conscious decision to be a part of this national reform, the club management feels that club members deserve these benefits, and they're working frantically on getting the other deals available to the members (at the moment, there are just 3 deals). Whether this is elitist or not, is debatable, depending on the way you see it.

Moreso, the club currently has some N1.3m available, and members are being asked to vote on which project they want the money to be used on (there are about 8 options).  The one with the highest vote gets the money.  This project will be embarked on this week, I think.

@Blatant, I'm neither their secretary, nor the treasurer.  I'm just an ordinary member of the club.  Besides, we already have many Nigerians in diaspora joining already, so I'm definitely not here for any foreign currency.

@others,

If anyone cares, you can send a mail to newnigeriaclub@gmail.com to request for a powerpoint presentation and a copy of the NNC Ideology (PDF version) sent to you.  These files contain virtually everything you may like to know concerning the NNC.  I would have attached them here, but the files are larger than 200KB.

Regards.

@mrpataki,

It's funny how you keep dribbling around, using unnecessary (and sometimes, inapplicable) big words, while at the same time, contradicting yourself, all in a bid to sound like some intelligent scambaiter. At first, you're so sure that I am a scammer, and in the same breath, you assume that I am one, until proven otherwise. Don't you think it's rather unwise and somewhat immature to presumably confer an objectionable status on someone, based on your own sentiments? I am really tempted to go into the mud with you, but I'll just end it here. Now, run along. .

mrpataki:
[quote author=Purist link=topic=97484.msg1739823#msg1739823 date=1196617768]Actually, arrangements are currently being made with GTB (arguably the biggest/best bank in Nigeria at the moment) on something the management wants done for all club members - Naija Branded ID cards with interswitch magnetic strips, personal identity and hologram. Hopefully, this will become available when we're in full launch.

Wishful thinking.[/quote]https://deoluakinyemi.com/images/ATM%20Card.jpg

Every great achievements have their inspiration from wishful thoughts. You can ask the Wright Brothers (I'm sure they were criticized and heavily discouraged as well). Anyway, the cards will be available to members as from January 1, 2008. This one is just a draft.
Read more: http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/12/04/coming-soon/


Regards.

Meanwhile, here's an update on the available deals, it was sent to my box this morning.

Hello Friend,

We are practically trying our best to control the pushing out of the deals, and we haven't even started yet. Sometime soon the deals will be uncontrollable anymore, we hope you are getting yourself prepared not to be confused.

How many Middle Class Nigerians have land in Nigeria? The answer to that question is - "Not Many". Why? - Because they think they can't afford it, because they lack foresight, are looking in the wrong direction or simply procrastination has stolen their time. Do you have landed property? What is your excuse?

It was in the light of this, that some of the members of the NNC represented us, in securing for the members of the club, an exclusive Land Offer in one of the fastest developing areas in Nigeria.

Ofada, 15min from the Lagos toll gate is the proposed site for the Lagos Megacity project. With banks and reputable organizations as it's neigbhours, it's not only an opportunity for you to start planning towards a future home, it is an investment opportunity that only those who are have dates with poverty won't see. Some plots in Ofada that were 280k in February, currently go for N600k. So if you want a home and an investment, you can actually buy multiple units.

The Land Deal 1.
Prime Estate (Limited Offer - First Come First Serve)

Market Price

One time payment: N360k
12months payment plan: 30k/Month
15Months payment plan: 24k/month

Club Price

One time Payment: N300k
12 Months payment plan: N26k/month
15 Months payment plan: N21.5/month
18 Months payment Plan: N18k/month * Members only!

Discounts
One time payment: 16.7%

Savings: N36k - N60k depending on payment plan.
Please note that the payment for Survey and Legal would be paid when complete payment has been made. Survey fee is N50,000 and Legal, N20,000

Modus Operandi
All interested members should please go to their members area and click on request, chose the Land Deal 1, and select the number of plots they want and their preferred payment option.

You will recieve a mail from the deals administrator giving you details of where to pay to and the deadline for payment for this limited opportunity, and subsequent monthly payments. Members who are active on the boards will also be able to pay with their NNC cash on a regular basis.

