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pastormustwacc: ^^^this strange guy makes a lot of sense today - rymz, this is the first time i am reading your post completely - and yes, you spoke a lot of sense there.
And you are very knowlegeable. And true, Paul was not in the inner circle of Christ back then, so there is NO WAY he could have known more than peter.

Dr slow: Sorry to point out d obvious but do u know what a catholic gown is? It's dat thing u wear at graduation and matric which shud tell u it's origin. Also it said dat d first university wuz established by Aristotle hu wuz a student Plato hu himself wuz tutored by Socrates, Aristotle wus also d tutor of Alexander d great. The origin of d university system wus to teach people how to be better people in society as well as rulers. Not how to balance account and such. Now look at d classical economists and co dey were church fathers,people like Adam Smith. The bible was responsible for interpretation and evolution of many languages to enable d gospel b preached as well as it wuz felt dat people were heathen because dey were illiterate and stupid so dey had to be educated so education went hand in hand with trying to make us better people and hence religion which also wanted us to b better.
But am still in support of u tho ur goin extreme, the schools are not facing reality of whats happening cosndey shud know it's not working buh really for many of dem it's jus a job so dey jus have to do it and enforce stupid rules which dey don't believe, also it is expected dat maturity shud allow u jus behave d way dey want and finish then go on with ur life because really drinking partying smoking fucking and all are jus trivial compared to what's at stake it's lyk goin abroad dey have laws which we consider stupid in 9ja buh u av to abide by it cos of Wotan at stake, dats part of what makes u a graduate it shows you have what it takes to do what ur job entails and get results
Look at it dis way even government skuz av stupid rules like where boys cant enga girls hostel, alsomd stupid curriculum and sadistic lecturers who force u to cram rubbish and do rubbish buh we know at d end not much wuz really learnt d employer knows dis buh still employs because uv shown u can do d job by graduating or why do u fink in many cases brilliant students still fail and have extra yr while lesser peps grad. Apply d logic to d church skuz and unwud see dat d rules are jus trivial and it's only kids dat wud complain abt such d way kids cry wen dey can't get what dey want from mummy

Dr slow: Dude I went to private Skool too yh, wuz in unilag for 4yrz did diploma twice had a car stayed in BQ and all buh av seen both sides so talk lyk u went to sku and not lyk an ignorant Bleep throwing stereotypes around abt private sku peps, look outside we run dis town and look at ma oda post if u can, I don't disagree abt d skuz bein high handed and such buh now insulting peps hu went there, if you skooled in 9ja am sure u wud travelled out to sku if u cud meaning u couldn't so u stayed hence u probably didn't go to private sku too cos u cudn't don't tell us u didn't cos it wuz bleeped because govt skuz ar more fuckd so it's d fees sinc skuz like igbins are secular at d same time private sku people, babes especially, are d largest party people

pak: Well Lima,
As long as you remain civil. I don't have a problem. You have a right to your contrary opinion and the least I can ask for is that you respect mine even if you don't agree with it or you find it totally unreasonable. That I say, is the hallmark of a civilized society.

Well as long as you do not even want to hear me out, there is little I can do.

but if you are a bit observant, you will realize that I totally abhor violence, whether it is to counter a previous action or not.


When some months back some two men were lynched in Kano for allegedly being a member of the Boko Haram, the thread was on Nairaland, and there was commendations all round, I stopped to ask the what if questions - what if they were not ? what if it was a setup ? what if there were mistake somewhere ?

When we heard that 4 young men were killed (and were regarded as robbers) I still started asking the same question in defence, what if they were not and so on.

Naturally, when the issue of the arrest was brought up, and I noticed the hint of condemnation even in the police report, which seemed they were playing to the gallery to suit people like you, and of course the barbaric comments all over Nland. I became a little concerned, have we covered all the bases and asked the question ?

I have (in my final year) in school, at the risk of my life, stood in defense of a boy who was being beaten by the SUG boys for being a thief.


Am sorry to say, but the reactions of most people here show that we as a people have a very high propensity for violence and it is scary.

