₦airaland Forum

Benevento:
This one posted a video which I don't care to see.

You must be a fool to compare Enugu with Ibadan.

Ibadan is not only better than Enugu but every Igbo cities.

Education : Ibadan has the best University in Nigeria.

Economy : no Igbo city comes close ( everything is not about owning 2x2 show shop in the dirtiest city in the world.

Infrastructures : Standard malls, stadium, resort centres, the busiest road in Nigeria is Lagos-Ibadan express way, Cinemas.

Ibadan is more popular.

Cocoa house was the tallest building few years ago.

Can you see that you are a joker? If your Enugu was in anyway better, you people will not be trooping here everyday, the dream of every Igbo man is to come hustle in SW, if not for the lockdown God knows the number of GIG motors that would have arrived SW today.

Baba goan sit down joor.

Look at this one having a fit over video imagery of Ibadan. I didn't make the video. I man from Ibadan did. You know, just as well as I, that Ibadan is a slum city, in need of serious redevelopment. No amount of fanciful talking will change that.

Benevento:
Are you okay, that picture is new York times square, I used it because you Igbos resort to mocking Ibadan with brown roofs as if everywhere in your potopoto republic is made of Gold.

Ancient buildings are everywhere.

Which ibo city is more developed than ibadan.?

If you call what you see in Ibadan, development, then you need serious help. Ibadan is a slum city.

Benevento:
See this one, Is Enugu more developed than Ibadan? chai.

The gods are feasting on this one's brain.

Ooh I forgot, everywhere in igboland look like the picture below, no mud, no erosion site, just skyscrapers everywhere, Fool.

If you call that development, then there's nothing that can help you.

Benevento:
Masetroferddi Wizkid Davido Olamide Dbanj Fireboy are all from Enugu.


The highest grossed Nollywood movies were produced in Asaba.

We owned Lagos, Lagos is our Commonwealth, we make up 95% of Lagos population.

If Nigeria breaks today, Lagos is our property, we gonna retain it.

Is this the place you say beats anything Igbo people have to offer?

Ibadan (Capital of Yorubaland)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SyeBLN-Tg&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUYY2Ur8z0

Compare that to the capital of Igboland (Enugu)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KuvtEGHVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHnJZ9JGw5w

You be the judge.

darfay:
Niger delta that would generate at least $45B from proceeds of oil and gas alone will need foreign assistance but not biafra. Something somewhere is paining you. And the question was asked based on geopolitical zone not ethnicities. There are ethnic Germans constituting the entirety or majority of Germany, Austria, Switzerland etc. So ethnicity is not the only determinant of an independent country

The Niger Delta doesn't generate $45 Billion in export earnings from oil, it generates around $20 - $25 Billion per year, the rest of Nigeria's earnings comes from other exports and its internally generated revenue (which is excluded from the federal government's budget). However, with the recent crash in oil prices, the Niger Delta is generating only a 3rd of that ($8 Billion per annum). And with the Western Worlds policy on electric vehicles, within the next 5 - 10 years, we'll all live to witness the end of oil as one of the most important commodities in the world.

That aside, I wrote FOREIGN assistance, not FINANCIAL assistance. There is a difference. The reason why I say the region would require FOREIGN ASSISTANCE, is because it has almost no capacity, with limited human development.

Almost all infrastructure projects would require foreign assistance. There are no (to my recollection), construction companies of note, from that region. Unlike in the South-East (as someone asked me to elaborate on), which has a distinct advantage of having internal capacity. It's the reason why it's able to earmark projects like the Enugu Lifestyle and Golf City: http://www.enugulifestyleandgolfcity.com/ and the Awka Millennium City: https://www.awkamillenniumcity.com/ both of which are being carried out by indigenous firms.

The Niger Delta, and Nigeria at large lacks that kind of capacity. The end result is a dependency. Whether it's for construction, of any kind, foodstuff, services, chemicals, drugs supply, manufactured goods. All of these things are created within Igboland: https://www.nairaland.com/3926379/igbos-most-industrious-innovative-richest, but not in the Niger Delta.

nku5:
Nothing? So if Nigeria breaks today some parts, the north can tell China that all the money they invested in building the Kaduna-Abuja railway is gone because it's a new country? It doesn't work that way at all. Especially in the globalised world of today. You will be dragged to international courts in the very least and made to pay the investor back his investment, plus profit and damages in billions of dollars

I don't disagree with that. Compensation would definitely have to be made. I believe that in Yorubaland, that's what they would do, irrespective of what it would mean for the country in the long term.