Kind Regards

Deals Administrator
NNC

To benefit from this deal, join the club.  Remember, the site to visit is www [dot] newnigeriaclub [dot] net.  When prompted, type in "purist" as the sponsor to gain access to the home page. Send a mail to newnigeriaclub@gmail.com for registration details.


Regards.

@mrpataki,

Now it's obvious that you're just being deliberately mischievious, and I want to believe that intelligent members can actually read between the lines. It's amazing how you have conveniently overlooked the credible responses I gave to your concerns, while replying me with statements that have absolutely nothing to do with what I brought up.

Tell me, do you honestly believe that I am here to scam people? My posts on this politics section alone shows that I really do have the interest of the country at heart, and that has been made even more obvious by the way I usually oppose those who do nothing but criticize anything that has to with Nigeria. It is because of this tendency of Nigerians to condemn any good initiative that this country hasn't really moved forward. But I'm glad that we still have those who are really optimistic, and are ready to do anything to help reform this great nation of ours. Our target is to get just 5 million Nigerians who believe in our vision and will do almost anything to make it a reality (whether you believe it is possible or not is your own cup of tea). It's been said that it takes just 7% or less of any country's population to effect a change in that nation. 5 million is just about 3.6% of Nigeria's population, so it's not an impossible project. Having the right attitude and mentality is the first step towards a national reform, and that's one of the things we at the NNC hope to work on (don't ask me how, you'll see for yourself).

Once again, neither I nor the NNC is out there to exploit anyone. I have displayed my opposition to scamming/fraud quite a number of times on this forum, so how can I now turn around and do what I'm completely against?

I had already finished quoting and responding to your posts line by line (so don't think I have nothing to say to all what you typed there), but I had to erase it all because I wouldn't want you to succeed in your mischief, thereby completely defeating the purpose of this thread.

So on a second thought, I have decided to allow you to believe what you want. I expect you to still come around, desperately trying to paint me black or scare people away from this project. BUT mark my words. . .

Time will Tell!

Peace.

@ziddy

ziddy:
How can you respond when you know you've been found out. Now you're name-dropping Deolu Akinyemi for credibility, wasn't he one of the chief proponents of MLM on his site.

More power to your hustle though. Anyone stupid enough to get suckered by you guys deserves whatever he gets. You're all thieves.

http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/08/31/online-businessesmlms-my-stand/

Now I hope you'll shut the hell up and stop talking about what you don't know!!

@ ziddy,

Yours is indeed a funny post. I don't even know how to respond to that one.

Cheers bro.

@mrpataki

mrpataki:
Tell me which nation on the earth that has undergone a major transformation, had it done under a club

Perhaps, if our own nation did not have thieves and inept individuals as leaders, this idea may not have come up in the first place.  No nation may have undergone a major transformation through a club, but perhaps, ours could be the first.  There's always a first time/type, you know.

mrpataki:
This is all a ploy by a well calculated human being to decieve people into vanities of life which in the first place does not exist within the Nigerian context!

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean here.  But if you're referring to Deolu as a scammer, then you got it all wrong.  This is one man who is already an icon in this country.   He has touched countless lives positively, and is still doing so.  He is a mentor to many youths of this country, myself included. INTEGRITY is his watchword.  Adeolu Akinyemi won the “The Professional of the Year” category of the Future Nigeria Awards for 2006.  He has also appeared on TV (Rubbing Minds on Channels TV) a couple of times to discuss pressing issues of the nation.  This is a man who would rather lose all his money, than blow his good name away.  Perhaps, you may as well see the absurdity in this:  For one whose articles and good deeds have helped scammers to leave scamming, for someone who is already well-known across the country and beyond, for one who has turn zeroes to heroes, who has turned "oniranus" to "oniyanus", is he the one that will now engage in scamming??  I don't expect all these truths to change your mind anyway. . . they're just for the records.

mrpataki:
How many agberos or middle class citizens are ready to go and eat at Sweet Sensation, or ready to watch movies at Silvereagle? What is your discount rate? We all know that this outlets are meant for the well above middle class of the nation.

