jpphilips:


Im not interested in what you know about democracy, card reader will not be sacrosanct in Nigeria as electronic voting is not sacrosanct anywhere in the world, if you don't like the idea, please hug the nearest transformer.

Your last paragraph shows your level of reasoning while home and dry...

Nice that you've been schooled on process of election in those countries you admire their type of democracy

As long as those states in the U.S didnt use incidence report, we also must work towards it than doing the old way and seeking new result.
Cheers

jpphilips:
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Im certain you know the "I" in Inec means independent so what is wrong with an independent agency exercising discretion to ensure voters are not disenfranchised?





What the court does is not the buisness of Inec.



Not Inec's problem, the Judiciary should get its act together.




Inec's independence requires it exercises some level of discretion, if the card reader fails like every other electronics does even in advanced democracies, what next? We pack up and wait for a re-run? Really? For a 245b naira election? Im sure you know that the voting machines in Georgia failed during the mid term elections, what did the sane people of the US do? Call for re-run or use manual counting?



Court Judgement is not Inec's buisness, ive said that already.

The independence of INEC must be seen to be fair to all and not a particular section ..

We've seen same INEC you want to project as been independent helping political parties rig election..

The judgements of court has a large direct impact on how INEC conduct the election
More reasons they are joined as a party in the suits and equally have their lawyers who will prove to the court why certain elections should not be annulled.

jpphilips:


Advanced democracies have my type of reasoning, are you better than them?
In the just concluded mid term elections in the US, voting machines failed in Georgia, Alabama, Illinois, Arizona, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, New jersey, New york, Nevada, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South carolina what did they do?

Make voting machines sacrosanct or use discretion?
Face your business you know very little how democracy works.

I am sure in those states you mentioned
They made use of incidence report and allowed manual voting

Sadly.. You want to be like them but you don't want to practice what gave them such feats

Its better you allow the institutions to be strengthen than your usual promotions of shortcuts to success


I can see how you know enough about democracy

jpphilips:


Are you saying what you know or what you think? Every electoral act is an ammendment of a previous one, the present one Buhari has refused to sign is equally an ammendment of the 2015 Ammendment, that happens to be the an ammendment from 2010.
So what difference does it make?

Buhari should contest with the electoral act that brought him to power, first, some non-living things said not signing means no use of card reader, today, seems you managed to read it reason you are complaining its useage is at Inec's discretion, Inec has said they will use it so what are you foaming in the mouth for?
Dont you guys have better things to do with your time?

Are you aware that none of the existing electoral act does not make card reader compulsory..
It only gave INEC the discretion to apply it where necessary..

This led to courts giving conflicting judgements on same card reader..

In river state, supreme court said card reader is unknown to law while it upturn another election for not using card reader..

The electoral bill buhari refused to sign is now taking care of that gap by making card reader compulsory and not an INEC discretion

It's also making it a law and not an option to avert varying judgments as witnessed in last election

jpphilips:


Are you saying what you know or what you think? Every electoral act is an ammendment of a previous one, the present one Buhari has refused to sign is equally an ammendment of the 2015 Ammendment, that happens to be the an ammendment from 2010.
So what difference does it make?

Buhari should contest with the electoral act that brought him to power, first, some non-living things said not signing means no use of card reader, today, seems you managed to read it reason you are complaining its useage is at Inec's discretion, Inec has said they will use it so what are you foaming in the mouth for?
Dont you guys have better things to do with your time?

Are you aware that none of the existing electoral act does not make card reader compulsory..
It only gave INEC the discretion to apply it where necessary..

This led to courts giving conflicting judgements on same card reader..

In river state, supreme court said card reader is unknown to law while it upturn another election for not using card reader..

The electoral bill buhari refused to sign is now taking care of that gap by making card reader compulsory and not an INEC discretion

It's also making it a law and not an opt option to avert varying judgments as witnessed in last election

jpphilips:



What is expected of a jobless youth is get something doing and stay away from social media. You don't change the goal post in the middle of the game, you are not contesting the election, the so called ammendment is making card readers manadatory with no alternative when the country is at war at different fronts with citizens displaced far away from their homes and wards.



If it was in 2016 when the Niger delta was at war a northern president signed that, wont you complain the south has been disenfranchised?
Card readers will be used, however, if it fails, there should be an alternative, if you can't contest under the circumstances, then stay at home, to rule Nigeria is not by force.