darfay:
The igr of those state is from oil? And so? Won't they carry their oil should they separate? Abi what are you saying? Nigeria as a whole lacks human capital. Delta is always I repeat always top 3 when it comes to anything education in this country so what's your point on human capital. Niger Delta is not as bad as you think. Currently in my village there is no untarred road, water pump every 3 min walk. I really don't get your point
Niger Delta worse than equitorial guinea but biafra would be better than Japan. Over 80% of Nigerian revenue including company income tax is from Niger Delta, so what's your point? Niger delta is the largest producer of oil Palm rubber(too much in Delta State) which are very economically viable crops.Even when it comes to sport Niger Delta is the leading region. Delta and Rivers always 1 & 2 in the national sports festival having most number of indegenious coaches so far
I'm giving you facts not Guess work.How long does it take to develop human capital? What is Niger Delta lacking that the rest of Nigeria doesn't lack? Why are you pained? It's not like any of these are real

Cross River State, Beyalsa State, Akwa Ibom State, when have any of these states ever featured at the top three of anything educationally related? Delta and Rivers State will cease to exist in the event of fragmentation (of Nigeria); with many of its (Igbo) people joining Igboland (Biafra). It's either that, or live as minorities in a Niger Delta - which would never happen.

Well, Equatorial Guinea is a lot smaller, and a lot less complicated, in terms of ethnic makeup. But I'm basing my opinion on my observation of the regions current leadership, which is terrible.

Most of Nigeria's foreign exchange revenue comes from oil. But oil only forms 20% of Nigeria's GDP. That means, if Nigeria had a more efficient taxation system, it could very easily triple or quadruple its revenue base.

I'm not pained - I'm being totally objective. I believe Niger-Delta Republic would be a disaster, if it ever came into being, and I already explained, what it lacks. Niger-Delta has virtually no capacity. Name me construction companies, chemical companies, car companies, foodstuff companies, beverage companies, electronic companies, etc... from the region? What do Niger-Deltans produce? Nothing - which is why I said, they'd require a lot of foreign assistance.

How long will it take? Well I don't know. Nigeria has been around for more than 100 years, yet the region still doesn't create anything. Who's to say it ever will. Again, which is why I'm an advocate of more ethnostates.

darfay:
South south has little human resources? People would think we are illeterates or something over here.

I mean no offence. When I say human resources. I'm talking about the things a nation needs to be self sufficient.

The Niger-Delta would need a whole lot of foreign assistance, whether it's in infrastructure projects, drugs supply, manufactured goods, chemicals, machinery, foodstuff, etc... for sustenance sake. Development in the Niger-Delta is very low, despite the amount of money the region receives from the oil revenue allocation formula. Why? Could be a multitude of reasons, but the fact remains, that governance in the Niger-Delta is the worst, in the entire country, even worse than the North. Only difference is the Delta receives significantly more money to compensate for the stupendous level of corruption and neglect from its leaders.

It's for that reason, I think a fracturing of the region would be the best option. An all-Ijaw nation would do significantly better than a Niger-Delta republic.

nku5:
Nationalizing like in the 1970s? Are you kidding

What stops them from doing it? Nothing. So they will do it, irrespective of its long term effects.

Yorubaland as a nation will be no better than Benin, the country. Northern Nigeria will be like Niger. The Middle Belt, if it's able to split from the North, would most likely be better than both the North and South-West. The South-South, would be better off splitting into several nations. South-East will be the best off, due to it's high human development. Igboland already has everything required to build and sustain a nation. All the other nations, will require a lot of foreign assistance, if they're to survive.

nku5:
Read about Awo's deal here http://saharareporters.com/2012/08/13/northern-muslim-elders-reply-asari-dokubo-go-and-read-your-history

Nope legal agreements cannot be tossed aside just because you secede. When it is now between two countries in the international arena it can't be solely on your terms unless you are as powerful as USA or you pay them in hundreds of billions of dollars as compensation

The SW threw away an opportunity when Jonathan was president...

Nothing stops them from nationalising, which is most likely what they will do.

Grgton:
I think SS will be more developed. port Harcourt will assume the future Africa's New York with massive investments and all round economic boom

Why would people invest in Port Harcourt?

It'll be up to the native populations to build their own cities. Africans need to get off this idea of FDI-led development. No nation has ever developed off FDI. The Niger-Delta is far behind, in terms of human development, and lacks leadership, due to the various ethnic groups that live within the region.

I say the Niger Delta is better off splitting into 2 or 3 countries, than forming one larger one, which will, from the onset have ethnic issues. Mainly between the Ijaw and everyone else. As they will be the most populace.

darfay:
Tribalism has blinded everybody here.it is extremely obvious that the south south who currently fund the Nigerian budget with a population of at least 20million people and the largest coastline, with the largest potential for tourism in southern Nigerian including ecotourism having one of the largest deltas in the world, wildlife in crossrivers, countless of islands in delta, bayelsa and Rivers including the southernmost island in West Africa (I think) Bonny island, cultural tourism in Edo region l,one of the largest gas reserved in the world, the largest tax generator outside of Lagos state (Rivers was number 2 last year and was twice that of ogun state), Delta at 5 with Akwa ibom and Edo rounding up top 10.

