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PoliticsRe: Can The North Survive Without The Niger-delta Oil? by savanaha: 10:40pm On Jun 02, 2009
mikeansy:
I don't think the North necessarily benefits from the oil in the Delta

Rather the Northern Elite has been the beneficiaries and as such have benefited even more than anybody from Oloibiri in the Bayelsa village where oil was first discovered.

I believe the greatest tragedy of the situation is that the South has been unable to isolate the Northern Elite from the ordinary Northerner.
The Northern Elite is nothing without the ordinary Northerner, and so long as the ordinary Northerner who suffers as much from poverty as those in the South do not realise that they are just being exploited by their own Elite Class, the Northern Elite will continue to hold the Nation hostage.

All we ask of the Elite Notherners is to Educate their own people and stop exploiting them.
But then if they become educated then they will know that they are being exploited by their wealthier supposed brothers in which case things will surely fall apart for the elites. Its kind of how the slave masters prevented slaves from becoming literate. If the oppressed becomes enlightened then they will see the true face of their oppressors
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 10:37pm On Jun 02, 2009
KnowAll:
You cannot compare a language spoken by about 35%(Swahili ) of the african continuent with a Igbo a language spoken by less than 2% of the African continuent. Ugandas and Tanzanians that speak the language will recognised the great skill and mastery Ngugi wa Thiong has in presenting his prose in swahili so they can judge and recommend him for a Nobel price. Do you seriouly expect a yoruba man to recognised your eloquence and erudite igbo skill, neither can I nor 98% other Africans judge you. You will have to communicate in a more universal language for u to get that recognition.
Interestingly the people that appreciate Ngugi wa Thiong are not only Tanzanians and Ugandas. Also as odd as it might seem, Igbo is not only spoken by Nigerians there are several other African countries where Igbo is spoken and understood if we were to use your logic. So you as a Yoruba man can you speak Swahili? I know Spanish writers and I am not that fluent in Spanish. The fact of the matter is there is no shame in promoting your culture. Most Nigerians are ashamed of their culture because it seems backwards. People mastering a language they have heard from birth will not make them "illiterate" English speakers (whatever that means) and if English is not important enough to someone they can still accomplish many things because translators will always be around.
Jokes EtcRe: Does Yaradua Have Any Other Daughters? by savanaha: 10:24pm On Jun 02, 2009
oyinda.:
I'm surprised too. lol


@ Poster, how old are you? If ur above 60 yrs U might have a shot. do u have a first wife? having a first wife gives u bonus points as well
First wife!?!! You mean third wife. He likes the man to have a line of experience with women before his daughters turn. Everyone wants the best for their children
PoliticsRe: Nigerians And Big Grammar? by savanaha: 10:22pm On Jun 02, 2009
freed:
be proud? if thats how an english man or our professeurs spoke to us none of us here will be here today. Its all about communicating not big words.

ole Soyinka at a conference used so many supersized words that most people in the audience couldnt understand even a white man sitting next to me kept asking me what he was saying throughout.
Hahahhaaaa grin
RomanceRe: I'm 27, She's 16: Should I Disvirgin Her? by savanaha: 10:21pm On Jun 02, 2009
C2H5OH:
sixteen-year-olds get deflowered all the time.
Not usually be people old enough to be your dad
RomanceRe: When A Friendship Goes Sour - Long by savanaha: 10:00pm On Jun 02, 2009
If the only thing the friendrelationship worth losing is the friendship the you better confront her and tell her buh bye brfore she does something worse than lie to you.
Jokes EtcRe: Does Yaradua Have Any Other Daughters? by savanaha: 9:44pm On Jun 02, 2009
gestapo:
What are these naija boys in UK turning into huh

The other day it was one boy lying to girls that he is an heir to a kingdom in nigeria, just to get into their kingdom to mess it up, now another jobless boy claims he is governor of his room looking to be a gold digger

Its sad. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Its a joke because the Yar adua he suppossed president allowed his 21 yr old daughter to marry a 50 something year old man with 3or 4 other wives prior because he is the governor of some state. Chill, the posters comment is actaully extremely funny!!
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 9:37pm On Jun 02, 2009
KnowAll:
@savannah

I did not say Anambra state will be illetrates. I said the state is breeding a new generation of English language illetrates there is a difference. I am an illetrate spanish speaker becos I can neither read nor understand spanish.

