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The guy who submits the publication has to explain y those experiments were rejected. As i said, it could be calibration errors etc.

Interesting to explain something not their. Submissions for publication are not sent in lab note books therefore I doubt the reviewers get a chance to see individual lab notebooks and rejected experiment

Tayo-D:
@savahana,
So babies born into rich homes don't get shot at at 14 too? What exactly is your point?

Well since you are making this into rich and poor, how many babies born into rich homes are killed compared to those born into poor homes?

bawomolo:
Umm you have to submit averages and deviations. You don't have to submit every result but you have to present your findings in a way anyone who conducts the same experiment would have a similar result.

example if i say the mass of an atom is 1000KG(add or subtract 100KG). If someone does the same experiment and gets 700KG then something is wrong. Yes they have biases but the editors of this journals aren't dummies.

Ummm, so what about the experiments that don't come close to the expected results that are completed rejected during the publication of the paper?

bawomolo:
FALSE, there is a thing called standard deviation. You can't fool anyone with the "best result" if the deviation from the other results are too high. You have to explain why their is a huge difference with the other. whether it be calibration issues or an outside phenomena.

Editors can easily point such anomaly. It's funny how people bash scientific journals when findings don't go their way.

Um you do know you don't have to publish every single result, even if you write down every single experiment meticulously, you still don't have to show everything in a published paper.

Tayo-D:
@savanaha,
I am glad you called it what it is: killing a child! If you are okay with killing a child because of poverty, fine with me.  As long as you and your conscience can live with it.

I have said here that I am in support of the death penalty. That only in the case of a convicted cold-blooded murderer.  Such a life can be taken because it deliberately took a life in cold blood.  According to the justice principle of no cruel and unusaula punishment, every reaction to an action must be comparable. In that sense I have no problem with abortion when the life of the woman is at stake. Anything other than that is unjustified. Life can be exchanged for life. Life cannot be exchanged for money or lack of it!

O.K so when the baby is born and is rejected and ends being shot at 14 or a similar age it alright as long as it was not aborted. Interesting.

m_nwankwo:
Uchenna. Scientists are human beings and they have their bais. But in the long run, even if it takes decades the claims of such biased scientists will be exposed by their peers. Even in top class journals like Science and Nature, look at the number of retractions. I have had my manuscripts rejected by these top journals simply because my finding will pose a serious scientific problem to multibillion vaccine industry. I  also have reviewed manuscripts and recommended them for publication based on scientific merit and yet the editor rejects the recommendation because the paper dig holes in what he has established over 30 years of research. So therir is politics, bias etc in peer review but in the end these papers published for reasons other than scientific merit will soon or later get discredited. So that should not be a worry in the long run. What is probably a greater problem is when an original idea that will make significant contribution to humanity is killed simply because the investigator is not one of the godfathers in his area.

I am loving this!!

Tayo-D:
@savanaha,

There is a way to avoid abortion - don't get pregnant! Is that too much to ask? If you are mature enough to have sex, you should be mature enough to understand its consequences.

Yeah easier said than done! After whats her name. . . preached it (Palin) didn't her daughter get pregnant? So she didn't have an abortion but many people don't have people that will help them through it.
I personally don't agree with all types of abortion like reckless sex resulting in unwanted pregnancy and then abortion but I am not going to hammer down on someone not to kill a child that I cannot take care myself. There are also people that no matter the circumstance disagrees with abortion and that is definitely ridiculous

davidylan:
Uche are you surprised? What about papers where you repeat the EXACT SAME EXPERIMENT and get totally different results? Papers where figures are glaringly patched together especially western blots?

That is 21st century "science" for you. I think the pressures of grants and publications has pushed integrity aside.

Tell them.

Most people fall for this science stuff. Experiments are usually repeated multiple times to get the best result (the one you "hypothesized". And once that is gotten it is published as if. No one publishes results that don't work or what actually happened or how many times it failed or the patch work that had to be done.

