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elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

We, the saints, do not compete with or rub shoulders with those who have no iota of regard for the Commandments of our Father in heaven over the issue of Christmas and its celebration. They shouldn't for one microsecond think that we worship the same God. The God we worship does not recognize Christmas as something he has sanctioned for his saints.

No saint of Yahushua the Messiah should argue much on this matter. We know full well that more 98 percent of those who say they are celebrating the Messiah have no single solitary respect or regard for him and what he has said concerning himself and his Father, our Father in heaven. It is obvious that they are not worshipping the Messiah we worship.

No matter how anyone twists or attempts to manipulate the Scriptures, Christmas is not sanctioned by them and that is final.

Therefore, let the world celebrate their Christmas. We no dey fight.

This message will continue to call the saints out of this idolatrous celebration called Christmas. As long as the Father in heaven wills and gives his saint the zeal and strength, it will still be shared in the coming years.

Luke 10:5 “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you.


Those for whom the message is meant will accept it.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

I don't get your point, what are you even saying? It is very clear that we are not competing with you and we don't worship the same God with you. We understand that Yahshua is a proposed transliteration of the original Hebrew name of Jesus but we don't believe in your own Yahushua and our beliefs about Jesus is totally different so how can we compare two different religions. Christians only practice Christianity, no Christian can accept your belief except the Christian wants to convert to your religion.

Christmas is for Christians and we are not forcing other religions to partake in it, please stop condemning our religion, just face your own religion.

Our own Jesus will not condemn us for celebrating Christmas.
Roman 14:1-7
1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

Ixua:
I swear, ask the guy to send the money to the orphanage if you want to know how generous and stingy he is.
Don't ask him for anything, not even an office pin. Wait until he marries you before you starts billing him.

Thanks for the advice. Merry Christmas, I ❤ you and Jesus ❤❤❤❤❤s you more.

Thank you Jesus

The owner of my soul

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

In all generation

There is No One like You

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

Thank you Jesus

The owner of my soul

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

In all generation

There is No One like You

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

Thank you Jesus

The owner of my soul

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

In all generation

There is No One like You

Alpha Omega

You are worthy to be praised

GOTVee:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, I hereby warn my fellow Christians that celebration of Christmas is a sin against God and the holy spirit. Jesus christ was not born on the 25th of December. It's a day of worship for pagan god. The Bible doesn't not encourage us to celebrate Christmas but to celebrate the sacrifice of our lord Jesus. Only Muslims are allowed to celebrate the birth of their Holy prophet Muhammad (Mawlid). I see so many Christians going to hell fire. If you are celebrating Christmas today, you have sinned against God and you are only serving mermon

Roman 14:1-7
1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

Merry Christmas to you all.

To those that I have offended, I am very sorry.
I ❤ you all and Jesus ❤❤❤❤❤❤s you more.

Merry Christmas to you all.

To those that I have offended, I am very sorry.
I ❤ you all and Jesus ❤❤❤❤❤❤s you more.

Merry Christmas to everybody, I ❤ u all and Jesus ❤❤❤s u all.

Merry Christmas, I ❤ you all.

HBD to you, may you celebrate more years. Merry Christmas to you and New Year in advance. I ❤ you.

Crystyano:
You can't help it.



This thing won't leave your head except by chance.....but Kobojunkiee considers otherwise as a so-called psychologist or psychiatrist.




Just as drug addicts believe in drugs.....they never chose to be addicted.

Thanks for the quoting me. I would like to use this opportunity to say Merry Christmas, I ❤ u and Jesus ❤❤❤❤❤s you more.

Tetehjewels:
I don't need to because my mind isn't closed.

You are right, you don't need to because you own no one an explanation. The fulfilled prophecy about Jesus is an evidence to we Christians that Jesus is God, it doesn't matter if some people reject or debate this evidence, Jesus does not even want us as Christians to debate our faith, He only asked us to preach the gospel, so that some people will believe and be saved.

Personally, I believe in Jesus and I will forever continue to believe in Jesus and share His messages with people. He has always been my God and He has never failed me. Just this month, He did something great in my life. Why will I have a problem with a God that is very reliable, a God that hears my prayers and answers it? This is my own testimony, a lot of Christians also have testimonies to share.

Debating about faith is pointless, there is always no clear winner in a debate because even after debating, debaters always stick to their opinions. What is the point of debating, it is not as if we want to vote Jesus in as God, to us Jesus is God.

Don't be troubled when people doubt your faith because people's opinion about your faith does not matter, Jesus was not elected by people so He can never be dethroned no matter what people say or do? I believe people should just practice what works for them and allow us worship our God in peace.