The discount rate for Silverbird is 50% I think (I'm not sure at the moment, maybe I'll get back at you on this).  But really, the project itself is aimed at improving the situation of the country.  Perhaps, when things start to improve, these "agberos" would then be able to afford those things you mentioned.  The benefits, as I said earlier, are only for the members of the club, regardless of the societal class you belong to.  It's a long term project actually (NNC hopes to still be around 20 years from now).

mrpataki:
There are numerous falacies which indicate this club to be nothing but a mischievous sham, only the intelligent ones can actually read the anecdote!

"Only the intelligent ones can actually read the anecdote"?  What the hell is this supposed to mean?
In any case, though I'm yet to confirm this, news reaching me is that Prof. Pat Utomi is also signing on.  Perhaps, he is a scammer too??

mrpataki:
As someone rightly noted, this is nothing but MLM! This topic should rightly be dumped in the scam prone business of this forum.

You're wrong.  MLM is Multi-Level Marketing.  This is not what NNC is about.

mrpataki:
If indeed you are well registered, how come no Nigerian bank is part of this project of yours We all know taxes are evaded in the country, most especially within the private sector, so it is easy to collect peoples money and decieve them into something worthwhile.

Actually, arrangements are currently being made with GTB (arguably the biggest/best bank in Nigeria at the moment) on something the management wants done for all club members - Naija Branded ID cards with interswitch magnetic strips, personal identity and hologram.  Hopefully, this will become available when we're in full launch.

mrpataki:
FYI, I am not even in Nigeria, so do not think I have other motives here, other than letting the world know Nigerians are far more intelligent than a well calculated scam such as this!

God have mercy.

We know you're not in Nigeria - your profile says so.  But it's unfortunate that your motive is not doing any good at all(believe me).

mrpataki:
For someone who started this topic, he spends his quality time on the scam prone business section. I wonder which reasonable fellow will indulge in such.

So if I have most of my posts under the Crime section, that'll as well make me a criminal?  In reality, I actually spend more of my time under Religion and Politics more than any other section.  I only happen to post more under scam-prone business.  Don't let the stats deceive you.

mrpataki:
Yet again, gullible Nigerians will drop their money into such dubious attrocities. When pennywise started in Ibadan earlier in the year at Agbowo shopping complex, I told the mugus it is all a lie, they wont listen to me. Now they know better.

It's very simple.  DON'T JOIN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE.  No one is being forced to join the club.

mrpataki:
Seizing upon the failure of the nation to enrich their pockets illegally.

Nonsense!

Au contraire mon ami, we're doing just the opposite.


Regards.

Interesting responses so far.

@oldie,

oldie:
Fixing Nigeria does not need a club
It should be open, free and voluntary

Fixing Nigeria does not need a club, but this same 'unnecessary club' has to be open, free and voluntary??

oldie:
Well said
When fixing Nigeria becomes a class thing, then the concept is wrong, or there is another motive.
Nigeria can never be fixed by proxy!

It is actually a case of those being 'able' to join, helping the unpriviledged in the society. It is not a class thing actually, and those benefits are exclusively for those who decide to join. The single act can and will indeed lead to doors of opportunities being opened for many.

@Dr Ferlie,

I'm not sure if I'm right by replying you, but for the sake of clarity, let me just state that this is not an MLM (I'm tired of repeating this).

In any case, your own concerns have been addressed here already: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-95803.0.html.  Feel free to check it out.

Peace.

Hi mrpataki,

As I said before, I already anticipated this.  I am only replying you because I don't want a wrong message to be passed to others that may be observing this thread from afar.

We are not dubious people, neither are we here to enrich our pockets (yes, there are pecuniary rewards, but that is another aspect of the project).  I will NEVER in my lifetime be a part of anything dubious in nature, and that's the truth.  I don't know if you read the third post on this thread, but if you did, you'd see that some of the things we plan to embark on need money to be actualised.  Helping the orphans, destitutes, street hawkers, public schools etc needs money, and this money will not fly out of thin air.  I am also a member who paid N30k from my own pocket, I'm not one of the organizers.  Besides, there are enough compensations already for being a member, and I hope you know that these things are not for free.

mrpataki, I understand the fact that we have had clashes quite a number of times on this forum, but it'll be greatly appreciated if you can just overlook the name of the poster this time around (pending the time we'll meet elsewhere) and be objective in your reasoning and analysis.  You don't have to carry fights over from previous threads into new ones, especially when there's absolutely no correlation between them.

