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johnydon22:
Current girl friend is an atheist, A popular one here on Nairaland at that... I'm a lucky bastard

Yep.

Rilwayne001:
Atheism is a system of forcing yourself to hold the belief that God doesn't exist in your brain. Sometimes you see evidence of otherwise, yet you still argue and rationalize the evidence to suit your delusion.

I don’t hold a belief that God doesn’t exist. I merely reject the claims of God's existence. When a judge finds a defendant not guilty, it doesn’t mean he's innocent. It means the prosecution hasn’t provided enough evidence to prove the defendant's guilt beyond any reasonable doubt. I cannot rule out the existence of a God who doesn’t interfere in our affairs and is hiding from us because he wants us to leave him alone. But I won’t hold a belief in the existence of even that God until someone finds a way to lure him out of hiding and prove his existence to us.

Akiintom:
Difference.....

Atheists ask for evidence of claims
Agnostist doubts claims

So agnostics don’t ask for evidence of claims? And atheists don’t doubt claims?

Humchi:
Okay, what if there are undiscovered proves to be discovered in the next 2 years about God existence, where do you think your soul would be if you die before it's been proven?

1. My soul will be in the same place that your soul will be if a different religion from the one you follow turns out to be the true religion.
2. People have been trying to prove Gods existence for thousands of years without any success. Success in the next 2 years is very unlikely.

Dalam0n:
Why else will you invest money into any business when you already have a thriving business of selling snake oil?

Funny enough, they literally sell anointing oil.

Kayharry:
wont they feel u betray them

It is better for them to feel betrayed in the future than for him to be betrayed right now.

raptex:
How do I break the news that I'm no more a Christian to my parents.My Dad doesn't take it lightly with me and my siblings if we decide not to attend church programmes

You need to hide it until you have completed your education and you’ve gotten a good job and your own apartment. Then you can invite your parents to your apartment and tell them. Deception is highly recommended in order to avoid a very painful and difficult life.

rekinomtla:
There's no need to reconcile my view with those passages as trinitarism affirms that there is only one God.

Yes, doctrine of three God's. The trinity posits only one God.

So basically, God is not a person but a group of people. Like how the soccer players on a pitch can be 11 people but just one team? This means that every interaction “with God” is actually an interaction with one of the 3 people that make up “Team God”?

If so, why did God pretend to be a single person rather than a team of persons throughout the Old Testament and most of the New Testament? If the trinity is so fundamental to the nature of God, why is it not clearly explained in any of the 66 books that God allegedly inspired?

rekinomtla:
the trinity maintains that Jesus and the Father are not the same person. The heresy of modalism says they are.

How do you reconcile your view with the passages below?
“Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!” Deuteronomy 4:4.

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.‘“ Mark 12:29.

Have you heard about the “heresy” of Tritheism?

It's a nifty concept that allows us to treat Jesus and God as the same person or as different people depending on which is more convenient.

When worshipping or praying to Jesus, it's not idolatry because Jesus is God. God's oneness, as declared in the Old Testament isn't violated.

OTOH, when Jesus cries "my God, my God why have you forsaken me?", it makes perfect sense because Jesus and God are different people.

"I and the Father are one" - the same person.
"My father is greater than I" - different people.
"Before Abraham was, I am" - the same person.
"Nobody knows the day or the hour, not even the son, only the Father knows" - different people.

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enilove:
How would that be? Is there any God greater than the God of the Bible?

The writers were were ancient people. They lived in a time of dictatorship, slavery, superstition and brutality. The God they created was limited by their worldview. They imagined God as a man who answered to no one, demanded absolute obedience and constant praise, inflicted brutal tortures on those who dared to oppose him and their families, and condoned slavery, because that was the kind of rulership that they were used to. A modern God would be more like Obama or Trudeau. There would be elections in heaven but he would always win without cheating.

enilove:
Do you believe there is a God that Created everything we see around us , including you and I ?

Even if he believed in the existence of a creator, his creator would be far superior to the creator character presented in the book of Genesis.

davedayo:
For sure Are you denying this?
This is the screenshot

No, but can you see that there is a difference between what I said and what you implied that I said?

Clearly your extensive knowledge of marine spirits didn't come from the bible. Where did it come from? Are you an ex-marine spirit? If so, why do marine spirits live in water when most of the people they want to oppress live on land? Won't it be better for them to live among us, on land?

The sons of God in the passage are literally sons of God. It’s not a reference to human males. The story was composed before Jews became monotheistic. So God had sons who were lesser gods (like Wonder Woman and Ogun). Those lesser gods could impregnate women, and when they did, their children were giants. Simple.

Buking1:
Moses, a Jew, apparently married a black African ... Just like the clear example of Moses I here to tell everyone one who said he is a child of God mostly Christain to stop the stigmazation coz you might get yourself a curse like Miriam

I fully support your anti-racist message! If your Bible story can make people improve their behaviour, that’s great.

However, I wonder why the story (Numbers 12) says that only Miriam was cursed with leprosy for 7 days even though both Aaron and Miriam spoke against Moses. Is it because Miriam being a woman made her criticism of Moses more offensive in the eyes of Israel’s male God?

Davedayo, can you post a link to where I mentioned the question you want me to answer?

