₦airaland Forum

fergie001:

I don’t pity him at all. How can he assemble 5,000 people inside a stadium for election. Can he assemble them also for general election. Obaseki’s advisers needs beating.

OP didn’t know that there are about 3 different cases in the court and those cases arises from the congress conducted in the State PDP. As at now there factions in Edo PDP the question is which faction will submit the candidates list to INEC. PDP is not ready for this election in Edo.

At first Obeseki goofed with that Gazzette. The election is a constitutional matter and theexecutive gazzette can’t over ride the constitution.
Now which security agency will make sure that his Gazzetted order is carried out?
This shows that Obaseki has lost this battle already and he should remember that after his tenure expired. They will come hard for him.

It’s now glaring that Obaseki is going down. Who advised him not to inaugurate those 14 members in the first place? Can those 14 members forgive and forget what happened knowing fully well that Obaseki is doing this to get the 2nd term ticket. And he will come out hard on all of them.
He lost this battle already.

fergie001:
I only attacked the reason you gave, not you. Why should I attack you?
You didn't offend me nah.
Your passion on the subject matter against Obaseki is on every thread opened for this purpose. Will you then say you aren't biased?
I can excuse you however, if you are an APC member and an electorate there. Its within your rights.


.....So what happened in Zamfara?
Were Yari and Oshiomhole in different parties?
Did Yari not fight him head-on with the popular "if they born his father and mother well,....."(in reference to Oshiomhole).

Don't take it to heart....I mean no harm.
Let them fight ON.

Bro no offense taken. We are just trying to discuss and enlighten ourselves.

fergie001:
Oga...you have been running thread to thread attacking Obaseki.

He messed up by refusing to play ball. If Oshiomhole hasn't messed up by attacking the Anenihs and co. that brought him to power....Will Edo be this free today?

Why did the same Oshiomhole not wait for second term before fighting the Anenihs and Igbenedions?

Why did Oshiomhole not wait for second term before removing the roof of the EDHA and relocating the HoA to his parlour?

The Court has ruled many times before now, even as close as December when 33 political parties told the Court to stop INEC from delisting them.
The Court said you cannot challenge an intent in Court.

Now, show us the certificate in question?
The one he submitted yesterday, not the one he used 4 years ago?

Put it here.

Una go just think say everybody na Ozuor.

The last time I checked this is a public forum, and you accusing me of jumping from thread to thread to attack Obaseki shows that you are biased.
Oshiomhole was able to fight Anenih because they’re not in the same party.
Obaseki didn’t think it through by fighting a Sitting National Chairman of his party when he knows that the same NWC headed by that man will organize and submit the name of the party flag bearer for the election.
This is a simple logic.

We told them that most of those with Obaseki will start decamping few days to the primary election. But they called us names.

fergie001:
Dead case.

This is Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution as ammended;

The court is not against Obaseki as the Governor, this is challenging his nomination for contesting for a party ticket. This may swing in Favour of his enemies. Obaseki really messed up. He should have wait till his second term before flexing his muscle. Ganduje waited till he won the second term before dealing with SLS.

The Benz or nothing group will soon show up with their anthem.

You didn’t manage the crises well in your state. Your advisers need to be betel at the market square. The forces against you are more than one person you’re shouting his name. You realized your mistakes too late.

Why can’t Obaseki submit his form at the Edo state APC secretariat if we want to go by his claim that only the state Exco can organize/decide the primary mode.
I like him as a person but he didn’t manage the crises within his party well and as it stands now the party can’t safe him.

bolaayenimo:
Oshiomhole is the chairman of the committee

No. The primary election committee have not been selected yet. It will be chaired by a state Governor.

Eddie18:
what about the national chairman ,who is also in one faction,who happens to be the referee that will call the results of them both.is he not going to be biased, and favour his faction.be rational and not myopic.

There will be an electoral committee and the chairman is not part of that committee it will consist of APC Governors and other stakeholders. The election will have INEC in attendance

wink2015:
IT IS THE SAME EDO STATE APC THAT STILL HAS POWER TO DECIDE THE KIND OF PRIMARY THEY WANT.

