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mikeansy:But then if they become educated then they will know that they are being exploited by their wealthier supposed brothers in which case things will surely fall apart for the elites. Its kind of how the slave masters prevented slaves from becoming literate. If the oppressed becomes enlightened then they will see the true face of their oppressors |
KnowAll:Interestingly the people that appreciate Ngugi wa Thiong are not only Tanzanians and Ugandas. Also as odd as it might seem, Igbo is not only spoken by Nigerians there are several other African countries where Igbo is spoken and understood if we were to use your logic. So you as a Yoruba man can you speak Swahili? I know Spanish writers and I am not that fluent in Spanish. The fact of the matter is there is no shame in promoting your culture. Most Nigerians are ashamed of their culture because it seems backwards. People mastering a language they have heard from birth will not make them "illiterate" English speakers (whatever that means) and if English is not important enough to someone they can still accomplish many things because translators will always be around. |
oyinda.:First wife!?!! You mean third wife. He likes the man to have a line of experience with women before his daughters turn. Everyone wants the best for their children |
freed:Hahahhaaaa ![]() |
C2H5OH:Not usually be people old enough to be your dad |
If the only thing the friendrelationship worth losing is the friendship the you better confront her and tell her buh bye brfore she does something worse than lie to you. |
gestapo:Its a joke because the Yar adua he suppossed president allowed his 21 yr old daughter to marry a 50 something year old man with 3or 4 other wives prior because he is the governor of some state. Chill, the posters comment is actaully extremely funny!! |
KnowAll:@ knowAll please look at the OED meaning of illiterate and explain to me how someone can be an illiterate English speaker or what that has to do with people learning their own language. One does not have to only know English to become a nobel nobel laureate. There are many books and pieces of literature that have been translated but have not lost much. Ngugi wa Thiong'o is aclaimed and many of his writings are in his native Kenyan tongue and he has not lost importance. Its just sad that you are trying to explain away how inferior you deem yourself and Non European language Speakers. Alexis de Tocqueville did not lose importance when his writings were translated to English, neither have many other books. |
ifyalways:That's what Ngugi wa Thiong'o talked about. People were humiliated for speaking their native tongue in their own country. How shameful! And now there are idiots on here that have the mentality so engrained that anything unEnglish is illiterate, unnecessary. Wake up people! |
bawomolo:I don't know what state you went to high school but in Ohio you have to take atleast 2 years of language in high school |
KnowAll:@ KnowAll Do you know what illiterate means? From the Oxford English dictionary (since the queen of England is your mother) illiteracy is explained as: 1. a. Of persons: Ignorant of letters or literature; without book-learning or education; unlettered, unlearned; spec. (in reference to census returns, voting by ballot papers, etc.) unable to read, i.e. totally illiterate. Also, more generally, characterized by ignorance or lack of learning or subtlety (in any sphere of activity). Cf. ILLITERACY. 1556 LAUDER Tractate 453 No more can Iudgis Illitturate Discus ane mater. a1635 NAUNTON Fragm. Reg. (Arb.) 50 Neither [was he] illiterate; for he was, as he would often professe, a friend to Sir Philip Sidney, and there are of his now extant, some fragments of his Poem. 1670 W. CLARKE Nitre 29 Every illiterate person talks of Brimstone in Lightning. 1748 CHESTERFIELD Lett. (1792) II. clii. 38 The word illiterate, in its common acceptation, means a man who is ignorant of those two languages [Greek and Latin]. 1826 E. IRVING Babylon II. VIII. 291 The illiterate fishermen of Galilee overcame the wit and learning of Greece and Rome. 1881 Echo 13 Jan. 1/5 The illiterate voter appeared rather prominently in the proceedings. 1953 Ann. Reg. 1952 397 The pre-war type of speculative builder's house, which by its illiterate design, had been largely responsible for the poor reputation of English suburban architecture. 1956 C. S. LEWIS Let. (1966) 268 One must first distinguish the effect which music has on, people like me who are musically illiterate and get only the emotional effect. 1962 Sunday Times (Colour Suppl.) 10 June 4 The ‘traditionalists’, who are in the main musically illiterate. b. Of things: Characterized by or showing ignorance of letters, or absence of learning or education; unlearned, unpolished. 1597 A. M. tr. Guillemeau's Fr. Chirurg. * 6b, The harshnes of my illeterate and rude stile. 1621 BURTON Anat. Mel. I. ii. III. xv. (1651) 134 The Civil Law with us, an illiterate and barbarous Study. 1781 GIBBON Decl. & F. II. 75 The disadvantage of an illiterate education. 1870 MAX MÜLLER Sc. Relig. (1873) 102 The, crowd of bookless or illiterate religions. 2. In sense of L. illïttertus: Unfurnished with letters, not written upon; not expressed in words; unwritten; inarticulate. rare. 1645 MILTON Tetrach. (1851) 198 Confidently to those who have read good bookes, and to those whose reason is not an illiterate booke to themselves I appeale. 1715 tr. C'tess D'Aunoy's Wks. 428 All good Council we refuse, And our Illiterate Sorrows only bear. 1888 E. PEACOCK in Cath. Househ. 18 Aug. 11/1 Some few old bells, are without any inscription, but these ‘illiterate’ bells are very rare. B. n. An illiterate, unlearned, or uneducated person; spec. (in reference to census or polling returns, etc.), a person unable to read. 1628 WITHER Brit. Rememb. v. 1737 Not as a weakling, or illiterate. 1710 STEELE Tatler No. 200 3 There is no manner of Competition between a Man of Liberal Education and an Illiterate. 