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EyeHateGod:
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

I know U Are gonna try to escape this intelligently So I'll ask U a Question If I Tell U tat am Gonna come up Ur Wife What Do I Mean??

It doesn't matter the man wasn't available when they wanted to stone that woman to death b4 Jesus saved her


I explained this up there!
That he wanted to but the angel come to him and to him he shouldnt bother meaning he didn't kept it private!

winner01:
you get time.

EyeHateGod:
Why wasnt mary stoned to Death According to the Bible?
In the gospel(good news) we have God in form of the holy spirit coming down from heaven to sleep with mary.(ahem i heard she was 12)

My question to the Christians is Why wasnt mary stoned to death according to the law? lemme bring some instance:
Deu 22:23 If a damsel [that is] a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
Deu 22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, [being] in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

Now i dont wanna here excuse like ]It was kept secrete and nobody knew[ Then how did the story get into the gospel?? it must be a story known by all.
Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 1:19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just [man], and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, [u]fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

joseph here wanted to hid her but the angle said he shouldnt but he should go ahed and marry her!! Now this is not about Joseph mary or the angels this is about the people in the community! Why didnt they Stone her to death. we also have this situation:

Joh 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
Joh 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Joh 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
Joh 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with [his] finger wrote on the ground, [as though he heard them not].
Joh 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Joh 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
Joh 8:9 And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
Joh 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
Joh 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.[/b]

Now we see in this passage that this woman was nearly stoned to death, but was saved by Jesus. But who saved mary??

anukulapo:
This is a scene from the meeting of the prophet Elijah and the widow of Zarephath.

And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.

This sounds simple because we are reading it. How would this be taken if it happens to you? How would you justify the request? Given that you don't know the out come.

A pastor walks up to you and says "attend to mine first from the little that you have..."

Boomboost:
I've never really understood this portion...How about praying loudly in a face me I face you apartment. When should we pray considering other people sleeping?

kobosmalls:
Are you for or against?
Honestly I have no intentions of arguing this with anyone.
Its as stupid as a kid telling you that he's a helicopter and ur response is "hey good for you kid".
Christians are similar to those kids.
Imagine an adult believing that a sort of food called manna once fell from heaven ad that a man turned water into wine and was equally born without sex.
Where do I even begin .
Religion is just plain stupidity.

kobosmalls:
Exodus 24:9-11New International Version (NIV)

9 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank.

Compare.....
◄ 1 Timothy 6:16 ►
New International Version
who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen

God being all invisible and a spirit, which one do we consider right here?

Vendoor:
The Bible God of Old Testament often command israelites his people to destroy their neighbors (Moabites, Philistines, e.t.c). Thus sayest thy Lord to the King through The prophet. Then, hundreds of Thousands of armies match into the battle field with heavy losses from both side. Sometimes, the israel God fortify his own with extra power to destroy their Neighbors. The reason because they are unbelievers and offcause, some other hidden motives.

The New Testament on the other hand suggest that God want us to love our neighbors just as we love ourselves, Thus a God of peace and love, not war.

And the act of killing must be avoided at all course. Well, the bringer of the second message was brutally murder because his words did not align with God of the Old Testament. Thus, his message became a threat to the existing priestly and prophetic ordinances of israel.

Blending these two Gods together was the biggest blonder made by early christians and you trying to classify both as one today will be the most illogical conclusion you will ever arrived.


Just try it, I'm waiting!

Gombs:
[size=18pt]We’re Children Of The Covenant [/size]

Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed (Acts 3:25).

One Bible character that’s been very popular and important through the ages is Abraham. What made him so relevant in God’s scheme of things? It’s the covenant God made with him. Abraham was God’s covenant friend. Now, I know there’re Christians who say they have a covenant with God. No, you don’t have any covenant with God. Abraham had a covenant with God, [size=18pt][b]but we’re not in that covenant.[/size] Who are we?

We’re the seed of Abraham: “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:26-29).

As Abraham’s seed, we’re the children of the covenant that God had with him. This is really amazing! Let me illustrate further. Imagine a husband and his wife in a marriage covenant. Would their child or children be part of their covenant? Absolutely not! Their child would be the product of the covenant.

Books have been written about our covenant with God, but really, we’re not in covenant with God. The danger of this misleading teaching is that while praying and trying to get results on the basis that you’re in covenant with God, you’re merely trying to get what you already have. And you’ll never get it that way. There’re things people pray and struggle for that shouldn’t be, if only they knew who they are, and their positioning in Christ. We’re [size=18pt]children[/size] of the covenant!

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/53#48349122

DeSepiero:
Seriously??, I am really surprised to see this.

Ever heard of the following phrases?
Tropic of cancer
Tropic of Capricorn
Equator
Climate and seasons?

SirWere:
What then; will you have to say; about the yoruba belief that Olodumare moulded everybody. And when the furnace was hot, they were dark. When it was cool, they were light.
Bear in mind, this "theory" had been in play thousands of years before they met Europeans. Will you call it false

SirWere:
Ahh, so sire, the theory that man was moulded from mud is less........mythical sire? And yes, melanin is the body's response to the sun; a literal glowing ball of fire.

The theory says that Olodumare used Clay. Clay does not change colour even in the kiln (furnace)

My point, sire is that everyone can claim to have competing theories on the origin of Man and each will have their own way of explaining anomalies.

The most sensible thing to do then, you would agree, is to pick each one and scrutinize it without sentiment. To literally attack the doctrine and see if it withstands the test. To place it in a crucible and see if it stands or shatters, hmm??

The Genesis creation story has been called, by kind words, a figurative description; by hard words, a myth and mere fable. Rare is the person that will try to explain this facts without running into headlong perplexites. It has gotten to the level that different people even have different ideologies about it.

