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Onliie:
please I'm having the same problem. How can I contact that pastor. It's driving me crazy.

Dont be a maga.

johnydon22:
So atheists, what do you consider to be the thesis that must be confirmed for the theory of God to make sense?

If, within five minutes after a specific prayer by a theist, the stars in the sky were rearranged to spell I AM GOD: I EXIST, and it could be seen by everybody, and it could be scientifically confirmed by every astronomer that that the stars had indeed been moved around and it wasn't just an optical illusion, then I might be convinced that there exists a great mind out there which is capable of moving stars around in response to prayer.

Can any theist make this happen? (cc: winner01)

awesomeJ:
It's not why can't he?
It's "Why won't he"

He won't cos, he doesn't have to.

You think he reckons that much with fools?

Mind you, only fools and apes are convinced by Charles Darwin.

Any man who believes the proposition actually needs help with his mental faculty.

The vast majority of sensible and intelligent people in the world are fools, but you are wise? How arrogant!

The earth rotates to cause day and night,

The earth doesn’t rotate to cause day and night for us. Rather, humanity observed the effect of the earth’s rotation and labeled it “day” and “night”. The earth, like many objects in the universe, was rotating long before we got here, and will continue to rotate after we are gone.

The male reproductive organ is a perfect fit for the females,

No, it is not a perfect fit. Sometimes it’s too big, but more commonly, it's too small. Hence the endless debate about whether ‘size matters'.

The brain detects harmful substances from just smell and taste

1) It only detects some substances, not all. Otherwise it would be almost impossible to poison a rat or any other creature with a brain.
2) Evolution explains this. Our ancestors who could identify and avoid potentially dangerous foods survived, while those who couldn’t died.

Evaporation exists to make for a perfect water cycle,

No.

When plants eject Oxygen, animals take it in and vice versa,

When PDP ejects politicians, APC takes them in and vice versa. This doesn’t mean that someone intentionally designed it to work that way.
Plants came before animals. They used the sun's rays for energy and to build their bodies, and excreted lots of oxygen into the atmosphere.
Animals evolved to use the bodies of plants and the waste product of photosynthesis (oxygen) for their own stuff. They weren’t co-designed.

There exists terminal Velocity in fluids that prevent raindrops from hitting humans with a destructive momentum,

But it doesn’t prevent the raindrops from freezing into hailstones and hitting humans with destructive momentum.

The DNA contains one of the most complex codes

No, DNA is just an organic molecule which self-replicates. We call it ‘code’ because it has a code-like structure, but it’s just a molecule. Sometimes you might see a cloud that’s shaped like a human face in the sky, but you can be certain that it’s not an actual human face.

The summary of your argument for God is “nice things exist, therefore God must have made them”. But what about bad things like Ebola?

I feel that creating fiction to fight against fiction is a bad idea. This is very close to being regarded by me as false information.

hopefulLandlord:
I strongly think you pasted the wrong link

Thanks. Corrected. https://www.nairaland.com/4603041/atheists-theists-morality-subjective-objective

You can use https://www.nairaland.com/4603041/atheists-theists-morality-subjective-objective for the discussion on morality.

Can’t we deal with the actual topic?

From the title of this thread, it looks as if Winner01 is conceding that his God doesn't have the ability to use evidence and reason to convince every atheist in the world that he actually exists. Apparently his God isn't clever enough to persuade rational skeptics. If Charles Darwin, a mere man, could convince the vast majority of skeptics that they are apes, why can't winner01's God convince them that He exists? It's not hard.

If they didn't find any of the stolen items in her possession, I would maintain that she is innocent until proven guilty.

winner01:
According to atheist philosopher Richard Taylor: “to say that something is wrong because… it is forbidden by God, is…. perfectly understandable to anyone who believes in a law-giving God. But to say that something is wrong… even though no God exists to forbid it, is not understandable… The concept of moral obligation [is] unintelligible apart from the idea of God. The words remain but their meaning is gone”.

Who is Richard Taylor and when and where did he make that statement, and in what context? If the quote is not a complete lie, then he was just trying to explain the theistic way of thinking. All those dot dot dots in the quote are there for a reason: to mislead lazy busy readers.

It’s only hidden from you.

Evangkatsoulis:
And you are still getting it wrong.
The page link still starts from 0 instead of 1.