Not Abuja leaders.

Before you say this try and read Article 13 of APC Constitution and you will know that NWC is bested with the power to organize the Governorship primary.

moderatedguy:
Obaseki is going to conduct his own primaries.Edo is going the way of Zamfara.If Oshiomhole don't want Obaseki to go for 2nd term nobody wud go under APC

All your comments shows that you’re not ready to learn aside what you read online. The reason why APC lost Zamfara is because the 2 state factions organized their indirect primaries separately. And the NWC has avoid what happened in Zamfara by going for Direct Primary so that all party members irrespective of the faction they belong to will participate in choosing the party flag bearer. Try and study the case of Ogun and Imo where their Governors organizes their own tomatoes against the decision of the NWC and INEC/Court didn’t recognize them. Obaseki knows that he is gone and that’s the reason he has been running to Lagos and Abuja to beg people to please on his behalf for soft landing but as it is now nothing can safe him.

moderatedguy:
What he meant was Indirect can be easily monitored unlike Direct primary.....the crowd wud be too much everywhere would be so rowdy.

So will the election also be indirect because of crowd controlling? Direct primary is a true definition of democracy. Why is Obaseki scared of facing the whole APC members to choose the person to represent the party.

moderatedguy:
Where is it written in APC constitution.For I know that state chapters choose their own mode of Primaries and communicate same to NWC who then tables it at the NEC meeting for ratification.NWC has no say in the mode of Primaries.

Google the APC Constitution. Article 13v says the NWC shall organize the primary for the position of President, Governor and National Assembly seats.
The Edo APC chairman and Obaseki are just trying to play the victim card.

Karemarealty288:
From the looks of things actually Obaseki has significant number of the state party machineries on his side and external alliances...while Ambode had no one even down to cleaners expert few his Epe people...Obaseki has guts and knows how to use his powers which also put him to advantage.

Obaseki has People who are not grass-root politicians. Those that can’t even win LGA election on their own and Obaseki has come to realize this in the last 1 month and that’s the reason he is running from Lagos to Abuja to beg those that have say in the party.
On the day of the primary election I can assure you that Obaseki will lost before 12pm because the forces against him are more than those with him. Also know that some of his loyalist will jump ship once it’s few days to the primary election, that’s if the election committee from Abuja did not disqualify him before the day of the election proper. Nigerian Politics is a dirty game and it’s meant for the shameless only.

bolaayenimo:
Indirect primary everybody will vote and counted immediately. Direct they will just declare fake results anyhow like they did In Ogun and Imo

You got it wrong. Indirect primary is where a candidate will dictate the outcome of the election.
Direct primary is where all the registered party members line up behind their preferred candidate. This is done ward by ward.

There are 2 factions in Edo APC. The best way to go is Direct Primary. Even if the faction loyal to the Governor notified the NWC. It is the responsibility of the NWC to approve or choose another mode of primary. Let all of the factions participate in the Direct primary and let all the party members partake in the process of choosing the party flag bearer.

Kings2244:
Bello never left APC, remember he came second AR the primary election

Bello Decamped from APc after the elecion.

TonyeBarcanista:
Bello has been a member of APC through CPC LOL

Bello left APC after the primary that produced late Abubakar. Bello was a registered PDP member until Abubakar’s death.

Ussycool:
Ahaan! Then what are there criteria?

They’re elected through Electoral College. Hilary Clinton won the Popular votes in 2016 but Donald Trump won the electoral college.

new2012:
My mistake, it was Labour party I wanted to say.. He was initially in Labour party, was a nobody in politics in that state at that time, the PDP destroyed and Mann the entire state

ACP made him their candidate coz of his potentials and their alignment with Labour party. He was first in Labour Party.. Even the ACP had no confidence whatsoever they can win.. PDP had multiple candidates dragging and fighting the case after d elections, until the courts gave it to Oshiomole.

He aligned with all the godfathers of the state, beg them, paid them and when he could revolted and damned them. That's just a cycle reoccurring with Obaseki.
Whoever wins, will still revolt from under him, its same measure he gave out.

He was also not in Labour Party. Instead He was the President of NLC.

new2012:
Its a matter of war chest ooo.