Tayo-D:
@TOH,

Understand where I am coming from. Savahana declares that if we really hate abortion then we should be ready to take care of the babies. [/b]The ideology behind that statement is that life is disposable for economic reasons. I don't understand how else to interprete such a statement. Do you?

Yes, take care of children that are already born into a messy world as a start so that people that change their minds about abortion will know their unwanted child has someone where safe rather than being shot later. There are many ways to interpret things and [b]your [/b]interpretation only supports [b]your agenda therefore for you there is no other way of interpreting it.

Tayo-D:
@savanaha,
How clever. Why not ask people in this era of 'personal responsibility' according to Obama, to take responsibility for their actions. If you can't take care of a child, don't have one.  Our experience as humans reveal that we are all subject to the laws of sowing and reaping, cause and effects etc.  If you can't take care of a child, don't have one, otherwise you become a murderer.

And for those of you who care so much for the poor, why not donate 100% of your income to the govt to dole out welfare programmes?  As for adopting orphans, I am quick to point out a staunch pro-lifer in the person of Michelle Bachman.  She is a member of the House representing MN.  She is a proud foster mother of 26. As conservatives, we put our money where our mouths are.  Same cannot be said of the liberals.

I must add that I am shocked by the lack of morality you guys are displaying here. Life to you is disposable for economic reasons. Do you realise that is your stance?

You do understand that people by having an abortion someone realizes that they cannot take care of the child therefore they are aborting it.  And am happy that America has made people divided into two groups of liberal or conservative. Nowhere did I tell you I was either even if you are conservative. All I know is that you mention Michelle Bachman but don't mention yourself, and all other conservatives who have not adopted. If all then people that called themselves pro-lifers adopted like Miss/Ms./Mrs. Bachman then telling someone that doesn't want a child there would be a home for the child would be a bit more convincing.

On your comment about doling out 100% about income, it is interesting that the people you consider "murderers" are atleast willing to help the poor without whining and people that are all about life,  love liberty and God act as it they have never seen the inside of a church. Maybe you so called conservatives realize that human beings are not divided into groups of "liberals" and "conservatives" what you think your preaching might mesh together better with your actual practices.

anwo247:
@Poster

1. No one advocates for 419ers, they stink!

2. U can avoid being a victim with more than 100% possiblility if you are not as guilty/greedy as them.

3. Since you stay in UK, I will like you to take a bold step and send a letter to Swiss govt to kill all their bank officials/bankers holding our looted money which they clearly know is for us: meant for the public hospital,roads,schools,etc and as a result children are dieing, Nigeria has the highest maternal mortality rate, one of lowest paid lecturers etc

4. I dont know who sent you to Uk, your dad or who please call him to a table, if he had added any money more than his salary to his income or has cheated the govt by not paying adequate tax, which is FRAUD, please shoot him, dont listen to any plea. Do that to all your family members, please report the survival ratio in nairaland.

5. ask yourself, if you have ever shortchanged anyone, govt in terms of tax, bills, etc, which you might think is a small fraud, at least you dont want anyone to know about it. you know what? Just hang yourself. Sorry, before you hang yourself, please give us the reason, constructively why you want to kill your fellow fraudsters, because it seems you have been touched,consent is needed for them to thrive

anwo247:
@Thor,

Even though your idea has been very stupid, I still want to give you the benefit of doubt of answering my question.

What's your take on Swiss govt/banks on Nigerian money for so many years now?

Do we send United nation peace-keeping force or peace-keeping killers on recovery mission?

I know you are never objective but still try.

Meanwhile I am yet to receive the report from your family test on fraud indulgence. MUMU

Thank you. Too bad the idiot cannot answer it. Hes living in the Exile ethos. Can't think beyond what BBC puts in front of him

Someone made the comment of the day. All the people crying about abortion being wrong should adopt all the orphans in orphanages. Maybe then it will make sense to the pro-choice people why they should have an unwanted child and give it up for adoption.