I.E www.nairaland.com/thread/2 links to page number 3 instead of 2.

That’s how it’s usually done, for good reasons.

FriendNG:
I choose to do so in a thread.

Which makes sense because this affects a lot of people.

FriendNG:
First page in a thread is now number 1 instead of 0.

Seun

Yep. We got it wrong initially because we didn’t study other sites as much as we should have.

flinton:
I'm not understanding, I wake up with random posts like this made with my account, I was once banned for such. I investigated and saw numerous posts. I speedily changed my password and after a while, it continued

Can someone help?

Change your password again. Have you installed any toolbars or other spyware that may be capturing your password?

ChiefAzubuike:
I was in that court live. It was so heart breaking seeing the poor boy just break down like that. I even felt like crying for him. I pity am sha but I can't blame him. The country is so hard anyone would do anything for money. After judgement was passed, we whisked him away to a different location to remand him in our custody. I really wish he could be given a second chance at life. He doesn't deserve this treatment at all.

Is he innocent in your view? If so, how do you know? If not, why do you feel he doesn’t deserve this?

Bluffly:
Let's admit France scored cheap goals but now 2 real goals are in for France and Croatia has cancelled out the referred cheap goals. It seems Croatia's second goal was cheap too

Yea. My heart is still with Croatia but this is a lost cause. I thank them for the entertainment.

In admire the fighting spirit of the Croatians; they gave us one of the most entertaining world cup finals in an extremely long time.

How are European countries like France getting all these Africans to play for them? Do they just grant citizenship to all good foreign players?

The player that scored the penalty has never missed a penalty apparently. I feel so bad for Croatia.
They must be psychologically crushed right now, but if they manage to score another goal, I bet they'll win.

Penalty for France? So sad. They get to score cheap goals while the Croatians score real goals.

Austindark:
Croatia deserves this cup abeg

Agreed. I love the way their surprisingly agile old men play. The same guy scored for both teams, apparently?

Belgium played better. Their defence has been disciplined, their attacks creative, and their freakishly elongated goalkeeper very effective. The English boys are very strong, fast and handsome but they play like gunners.

johnydon22:
So when you say objectivily right, what are you implying?

It’s a meaningless term. To me objectivity and morality are not compatible. Every moral actor or group of moral actors has its own morality. If a sentient creator exists, his morality is just one of many. He judges right and wrong from his point of view, just like all other moral actors e.g. elephants, lions and human beings.

From a lion’s point of view, killing a baby elephant is morally acceptable because they have to kill to eat, but from an elephant’s point of view, lions that kill elephant babies are evil animals that ought to be exterminated.

From the hypothetical creator’s perspective, allowing little children to have cancer or be raped may be right, since he allows these things to happen; because he sees them as his playthings (he is the potter and we are the clay, right?). That doesn’t make those things right from our point of view as decent people. Any human who allows kids to be raped even though he could prevent it, would be condemned as evil by all human beings.

If a creator exists, his morality is just his subjective morality. I do not believe that picking one moral actor’s subjective morality and labeling it as “objective” makes sense.

johnydon22:
What if God says the contrary?

Then that is God’s subjective opinion of morality, I guess. Being the creator doesn’t make his positions objectively right.

She's lucky to be rid of you. No she didn't "get raped", she was raped and that's a crime.

So if you're 1 day younger than the age of accountability, you go to heaven, but if you're 1 day older, you'll be burned eternally? That's unjust.

As an atheist, I wish I could find some proof of the existence of God in order to free the Filipinos from this murderous buffoon. But there's none.

refresh!!

dalaman:
My two daughters are Christians even though am an atheist.

Are they true Christians or just going to church to please their mother? Are they well educated on religion? Did you teach them critical thinking?

oluomoadebayo:
Scarlet had 11 puppies but we lost all.

Sorry about this bro. What killed them?

McMayor:
Thanks for your response. I dont think i want to continue anymore. Just that it is very cheap and then the dogs love them but i dislike soft / watery poo and they tend to eat more when i serve the foetus meat with there noodles / rice.

Humble Suggestions:
1. Feeding dogs with meat without any bones leads to watery poo. Add chicken bones to their food to harden the poo.
2. Mix the foetus meat and chicken bones with rice instead of indomie, which contains gluten, a sticky protein that's not easy to digest.