You must be an idiot to deny the above facts. The south south would be by far the most successful without a doubt. All the oil companies would leave lagos and so would allied services.lagos seaport would only serve south west and the North, making it less busier leading to loss of jobs. Where as the south east would patronise southern ports. Traffic in Lagos airport would reduce. Abuja would become desolate

But it's just a simulation

Human development is the greatest resource, which the South-South has very little of. Yes, they have oil, but that's it. The IGR generated from those states, comes from the oil revenue, as most people within those states work in the Public Sector. The Niger Delta will need to build up its capacity, which will take decades, and it'll also need to adopt good leadership, which has alluded it since Nigeria's independence. The Niger Delta is easily one of the most underdeveloped regions in Nigeria, with limited infrastructure and only one real city (Port Harcourt), all the other so-called cities are no more than towns, with a few public buildings, and large slum settlements.

Niger-Delta Republic would be worse than Equatorial Guinea. Edo State would be better off forming its own country.

spendoon:
The northwest is a million years ahead of sourh east, at least everyone should know their lane you can never see the north compereing themselves with SW same way you won't see the SW compereing themselves with the SS but you igbos want to compete with every region especially those ahead of you, the SE is in the league of NE and NC
Just compete the GDP of the NW and SE and see the difference

Show us the per capita figures. The HDI figures, which include literacy rate, school admission rate, graduation rate, water access, health infrastructure, local content, etc.

Northern Nigeria is home to 87% of Nigeria's poverty and no amount of showing pictures of that same flyover 50 times is going to change that.

Northern Nigeria still has polio, over 6 million children out of school (the most in the entire world) no water access, and no health infrastructure.

Borno State has zero ventiliators. Anambra state has more ventiliators in storage than Northern Nigeria has for it's entire populace.

...

Why doesn't the government give money to Innoson to produce ventilators, instead of this - I don't get it.

SoNature:
I am just wondering how the government manages over 1000 covid-19 patients when Nigeria doesn't have up to 1000 ventilators.

I just hope Nigeria's healthcare doesn't get overwhelmed

This country needs all the ventilators it can lay her hands on, including begging donors and engaging Mallo and Innoson

Most of the confirmed cases exhibit mild symptoms - they don't need ventilators. It's only for the serve cases.

Aflix:
1.7k cases already with less than 12000 tests, wow we are in a lot of shit. I just hope NCDC don't become overwhelmed with too many cases

If a lot of people had the virus, then they'd already be overwhelmed. The streets would be littered with dead bodies, as what happened in Ecuador.

Kwashiman:
What will you gain from Nnamdi Kanu's "death" though? I feel like you guys give him far too much attention than he deserves, which is exactly the reaction he smartly wants from you guys to stay relevant. I don't even think majority of Igbos aside his followers take him serious.

The majority of Igbo people support him, because 90% of Igbo people want out of Nigeria. His support base is easily in the tens of millions.

gidgiddy:
And then your ancestors came to the East to fight to bring back parasites to be with them in "one Nigeria?"

Nigerians are the only people in the world who fight to be with parasites

Nigeria is the only country in the world, where Muslims are fighting to live in a country with Christians. Anywhere else in the world, Muslims would jump at the opportunity to have their own nation. Pakistan and India being a prime example.

Nnamdi Kanu just tweeted an hour ago.

Fake news.

beylinko02:
Some people conscience sha. How will you sit down comfortably in this car and the people you represent are wallowing in hunger and sickness.

Lost priority, visionless leaders and I don't see this ending soon except we make conscious effort in investing in human development.

This is how the leaders once were in the Western World, but the people rose up. As long as Nigerians sit down and do nothing, the leaders will continue to loot and misappropriate funds.

Lloydfather:
like Bakasi peninsula was seed to Cameroun after Biafra war, it will also be a good thing if we can also seed come part of Bornu State to compensate the Chad Republic for their job Weldon.

at least they have tried in helping us to fight the Boko Haram that started in our country.

So, throw away those groups you deem less useful, but hold on for dear life, to those you feel you can't live without.

ornicus:
the only thing igboland has is the highest number of chestwankers.

all your so called intelligence and you are nothing like the jews you are always claiming.

until you engage in self introspection and develop actual emotional intelligence, you will always be a bunch of noisemakers telling everyone how superior you are to everyone else, while wallowing in some of the dirtiest cities the continent has to offer

All Nigerians exalt themselves, in fact, all peoples exalt themselves, that's part and parcel of having a positive perception of self, and said group. Yoruba people aren't any less humble than Igbo people, and that goes for Northern Nigerians. The only difference is in receipts. Whereas Igbo people can back up their boasting, Yoruba people, for example, cannot.

