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Lenny9000:
@DonOvero

I am happy with my personal results, the self style expert is happy with his knowledge/explanation, so both of us are cool and can live happily. BUT TROUBLE WILL COME WHEN THE SELF STYLED EXPERT WANTS/TRIES TO FORCE HIS OPINION DOWN MY THROAT BECAUSE THOSE COINCIDENCES NEVER EVER HAPPENS

God bless you my broda !!!

And that's exactly what is happenin now !

I told that 'John Thomas' to believe to himself that there's nothin like juju, and let those that believes that juju does exist be, and nottin else. And i also told him that i can only laugh at those tryin to convince him with one logic or the other. But my broda, no need of tellin you what i got in return, you can go back from the beginin of the arguement and see it yourself. why? b'cos i refused to share his world view, he called me all sorts of names that did no harm to my PC, not to talk of affectin me phisically or financialy. Just like som1 said initialy, that guy needs deliverance, seriously !!!

Even Tensor gave up on him b'cos, he's an atheist and knows nottin about God so no need of wastin time and energy with him b'cos argueing with him is like lookin for a way to make heaven and askin satan for advice !!!

Bros Lenny, i thank you one's again for bringin up these statement, i believe it'll help that 'Thomas' to change his mentality !

Debroslink:
WE HAVE PASTORS (REAL AND FAKE) WHO PERFORM MIRACLES. PLS WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THEIR MIRACLE POWERS 4RM??


DONOVERO, PLS JUST COME 2 IJEBU-ODE DURING HER FESTIVALS AND SEE LIVE JUJU ON DISPLAY. HAVE U SEEN A MAN FLYING IN D SKY ON BROAD DAY LIGHT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. OR WHAT CAN U SAY OF ORO FESTIVALS IN SOME TOWNS IN OGUN STATE?

PAY A VISIT 2 IJEBU-IGBO AND SEE THINGS 4 URSELF.

REMEMBER, SEEING IS BELIEVING,


JUJU IS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SATAN IS REAL!!!!!!!

GOD IS REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dey feel u broda !

You know, just like dey say: what an elderly man sees wen he bends down, a child cannot see it even if he climbs on a tree!

Enough kudos to @Lenny b'cos, he has decided to spend his time and effort to take the 'Thomas' of these thread when he gets to Nigeria to see what we havin been seein for yrs.

I just pray and wish he visits NGR durin the 'Ijebu festival' let me know if he'll go back home dsame as he came !

Timmi:
@ Donevero:

As an atheist, you seem to act counter to others belief, without believing in anything. That in itself is a fallacy. Your premise as an atheist is that God does not exist and as such those that believe in God are simple minded and cannot reason nor rationalize. That again is a fallacy and as a student of psychology, you should know that your claim as an atheist and not believing in anything is not logical.

However, I want to address some issues that you should logically consider in your unbelieving mind.

1. If God does not exist, then all the things that we experienced and see must have come into being by happenstance. That is not logical, the orderliness and the complexity of things around us, even some that up till now still defies scientific explanation, showed that there is a higher being that created this complexity and orderliness.

2. Science did not discover anything, but rather tries to find explanation for what has been created. Everything has been created, we as humans are trying to find out the mechanism of these creations and how we can best apply these intricacies to resolve other human problems.

3. God created a perfect man in Adam and prepared a place for him to nurture, but God gave man a choice by presenting Adam the two trees, explained the consequences of choosing either one of them and allowed Adam to make his choice. That in itself is a God like quality, for our parents, growing up rarely gave us a choice. God instituted a choice theory so as not to create a zombie.

4. What we choose then is up to us, just as you have choosing not to believe in God and God allowed you to choose whether to believe in Him or not knowing the consequences of your choice.

5. You seems to know some parts of the Bible, but you have chosen to use the areas that you feel like using while using them also out of context. For if you have taken time to read through the old Testament, you would have seen where God told His people exactly what will happen in the future - some as far off as 400-years, forewarned them and told them what they should do to prevent such occurrence and yet they choose to do the opposite and hence they have to face the consequence of their choices. Same thing applies now, we are allowed to choose knowing the consequences of our action or inaction, however, once we choose, we have no control over the consequence.

In closing, let me remind you of what the Lord - Jesus Christ said in Luke 9:56 - "For the son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."

I wish you well in your choices, but I advise that you choose right.

Your explanation is as plain as the word: ~~~> CLEAR !!!

