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Gabbriell:
Bros u were ranting like a kid...that's y the guy appproach you in a similar manner.

The so-called achievement you are mentioning is nothing compared to that of some people here.

Be calming down.

Before being an advocate, i will like you to scroll up to whatever i wrote on my first comment on this post and read for yourself, talk is cheap you know..

The guy in question is a student who is tired of sitting at home and would not take any comment that goes against what he believes or think should be about the lingering strike, but i just said the obvious, many students do not even know how things are done in the outside, and truely you do not expect a trade union to bend the government the way ASUU wants to do.

Like i said, it is a faceless forum, and only children talk anyhow in a faceless forum.

Rilwayne001:
Heard FG is just only ready to pay 2 months out of the 4

ASUU might receive their salaries but it will not be in full.
They (ASUU) will just have to take that offer for now, because that is the best they can get.

SILVERLINES:
how old are you?
Children like these shouldn't poke into serious matter with silly comments.

I really think Seun should create a special channel on Naira where these kids can meet and interact among themselves.

I thought of ignoring you, but it would be better i make something clear to you, i am very sure you are a student. Highest you can be is 400l, which means i finished my first degree around 2years before you can ever think of achieving you dream of being a graduate.

I do not blame you, we see such things on faceless forums everyday.

sinkhole:
I don't know whether it is real or not but I know for sure that ASUU members have not received their witheld salaries as at the time of typing this and I don't know how ASUU will suspend strike without salary alert

FG will never pay ASUU members before they suspend strike, best they can do is to conditionally suspend the strike or FG pay them one month salary out of the four months before the suspension of strike.

qwertie1234:
how do I start explaining my points all over again to this chronic fool..OK mumu listen very carefully now , if ASUU shud call of the strike this year , they're gonna av to resume immediately as dey don't av the capacity to fix a later date..and if dey resume dis year, xmas plus new year holiday officially commence by december 24 and ends 2nd january( though 27 -29th december are suppose to b working days but practically, nothing reasonable happen those days) today's date is 16th, let's assume your protest holds tomorrow 17th and ASUU calls of 18th and u leave for scul on 19th..so u want to go to scul just to stay for 4 days before festive holiday commence..y not do the protest next year by say 4th so that wen ASUU calls of the strike( hopefully) and ofcourse , with immediate notification on resumption. u know u are resumin fully ..and lets use this year to carry out massive sensitization, strategies and preparations for the upcoming protest..I suspect u probably a product of a very low birth APGA score which resulted in your congenital stupidity and diminished thinking capacity but at least my explanation this time was very simple...I underestimated your stupidity ab initio and I'm sorry for dat
judging by the way you write-"fuçking Xmas".. "fuçking family".. "fuçkin this, fuçkin that" I'm very sure you don't even believe HIV still exist so how on earth can anyhow convince an embodiment of fuçkery like u dat covid19 is real here in nigeria( eventhough it has a milder effect on the average immuno-competent African)

Oga forget the name calling, the guy is right, if ASUU should call off strike today, no university will resume this year, remember the university management have to first call for a senate meeting to comfirm the date of resumption....

About the suitable time to protest, actually there is no suitable time to protest, you can even protest on christmas day if you want, ENDSARS protest started without a n actual date, but most importantly i wish you both stop the name calling.

Temiel:
See how you're boldly spitting rubbish.
Go and read your newspapers again.

I will not respond to your fowl language but will want you to qoute me on the outcome of the meeting.

xcelpro:
This thread is created for today's ASUU scheduled meeting with FG. Please if you have any update concerning the meeting do drop it here.

Now looking at the state of things if ASUU fails to call off or suspend the strike this December that means all students affected will continue in the waiting game till further notice.

What a system!

There is no FG, ASUU meeting today, best they can have meeting is friday.

brain02:
be like say you no know ASUU shaa...the same ASUU that said government should declare a state of emergency in education for 2 to 5 years. The union is tired of promises since 1999. I guess it's time for fulfillment of promises. perhaps this government is full of lies..this same government that said there was no military at end SARS protest, to army was present , to it was rubber bullet that was shot, to live bullet was brought but no directed to anyone... funniest thing is that the withheld salaries will be paid at the end.

Guy don't tell me you believed those propaganda by ASUU zonal chairpersons, those series of press conference by zonal chairpersons is to put fear in the mind of students and parent so they can pressure FG to meet their demands. Forget ASUU sturbornes, dem dey hear am.

sinkhole:
[ If ASUU resumes and students are in school and ASUU attempts another strike, there will be riots and ASUU members head will be broken
ASUU will never enter that kain trap

Who will riot. This same toothless Nigeria students?