MaxInDHouse:
What a pity?
Millions on this section will claim they are followers of Jesus of Nazareth.
But here is a thread rubbishing Jesus' birth as recorded in the Bible.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, thanks to JEHOVAH the true God, let them come and defend their faith if truly they believe in the gospel accounts!

No, you are wrong. It is not mandatory for Christians to partake in such baseless arguments. This is clearly a debate, even if I spend the whole day debating this topic, I will not win a single soul because nobody accepts defeat in a debate, both parties will just keep trying to express their opinions.

Jesus did not ask us to debate with people, He told us to win souls and the best way to win souls is through evangelism, there is no need for us to stress ourself by having unnecessary arguments. People are free to give their opinion, can their opinion dethrone Jesus or change my faith? No. So why should I be worried?

Personally, I believe in Jesus and I will forever continue to believe in Jesus and share His messages with people. He has always been my God and He has never failed. Just this month, He did something great in my life. Why will I have a problem with a God that is very reliable, a God that hears my prayers and answers it? I don't know about others but to me, God is real.

EkiranAlexmedia:
Jesus Said You Should Stop Using Perfumes — Female Preacher Warns Christians

A female preacher has warned against the use of perfumes, stating that Jesus said Christians should stop applying it.
The video which seems to be making the rounds online captures the moment a preacher vehemently warned against the use of sweet smelling substances on the body.

Driving her point home, she backed her claim with a portion of the bible, Isaiah 3 verse 24, as she affirmed that on the last day, people who use perfumes will be burning and stinking like gutter.

In her words:
“Those of you putting perfume, Jesus said you should stop putting perfume on your body. On the last day in Isaiah 3 verse 24 instead of sweet smell, you’ll be burning and you’ll be stinking, you’ll be smelling like gutter”.

Jesus did not condemn perfume, if he did, he would have condemned Mary of Bethany and not allowed her to pour perfume on His legs.
Mark 14:3
Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.

Even in the old testament, God did not condemn perfume. Why on earth will scent be a bad thing?
Exodus 30:34-35
34 And the Lord said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight:
35 And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy:

EkiranAlexmedia:
Hello Guys,
I am very depressed. Why do girls treat us Men like this ��

After everything i gave her. After all the love and care. I never cheated on her for once. For once.

The only thing that happened was i accused her of cheating on me with a friend. I did a research and found out it was true she cheated.

I was so angry i told her my mind about it. Next thing i know she is cursing me… What did i do wrong??
See the snapshot of what she sent to me below
Please, how do I respond to this? Drop ur comments below.

Just tell her back to the sender.

Greatzeus:
Jesus Preached repentance
From that time Jesus began to preach,and to say,Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.. Mat 4:17.
So much division in doctrines because someone will interpret a clearly written scripture as it favours him for his selfish interest.

Preaching the gospel requires wisdom. There are certain places you cannot preach some things because several people might not understand and you might even end up even pushing them away. For instance the street, when you go to the street are you going to preach to the saved. No, you are going there to preach to the sick which are the unsaved.

Pastors are not assigned by God to go into the world to judge or condemn people, their first assignment is to advertise Jesus to people. If you want to advertise a snack, won't you tell people that the snack is sweet so that they can buy it, it is after they had bought the snack that they will know other things about it, maybe it makes people slim or fat or it makes people go to the toilet often. Not everybody can eat solid food, some people are not matured enough to eat it, their pastors still have to give them a chance to grow gradually like a plant without condemnation them. There are ways to correct without condemnation.
1 Corinthians 9:19-22
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

Jesus want us to preach repentance and remission.
Remission is the cancellation of a debt, charge, or penalty.
Luke 24:47
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew 12:31-32,
31. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Unbelievers and Christians that are not yet matured should still be fed milk and allowed to grow gradually, so that they will not die prematurely (I'm talking about the Spiritual death).
For instance, if somebody has an addiction, the person cannot stop the addiction immediately because the flesh cannot do more than itself but the person can heal gradually with the help of the Holy Spirit, you might even have to take the person to a rehabilitation centre if it is discovered that the person needs medical attention especially in a case of drug addiction.

If you are preaching to such a person about punishment and you do not add the preaching of grace to it, you are just condemning the person and injuring the person further because there is nothing he can do about his state, even if he is touched by your words and he wants to change, he cannot help himself.
Galatians 5:16-17
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Some Christians don't know much about the Holy Spirit, they don't have a relationship with the the Holy Spirit yet and nobody can please God or overcome the flesh without the Holy Spirit.
John 14:15,16,26
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Luke 11:13
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Romans 8:14,
For all who are led by God’s Spirit are God’s children.

hayzed1090:
In a summary, u are free to continue in sin, lying, fornication, adultery, smoking, gambling etc as long as u av faith in the good news.