Lenny9000:
@DonOvero
I didn’t bother reading most of your stuff about Christianity not because I am being rude, but because that part is settled and makes no sense to argue. See it this way "I am eating rice and chicken" and someone that believes he is extra smart tells me no you are not eating, but actually sleeping, just your mind playing ticks on you. So do I argue with such? Nope! I will just continue wacking and enjoying my rice and chicken. Why waste time arguing with the self styled expert, so my food can get cold? Some of us Christians have personal and physical proofs of why we say we are Christians. And yes I have heard every talk/argument on this topic, Again its like this, I pray and ask God for a shoe and a long lost friend appears and gives me a brad new shoe and I say Thank you God, but the self style expert says its coincidence Bla! bla!, Next I pray for 1000bucks and my brother who knows nothing of it gives me 1000bucks and again I say thank you God and the self style expert says its coincidence, And it continues to a sick person the doctor has left for dead and after praying he walks, I say Thanks to God expert says body heals itself, To me there is no argument here. I am happy with my personal results, the self style expert is happy with his knowledge/explanation, so both of us are cool and can live happily. But trouble will come when the self styled expert wants/tries to force his opinion down my throat because those coincidences never ever happens until I pray and ask God for help, As for me and God, it is personal. I got my most “PRECIOUS” by God’s grace so I might as well be the only one alive that believes in God. No shaking!

Now back to the juju and stuff… you still didn’t make any valid point on the issues raised on my post. I said whenever you wanna go to Naija, holla! And then we can see the rain makers or do I have to pay your trip? It is after the rainmakers doesn’t convince you, then you can continue in your disbelieve until then I suggest you hold your peace cos no point in going back and forth, Evil people do ritual killing and make money, By the way what was that Governor Oji doing in that shine? Taking a bath? I assume you have seen the pics on this site. Back to Discovery Channel, they show some dark stuff that we term juju so what are we arguing about. Speak to people that have actually visited Indian and see the power of some forces instead of arguing trying to convince yourself. If you are 100% sure of what you are saying visit India or any worshipper/priest of “Kali” and say you don’t believe in juju/dark force and see if you will come out alive. Please there are certain things that are a million years way beyond you, the Western people know these, some are involved in it but come out in the open and denounce it as fantasy and you clap! In truth you are the one being deceived because the people you are championing their theories actually believe and practice them in secret. Yes it is Secretive, because it is Dark.
Peace

I gat one word for these: ~~~~~> CLASSIC !!!

Agbalumo & coke !!!

tensor777:
Its not even science but just pure speculation and mumbo jumbo by a few misguided confused souls.

Thank you my broda !

DonOvero:
LOL,

Good comeback. and yet gain you fail to answer. Everytime you write you come across even more uneducated.

I have no problem in people who believe in something but everthing has to have a why and must have a reason. You have neither.

It is clear in several instances in the Judaism scriptures that God commanded, “despoiling, killings of innocent people and children, having slaves and even sexual slaves.”

Excusing this incredibly obvious immoral/unethical/gut-wrenching sick activity away as God having to work on teaching them basics first, doesn’t hold any water. They are just too extreme/perverse and barbaric for a loving God. I really don’t think God would command killing innocent men because they couldn’t handle higher truths. Come on? It doesn’t make any sense.

It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out that these leaders/prophets (whatever you choose to call them) in the bible are bogus in terms of legitimacy of what they claimed and taught.

If it isn’t clear that this is a flashood by now, and are still rationalising away such disgusting inhumanity, then you can continue to live in fantasy, but it does not amek it real just because you think it is real.

Just because someone believes something to be true, doesn’t make it true in the real world.

My broda,

No need of typin genesis to revelation just to make your point b'cos it's pointless !!!

Keep your insults comin, i can see that's the mentality of the westerners when one refused their world view.

My believe? JUJU exists !!!

^
Sorry dude, i just checked my bank account balance and it's stil dsame actual amount i left inside, so, pls don't even mind insultin me b'cos it has no effect or harm on my PC, and the network is stil as stable as ever !!!

I can't give answer your last question b'cos, there'r stil so many things that are beyond my imagination, not to talk of how GOD himself was created. But let me give you a link on how you'll get to know the answer. . .

Take a short cut 2 d other side of life, and wen you get to where GOD is, you ask him that NON-SENSE ques ok?

Spermless prick !!!

wonderful !!!

After trial, if those 80 bas-tards are guilty, pls, pls and pls don't kill them, i beg you in the name of GOD ALMIGHTY !!!