1865 Pall Mall G. 13 Sept. 4/1 We have been told that the intellectual tests we have introduced into our army will exclude from it the dashing illiterates whose stout hearts and strong thews and sinews made it what it was under the Duke. 1883 Athenæum 3 Feb. 152/2 Regarding the number of ‘cannot reads’, Iowa is the ‘banner State’, having out of its total population but 2·4 per cent. of illiterates. 1893 Times 3 Aug. 7/3 [He] stated that in Ireland the illiterates were 21 per cent. of the electors. Just because someone is not fluent in Engliah doesn't make them an illiterate and just because you deem yourself fluent doesn't mean that you are above anyone. My grandmother might not be able to become an English professor but she can fleuntly speak, read and write Igbo and read her Igbo bible, she only uses English to get by. And on your ranting of commerce and illiteracy. . . many Chinese business men have translators and they are more than getting bye. In fact in commerce most people, try to learn Chinese or Japanese rather than English. In case you haven't noticed while you were couped in your Englishness, Great Britain is no longer great and God save you (America) as your mother the queen of England puts it. We are no longer living under the rule of colonialism where speaking your language in public caused you to be flogged and abused as described by Ngugi wa Thiong'o. This acclaimed writer switched to only writing in his native tongue and he is no less literate than you Mr. Know(it)All. Spanish people who live in America and only speak Spanish are not less literate than you. Infact a Polish man who became a millionaire decided to only serve Polish speaking people in America and gained wealth because of that. |
NINETOFIVE:Hahahaha!!!!! |
na2day?:The picture of the man with the baby tied to his back is so cute and he is so into the laptop. |
love2008:I wonder what the person might have told his "for citizenship" wife before she became that. |
I think its interesting when people take something complex and condense it into an ill fitting characterization to seem like they understand. No one can easily tell what women want. That's because everyone is different including women, women are different! No two person wants exactly the same thing because no two people are the same. We made have the same basic physical characteristics (which differs too) but we are not the same. I think it is shallow to assume that one person can definitively say what a group of people want, a whole gender. There are women from different backgrounds who something might be important to but the same thing unimportant to another. Some females thing gucci and coach and cute boys and shoes and purses etc are important and to me the importance placed on the aforementioned is neither necessary nor worth it. |
*Hauwa*: |
biina:Exactly |
becomrich.: becomrich.:Really!!?!!! |
I wear an Afro when I can. I love, love, love afros. Summer fros are the best, its just a sexy look. I love it. I go googoo gaga for guys with afros. My my they are sexy!! Me and my fro walking with a guy wearing his fro, love devine like seal sang |
Even people living in America are paying to learn Igbo so why should Igbo children in Nigeria not learn their own language. Places like the Ohio State University offers Igbo classes. Spanish children in America speak both English and Spanish, so why are children in their own country placing English at a higher rank than their own language? |
Is polygamy legal in Nigeria? Well scratch that question since the presidents daughter got married to a man with several other wives. You should show his picture so know who your talking about? |
I am doing a summer program at the University of Iowa and would like to know if there is anywhere that I could get some African food. Even an African food market will do, because I want to purchase some food stuff for the cooking I will be doing. I don't think Walmart has maggi cubes and food is just not that good without maggi cubes. Thanks in advance if you can help. I already feel like am in the boondocks. |
Another thing necessary should be better road rules or enforecement or already existing ones. |
I think read somewhere that they admini's life was threatened by islamists so he made a muslim for islam section, to show how tolerance muslims are. And I think non-muslims are not allowed to post on here so I might be banned. |
Tayo-D:You apparently care about the conservatives and liberal thing alot so you can tell whoever whatever you want. When you don't want to go ahead a talk about issues you claim someone is dancing. What statistics prove where that the conservatives are giving which poor. When you get back to reality and away from your liberal vs conservative world please realize that it is better to help the babies and children not being cared for rather than worrying about ones that might be aborted. Most people that are anti abortion suggest that children should be given up for adoption as if they have parents lined up to take them. |
debosky:Yes it is usually reproducible after being tweaked many times. Most science is just a copy of what has already been done by someone else and changing a little here and there. I've seen what I've said being done by someone that gets huge amounts in grants from many respectable sources including the government. |
Tayo-D:Who are you guys? The poor or the liberal. All I know is that most the people harking and pretending to care about aborted babies don't give two craps about living babies and children. People wailing that universal health care and what not is so that lazy people could free load off the rich. Minorities and women should be paid less than men and all that. Today its abortion tomorrow its something else. Babies are sent home from hospitals without full treatment because their parents can't pay. Lets help those already here and needing help first rather than playing holier than thou. |
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