If every developed nations have your type of reasoning .. They won't be where they are..
You want to be like them but not ready to do what made them improve thier process and institution


What should bother you is how we continue to do Same old things and want new results

Reasons why care reader should be backed by law is to avert conflicting judgment that were witnessed after 2015 elections where court A nullified an election cos card reader was not used and court B upheld an election despite card reader not being used

They claim card reader is unknown to law

That's the gap this new electoral law intend to bridge by making it a law and compulsory to avoid conflicting court judgements

jpphilips:


So you haven't heard of 2015 electoral act before?

We are saying same thing

The act signed in 2015 was the 2010 amended electoral bill

What happened to their PVC ...


They just want to create tension in the state before and during election so that election will be postponed and rerun will be conducted for federal might with use of security agents to be unleashed in the state..

Akpabio needs to prove to the federal govt that he can deliver his state by any means

kemicalreaction:
Apc in 2010

Are you high

Where was APC mentioned in 2011

Use your glasses
It's dark

rexwalters:
From what I am made to believe from your write up,jonathan signed into law this garbage act in 2015?then went to the polling station the next week and was complaining finger print and card reader did not work in his hometown of otuoke,who is to blame?INEC or apc?then why is pdp complaining if it was sustainable then,how much has changed since?what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.

If GEJ did not sign that card reader should be use.
You and I know that the rigging by either parties will be much
The card reader curtailed those excesses

The card reader was newly introduced hence some of the skirmishes that were noticed


What is expected of a serious gov't is to strengthen the institution and the process and that's what the new electoral act wanted to take care of but PMB seems to be afraid of new changes

dalongjnr:

Never lie in a public forum. which 2010 amended electoral act was signed 2 days to election? If so,you mean the card readers where also imported from China 2 days to the election as well? man, electronic voting is not well captured in the act. don't forget too soon that the matter was taken to court. anyway, do ur research very well before assuming the truth.

I will advice that you do your research very well

Card reader was in the making but was not taken care of in the electoral act

It was the amended 2010 electoral act that was signed in 2015 that took cognisance of its usage however it gave INEC discretion to use it wherever they deem it possible and should it fail, they were allow to use incidence form
This new act now wants to make use of card reader compulsory and not an option

jpphilips:


Buhari won with the 2015 electoral act not 2010, it is more silly to think the 2015 electoral act was signed 2 days to the election.
Who will provide the infrastructure for INEC to transmit results in real time? what is INEC'S current budget?
If you dont think such law will amount to changing the goal post in the middle of the game, then, Atiku should use the same Lacuna/loopholes to win.

The law GEJ signed was the amended 2010 electoral law
Go and do your findings

This new law buhari is afraid to sign does not have anything to do with the budget of INEC and it's not about changing goal post

It's about strengthening our electoral process..

That's essence of governance

docadams:


Can you substantie all what you typed or you just chose to embark on a tales by moonlight voyage?

You are free to puncture any where you feel its not true

BluntBoy:


APC in 2011

Some fools would come across your post and start masturbating over it without bothering to read thoroughly.

As for you, why do you do all these things? It is understandable if you hate Buhari. We can't expect everyone to like him. But please, stop peddling falsehood.

Take your time to read my post
There was no where 2011 was mentioned for APC

I made it clear that GEJ signed the amended 2010 electoral bill into law 2 days to the election of 2015

It's on record that GEJ signed the amended 2010 electoral act into law 2 days to the election which gave a go ahead for INEC to make use of card reader..

Same APC urged GEJ to sign it then and accused him of being afraid of card reader introduction which gave INEC the discretion to use card reader

They later applauded the process after buhari won the election

Btw 2 days and 66 days, which is closer to election

From the onset, PMB have been sceptical about signing the new electoral bill that will strengthen the electoral process

He kept rejecting it with flimsy excuses from sequences of election to this latest one


The new electoral bill if signed will strengthen the electoral process and make card reader mandatory and not optional
It will remove the Lacuna faced by the court where varying judgements were given on use of card reader

While some courts nullified elections cos card reader was not used, others upheld it despite non use of card reader.. E.G is the rivers election


Secondly, the new act would have help to match accredited voters with votes as no incidence paper will be allowed .
It would have eased the transmission of result immediately than collating from wards to LG to state to Federal which will give room for manipulation of already counted votes

The idea of waiting for one results from kano or rivers while results are collated will be eliminated

The idea of using results from one state to increase the votes of another candidate or party will be eliminated as all votes will be transmitted simultaneously..

Refusal to sign means someone is afraid and wants to make use of these loopholes

Moreso, the electoral bill is applicable to all political parties.. The president ought to have consulted other political parties to get their inputs before rescinding..