Thor:
Yet again you are trying to compare the UK to Nigeria, the current state of Nigeria means you are trying to compare a gold bar encrusted with diamonds to a toilet full of rotting faeces (Nigeria)

Lets at least kill off a few thousand of these 419'ers and bring Nigeria up from it's current toilet rating to bronze or silver 

YOu evidently hate Nigeria and Nigerians and most likely hate yourself. Cry yourself a river, build a bridge and get the hell over it. Until your papa or mama gets everyone a job no one will get the death penalty for 419. Nigeria is not the only country involved in scam. Just cause you don't have the balls to stand up for your self don't come on a forum advocating nonsense. Why don't you do something constructive like getting innovative ideas for jobs rather than looking for someone to be killed. Better yet kill yourself!

kshow1:
The question here is did the woman camped the two men and had sex with the second man just after SEVEN minutes ?
pls i need anwsers.

Sperm can survive a couple of days

Well the blacker the berry the sweeter the juice isn't negative

Thor:
I think we fool ourselves on the extent of this problem. It is a real cancer with thousands and thousands of filthy, good for nothing citizens involved.

The sensible way forward would be to offer a 30 day amnesty to all involved, then after the deadline I would suggest the following:

1st  Offence - Amputation of the right hand
2nd Offence - Amputation of the left foot
3rd  Offence - Death by Hanging

This has to be the fair way forward!

If life in Nigeria worked as wll as it does in Britain where you live then they should be tortured but since 419 is a last result try using your suggestions on the criminals in England.

JosBoy4Lif:
Unless something is drastically done, 419 will continue to flourish @ home.
Nigerian government is too Womanliness to implement such a law. You forget there are many people involved in corrupt activities in Naija.
If they killed all the corrupt people in Nigeria we might be the size of Ghana for real

I don't think the government is afraid to implement a law, I yhink they do worse so it would be the coal calling the kettle black

Niga Lurva:
True talk my brother, but our govt need to tell foreigners whos boss. They can't come here and lord over us, NEVER AGAIN.

They will as soon as they become our government and not a criminal monkies in suites fattening their own pockets with money that should be allocated in moving Nigeria forward

Because we Nigerians worship them. Some of the house boys are probably the children of prominent people who worship white people into sending their children into pseudoslavery

Unless everyone in the government of Nigeria is killed for being crooks and those that fall into the 419 trap because of greed and Bernie Madoff is sentenced to death for his theft since 1992 then no 419 scammers should get death penalty. If all the others are left alive then too should 419 scum who make up a small group of a larger web that people pretend do not exist.

JustGood:
What a shameless woman. . . and she is being treated like celebrity!

If a man was to impregnate 2 women, everyone will roundly condemn him and call for his head.

While I think what she did is wrong for cheating on her fiance, I think that the whole celebrity thing might be accidental fame. She probably agreed to the paternity test because she thought it never crossed her mind that two men could impregnate a woman at the same time. Then now she is getting pair because her dilemma is  medically fascinating. Now if she comes on Maury then . . .

tpiah:
did they make sure the twins are also from the same mother?

When they DNA test they test the mother as well.

queenTG:
this can happen, maybe they made a mistake at the hospital, putting them in their bed  just a small distraction  to change one of twins babies for another one. tha is all mystic no

No it's not mystic, when they did the DNA tests they would have tested the mother. This means that from the results the woman was the mother of both but like they said above she slept with two different men and had two different sperms fertilize two different eggs at the same time. It has happened before and the result was girls.

$osisi:
Ask me about my first time in Lagos sef
We travelled by air from Enugu airport
I thought my intestines were going to jump out from my mouth when the plane would drop or gain altitude.
Then we got to Lagos, and we went to the Federal Palace hotel.
I was terrified of the elevators.I thought I was going to die.
Then my first time abroad,we travelled to London and when we got off the airplane it was time to take the escalators down.
I almost passed out
I refused to get on it
Everyone was encouraging me to step on, even strangers, I was terrified of the "moving staircase" I was imagining the thing carrying me and throwing me down.

I remember the first time my family left Nigeria and the funny thing is that the reactions you describe here is the behaviors of my mother. Hahaha

My hair is natural and I can do it more styles than when it was permed. I had my hair in an afro yesterday when I went out with my friends and it was off the hook. Well my hair is too long to have it in full afro but it was so cool.