illetrate english speakers - That is the bone of contention. I said that Anambra state will breed a new generation of illetrate english speakers. I am not disputing that Anambra state might however produce distinguish scholars who are erudite and versed in Igbo language, but such feat as admirable as it might be pales into insignificance as the brilliance gets whittled down as any attempt to translate such literal work and knowledge into English might be lost in translation. However if the same scholar communicates in a language which 3/4 of the world speaks and understand with the same literal knowledge and mastery of the language not only does the profile of such individual enhances in a world stage they might also be a potential candidate for a Nobel price in literature(Wole Soyinka ) and the envy of the original owners of the language alas England and America.
@ knowAll
please look at the OED meaning of illiterate and explain to me how someone can be an illiterate English speaker or what that has to do with people learning their own language. One does not have to only know English to become a nobel nobel laureate. There are many books and pieces of literature that have been translated but have not lost much. Ngugi wa Thiong'o is aclaimed and many of his writings are in his native Kenyan tongue and he has not lost importance. Its just sad that you are trying to explain away how inferior you deem yourself and Non European language Speakers. Alexis de Tocqueville did not lose importance when his writings were translated to English, neither have many other books.
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 8:32pm On Jun 02, 2009
ifyalways:
I thought it was compulsory in 9ja to sit for one language course in WAEC?The student gets to choose whichever lang he/she wants but it depends largely on the available teachers?My cousins in lagos then were forced to do Yourba in Waec cos they did not have Igbo teachers.
The bill is Ok but the fine seems ridiculous.doubt if anyone wud pay anything.
Aside the bill,If the senators want to achieve the said purpose,they shld pls go out to OUR schools and ban this very popular and dangerous grammer "Vernacular/igbo speaking is highly prohibited except during break time or igbo classes.
Those days in sch.,speaking igbo was a crime,the school prefects deal with u when they hear u speak igbo. . . .infact the class prefects where made to complile a list of offenders who get really dealt with for speaking igbo in school in an igbo speaking town . . .what a shame. sad
That's what Ngugi wa Thiong'o talked about. People were humiliated for speaking their native tongue in their own country. How shameful! And now there are idiots on here that have the mentality so engrained that anything unEnglish is illiterate, unnecessary. Wake up people!
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 7:18pm On Jun 02, 2009
bawomolo:
language requirements depend on college major.

i didn't take a language class in college nor in high school.

Well i did take french in nigeria. bonjour osisi grin.
I don't know what state you went to high school but in Ohio you have to take atleast 2 years of language in high school
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 7:06pm On Jun 02, 2009
KnowAll:
North, most backward –Aliero


Looks like Anambra are in a competition with the north to see who can bee more backwards us or them. By adopting Igbo as the language of commerce u are only going to breed a generation of illetrate english speakers. When the whole world is learning how to speak english even spanish and french are dicting their own languages to learn english, Anambra is turning the clock back learning a language that is only spoken in small enclave in Nigeria. It would have done Anambra more good if they made Mandarin the language of choice in anambra state going by the volume of business transcation between Anambra state and china. undecided
@ KnowAll
Do you know what illiterate means? From the Oxford English dictionary (since the queen of England is your mother) illiteracy is explained as:

1. a. Of persons: Ignorant of letters or literature; without book-learning or education; unlettered, unlearned; spec. (in reference to census returns, voting by ballot papers, etc.) unable to read, i.e. totally illiterate. Also, more generally, characterized by ignorance or lack of learning or subtlety (in any sphere of activity). Cf. ILLITERACY.

1556 LAUDER Tractate 453 No more can Iudgis Illitturate Discus ane mater. a1635 NAUNTON Fragm. Reg. (Arb.) 50 Neither [was he] illiterate; for he was, as he would often professe, a friend to Sir Philip Sidney, and there are of his now extant, some fragments of his Poem. 1670 W. CLARKE Nitre 29 Every illiterate person talks of Brimstone in Lightning. 1748 CHESTERFIELD Lett. (1792) II. clii. 38 The word illiterate, in its common acceptation, means a man who is ignorant of those two languages [Greek and Latin]. 1826 E. IRVING Babylon II. VIII. 291 The illiterate fishermen of Galilee overcame the wit and learning of Greece and Rome. 1881 Echo 13 Jan. 1/5 The illiterate voter appeared rather prominently in the proceedings. 1953 Ann. Reg. 1952 397 The pre-war type of speculative builder's house, which by its illiterate design, had been largely responsible for the poor reputation of English suburban architecture. 1956 C. S. LEWIS Let. (1966) 268 One must first distinguish the effect which music has on, people like me who are musically illiterate and get only the emotional effect. 1962 Sunday Times (Colour Suppl.) 10 June 4 The ‘traditionalists’, who are in the main musically illiterate.

b. Of things: Characterized by or showing ignorance of letters, or absence of learning or education; unlearned, unpolished.

1597 A. M. tr. Guillemeau's Fr. Chirurg. * 6b, The harshnes of my illeterate and rude stile. 1621 BURTON Anat. Mel. I. ii. III. xv. (1651) 134 The Civil Law with us, an illiterate and barbarous Study. 1781 GIBBON Decl. & F. II. 75 The disadvantage of an illiterate education. 1870 MAX MÜLLER Sc. Relig. (1873) 102 The, crowd of bookless or illiterate religions.