The truth is, as much as u are preaching the good news, it is still important to let the people know that there is a severe punishment if u die a sinner

Preaching grace to people does not mean we are telling people to continue in their sins or that they can sin at will, preaching grace to people is just a way of telling people that they should not feel condemned when they sin because they can still ask for forgiveness from God and be forgiven. There is nothing wrong with preaching grace, as long as the preacher is not preaching it wrongly.

It is mandate for Pastors to make their members understand that there are punishments for sin but it will be good for them to also make them understand that they can still be forgiven when they sin, as long as they are not sinning continuously and intentionally, so that they don't get discouraged. There are Christians that are no longer Christians because they feel it is too much for them to handle.

An infant can only take milk not solid. Some preachers give solid food during evangelism, some of the people they are going out to preach to don't even know Jesus. The first thing a preacher is meant to preach to an unbeliever is grace not punishment, when the unbeliever comes to Church he can know the rest because an unbeliever will not understand that he can mend his ways and become a new creature. He will not understand that if he is finding it difficult the Holy Spirit will be there to guide him and assist him. He will feel he has already been condemned because he doesn't have the power to change on his own.

Some evangelist don't preach all they do is condemn. They portray Jesus to people out there as a terrifying being and give solid food to people that are not matured enough to eat it. Even in the Church of God, there are people that are not matured enough to eat solid food yet, they are still drinking milk but they are becoming matured gradually.

For instance, if a mother give solid food to her little baby, the baby will reject it and if she forces it, it will not digest and she will end up hurting the child because solid food is only meant to be giving to a child when the child is matured enough to eat it.

1 corinthians 3:1-2
1. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

1 corinthians 9:19-22
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

Jman24:
Someone said psalm 7 is all about the future savior Jesus. That was where I needed clarification

Psalm 7 is just like every other prayers in Psalm. It is also a prayer for the nation, not for the psalmist alone.

Jman24:
Lol
Here you go again. I'm not interested in knowing if Jesus is God according to my line of argument. I'm only using the words of a few who said Psalms 7 is about future Jesus, to match a contradiction in psalm 118, which you call a prayer for people. Also trying to know why using a singular "I" shouldn't be referenced to the psalmist rather than a future savior

The prayers in the Book of Psalm is also for the nation not for the Psalmist alone.

There are other Godly men that used I when praying, for example Prophet Isaiah and Prophet Jeremiah and we still use their prayers as prayer points.
Isaiah 12:2,
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.
Jeremiah 12:1,
Righteous art thou, O Lord, when I plead with thee: yet let me talk with thee of thy judgments: Wherefore doth the way of the wicked prosper? wherefore are all they happy that deal very treacherously?

I don't understand what you really mean by
"Also trying to know why using a singular "I" shouldn't be referenced to the psalmist rather than a future savior." Can you broke it down so that I can understand?

1Sharon:
The holy spirit cannot tell you my mind?
Yeye.

What has the Holy Spirit got to do with petty discussions like this? I don't blame you, it is not your fault, I shouldn't have started a conversation with such an irresponsible and immature human being like you. May God has mercy on me and forgive me.

You can't handle a simple conversation, you even have the guts to bring other people's faith to it. Anyway, it is your phone, you can type whatever you want to type, keep on typing. I really don't have time for an uncultured human being like you.

If everybody on nairaland were like you, I would have preferred to deactivate my account on nairaland than to discuss with such people but there are a lot of reasonable people on nairaland. I have disagreed with some of people on nairaland but none of them have behavioured so mannerless. If everybody was like you, then this world would have been a very violent place and people would have even be murdered for voicing out their opinions.

I am very sorry for speaking to you. Before now, I did not know the type of person you are, I will make sure this doesn't repeat itself.

1Sharon:
Why would I want to ask a christard questions?

Why would you want to ask a christard questions? it seems this question is for you, how I am suppose to know your mind? It is possible you directed it to me by mistake.

1Sharon:
Nah you're just slow

When you are matured enough to handle conversations, you can come and ask me questions.

1Sharon:
Prove what I said was baseless. Address my points, you don't get to just call it baseless without addressing why.

Yet here you still are

What will be the point of my explanation, when you won't understand? Our mentality is different, I cannot explain further.

1Sharon:
Dolt. I brought those old responses back so you could comprehend because you are slow and didn't grasp my reply.

Speaking of off-point, what does YOUR response have to do with my last response to you?

Classic hypocritical Christian.

I decided to stop the argument because it was baseless. I could not continue moving around a circle.

I never said I was a Saint. Now that you have voiced out your opinion about me, I hope you are good.

