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There are many versions of this song:

Version 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Y0UZD7tzw

Version 2
It's not by works of righteousness;
But by His Grace alone.
It's not by works of righteousness;
But by His Grace alone.
It's not by works of righteousness;
But by His Grace alone.
And we are complete in Him.

CHORUS
Complete, complete, complete in Him.
We are complete in Him.
Complete, complete, complete in Him.
We are complete in Him.

There's nothing more that I can do
for Jesus paid it all ....
The fullness of the Godhead bodily dwelleth
in my Lord ....
There's now no condemnation to them who
are in Christ ....

Version 3
The fulness of the godhead bodily dwelleth in my Lord (x3)
So we are complete in him.
(We are totally covered)

Complete, complete, complete in him
We are complete in him
Complete, complete, complete in him
We are complete in him

ECU Favorite Songs

I will open up my heart
Ready for your holy fire
I will let you into my mind
And into my soul
Pledging my life
Serving you is my desire
I won't be holding back at all
Responding to your call


And we will say That You are good
And all the miracles You’ve done have brought us joy
For we are changed And all the hope we have We place in You right now

Father we declare that we love You
We declare our everlasting love for You
Father we declare that we love You
We declare our everlasting love for You

Summary: Man finds worthless garbage in the bush.

This is one of the issues with religion. It creates imaginary problems. Here is a single person with a healthy sex drive, who feels guilty because he does what a large percentage of single people with healthy sex drives do. He hasn't harmed anybody, yet he's acting as if he killed someone.

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Yes. You should also look into non-lethal weapons like pepper spray and tasers because killing people is not the only way to protect yourself.

PhenomenalMorgan:
Salvation from Gods just punishment for our wrongdoings and from our sinful nature!!!

Yea, you lost me at "God". Who is God? (from your perspective)

PastorDavidAwuj:
Jesus already paid the price for our salvation. Our role is simply to accept the salvation He offers

Salvation from what, exactly?

How large is the farm? For a small farm (or garden), smashing them one by one every night until they are all dead is surprisingly effective.

akinsmail51:
Instead of killing them, I would advise you arrange for their kidnapping by baiting them with their choicest foods such as pawpaw or watermelon. You may have to make these available around 5pm-6pm, then return to pick them up by an hour's time. These can also be an alternative source of income for you.

Nice idea. You've said it all.

Oga Originakalokalo, the above seem to be just stories. What makes you believe that they actually happened in the real world?

Don’t cut the tails. It is illegal in most civilized countries except the USA. It’s unecessary and cruel.

What’s the name of the woman in this true life story? What church did she attend when it happened?

Congrats!!!

Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

urahara:
Egypt is not a black mans creation. Egyptians were not black.

Agreed. Though this was just recently discovered.

What is Benin kingdom compared to when 2000 years ago , Romans where building colloseums when blacks where still struggling to use rafia nad mud to build mud houses.

I'll abandon this line of argument and go back to the point that only Canaan was cursed in the passage that inspired this thread. The purpose of the story of Canaan being cursed was to justify the ethnic cleansing of the land of Canaan by the Israelites. Biblical authors view Ham's son Kush as the ancestor of black Africans and he was not cursed. So there is no biblical basis for the notion that blacks are cursed.

If you believe that black people are cursed, how do you explain Obama, Serena Williams, Michael Jordan, Dangote, Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce?

urahara:
Really ... Pls give examples

Hmm. How about Egypt and the Benin kingdom?

The early Christians started the practice, most likely because it was the day that Jesus was said to have risen from the dead. The Lord's day.

JESUSBOIY:
So you read the Bible. But why?

These days it is mostly it's to back up my points when I engage in discussions about religion. A good understanding of the bible is very useful.

Why would the devil be intimidated by physical copies of the Bible? It's just a book; created in the printing press like any other book.

I like NIV because of the notes that tell us which verses are not so clear in meaning or have different versions in the original manuscripts.

I like NASB too because it’s more literal, but unlike the KJV it is a modern translation based on the best available manuscripts that we have.

I think the KJV is a very inaccurate version of the bible because the creators didn’t have the resources available to modern translators.

HigherEd:
There are stranger events and instructions in scripture.

Yes, for example, Numbers 21:8-9 below :-

The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

Your prayers don’t have to be long and repetitive. Just say whatever is on your mind, wrap it up, and get back to your productive life.

“And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.” Matthew 6:7-8. The Lord’s Prayer, given by Jesus, is less than 1 minute long.

Originakalokalo:
Wrong!! !!!!!!!!

The Athens, after worshiping all the gods they could think of, ERECTED AN ALTAR.. and inscribed on it.. TO THE UNKNOWN GOD..

There is no place in the scriptures where a statue or idol was used to represent this unknown God in that passage of the Bible...

Besides, if it was a statue, apostle Paul wouldn't dare compare God to a statue.

Apologies for being lazy. Yes, it was an altar, and there is no explicit mention of a statue. So some of the Athenians were worshipping an unknown God and Paul incorporated the unknown God into his gospel message, implying that the unknown God they were worshiping was the same as the God of Christianity. This made it easier for them to accept the gospel. Is that a fair interpretation?

You also said that the ANCIENT JEWS borrowed some polytheistic belief before they become monotheistic..

That is a lie from the hottest part of a burning hell.

Who is a Jew?


A Jew is
Someone from the tribe of Judah plus some benjamites and some Levites.