Just take dem str8 to the Zoo, and allow the animals (Lions, Tigers, Crocodile etc) to also celebrate indepence on dem

plsssssssssssssssssssss !!!

Yam and bread with thick kunu !!!

Onwu!!!

Make dem send millitary men go meet doz 'MEND' and gun all of doz bas-tards down jare !!!

Quote from DonOvero: "It seems like a challenge".

^^Yeah! it's a challenge b'cos you called for it. This was what you said initially ~~> Quote from Overo: "now I offer a "CHALLENGE", anyone, ANYONE who thinks "juju exist, use it against me" and lets see if it works."

Why lookin for an Xcuss by callin it a challenge? YES, IT'S A CHALLENGE ! You called for it and you will face that challenge to prove us all wrong that JUJU doesn't exist or else you have made yourself a . . .(You know)?

And why must you lay down a certain amount for som1 to offer you a 'SCIENTIFIC PROOF' of juju? Are we talkin about 'Scientific Proof' or are we talkin about if 'JUJU' does exist or not? You said anybody that believe's that juju does exist (not to talk of if it's workin) should use it against you, for you to confirm if it does work or not right? And i gave you an instruction on how to go and try it, now you'r here layin down certain amount for 'SCIENTIFIC PROOF'.

Guy, quit being a confused soul, and don't allow those so called scientists that believed that they know more than the GOD that created them to whitewash your brain with their stupidity. Things beyond their imagination has been happenin on these earth before their existence. Abi na dem create demselfs? How come they know everything?

RUBBISH !!!

[quote author=Missy ★ B link=topic=522023.msg6849769#msg6849769 date=1285848221]Don't cry over nothing.[/quote]You call that nottin ?.?.?. (((((Heaven i need a hug)))))

B'cos wen it burst into flames, it won't affect you, dat was y u called it NOTHING right?

some najia pipu sef, if una don cross red sea, e go be una like say una dey heaven.

lastpage:
But for the "brand of football" Arsenal plays, l will still remain a Gunner-till- "l rest in peace"

I dey feel you DIE !!!

No comment !!!

Quote from DonOvero :right now I offer a challenge, anyone, ANYONE who thinks juju exist, use it against me and lets see if it works."

My broda, now you'r talkin. I believe that way, you can be able to tell if juju does exist or not !!!

Whenever you visit Nigeria, ask som1 to take you to a harbalist in Ijebu (there'r harbalists in lagos or east tho). When you get there and the harbalist ask's what you guys came for, then you xplain yourself to him and tell him to prove it right infront of you. I believe that is the only way one can explain it better to you than typin the whole pages of Bible from GEN to REV just to convince you.

I rest my case !!!

[quote author=matiltom_d link=topic=522861.msg6850790#msg6850790 date=1285858374]Now that's a classic picture!!!! What in the devil's name was he looking for in the bush [/quote]

Don't blame him my sista, maybe back then, that bush was the only beautiful flower to ever pose on !!!

You can tell by his 'Old Skool' look that he's really and truely a village man !!!

@Jennykadry, kudos to your toaster !!!

No comment !!!

Echidime:
So after 24 hours of the military taken over the Enyimba city Aba, they are still unable to find the kids and deal with the kidnappers? This shows really how Igbos are strong militarily,is a shame on the military,24 whole hours and small boys are beating them silly.

You'r the first human being ever that your BRAIN work's with ZAIN COMMUNICATION NETWORK !!!

I believe the service in your brain was not stable and was flauctuatin when your typed these nonsense right?

Tell u wat, if not 4 d sake of doz innocent children, doz military men will gun down all doz bas-tards in "2days" !!!

NOW ROGGER THAT !!!

[quote author=de-de link=topic=522840.msg6851520#msg6851520 date=1285865605]Abeg make another person help me WARN the so called BLUETHOOT. TRIBALISM IS A VERY BIG CRIME IN NIGERIA BE WARN!!! [/quote]My broda,

Leave that Bull with no crushin skills ! Instead of him to go and see the Dentist, he's here advertisin stupidity !!!

And also a 97yrs old 'Bush Kitty babe' ! Instead of her to go and barb of her bushy kitty !!!

I taya for d man wey go socket him prick for bushy kitty, DISGUSTIN!!!

I don't know my height, but i believe am from 6" above !!!

And i don't give a DAMN to the height of whoever gurl i'll get married to. LOVE WILL DO THE TALKING ON THAT !!!

[quote author=Missy ★ B link=topic=522840.msg6850424#msg6850424 date=1285854418]Animals! [/quote]

You gat me laffin enuff $$$$$ into my bank account !!!