1Sharon:
And In response to your initial mention I said this:



British people are alot smaller than the people they colonized. Duh!

No, Christianity would not have existed without colonization. Christianity is a popular religion today because it was forced onto people.

Islam is also a popular religion because it was forced onto people.


You brought up Ethiopia, do Africans practise the brand of Christianity from Ethiopia or do they practise the kind gotten from European colonizers? Ethiopia is one country.

If you are not trying to appeal to numbers, why do you keep bringing up numbers and statistics?
Do you understand now or you want me break it down further?

I suggest reading my responses multiple times

You complained yourself that you are losing your brain cells, why are you doing this to yourself? See now, you are beginning to go off the point and you are bringing back old conversations that have already been discussed. I cannot stress myself, I have stated the facts, you don't have to accept it, you have said enough, at least you participated. Please go and rest, it is for your own good. This is only an advice, the decision is in your hands.

1Sharon:
Had nothing to do with faith? So what is this?



Please be gone. The more I interact with you, the more brain cells I lose.

Those are obvious facts that I just used to explain my points, when I was explaining to you that Christianity would have still existed, even without colonisation. I did not condemn other people's religion. It is just like saying Buhari is the president of Nigeria, isn't that obvious, even people that are not from Nigeria can browser on the internet and find out.

Did I say the religion with the highest percentage of followers is definitely the true religion? No, we didn't have such argument, that means you are going off the point. Everybody's religion is true to them, I don't argue with people about their faith.

If your head cannot take it, I will advise to stop questioning, so that you will not start complaining to me later that you are having headache or that all your brain cells is gone because of this discussion.

1Sharon:
So why have you been going back and forth with almost 24 hours?

Classic christian

Our initial discussion had nothing to do with faith. It had to do with obvious fact that both Christians and non-christians could understand, if they do their researches about it.

1Sharon:
So why are you here!! Are you dumb?

Can't you partake in discussions without insults? I thought you were responsible enough to understand that this is a forum not your father's house, we are all free to give our personal opinion as long as it does not violate the rules and regulations of the forum.

I did not insult you for your opinion, I only corrected you, you could choose to ignore it or debate it, you don't have right to insult me. Next time try to be matured and have some manners. Insulting people only shows your level of understanding. So when things don't go your way, you attack, you are so funny.

Personally I don't partake in any religion arguments that will lead to religion wars or insult on my faith.

Only God can comfort the mother of the boy, she is doing through a lot right now.

Jman24:
If Psalm 118( I shall not die but live...) is a prayer, why can't Psalm 7:2( I will declare the decree of the Lord..) be a prayer for people to be begotten of the father?

Both of them starts with the singular "I"

The only prove I will give you about Jesus being God is the words of Jesus Himself and if you debate it, there is no reason for me to argue with you. I know Jesus can never lie but people that doesn't understand the things of the Spirit might say otherwise about Him.

Psalm is full of prayers and we are permitted to pray for what we want, so why should we pray for what we don't want?
Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Our prayer is our request to God. If I don't want to become a doctor, should I request for it from God because somebody else is requesting it? My own wish is different from somebody else wish. Jesus Christ accepted to die on the cross, He was not forced, so why should He have prayed not to suffer? Did He want His mission to be demolished?

Jesus is not a follower of David, why should He say or do everything that David does?
Don't compare Jesus to David, they are not equal. Jesus is the God of David and He is also a father to David. David called Jesus Lord, Jesus Himself said it in Matthew 22:41-46 and Psalm 110:1 confirms it.
Matthew 22: 41-46.
41. While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
42. Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.
43. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
44. The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
45. If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?
46. And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
Psalm 110:1
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Jesus Himself proclaimed that He is God in John 10:30, 
I and my Father are one.
John 1:1-18 explains the Jesus Christ is God.
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2.The same was in the beginning with God.
3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18.No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Jman24:
You are just contradicting yourself.
Since he died physically why did Psalm 118 say he wasn't given over to death?(this is simple English in the affirmative that he didn't die physically) it is quite different from " he wasn't abandoned to death"

Psalm 118 is not the prophecy of the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, if you are interested in knowing about the prophecy of the birth and death of Jesus Christ read Isaiah 53:5-12. Psalm 118 is simply a prayer by David.

Psalm 118: 17-18
17. I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the Lord.
18 The Lord hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.

Verse 17 is a common Christian prayer that we shall not die but live to declare the works of the Lord. Even David that wrote the prayer died physically but he declared the works of God before his death.

In Verse 18, David was acknowledging the mercy of God, David sinned many times but God kept correcting him and even punish him sometimes but God did not get angry with him to extend of killing him before his appointed time.