These tribes are from Jacob, who served God almighty..

Jacob is from Isaac who served the almighty God..

Isaac is from Abraham who served the almighty God..

There was no time when THE JEWS were polytheistic.

God will have mercy on you.

Another lazy mistake, which I apologize for. What I meant to imply is that the ancestors of the Jews (Hebrews and/or Israelites) were polytheistic, and elements of their beliefs were incorporated into Judaism. Is this something that we can agree on?

If you look at deliverance ministries in Nigeria, they have incorporated traditional beliefs about “marine spirits”, “spiritual spouses”, etc into their flavor of the gospel. This happens all the time in religion.

lastly, The muslims and the Christians serve the same God... That is a lie.

God of the Christians affirmed that Jesus is his begotten son..

Allah said he has no son...

Mode of worship, believes and doctrines are entirely different...

Obviously, Allah and Yahweh are not the same.

Agreed. That’s not what I was trying to say. It didn’t come out right.

By the way, Yahweh is more similar to Allah than to the Christian God. Yahweh is one. Allah is one. The Christian God is 3. The Muslims probably got the idea of the one God from Jews. Religions have always borrowed popular ideas from each other and continue to do so.

Where do you think the Christian practice of speaking in tongues came from? Certainly not Jesus, who said “do not babble like the pagans”

It is unremarkable that the Muslim religion borrowed some elements of the Arab polytheistic beliefs that preceded it. Many religion have done this in order to be more marketable.

In Acts 17, Apostle Paul claimed that an “unknown god” that some Athenians were worshipping (as an idol/statue) at an altar was the same God that he was preaching about. This made it easy for people who already worshipped that god to embrace Christianity.

Here in Nigeria, Yoruba Christians say that the God of the Bible is the same as Olorun and Oludumare in Yoruba mythology (even though they reject the stories told about them in the myths). This makes the transition from paganism to Christianity smoother for Yoruba traditionalists.

Even the Jewish Bible, the Old Testament, borrows some elements of the polytheistic beliefs that ancient the ancestors of the Jews held before they became monotheistic.

So let’s free the Muslims. If we accept that Jews and Christians worship the one true God who (allegedly) created and controls everything that exists, we should not find it difficult to accept that Muslims worship that same God. Whether that God actually exists is a different matter.

You can command a husband and wife to be kind, respectful, and seductive to each other, but you can’t command them to love. People can’t control their emotions, but they can control their actions. The Bible should be updated to reflect this understanding.

danvon:
Where did I mention communists?

You mentioned Stalin who was a communist dictator. I also mistakenly thought Neitsche was one of them.

danvon:
What is your source for morality?

There is no “source” of anyone's morality. Rather, there are a multitude of factors which influence your moral judgments as a person. Asking for the “source” of someone's morality is like asking someone “what is the ingredient in your soup?” or “what is the food that you eat?”

The strongest ‘argument’ that religious apologists have against atheism is to define atheism as something that it is not. Strong atheism doesn’t mean having no morals. It means holding a belief that there is no God. Weak atheism means not holding a belief in God.

The most “extreme” atheists are gentlemen like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. The Communists don’t fight for atheism but for communism.

Moved to Agriculture section.

Can the spiritual realm cause an amputated leg to grow back in the physical realm?

Martinez19:
They are equivalent in the aspect that they don't change regardless of what people think. Morality is not just a belief or idea, I believe that it's something we are born with and it's governed by reasoning and empathy. The difference in moral norms across all places and history is due to influence of religious and cultural upbringings (both of which are usually merged together and influence reasoning).

I think the word "morality" is problematic because it can mean so many things that are not exactly the same. Moral norms. Moral codes. Moral principles. Moral philosophy. Moral behaviour. Moral judgement. This causes us to have disagreements that are purely based on definitions.

The core of morality is the judging of actions to determine whether they are appropriate (good, right) or inappropriate (wrong, evil). This judging can be done individually or collectively. So many different things can influence our judgment of actions including all the things that have been mentioned on this thread. Morality involves anything that can be influence our judgment of actions. Reasoning, empathy, laws, religious beliefs, tradition, peer pressure, social norms, philosophical reasoning, cost/benefit analysis, etc. All these things affect our judgment of actions.

Update: Seems that there are two threads on this topic. Yikes.

johnydon22:
Subjectivity means something is a matter of individual belief
Objective means something is independent of belief
but Intersubjectivity means something is a matter of a large collection of individual beliefs.

But how do we apply it to morality because it seems quite apparent that human beings don't have the same opinions about what is moral or not. This is something that is not debatable at all; it's an obvious fact. This makes me feel that I do not understand the topic at all.

Martinez19:
When people say morality is subjective, they mean that an action or deed is moral if an individual deems it so

Obviously, nobody believes this. Nobody here would say that, "if a terrorist believes that suicide bombing is moral, then that makes it moral".

ie. what is moral depends on what an individual deems moral and what's moral for one can be immoral for another

If the highlighted statement means that what one person considers to be moral may be different from what another person considers to be moral, then it's an obvious fact that we all know. That's why this debate is so challenging for me to get into. I must be missing something.

When people say morality is objective, they mean that what is moral is not dependent on an individual's perspective. Saying morality is objective means what is good is good regardless of how people choose to see it.

I don't get it. How can we conclude that something is good if no person sees it as good? How can we find out if something is 'objectively' moral?