Young earth Creationism
Old earth Creationism
Progressive creationism

errr........ Those were the three I could think of.

The more "logical" ( I put logical in quote because it seems to me, that Nairalanders use this words without understanding its meaning) of Christians try to balance up their faith and the fact through Theistic Evolution. There you will find a lot, a whole lot of mordern christian Scientists and brilliant ones as well.



What am I trying to say? Evolution is the generally accepted consensus. Creationism has been examined; and has fallen flat on its ass.

4kings:
Jesus quoted the book more than 7times, check mat5:5- Enoch5:7&6:9, John5:22-Enoch69:27, mat26:24-Enoch38:2. Pls google d rest!, note that the book was in existence b4 jesus birth and the bible said jesus read scriptures.

Nope, the Jews(Judaism sect) have not rejected this book and some other apocryphas. This book was rejected in the council of nicea, by ur early church fathers.

Seriously, how does this explanation dispute my point


How do YOU distinguish an inspired book from one not inspired?

honourhim:
Ok bro.

Here are more biblical verses concerning God's foreknowledge and predestination that i recently came across.

Acts 15;18

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Acts 2;22, 23

22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

23 Him, [b]being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

4kings:
Google it.

But this prophecies were not written in another book. Besides, in those days of aloof cities and people, don't u think the person would have been easily caught considering the prophecies being well known.

Gosh, this is simply proof that he got the info from the Book, that existed before he was born.

Huh?, he just picked out an info from the book.

Pls, let's not deviate, my unanswered question still stands.

SirWere:
What then; will you have to say; about the yoruba belief that Olodumare moulded everybody. And when the furnace was hot, they were dark. When it was cool, they were light.

Bear in mind, this "theory" had been in play thousands of years before they met Europeans. Will you call it false

4kings:
Well I've read more than half of the book of Enoch and some points listed here are taken out of context; Lucifer was hardly mentioned, and I think that addresses the case of Job, Azazel was like a leader of the fallen angels on earth, and not the first of the fallen, he met with Enoch most of the time, but never really talked about the fall, he was just more powerful and Noah's flood was predicted.
I don't want to go any further to argue about the veracity of the book of Enoch.( Mind u Jesus, Jude and Paul quoted that book )
I just asked how do u distinguish an inspired book from one that is not inspired?, writers could have easily come together to make things correlate, in order to gain control, Just like Eusebius was the first person to quote a forged paragraph, in order to gain control.

4kings:
How do u distinguish in this context, a literary work from an inspired one?

abduljabbar4:
So if I tell you that it is wrong to lie, you must ask me where I quoted it from? Really?

Hitler [b]said that he is following the commandments of his God[/b]and I have quoted where your God said you should kill.

abduljabbar4:
Don't mind him. He thinks we toddlers


Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or
daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest
friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and
worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor
your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples
around you, whether near or far, from one end of
the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or
listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare
them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put
them to death. Your hand must be the first in
putting them to death, and then the hands of all
the people. 10 Stone them to death, because
they tried to turn you away from the Lord your
God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the
land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be
afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil
thing again.

abduljabbar4:
“I believe today that I am acting in the
sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am
fighting for the Lord’s work.”
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

abduljabbar4:
Don't mind him. He thinks we toddlers


Deuteronomy 13:
6 If your very own brother, or your son or
daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest
friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and
worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor
your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples
around you, whether near or far, from one end of
the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or
listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare
them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put
them to death. Your hand must be the first in
putting them to death, and then the hands of all
the people. 10 Stone them to death, because
they tried to turn you away from the Lord your
God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the
land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be
afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil
thing again.

abduljabbar4:
“I believe today that I am acting in the
sense of the Almighty
Creator. By warding off the Jews I am
fighting for the Lord’s work.”
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]

abduljabbar4:
I can provide themn for you and secondly, he emulated Moses and David who fought in wars and killed many people!

abduljabbar4:
Pastor Adolf Hitler is more christian than most Christians because he has followed the commandments of yahweh and Jesus. Thank God he said it himself

AnonyNymous:
They were supposedly created at where we now refer to as Mesopmotamia, which is in Iraq/Turkey, closer to Europe. So it has been assumed in the majority of Christian artist depictions that they were Caucasians. I cannot explicitly state whatever race they supposedly were, but the fact remains that one race cannot magically give birth to another. YEARS of evolution based on environmental conditions are what caused the races of today

AnonyNymous:
Never has it been recorded that a Caucasian couple gave birth to a Mongoloid/Negro baby.

OLAADEGBU:
Thank you my brother and may God richly bless you.

Muafrika2:
Isn't that the same person?

Science has been allowed to get away with unreasonableness and lies in the name of theories, peer reviewed studies etc. Christians have known that those bones were not human for decades. But the scientific community was just so intent on establishing it's evolution theory, they willfully looked the other way.

cloudgoddess:
No I wouldn't.

Evolution is ongoing, man is not the "height", there is no "height" as the conditions for fitness are dependent on the specific environment of an organism.

As long as the environment changes, which is constantly occuring, and populations are reproducing, which is also always happening, then evolution - the change in heritable traits across generations - is happening. Every time a baby is born, a plant is sprouted, or a bacterial colony multiplies, with a different set of genetic information than it's parentals, evolution has occured.

4kings:
The book of Susanna gave a story of two elders, to buttress that point, but I don't wanna go any further.
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Scholars agree that the synoptic gospels were not written by eye witnesses(the disciples), but from a common source.
But this gospels, are still in the bible, since it propagated the existence of christ, isn't this proof of cherrypicking done by the early church fathers.