Between, no be who you see, you go break im head?

ProphetM0hammad:
What about the meeting ASUU turned down saying they got a short notice?
ASUU is not serious. They are just waiting for the big payday. Previous Government shouldn't have taken it easy with ASUU with regards to paying salaries after strike. FG must show them something this time around even though it will waste more time, but it will save more in the future.

The Legislative arm of the Government should wade into the matter by consulting the constitution maybe ASUU should be paid those salaries or not.

Did ASUU really turn down a meeting with FG? This is serious, probably they want to wait and see if FG is serious about payment of salaries. ASUU better understand that they can never be against the law.

brain02:
buhari's Government can't be trusted. how do you expect them to resume without a pay?

they also have children to send back to schools like the way your parents will use money to send you back to your school after the strike has been suspended.

I'm fully in support of ASUU with the issue of withheld salaries. las las FG go still pay them na just the students time Dem dey waste.

See how you are saying it with all confidence as if they worked for the month owned, even ASUU president do not say it with this confidence, the truth is that FG might just decide to hold the said salary and nothing will happen, it is the students and ASUU members that will suffer, remind you that the EAA they are fighting has been owned since 2013.

I think the best ASUU can do is to give FG the benefit of doubt, suspend the strike this month "conditionally" and if by first quarter of next year their demands is not met, they can resume the industrial action.

edogu:
In 2013 ASUU strike, they made sure that every dime was paid before the strike was called off.

Check again, part of the EAA ASUU is fighting for is for 2013/2014.

sinkhole:
No news yet but the next meeting, I think, will be predicated on the receipt of salaries by ASUU members, which I think should be on or before December 31st.

If FG really postponed the meeting, then students might stay at home for another five months because FG might just want to allow ASUU just like they did before senate president called Ngige to meet with ASUU leadership.

sinkhole:
Alright, we keep watching!
I hope to remember to quote you when FG pays the salaries before strike suspension (or both, concurrently)

I also wish they pay before suspension of strike, but this is government, in every agreement, government seems to claim tobe right. Lets watch and see.

Between is there any news about new meeting date?

sinkhole:
Just as you yourself said somewhere else and from what I quoted below, ASUU did not say that strike will be suspended yesterday and FG did not say that salaries of ASUU will be paid yesterday!
From the quotation below, the process of paying the ASUU salaries will be starting yesterday and of course, it will be suicidal for ASUU to suspend strike without receipt of their salaries.
So, I think both FG and ASUU are still together.

If you have ever deal with government you will understand that FG will never pay ASUU withheld salaries if they do not suspend the ongoing strike, there are so many other trade unions in Nigeria, if FG should pay ASUU now, then every other union will want to get more sturborn, just like Ngige said that FG is solving the issues "holistically". Expect NASU, NAAT and SSANNU to start thesame strike, even doctors will go on strike anyhow knowing fully that their salaries is being saved to be paid later.

A presidential waiver was granted ASUU some months ago and their salaries were paid, what made them think same thing will not happen this time around.

edogu:
What about the students?

who do you blame, the students are not serious, if they were, strike should have ended long ago.

sinkhole:
I believe they did but our FG is always trying to play pranks! Remember that after the last meeting, it was reported that ASUU demanded that nothing should be disclosed to the press untill final and conclusive agreement has been reached.

This is more reason why people should ask questions, what was said in the last meeting that ASUU president don't want made known to press, we pick one devil from two parties and make the other an angel....

bahaushe1:
I have asked myself the same question time and again.

The leadership of the union is fully aware that members will not agree to suspension of the strike without salary and earned allowance paid. This point should have been made very clear to government representatives at the November 27th meeting.

ASUU president is not sincere, remember he asked Ngige not to make public the offers and agreements they had on 27th nov claiming it will anger his members, he claimed only ASUU chairpersons can suspend the strike, i believe a handfull of those chairpersons are members of the National strike commitee and Trustee of the union.

bahaushe1:
I also feel the leadership of the union should have made it clear to the government that the strike will only be suspended after payment of salary.

It seems government is either not aware of this or is deliberately holding on to the salary as a bargaining tool. Either way it will not help any party.

There is no any consultation going on. The issue is that of release of salary and earned allowance; once that is done the strike will be suspended.