2. In sense of L. illïttertus: Unfurnished with letters, not written upon; not expressed in words; unwritten; inarticulate. rare.

1645 MILTON Tetrach. (1851) 198 Confidently to those who have read good bookes, and to those whose reason is not an illiterate booke to themselves I appeale. 1715 tr. C'tess D'Aunoy's Wks. 428 All good Council we refuse, And our Illiterate Sorrows only bear. 1888 E. PEACOCK in Cath. Househ. 18 Aug. 11/1 Some few old bells, are without any inscription, but these ‘illiterate’ bells are very rare.

B. n. An illiterate, unlearned, or uneducated person; spec. (in reference to census or polling returns, etc.), a person unable to read.

1628 WITHER Brit. Rememb. v. 1737 Not as a weakling, or illiterate. 1710 STEELE Tatler No. 200 3 There is no manner of Competition between a Man of Liberal Education and an Illiterate. 1865 Pall Mall G. 13 Sept. 4/1 We have been told that the intellectual tests we have introduced into our army will exclude from it the dashing illiterates whose stout hearts and strong thews and sinews made it what it was under the Duke. 1883 Athenæum 3 Feb. 152/2 Regarding the number of ‘cannot reads’, Iowa is the ‘banner State’, having out of its total population but 2·4 per cent. of illiterates. 1893 Times 3 Aug. 7/3 [He] stated that in Ireland the illiterates were 21 per cent. of the electors.


Just because someone is not fluent in Engliah doesn't make them an illiterate and just because you deem yourself fluent doesn't mean that you are above anyone. My grandmother might not be able to become an English professor but she can fleuntly speak, read and write Igbo and read her Igbo bible, she only uses English to get by.

And on your ranting of commerce and illiteracy. . . many Chinese business men have translators and they are more than getting bye. In fact in commerce most people, try to learn Chinese or Japanese rather than English. In case you haven't noticed while you were couped in your Englishness, Great Britain is no longer great and God save you (America) as your mother the queen of England puts it.

We are no longer living under the rule of colonialism where speaking your language in public caused you to be flogged and abused as described by Ngugi wa Thiong'o. This acclaimed writer switched to only writing in his native tongue and he is no less literate than you Mr. Know(it)All.

Spanish people who live in America and only speak Spanish are not less literate than you. Infact a Polish man who became a millionaire decided to only serve Polish speaking people in America and gained wealth because of that.
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 5:35am On Jun 02, 2009
NINETOFIVE:
I will give you 15 naira if the current system in place takes you to the orbit.
Hahahaha!!!!!
FamilyRe: Would You Marry A Gurl/Guy You Met At Party Dancing/Fighting by savanaha: 5:27am On Jun 02, 2009
na2day?:
really? then i fit ur bill  grin grin grin
The picture of the man with the baby tied to his back is so cute and he is so into the laptop.
RomanceRe: The Real Things Women Want From Men Aside Money by savanaha: 5:09am On Jun 02, 2009
love2008:
i have been dating an nigerian man  ,I truly do love him .he told me that he loved me also and he wanted to be honest with me .he told me that he was married and that he got married for citizenship but when it is all over with he wants to be with me should i believe him.
I wonder what the person might have told his "for citizenship" wife before she became that.
RomanceRe: The Real Things Women Want From Men Aside Money by savanaha: 5:04am On Jun 02, 2009
I think its interesting when people take something complex and condense it into an ill fitting characterization to seem like they understand. No one can easily tell what women want. That's because everyone is different including women, women are different! No two person wants exactly the same thing because no two people are the same. We made have the same basic physical characteristics (which differs too) but we are not the same. I think it is shallow to assume that one person can definitively say what a group of people want, a whole gender. There are women from different backgrounds who something might be important to but the same thing unimportant to another. Some females thing gucci and coach and cute boys and shoes and purses etc are important and to me the importance placed on the aforementioned is neither necessary nor worth it.
FashionRe: Fixed Fake Hair by savanaha: 3:36am On Jun 02, 2009
*Hauwa*:
careful what you stroke through. . . kwarikwata dey undecided
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 3:32am On Jun 02, 2009
biina:
I think that schools at primary and secondary level should teach at least 2 Nigerian languages, with one being indigenous to the state.

Also there should be relevant curriculum to teach the history, cultures and tradition of the various parts of the countries i.e a  renovated version of the social studies of old. A lot of Nigerians know little to nothing about people from other parts of the country, and this makes it more difficult to cooperate towards a common goal. If you do not know where one is coming from, it is difficult to appreciate where he is headed.