At the end of the day, both candidates are either getting imposed or imposing themselves on the masses.

So its abt who has more.. Obaseki is scared Oshiomole, can influence more people, can pay more people, promise more people FG gifts while he-obaseki can pay less people.

What's more important is that all thru the permutation and combinations, nobody is really considering the citizen they want to lead.

Equally, the citizenry don't even know their power, they can refuse to vote and illegitmize the whole process or even vote one random party to make a point like they voted for Oshiomole then who worn from NCP who literarily at that time outperform his predecessors although later joined the bandwagon.

Realistically the people are the major problem, not just the politicians.

Oshiomhole did not contest under NCP. He won his first term under AC. Action Congress.

By now I expect to be hearing about Obaseki’s achievements in the last 4 years as Governor of Edo. If He has really performed as he claimed last week on Channels TV.
Obaseki and his online supporters claimed that Oshiomhole wanted to be the God father in Edo. This same Obaseki is the one running around now to look for God fathers that will impose him on Edo APC. Direct Primary is the best way of choosing a party flag bearer. Let us learn the good practice from USA.

slivertongue:
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its called courtesy.

[/b]obaseki can lose the primaries and still go ahead to become governor[/b]

Are you in this country? Obaseki himself knows that He won't come second if He contest under another party and that's the reason He is now going back to his vomit. this is not the General election period, All the arsenal of APC will be deploy to Edo because that's the only state holding election that day.

Obaseki and the other Governors just went to Lagos to pay homage. Now Obaseki will realize that those he called names in public are ready to cut him to pieces. Let all candidates go for popularity test and the peoples choice be the winner.
I hope other elected politicians will learn from Ambode and Obaseki, don’t say what will those that helped you power will do when you still need their support.

Blackmann001:
How did he tackle obj u were told

When OBJ/PDP made agreement with Afenifere to vote him for second term only Tinubu stood his ground against it and after the election PDP won 5 states in the west but AD/Tinubu won only Lagos state. After then Tinubu created 37 LGAs more in the state for governance to be closer to the people and OBJ stopped the LGA allocation coming to Lagos for almost 4 years even when the court ask him to release the funds.
Today the reason Afenifere is always against Tinubu is because immediately PDP gained access to 5 states in the west, they did all they can to have Tinubu back and He told them that they can come together if they can bring back the 5 States AD lost due to their greed. During this period Tinubu left AD to start AC and gradually the party started gaining ground in the west, later he merged with other parties to form ACN and now APC. [b] Tinubu May be the most corrupt politician from the west [b] but he is more relevant in politics than OBJ in the west. Anytime any day.

Maliqcious:
Tinubu is a great political mastermind.. But what most political analysis don't know is that Oshiomole is asset to the south south and north.. Believe it or not Tinubu need Oshiomole just like Oshiomole needs him in Edo. Less you forget.. Saraki was the reason Tinubu was not paired with Buhari and Oyegun who was Tinubu Close ally couldnt assist in making Falae to be the governor of Kogi though Dino Melaye is part of Yaya Bello victory.. What did Tinubu do? He oust them all.. Now the Ousted all know their archenemy believe Me.. Tinubu can never win 2023.. June12 might repeat itself.(1) Tinubu can't win in the east unlike M.K.O Tinubu won't win in most S.S .. In North would not get 30% so what's the point people believing Tinubu.. To be frank if Tinubu be the A.p.c aspirant come 2023 it a workover for PDP even with Atiku or Saraki

Tinubu is not contesting for 2023 Presidential election. He will bring someone from the SW. bookmark this page.

From now till 22 of June, we are expecting to see more of post like this. But the final say is with the party members that will vote during the primary and majority of them are not on social media.

Great2017:
Point of correction, OBJ never said Atiku was the best for Nigeria. [b]Rather, he said Atiku was better than Buhari. Is Atiku not better?[b]

Is this not double standing?
OBJ that called Atiku all sort of names turn back to tell you that Atiku is better and you believed him.
But you don’t want to believe Oshiomhole that also turn back to say Ize-Iyamu is better than Obaseki?