You people don't get it, i understand what Ngige is heading at, if FG should pay ASUU loyal members their withheld salaries once before suspenion of strike then every other union will want to prove sturborn, ASUU can not be above the law, there was a presidential waiver before and they received 5 months salary they did not work for, what made them think FG will not pay the remaining four months.

ASUU should stop being a cry baby.

SirWarlock:
Funny ASUU uses two weeks for consultation . Maybe ASUU excos are doing it branch by branch, who knows . I hope after all these Nigerian universities break into the top 100 sha .

My question is, what is ASUU still for to get back to the governmenmt?

Gabbriell:
It is hard to go into an agreement with a lair. The lying spirit in this goverment is scary.

Ngige clearly said ASUU agreed to suspend the strike on 9th and in return, they agree to pay them their salaries base on presidential waver.
https://punchng.com/ASUU-agreed-to-call-off-strike-dec-9-ngige/?amp=1


Here ASUU said they never said so..and those at the meeting has no power to call of the strike.



“The leadership of ASUU has consistently stated at every meeting with high ranking government officials that the union’s representatives have no mandate to take final decision on any strike action by the union. All the leadership does is to present government offers through its organs, and that we have done faithfully in the current situation.


“ASUU recognises and appreciates the concerns of all Nigerians who have been calling for an early resolution of the ongoing crisis. It was a needless crisis in the first place. It happened because government has consistently failed to faithfully implement the Agreements it freely signed with the union.

If you read carefully ASUU presidents statement, you will see that he is hiding something, he said they agreed to take the offer to their organs with a view of calling off the strike, remember in their last meeting ASUU president insisted that the details of their meeting should not be made public, what is he afriad of?

The both parties are liars, crooks.

edogu:
The Academic Staff Union of Universities on Wednesday gave conditions that must be satisfied before calling off its nine months old strike.

The lecturers said they did not reach any understanding with the government to suspend the strike on December 9, 2020.

The President of ASUU, Prof Biodun Ogunyemi, made the clarification in a statement entitled: ‘Why the strike has not been suspended.’

He said the union representatives only told FG’s delegation that it would take the government’s offer to the branches through the various organs of the union and report back.

According to him, there was nothing in the government offer of November 27, 2020, to suggest that conclusion as allegedly claimed by the Minister of Labour and Employment, Chris Ngige.

He said, “The leadership of ASUU has been inundated with enquiries on why the ongoing strike action has not been suspended. This was sequel to the widely reported claims by some government agents that all the demands of ASUU have been met and that the union agreed to suspend the strike action today, 9th December, 2020. Nothing can be farther from the truth!

“To put the records straight, the Principal Officers and Trustees who constitute the core of representatives of ASUU at negotiation meetings with government are not constitutionally empowered to suspend any strike action.
“Whatever comes out of an engagement with agents of the government is an offer which must be taken back to the branches through the various organs of the union.

“Views and perspectives on offers by governments are aggregated and presented to government agents as counter-offers. This trade union strategy of offer and counter-offer is continually deployed until the National Executive Council of ASUU – consisting of all recognised chairpersons – finally approves what it considers an acceptable offer from the government. It is only then that any strike action by ASUU can be suspended.

“At our last meeting in the office of the Minister of Labour and Employment on 27th November, 2020, the ASUU leadership promised to faithfully present the latest government offer to its members through the established tradition. The latest offer by government makes proposals on nearly all items of demand by the union with timelines.

“Among others, the document which was signed by the Hon. Minister of Labour and Employment, Senator Chris Ngige, contains proposals on inauguration of the reconstituted FGN-ASUU Renegotiation Committee (1st December, 2020); release of details about Visitation Panels (December 1 2020); working on the actualisation of the release of the withheld salaries of ASUU members (Wednesday December 9 2020). Clause 9 on the document reads: “Based on these conclusions reached on items 1-8, ASUU’s leadership will consult its organs with a view to suspending the on-going strike” (Italics, for emphasis).

“Therefore, the ASUU leadership did not reach any understanding with government to suspend the strike on December 9 2020 and there is nothing in the government offer of November 27 2020 to suggest that conclusion as allegedly claimed by the Minister of Labour and Employment.

“The leadership of ASUU has consistently stated at every meeting with high ranking government officials that the union’s representatives have no mandate to take final decision on any strike action by the union. All the leadership does is to present government offers through its organs, and that we have done faithfully in the current situation.

“ASUU recognises and appreciates the concerns of all Nigerians who have been calling for an early resolution of the ongoing crisis. It was a needless crisis in the first place. It happened because government has consistently failed to faithfully implement the Agreements it freely signed with the union.