D name u labelled doz men and wit d look on d Emoticon dat u used, i can read d signs of your bad feelins 4 dem !

[quote author=Skmoda-360 link=topic=522844.msg6850597#msg6850597 date=1285856354]I hate nigeria as a federal state due to negligency in corruption, aidin' and abetin' of our past leaders with the present ones who promote and encourage corruption in all ramifications and departments in nigeria.[/quote]Im ballin with you !!!

I really think it's time for a Female to b'com president of Nigeria !!!

Why? A woman in power can never allow all these evil act to get to these stage before she reacts.
Men are strong hearted, them no send sometimes. How can you allow a Kidnappin case to get up to theses xtent before you react? But a woman will act quickly b'cos, she knows what it take's to have a child, and she can't watch som1 take her child away from her for no mu-tha-fukkin reason !!!

My taught pls !!!

blacksta:
Why do you paste all these dumb flags

You better don't waste your time eith that Avatar.

He's an Alien seekin for assylum in planet earth !!!

Beaf:
I would advice all NLers in Aba to vacate the place the army is not trained to investigate criminal matters. The soldiers will shoot anybody that gives the wrong outward sign, even if that person is a saint dropped from Heaven. They are trained killers, whose primary job it is to defend the country against aggression from external armies.

One thing I am very happy about, is that one of the contributors to this topic is a US soldier (bidemi12). His inputs display the stark differences between Nigeria and more developed countries where there is law, order and procedure. You do not see the army on the streets in countries like the UK or the US, because the police can handle all situations. US and UK aside, I have never heard of the army being sent in to sort out kidnappers in even the poorest countries, but then Nigeria is on the list of failed states, so we take totally strange actions; and that is to be expected since the right tool for the job has become a failed tool.

It is my wish that the army is just there to man road blocks and back up the actions of the police, because if they are meant to resolve the problem of kidnapping, they will at most, only secure a temporary victory that will eventually taste bitter in the mouth. We need to learn to do things properly, be organised and follow procedure in this country.

The situation in Aba is the culmination of years of approaching governance stup!dly. The police were deliberately criminalised by the IBB regime who for the first time, withheld police monies and salaries, leaving them to fend for themselves. Mopol units that were previously incorruptible, highly efficient, dedicated and only ever seen in broad daylight when there were near war situations began to mount road blocks and look dirty like the rest of the force; you cannot compare the look of the original mopol with the current fckers running around asking for "roger." These days you can spot mopols everywhere, even at beer palours.

I pity Nigeria. The current police force needs to be completely demobilised if they cannot resolve cases of kidnapping by civilians and totally rebuilt from the ground up. We must send a crop of graduates to foreign countries for training and have them return to set up a proper police service.

And your point to the matter is?

Nigerian league i hail O !!!

DonOvero:
Well, revel in your ignorance, I am sure it will bring you much good.

Mr broda

Don't think im ready to feedback with insult b'cos, all your abuses did no harm to my PC, not to talk of affectin me ok? . . .Im cool with my believe that juju do exist, and if you don't like it, then take a short cut to the other side of life !!!

[quote author=invisible! link=topic=520238.msg6845762#msg6845762 date=1285788299]This is what you get, insults from ignorant, half educated illiterates who cannot comprehend superior facts. Who says illiteracy is not deadlier than AIDS?[/quote]My broda, Even DonOvero also called me an ignorant all for the sake that i made my own opinion that juju do exist, but i don't let all that get into my head b'cos insult can NEVER take anything away from me. I'll just allow whoever insults me to keep advertisin his so called western mentality that would not even affect my PC, not to talk of affectin me.

You can see the comment of a so called western mentality creature below:  

DonOvero:
As long as people like you continue to remain ignorant, Nigeria WILL never prosper. That is a fact. Why would people invest in a country that is so backward in its thinking? So rigid and inflexible in their rationale? why blame misfortune on yourself when there is a juju man that can conveniently take the blame.
Ridiculous.

Why? b'cos i said these:

Ranoscky:
And i think i'll remain ignorant so long as the question remains: If juju exist or not?. . .And i say yes to it !!!

Tell you what, no need for insult ok? Just keep your western mentality to yourself and let me keep my uncivilised ignrance to myself ok? Just like i said before, i can only laugh at those that are stil tryin to convince you with more logic on juju !!!

But im sorry, all these doesn't even affect me b'cos, when i checked my account balance, it's stil dsame amount inside, so !!!