You used the word fair trail in your last post, if indeed what you wish is a fair trail, we are on the same page but you must agree that the eagerness to condemn anyone without full evidence and investigation negates that very principle you just espoused.

And please do try to be civil, I keep wondering why we always have to resort to insults in putting our points across

inurmind: My friend the human mind is more vunerable and gullible than u could ever imagine. Its so esy to manipulate.
The euphoria, the waves of electricity, they are all comprehendable.
For more knowlegde do some research on hypnotism,
psychology, derren brown.
No offence but its your eyes that need to be opened.

pak: In case Bizbooks decide to come back to the thread, his comments on another thread provide food for thought

https://www.nairaland.com/1066589/3-students-burnt-death-uniport/46#12458620





People who are quick to judge will always make the same mistakes

the same error made by Aluu people, the same error made by the media at initial point when we heard about the killings, is also being made now.

When you are ruled purely based on emotions, then you jump to conclusions which might or might not be true.

Despite the attacks, I still maintain that these reactions and many other previous incidences show that the the Aluu Community might not be too different from most other Nigerian communities.


And while we point fingers, we need to take a long and critical look at our values as a society. The hypocrisy won't suffice

pak: Exactly what I was saying, the media report was that they went with a gun and made of with Coxson's property because of a debt coxson owed them and as I posited UNLESS there is evidence to show that Coxson participated in the lynching, then he can't be considered a criminal for raising the alarm for armed robbery, hence my raising the O.J. simpson analogy.

I am all for rational and fairness even in the midst of our mourning for the boys.

Frankly speaking, what the responses to the whole ALUU4 issue has taught me is that the average nigerian is no different from the ALUU indigenes. Ready to jump into conclusions without adequate evidence, ready for Jungle justice. Ready to make comments like this below




Aluu community is indeed a microcosm of the entire Nigeria

Zico0: no time to read all that. I knw things dnt jus hapn on their own. 7billion people go out evryday 2 make it but not all come back successful. Let 3people work hard in the same amount but the results will differ. Thats when yu acknowledge that force. I dnt go on abt the existence of God. But by the number of yrs i hv lived i knw some force exist. Thats y i go to church evry sunday 2 appease that power so that my will be done out of the 7billion people. Now if yu title that power God's then i blieve.
The power is immaterial(spiritual) but i 2 connect with it. There's christianity, budhism,judaism etc. I wz raised in christianity nd it seems most effective. Im no follower of adeboye,oyedepo or man: my goal is to reach that force. This is my take.

Pastor Kun: For someone who claims to know the bible, I am amazed you don't know that christians are not obliged to tithe and also that if you even decide to tithe, you can give your tithe to the poor. You may wish to read deut 14:22-29 to have better knowledge on the tithing subject.

coogar: this is the best piece of news i have heard since friday....now i feel so much better. when the people of aluu community see students next time, they would act accordingly!



uniport is a glorified secondary school - the boys @ st finbarrs' college have more cojones than the clowns @ uniport! 4 students got tortured for 7 hrs and the student union body did nothing esp in this day of mobile technology where a broadcast message can mobilise thousands of people within few minutes! shame on uniport and their spineless student union president......

century106: Thanks for the compliments
One of the advice I got before I started my study in Uniport was to not live in Choba and yet again the events I narrated happened in the most peaceful community out of the 3 host communities of Uniport - Alakahia. These people are heartless [s]and somewhat envious of outsiders coming to brighten their future in their community[/s]. Nowhere is safe really, first it was Back of Chem (Choba) now it's been Aluu for a very long time and am certain several new comers are often warned about residing in Aluu by loved ones and senior colleagues but for socializing-sakes they end up living in that dreaded bush and I still wonder what's in Aluu that students would want to live there. Is it the famous Pritaso' hostels? or the fact they have many bushy areas suitable for cult activities? Yes bad students abound in Aluu but yet again some innocent ones who stubbornly chose to live there end up being subjected to these ill treatments... There have been several cases of murder of both innocent and 'non-innocent' students in that same Aluu... Ra.pe happens too and it beats me students still flood to go live in that bush .