The misunderstanding is evident even on NL, where most discussions easily degenerate to tribal tantrums.
Exactly
PoliticsRe: I Was A Doctor In Nigeria, Now A Cleaner In Canada by savanaha: 3:21am On Jun 02, 2009
becomrich.:
Aloy I scored 70 in GNS in the university. and the reason iwent to ilorin was that my friend was in unilorin .

you are childish. y[b]ou are an ungrateful igboman. who should be grateful for what the yorubas have done for the Igbo,[/b] but you stay online 24 hrs insulting Yorubas go get job.
becomrich.:
aloy and myself , it have to do with tribe. read others in the past. he only comes online to abuse yorubas. and you igbos should know we take it personal. We dont go about insulting your people and you should not to us.
Really!!?!!!
FashionRe: Afro Vs Hi Top Fade by savanaha: 3:14am On Jun 02, 2009
I wear an Afro when I can. I love, love, love afros. Summer fros are the best, its just a sexy look. I love it. I go googoo gaga for guys with afros. My my they are sexy!! Me and my fro walking with a guy wearing his fro, love devine like seal sang
PoliticsRe: Anambra's Igbo Language Bill by savanaha: 3:03am On Jun 02, 2009
Even people living in America are paying to learn Igbo so why should Igbo children in Nigeria not learn their own language. Places like the Ohio State University offers Igbo classes. Spanish children in America speak both English and Spanish, so why are children in their own country placing English at a higher rank than their own language?
FamilyRe: I Don't Like Jide Kosoko Anymore by savanaha: 2:41am On Jun 02, 2009
Is polygamy legal in Nigeria? Well scratch that question since the presidents daughter got married to a man with several other wives. You should show his picture so  know who your talking about?
TravelAnyone In Iowa City Or At The University Of Iowa? by savanaha(op): 2:24am On Jun 02, 2009
I am doing a summer program at the University of Iowa and would like to know if there is anywhere that I could get some African food. Even an African food market will do, because I want to purchase some food stuff for the cooking I will be doing. I don't think Walmart has maggi cubes and food is just not that good without maggi cubes. Thanks in advance if you can help. I already feel like am in the boondocks.
PoliticsRe: Fashola Commissions 1,200 Cabs. Pictures by savanaha: 10:16pm On May 28, 2009
Another thing necessary should be better road rules or enforecement or already existing ones.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Attention Seun The Board Admin by savanaha: 3:19am On May 27, 2009
I think read somewhere that they admini's life was threatened by islamists so he made a muslim for islam section, to show how tolerance muslims are. And I think non-muslims are not allowed to post on here so I might be banned.
Foreign AffairsRe: Notre Dame: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly by savanaha: 7:39pm On May 21, 2009
Tayo-D:
@savhana,

When you've backed yoursel up to a wall, the next thing is to start dancing around the issues. Perhaps you should tell liberals like Al Gore, Obama and the DNC as a whole to make up the giving to the poor.  The statistics I provided above already shows that we conservatives are by far doing more for the poor than the vocal liberals who can't spend their money.
You apparently care about the conservatives and liberal thing alot so you can tell whoever whatever you want. When you don't want to go ahead a talk about issues you claim someone is dancing. What statistics prove where that the conservatives are giving which poor. When you get back to reality and away from your liberal vs conservative world please realize that it is better to help the babies and children not being cared for rather than worrying about ones that might be aborted. Most people that are anti abortion suggest that children should be given up for adoption as if they have parents lined up to take them.
Christianity EtcRe: Hurray! Evolutionists Have Their "missing Link" At Last! by savanaha: 7:32pm On May 21, 2009
debosky:
This is not really what this thread is about, but I can shed some light here. An experimental result will not be accorded much value unless it is reproducible. If other researchers attempt to reproduce the experiment under the same conditions and do not get the same results, then the initial findings will be questioned. Anyone who has engaged in research will be able to tell you this. Outliers cannot simply be removed without some valid justifications.

Scientific is not defined by one paper or publication, you need to look at the body of knowledge in the field before concluding.
Yes it is usually reproducible after being tweaked many times. Most science is just a copy of what has already been done by someone else and changing a little here and there. I've seen what I've said being done by someone that gets huge amounts in grants from many respectable sources including the government.
Foreign AffairsRe: Notre Dame: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly by savanaha: 7:23pm On May 21, 2009
Tayo-D:
@savanaha,

You guys are so twisted in your defences. Am I the one that made this about rich and poor or you? Aren't you the people claiming money is an issue in the killing of babies? I do not have that statistics but will appreciate you sharing them with me.
Who are you guys? The poor or the liberal. All I know is that most the people harking and pretending to care about aborted babies don't give two craps about living babies and children. People wailing that universal health care and what not is so that lazy people could free load off the rich. Minorities and women should be paid less than men and all that. Today its abortion tomorrow its something else. Babies are sent home from hospitals without full treatment because their parents can't pay. Lets help those already here and needing help first rather than playing holier than thou.

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