This was same process GEJ did before signing the bill into an act ...

As it is now, pmb is having no inputs in strengthening the institution of the electoral process..

stephenduru:
Read more. http://www.trezzyhelm.com/2018/12/aregbesola-leads-apc-reconciliation.html

While other political parties are on the field selling their policies and convincing the people via vigorous campaigns..
APC is still inaugurating committee on reconciliation..

This is what you get when you have q parrot as chairman and the leader of the party not in firm control



They are like students who are still looking for which textbooks to read while others are busy reading for their exams

uniosunconnect:


The Minister of Communication, Adebayo Shittu, has threatened to work against the governorship candidate of the All Progressives Congress in Oyo State, Adebayo Adelabu, at the February elections.

Shittu who lost in the race for the governorship ticket said without restitution, there won’t be peace in the APC.

The National Working Committee of the APC had raised the Peace and Reconciliation Committee for each of the six geopolitical zones to reconcile aggrieved members ahead of the general elections.

The minister joins the list of Governor Ibikunle Amosun (Ogun) and his counterpart in Imo, Rochas Okorocha, who had threatened to work against the party’s governorship candidates in their states.

Speaking during a media chat in Abuja, Shittu accused the APC National Chairman, Adams Oshiomhole and Oyo Governor, Abiola Ajimobi, of being the brains behind his exclusion from the party’s primaries.

https://all-gists..com/2018/12/apc-ll-pay-dearly-for-blocking-me-in-oyo-shittu.html

Let the wailing continue..

MediahelmNGR:


Source: https://www.mediahelm.com.ng/2018/12/abacha-loot-buhari-thanks-swiss-govt.html

Yet abacha never stole according to buhari

And abacha remains buhari hero and mentor...
Yeepee

Oshigun:


Okupe himself admitted to collecting money from Dasuki so why should he not be summoned to explain himself? PMB is even lenient. They should all be in jail with Dasuki.

What has been done to Obanikoro that admitted collecting and distributing Dasuki bribe..


Where is jaffaru Isah , the buhari associate based in kaduna who admitted collecting money from Dasuki

We can see how lenient is PMB here with corrupt associates



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ManirBK:
And come FEBUHARI 16, 2019 by the Grace of God we will storm pooling units for PMB to the Next Level

You can only play lotto and baba ijebu in pooling units on failbuhari

NwaAmaikpe:



Please they should allow him respond to treatment in Germany?

A judge with conscience would either strike out the case or adjourn it to when it will be very convenient for OUK to attend.

How did he travel when his name is on the travel ban list released by buhari gov't

Breaking......

Nnamdi Kanu resurfaces or its propaganda

There is wild celebrations in the SE now.....

Will this alter the political calculation from both APC and PDP..

Will buhari soft pedal on nnamdi kanu reappearance to help him gain sympathy in the SE or still arrest his supporters if his resurface is real

Will buhari go after Nnamdi kanu after tagging him a terrorist

Will he allow nnamdi kanu to be in order to deplete the expected votes the Atiku wants to harp in the SE

Will Nnamdi kanu supposed emergence play a big role in 2019 election

Is his news of reappearance strategic to 2019..

Will the SE still go for boycott or for election to decide their political future..

Is this a form of distraction from the ruling party to cause confusion among the SE people who are in btw referendum or restructuring and who have made up their minds to go with atiku/Obi ticket..

Time will tell..

When will he sign the one that bars public officials like him from seeking medical treatment abroad esp with our tax payers Money

To the buharist


Ask them why they became mute after the gandudge agbada mobile banking bribery video but were ranting over what they said its an assumption that atiku bribed delegates with dollars despite inability to provide picture or video evidence



Ask those defending buhari to tell us why buhari said abacha remains his hero for life.

Ask them where yusuf buhari got millions to buy his power bikes despite no records of him working

Ask them Why it is easy for buhari to dine and wine with same people he tagged criminals and looters

Ask them to tell you why buhari can't prosecute thieves in his gov't

Ask them Why he went to beg OBJ and IBB to support him in 2015 and why he collected money from Atiku to sponsor his campaign

Tell them to provide evidence of atiku being corrupt and why has the EFCC and buhari failed to prosecute him till date

Ask them why its difficult for buhari to tell Nigerians he had mansion in abuja

Ask them why buhari served under abacha and why buhari still insist abacha never stole despite the huge loot recovery by same buhari from abacha loot

Ask them if light and darkness can walk and work together and why is it easy for their mister integrity to walk and work with criminals