“ASUU members, as stakeholders in the Nigerian University System, are equally worried and embarrassed that those in position of authority, over the years, displayed seeming indifference to the rot and decay in Nigeria’s public universities. We think it is not too late to do a rethink. We believe if there is the will, there will be a way.

“ASUU acknowledges some more recent interventions aimed at resolving the crisis. While the union is willing to cooperate with concerned authorities on the matter, this would not be done to its own detriment. So, the strike would only be suspended when the union’s organs affirm that the welfare and wellbeing of ASUU members, as well as the survival of our public universities, are su



https://punchng.com/strike-what-we-agreed-with-fg-ASUU-president/

ASUU president is dumb, two out of the three demands with timeline has been succssfully met.

Item 1 and 2 have been met, except for the process of salary which they were promised a presidential wavier but ASUU wants to be above the law, FG should just leave them, when they are tired they can go back to work.

sinkhole:
The handler of that Parody handle also scout internet for his news!
The handle may be fake but the news is generally authentic. Those who copy news from the Twitter page should have just tried more authentic media for news.

I still doubt that information, if you read it from thenation, sahara reporters and many other news houses, they qouted that fake twitter account, while Vanguard qouted a FHLnE spokesperson saying different thing about the postponement.

I strongly believe the meeting is on friday.

sinkhole:
Vanguard, Punch etc are also fake OR they also copied from fake site?

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/12/strike-fg-postpones-meeting-with-ASUU/

open these news sites and read the content carefully, most of them qouted that ASUU parody twitter account, the news doesn't have any details as to agree that there was actually a meeting which was suspended today, remember these same Nigeria newspapers told you last week that ASUU agreed to call of strike, others even reported that ASUU have called of it 8months old strike.

The only thing we know is that ASUU president said he will make a statement concerning suspension of strike later today....

Between in all the interviews with ASUU president he never mentioned meeting FG today... I might be wrong though.

sinkhole:

Stop qouting that fake news page, there was never FG, ASUU meeting today, best they can meet is Friday.
Between ASUU president said they will release a statement today.

ProphetM0hammad:
Exactly
Or when ASUU is ready.
According to Ngige
ASUU has been exempted from IPPIS
The 70B has been processed
The negotiation committee has been reconstituted.
The Gazetting process has been initiated too.
What's now left is the issue of salary arrears and there's the issue of the section 43 of the Trade act dispute to contend with here.
So ASUU should make up their mind, whether to suspend the strike, carry on for five years or resign totally. It's all up to them.
The Minister even claimed they were invited to a virtual conciliatory meeting, but they turned it down.
The last i heard from ASUU, they claimed they were still consulting with members. I know this is usually a long procedure for them, perhaps theg will be done after three weeks, afterall they have to reach out to their members in Saturn and Uranus, this takes time.

Haha, ASUU saying they are still consulting is just a delay tactics to buy time and see if FG will pay them their outstanding salary before noon today, but ASUU is not serious, thesame Ngige made it possible for their salaries to be paid from March to June, why won't thesame ASUU trust him to pay the remaining four months salary.

Like you said, ASUU rather call off the strike between today and friday or strike for the next five years.

sinkhole:
As at today, NO lecturer have seen nada
It's like FG started last week and then abruptly stopped This APC FG can never be trusted

What did FG start and stopped?

sinkhole:

There is no FG, ASUU meeting on wednesday, best they can meet is Friday.

sinkhole:
Some of them I know have not gotten any salary yet and the report they have from most Unis is the same and today is Tuesday!

ASUU should know that FG will not pay them all outstanding salary at once and they will not receive any penny without calling off the strike, the best they can do is to suspens the strike conditionally.

Bigbosz:
This is not their official page,
There two different twitter handle the one that follows 11 or 12 people is the real handle

You mean the "real" fake twitter account?

sinkhole:

I don't even expect serious person to carry info from that fake account, FG stated it that once an agreement have been reached 30bn will be paid to NUC account to be disbured to ASUU, NASU, SSANNu and NAAT while the remaining 40billion will be sourced starting from March next year for funding of the universities.

The only issue now is the timeline FG gave to start paying the withheld salaries of ASUU members, if FG can start the process this week, then by Friday strike will end for now.

ThompsonJoo:
UNIPORT vote in favour of the strike says FG offer not enough

No circular from the chapter? Mind you, only the chairman cannot decide for the chapter, there must be a vote.