Her stuff is actually pretty good and different.

cabage:
@ dis guy, u av got know right to judge me because u dont know jack about me! so whats your stress moreso the opportuinty will help my child in future

There is no opportunity in Ukraine. . . if you are so desperate to leave Nigeria for somewhere as bad then don't have a child or wait and have then in Nigeria instead of shipping the child back to Nigeria like a  parcel via Fedex.

Here is what Africans, Asians and Jews face in Ukraine: http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/racism-on-the-rise-in-ukraine-20080710



Racism on the rise in Ukraine

10 July 2008
Four foreigners have been murdered in Kyiv so far this year because of the colour of their skin, according to a new Amnesty International report.

The report Ukraine: Government must act to stop racial discrimination, highlights an alarming increase in attacks on foreigners and members of ethnic and religious minorities in Ukraine.

The report, launched on Thursday (10 July), also documents how the Ukrainian authorities are failing their international and domestic obligations to ensure the right not to be discriminated against for all who live in the country.

According to non-governmental organizations, there were 60 racist attacks in Ukraine in 2007. Six of these resulted in the death of the victims. So far this year, there have been over 30 racist incidents. Four were murders.

The majority of victims have been of African or Asian origin. Prejudice and violent attacks against Jews and Jewish properties also continue, while members of certain Roma communities have been fingerprinted and photographed by police apparently because of their ethnic identity.

Yet despite the racist attacks and police racial profiling the authorities are reluctant to acknowledge the existence of intolerance and racial discrimination in Ukrainian society.

Often the police fail to react with the required urgency to calls for help from victims of racist attacks. Sometimes they refuse to act at all. When arrested, perpetrators of racist attacks are labelled “hooligans” and legislation targeting racist crime is rarely applied.

“It is disturbing that the Ukrainian authorities fail to acknowledge the existence of racism in all its manifestations,” said Nicola Duckworth, Europe and Central Asia Programme Director at Amnesty International. “Such failure can only lead to a rise of racist attacks and impunity for the perpetrators.”

Daniel Osaemor, a Nigerian market trader, was attacked by a group of youths on 19 February 2008 as he left a supermarket in Kyiv. They were reported to have surrounded him and stabbed him in the chest.

obyann:
I'll tell him to stop cheating his wife. This is not a matter of full grown adult or not. what if he's drunk and head to the middle of express road to lie down? You'll allow him abi?

Well according to some here without balls they wouldn't tell him his heading to the middle of an express road to lie down because its an unwritten men boys code.

Like these too

Okija_juju:
Dont hate the player dear, its just what it is.

In all my life, I am yet to hear a guy say to another guy "Oboy no carry that babe o!, if Karo hear am or catch you, she go vex". No not once.
So I guess it must be part of the unwritten law.
I have seen my girl friends boyfriends cheat on them in front of me, just cos they know I will not tattle.

This is one of those situations were right is wrong and wrong is right. _{(get my drift?)}

I have had guys with balls almost fight other guys for cheating on other girls. But I guess when you are afraid of another person it is justified by calling it tattling.

Okija_juju:
The rules of engagement still hasnt changed.

"Dont concern yourself with shit that aint none of your business".


If I were out with the boys and my best friend is about to cheat on his wife with some lady, I would simply hand him a condom with a note on it saying "Dont get caught buddie".

I dont know bout girls, but boys will rarely disuade a fellow boy from cheating on their spouses. It part of the unwritten rule, somewhere close to the "dont rat" rule.

Thats how StIs and STDs spread but I guess the spread of diseases come with the unwritten rule in the "don't snitch code" that guys are born with. Girls have our own girl version but it is usually practiced by those of low moral fiber.

fayahsoul:
OMG. . .How is the Goddess doing this blessed day?

Am well!! How are you?

I have had conversations with many people about this but I realize that people, especially Nigerians grown in England have the mentality that Nigeria would be better if the white man ruled. Its sad that they have made us hate ourselves to this extent.