Ask them to mention one project buhari has commissioned in their own state

Ask them where did buhari wife get 2.5b naira that his aides stole from her ... Mind you the aide is still in police custody

Ask them why buhari keep defending anyone caught with corruption in his govt

Ask them who owns ikoyigate money and why no one has been prosecuted


Ask them where is babachir lawal , the grasscutter

Ask them why abba kyari who collected 500m from MTN can't be touched

Ask them why buhari can't prosecute oshiomole after a court gave the directive despite submissions of evidences by edo indigene to the EFCC

Ask them at what point was atiku corrupt and how come he was the candidate of ACN in 2007 and presidential aspirant under same APC in 2015



Ask them why did buhari and all APC chieftains went after atiku and begged him to decamp to APC

Ask them if the APC chieftains were blind when
Buhari was flying in atiku private jet during campaign

Ask them to show us the site of Atiku house in US and that of tinubu and other APC chieftains to prove they are ready to expose anyone found to be corrupt

Ask them if integrity means you must be poor

Finally, ask them to define integrity and justapose it with a man who does not honour his own words and kept telling lies

Words like.... I won't seek medical treatment abroad

Subsidy is a scam

I will serve only a term if elected

I won't spare looters even if they are in my govt

I can go on and on

I challenge anyone supporting buhari to dare those posers and i will bring enough evidences to buttress it..


Where were their voices when Atiku was in APC

They should mention one court where Atiku alleged case of corruption is been heard as charged by any govt or keep quiet for life and stop embarrassing the voodoo corruption fight of buhari

BIAFRONIGERIAN:
Don't under rate a man unless he is dead

What about a man tagged as lifeless..
Should he be underrated?

On kemi Adeosun

Many thanks to the media for this great job ....

This is one of the reasons APC and buharist hate the media...

They are not happy that the media is exposing many lies and failures of this gov't...

They are not happy that the media has close its outlets as channel and medium for thier propaganda...

If not for the media, APC and buharist will be celebrating a criminal as hero and extolling her as the best...

NOW this govt says forgery is not corruption in their quest to play down the criminal act of Kemi..

They even went as far as rubbishing an institution like NYSC by saying the certificate is worthless and inconsequential

Someone like itsay sagay , a professor of law was quoted saying kemi should not be allowed to resign even if she forged her NYSC certificate
This is a shame.

Sadly... The police kept mute all through while spirited Nigerians kept the pressure on until the heat became unbearable...

Just last 2 weeks, the FG prosecuted a man for forging ICAN certificate..
Will FG do same for kemi Adeosun or another babachir lawal treatment is loading.....

This is where our religious body like CAN should come up and take care of the family of Leah while the agitation for her eventual release is successful...


The Leah family must not suffer second afflictions

chacoonder:
Davido should be careful with being partisan politically..Its not a good PR for him.

But it was good for him when he campaigned for APC in 2015

Can someone not enjoy his depressing depression in peace?

They should not depress him with another depressing depression that will add to his depression
..

Enjoy your dipression jare..

They are jealous of your depression..

Proverb 6 vs 30


People do not despise a thief if he steals to satisfy his appetite when he is hungry, but if he is caught, he will pay sevenfold; ...

Its on record that Hamed lawal moved motion for the long adjournment and was seconded by Akpabio while saraki put the motion on voice votes and the whole senators supported it without a single dissenting voice from any APC senators

Ironically, the two senators who moved and seconded the motion for adjournment are in APC

What's the noise about saraki not reconvening the house
Was it not a joint decision by the whole house to have the long adjournment

It's unfortunate that the only reasons APC wants the house to reconvene is about saraki impeachment which is a tall dream

The house committees are already looking into the INEC budget and this will have to reach an agreement before being brought to the whole house

The APC seems to have lost touch with rules and guidelines of the workings of the house

If they have the 2/3rd to impeach saraki , they should not be in hurry ..
They should work harder to solidify them and as soon as the house reconvenes officially, they should launch their missiles if it will shoot


We are already seeing the leadership tussles in same APC caucus in the House of reps between gbajabiamila group and abdulmumin group

This is what you get when you are pursuing personal interest as against interest of the nation

Everyone wants to occupy his own space to impress buhari so that they can have access to election and campaign funds for 2019 in the name or buhari reps


It seems Oshiomole battery has gone so low that he hardly barks these days

Another started and completed project ... Let's clap for buhari...

He commisioned a big building for his campaign office but no single hospital was commisioned by him ..

he kept attacking the media but can't do without having numerous media aides and media house to launch his propaganda... Always angry that the media is exposing his failures as govt