How about now?

capitalzero:
1.Through supernatural means

1. Please be more specific. Did God dictate the five books to Moses, just like the Quran?

2. What makes you believe that Moses had the power to write accurately about things that happened before he was born?

2. Yes, he wrote most parts of it. just like a book can be credited to an author even after his death,though he has not completed the book.

3. Do you believe that the alterations made to Deuteronomy after Moses died were also divinely inspired, even though we don’t know the people who made them. If so, what is the basis for this belief?

4. Would you agree that the other books Moses allegedly wrote, such as Genesis, may have been edited by other people after he died? How can we distinguish between the passages that Moses wrote ‘through supernatural means’ and the ones that were added later or altered by unknown people?

JMAN05:
I discuss with people here on nairaland, and if you wish Seun, we can talk about my belief. But never, ever with an apostate handed over to Satan. Never!

Isn’t that because they know all your dirty secrets, such as the numerous false prophecies of the Watchtower Society?

Excessive fasting followed by aggressive praise worship can cause people to faint. Lack of proper first aid, with people praying over the victim instead of getting her to a doctor, can lead to death. Just speculating.

Kenneth4u205:
and most importantly,go for deliverance.the demons the makes sin so sweet to us doesn't automatically go away when we give our life to Christ and become born again.

You think that demons are responsible for our enjoyment of sex? What a sad day for biology teachers. When your female cat is in heat and all the male cats in the neighborhood converge on your compound, is that demonic too? Perhaps we owe demons a great debt for making us enjoy doing what we need to do for the survival of our species.

The fear of interacting with people who don’t share your views is a sign that you don’t have sufficient evidence for your beliefs. You won’t see evolutionary biologists warning each other to stay away from creationists, or atheists who are scared that they may fall into Christianity if they talk to Christians.

RexEmmyGee:
Moses.

Q1: The book of Genesis contains stories that were said to have taken place centuries before Moses was supposed to have been born. How did Moses get this information? Were the words of the book dictated to him by God?

Q2: The same people who said Genesis was written by Moses also said Deuteronomy was written by Moses, but chapter 34 talks about things that happened after he died. What is your explanation for this?

Without an open mind and willingness to surrender to the supremacy of God, there are things that will forever be a mystery. You cannot understand them using your knowledge it will only lead to confusion.

If you have never opened your mind and surrendered to the supremacy of other Gods, such as Allah, what gives you the right to ask anybody to do the same for your God?

owoshuyi:
And Oga, I didn't say snakes are the only animals that crawl on its belly, I said they are the only reptiles that do so, and up till now I didn't know about glass lizards. But it doesn't change my belief that Snakes had legs before it was cursed.

The common ancestors of snakes had legs. They ‘lost’ their legs because they didn’t need legs anymore. It wasn’t a curse to them, but a blessing, to not have to maintain a body part that does nothing for them. That’s the same reason why we don’t have tails, by the way.

owoshuyi:
It's not a story or tale. It's the truth. Maybe seeing a snake talk amazed Eve and that's one of the reasons y she easily fell for Satan's deceit.

Granting the power of speech to an animal that is physically incapable of speaking is amazing. It’s similar to enabling elephants to fly. I would think that only the creator would be capable of doing such things. Is your Satan all-powerful, too? If not, what are the limits of his power?

capitalzero:
information in Bible is real,authetic and reliable. Try to study Bible with an open mind.

Do you know the name of the writer of the book of Genesis? How can you vouch for a book when you don’t even know who wrote it?

I’m pleased that owoshuyi has learned about the existence of glass lizards, which have no legs just like snakes.

It’s unfortunate that capitalzero has put so much effort into justifying a story that probably started as a tale by moonlight for Jewish kids.

It makes no sense for Satan to use a snake to talk to Eve, since snakes cannot talk. If the story was true, Satan would have used a parrot!

iberibe1:
Omode o mo ogun onpe lefo. Eni shango toju e yoda ko ni ba won bu oba koso mo.

if things are rosy for you, please thank your God or whatever you believe in but just know that these things (juju) exists and are very potent.

All our “potent” juju did not prevent white men with guns from conquering, enslaving and dominating our people. Juju is just magic. Tricks.

The two men never debated each other, so once again, religious apologists have to resort to using lies to defend their indefensible ideas.

Some quick reactions to Kent Hovind's juvenile arguments:

"The universe is run by laws. Who gave the laws?" Scientific 'laws' are not laws. They are just observations. We call them laws because the terminology was coined by scientists who believed in the existence of a creator. They felt that their consistent patterns they observed in nature must have been decreed by the creator, so they came up with terminology "laws of nature". In fact, scientific 'laws' are just observations.

"Scientists say that nothing exploded to create everything" No, they say that an extremely dense ball of matter expanded rapidly and this led to the universe that we observe around us. It is true that scientists don't know where that compressed ball of matter 'came from'. But scientists have never claimed to be omniscient. The fact that scientists are honest enough to admit that they don't know some things makes them more credible. Religion claims knowledge, but their explanation for everything is to say that "God did it", based on ancient myths.

"These guys have looked for missing links in the fossil record but they can't find any" This is tautological. By definition, once you find a missing link, it ceases to be a missing link. Many species formerly regarded as "missing links" have been found, so they are no longer "missing".

Try feeding him with something that requires extensive chewing, like raw chicken with bones included. Alternatively, you can brush the teeth.