If Ugonna or whoever was the rich dad's son had chosen to flaunt his father's wealth by living in one of the expensive and porch self-contain in Alakahia, maybe he wouldn't have woken up that early or even see a bike that will commute him to Aluu by 5Am, maybe, just maybe he will still be alive today and I wouldn't have to be here feeling this much hate for those that stood by and watch 'em lynched to their demise... Walahi my anger for now is reserved for all 'em muda fcukas that took photos and videos - that is what our world is gradually turning into, where hunger to feed social media with photos, videos and gists makes us sterile of our humanly functions.

gidiMonsta: Nawaoh, did I say I support their killings? Did i say they deserved to die?

People like you are hypocrites, you support jungle justice when it comes to the killing of BH members and even innocent abokis but cry like goats when the same is dished out to cultists just because they look 'responsible'.

Forgive me if I don't see things the way you do, I don't support extra-judicial killings even if it's psychos like Joseph Kony or Abubakar Shekau. But do I give a damn if they're killed? NO. Bottom line I have no empathy for cultists.

On a more serious note: The guy with the stick needs to be caught. He's a maenace to the society, no sane person can clobber 4 people to death without remorse.

gidiMonsta: Before u start throwing stones at me, how do u know I didn't contribute to the development of the heart-lung machine?

Here's a summary of what I'm trying to say;

Did I wish this for them? - NO
Are they dead? - YES
Am I sad they're gone?- NO
Why? - if u oppress people, you invite karma.
Do I like d way they were killed? - NO, wish they rot in jail instead.
Should those responsible be prosecuted?- YES, possible life in jail for the main actors, which is a start in bringing an end to the mob culture in the country.

azimibraun: Am a muslim and ever since dis news dropped I hv bin campaigning nonstop on every platform dt I hv knwn on d need for dis boys to get justice for dis evil done dem.. Wt I usaully say wen muslims kill is still wt I wll say wen xtians kill. If religion cannot restrain evil, den it cannot claim effective powers for good..even as a muslim, I am aware of d pains xtians blived christ wen tru carrying that cross of calavary up till d spot wia he ws hunged with d crook and d killer. Dis boys wia taken round d town for a long time and yet no xtian in dt community cld remember d story of christ and save dem.. We are jst xtians and muslims nt truly children of God as we ought 2 be. God's children cnt b boko haram and God's children cnt b dos Aluu killers.

ifeness: I have a good news for you The new generations are beginning to ask questions. It is now obvious that there are thousands of forgeries from the western middle ages.People forged will,history texts,land deeds etc. One of the biggest forgery factories during this period was the Church. The Church did not only forge documents-many churches through out European Christendom have objects called relic-items which are said to belong to the saints or famous personages from the christian bible. This include the church burning and destroys ancient text and traditions that would pose a threat to the new political movenment they were inventing. Thereby the created a future business and money making empire.

Oyedepo is a smart business man. If we wasn't,his church would probably have been empty by now- also includes the fact that he is fortunate have one of of the most retarded and dump people on the planet to be his members.

Hopefully his unfortunate members would gain their sights someday and see the manipulator he really is.

babestella: I am not his disciple. Talking about knowing them by their fruits, you need to ask for the Grace of God to understand that you can't fight for God. It you think they are using your money to buy luxury jets, them stop giving, it is simple. Leave God to judge please.

saem: Bishop David Oyedepo apart from beign the GO of the living faith church world wide is also a writer of international repute. He has touched the lives of so many people all over the world. Some of the affluence he has come into today can only be explained supernaturally. Any human beign that wants to analyse this man of God by human standard can only come to a wrong conclussion. People, be careful what u say about an annointed man of God. U could be pushing ureselves into Gods judgement.

mankand: Do you know why i will not be there??

I am not a rogue, I am not a thief, I have never had the intention of killing or attacking my fellow man. I am an established youth full of life, I employ others and not looking for employment. I do not need to live a flashy life to impress girls and I am contented with what I have.

If you can match any of this, then you can come back to me.

Moreover have you performed an IQ test? you better get one done before ranting like a cow whose tail was cut off.

slowpoke