As you can see from exhibit A & B (Capital of Yourbaland):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SyeBLN-Tg&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkUYY2Ur8z0&t

Compared to (Capital of Igboland):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbpiT4bWY0&t

Jewish people are the ones that say we're like them, not the other way round.

Emotional intelligence? Please clarify your position.

The only thing I can infer from your writings, is that, Igbo boasting irritates you. I say, if we're all on the same level, as you put it, it shouldn't bother you.

amc:
So what were Igbos thinking about by voting for Atiku ahead of Moghalu? Who is more intelligent? Who is the better option?

Because Moghalu is Igbo, and it's the turn of the North to produce the next president. Whether you like the arrangement or not. A turn-based system, is the only way of keeping the nation stable. We all see what having Goodluck Jonathan as president caused (Boko Haram).

ornicus:
The best one can describe ibo society as is libertarian. I got fine Bleep everyone else. That is why you have so many billionaires and so much squalor.

Tell us about competence after you drink another gallon of ikpeazu kerosene

Igboland has the highest HDI in Nigeria, and amongst the highest in Africa. With the lowest poverty rate, lowest mortality rate. Highest literacy rate, amongst men and women. Best educated populace (based on JAMB statistics and entry requirements), highest number of SME, and highest disposable income.

All of which has been achieved within the mist of oppression. By other black Africans (Nigerians).

supercase1:
Judging by the chadian troops recent exploits I think the chadian at the few time they took part in a counter bokoharm operation proved to be 100% more efficient than Nigerian troops,they beat the Boko boys and show us raw evidence and footage while our millitary shows us audio photo of a Bokoharam hideout been bombed in sambisa chadian forces even released hundreds of our soldiers captured our soldiers had be cornered and severely brutalised they can bark but they can't bite.i think buratai and Nigeria troops need to hand over logistics and command to the chadian troops as soon as possible
who supports this motion?

Ever since the Nigerian government put a Northerner in charge of the expedition, the military has suffered casualties, loss of territory etc. Under the last Igbo General, the North complained about the military being too aggressive on Boko Haram. So it's obvious Nigeria what is happening.

It's good to see a real military fighting force in the area. Boko Haram are a ragtag army, made up of illiterates and peasants that can barely wield a gun. This fight should have been over years ago.

socialmediaman:
I understand that in 2015, many of us were upset at GEJ’s inadequacies and PDP’s corruption in general, but after observing Buhari’s first term in office where we visibly saw that he had no clue about what he was doing in office as president, someone please help me understand how some of us campaigned and re-elected him?

Was this some religious and ethnic loyalty against country, was it ignorance, was it a calculated attempt to spite PDP to our detriment, was it just hope against fact that he’ll pick up his slack, or what was it?

I’m yet to understand this. I’ll have to call out some nairalanders on this

Northern Nigerians voted for him, because he's a religious fanatic and unapologetically a Northerner. Someone who will act in their interest, irrespective of how it's perceived or received by other parts of the country.

Yoruba's voted for him, well, at least 50%+ of them, because it meant the VP spot.

Nigerians don't vote for politicians because of their competency, education or plan for the country. We know this, because Buhari didn't attend the political debate. So from the onset, everyone knew he had no real plan for the country, but they still voted for him.

Igbo people didn't vote for him, because he's a bigot and he's unintelligent. Igbo society has always been democratic, which puts us at a disadvantage. Because whereas other regions are thinking about religion, and tribe, literally, ALL THE TIME, Igbo people are thinking about competence, best option, etc. It's what happens if you take a feudal society (Yoruba and Northern Nigeria) and add democracy.

NextD18:
99.697% of people in Aba and Onitsha don't even know what's going on.

They don't even know what's Covid-19 is all about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZcj3_2SSVA

The government has been preparing the population for weeks.

Firstnebo:
Thank you. When you hear "sell", did you ask in exchange for what?

The answer would be that we become American citizens. Nigeria made the 51st state with a governor.

Well, if it's slavery, then you already know what the exchange entails. That said, this is more fanciful thinking. As I previously wrote. USA is an Anti-African nation. Any high scale dealings between USA and Africa, always ends with USA benefiting at the expense of African lives.

I don't see how being ruled by racists, is better than being ruled by your own kin, with questionable levels of morality. We already have Black Americans as a benchmark of what to expect, and when we look at their living standards, on average, it's on par with your average Angolan. So why not have Angola rule over Nigeria?