Finally, I'll end this with the very words of Deolu Akinyemi himself:  "Don’t join if you don’t believe".

Regards.

Afam:
N30,000.00 for registration? Not sure you are interested in getting a sizable number of Nigerians that genuinely want Nigeria to be better.

Actually, we've had hundreds of people signing up already just within a few days, and the number keeps increasing day by day.

Afam:
Sounds elitist to me, hope I am very wrong.

Ummm. . . yeah you're wrong.  I had the opportunity to speak one on one with the leader of this project a few days back.  He told me that after the prelaunch phase, the fee will be reviewed.  He said there will be student registration which will cost about N10,000 to enable students of various universities across the country to be a part of this.  Then later next year, the fee may be reduced to about N2,500 for the "common people" to also be a part of it.

Also, last time I learnt, two positions out of the five dedicated to orphanages, had cycled out already.

As posted previously, every member of the NNC gets to benefit tremendously from the fantastic discounts on the deals being offered. Here is a comprehensive report on the available deals for now:

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Available deals as at December 1, 2007.

We are leaving out the actual discounted prices here to avoid creating unnecessary pressures for the listed companies. We are also working hard to ensure that by the end of this year alone we have nothing less than 20 deals. We expect that members of the club also have the opportunity to present their businesses discount opportunities to other members of the club.



Silverbird Cinemas

This is one of the prime cinemas in Lagos. The current deal exists on the cinema tickets. We currently enjoy discounts on all tickets we purchase as New Nigeria Club members.

This deal will become available to our members from 1st December, 2007. To be a beneficiary, join the Club. For more details, ask club members.


Nu Metro Cinema

This is another prime cinema – come - stores with presence in Lagos and Abuja. The current deal exists on the cinema tickets. We currently enjoy discounts on all tickets we purchase as New Nigeria Club members, which includes free popcorn and drink.

This deal will become available to our members from 1st December, 2007. To be a beneficiary, join the Club. For more details, ask club members.


T.M. Lewin (Nigeria)

This is an outlet that sells quality men’s shirts, ties, cufflinks and suits and exceptional range of women’s shirts from TM Lewin Shirtmakers London. The deals available cut across a broad range and requests to benefit from this deal will be treated specially. To be a beneficiary, join the Club.


Sweet Sensation

This is a fast food restaurant with phenomenal growth leading to outlets scattered across Lagos State.  We currently enjoy a fixed discount on meals.

To be a beneficiary, join the Club. For more details contact club members.


Starcomms Nigeria

This is Nigeria’s largest private telecom operator and the deals that are available span across different goods and services they provide.

Starcomms mobile phones

Access charge

Starcomms EVDO broadband

For more details, ask club members.


Virgin Nigeria

This is the nation’s flag carrier and operates scheduled international, regional and domestic passenger services. Discounts are available on all routes.

To benefit from this deal, join the Club.


Realty Point Limited
They are estate developers and managers, they are giving us discounts on land at Prime Estate at exclusive and jaw-dropping discounts. For more details, ask club members. To benefit from this deal, join the Club.


Dell Computers

A Dell Wholesaler has approached the club to offer brand new Dell Laptops at exclusive wholesale prices to club members. For more details about this deal, ask club members. To benefit, join the club.


Ava Bookmart

They are sellers of management, leadership and motivational books. They are offerring club members free delivery of books and interesting discounts for the purchase of books. For more details about this deal, ask club members. To benefit, join the club.


What interests members?

If there is anything out there that we discover that many of our members want, we go ahead and get it at wholesale/discounted prices on behalf of our club members. As a member of this club, you should never have to buy everyday things at the normal price. To be a beneficiary of all these, Join the club.