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abbeywasc: hmmmmm, i'm not faulting the fact dt d sultan chose not to follow scientific evidence or saudi. however some things are still wrong.
1) there is an islamic ruling on witnessing. this was invoked in india when one team out of four moonsighting teams claimed dey saw d moon. d majority stance was invoked. in nigeria, none of the 24 MSC members spread across d nation saw it, yet........
2) when such a claim was made, y didnt he consult wt d MSC b4 making the pronouncement, at least he trusted dem enuff to appoint dem
3) it is quite common dt two consecutive lunar month are never of d same lenght. its usually 29d, 30d, 29d, etc. shaban was 29 if we assumed dt saturday we started was really first of Ramadan.
anyway dts nw in d past and we shud luk ahead and find means of averting such.
NB: i liked ur post by d way. and pls pay back the fast u missed on sunday. the Sultan has spoken on d issue again.
may Allah accept it as an act of ibadah and save us from the torment of His wrath both on earth and the day of accountability

tbaba1234: Read the report of the investigative group:

The report of the joint committee, compiled by Usman Mahmud, a research officer with the National Moon Sighting Committee, reads in part:

“I write to inform you that we (the National Moon Sighting Committee) and the Sultanate Moon Sighting Committee went to the Sighting of Moon today (Sunday, July 27, 2014).

“The moon was not sighted with Unclad eye or with telescope and binocular. However, we used some programmes and software applications like Skymap, Stellarium and Virtual Moon to get the details of the moon



The report is saying no moon was sighted ,

tbaba1234: Read the report of the investigative group:

The report of the joint committee, compiled by Usman Mahmud, a research officer with the National Moon Sighting Committee, reads in part:

“I write to inform you that we (the National Moon Sighting Committee) and the Sultanate Moon Sighting Committee went to the Sighting of Moon today (Sunday, July 27, 2014).

“The moon was not sighted with Unclad eye or with telescope and binocular. However, we used some programmes and software applications like Skymap, Stellarium and Virtual Moon to get the details of the moon



The report is saying no moon was sighted ,

sino: If you are waiting on the Sultan to come on TV to make an announcement, then i'm afraid you are on a long thing, but i am hopeful....
I believe this report is suffient for a wise Muslim.

Just repay a day fast lobatan!

tbaba1234: According to the report, the Sultan ordered an investigation and the result was that no moon was sighted:

The Sultan, who is also the President of the Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs [NSCIA], commissioned the joint moonsighting investigation after his Saturday call triggered controversy, with some of the nation’s foremost clerics as well as the Secretary General of the NSCIA, Is-haq Oloyede, openly questioning his judgment.

The result of the investigation, also endorsed by the Sultan’s representatives, was unambiguous: The claim that the moon was sighted on Saturday was questionable as it was impossible for anyone to see the moon anywhere in the world at that time.

The committee carried out its assignment between 6:45PM and 7:45PM on Sunday.

The report of the joint committee, compiled by Usman Mahmud, a research officer with the National Moon Sighting Committee, reads in part:

“I write to inform you that we (the National Moon Sighting Committee) and the Sultanate Moon Sighting Committee went to the Sighting of Moon today (Sunday, July 27, 2014).

“The moon was not sighted with Unclad eye or with telescope and binocular. However, we used some programmes and software applications like Skymap, Stellarium and Virtual Moon to get the details of the moon.

“The details of the Moon are: Age: 19H (hour) 05M(minutes); Hour Angle/DE:04H 45M 11S(seconds)/ +12 21’11′; Distance between sun and moon: 3.5′.”


If the investigating committee says no moon was sighted then we can't have Eid.

Now we await an official retraction, I hope he is courageous enough to make one. It would be very embarrassing.

sino: @Mac, i am surprised at your comments thus far, i believe you are not new to technology, and i also believe you do have those prayer time apps? If you do, then why would you then disregard reports from moonsighting. com that have more than 20years dedicated to the sighting of moon?

We all were alive when the prediction for the solar eclipse was announced, we witnessed the accuracy of the prediction. Allah has blessed us with the knowledge to accurately predict these events, there is no way it will replace the sunnah, rather it should enhance the sunnah and end this continuous back and forth every Ramadan.

I do not fault the Sultan, from the reports i have read so far, he was bombarded by reports of "true" sighting, as a result of that, he made the announcement, but i'll not go ahead with following such announcement, knowing fully well that it is impossible to see the moon with naked eyes on Saturday, and knowing the implication on "me" with following such a news...

For those who did follow the announcement, there is no blame on you, your fast and eid are valid...

Hisham ibn Urwah has related from Abu Salih from Abu Hurairah that the messanger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said:"After me governors would rule over you and those who are upright would rule you by their uprightness and those who are corrupt will rule over you by their corruptness: listen to them and obey them in everything which is compatible with the truth- if they are correct in their dealings then it will be to your benefits and theirs, and if they are incorrectly then that will still be to your benefit (in the next world) but will be held against them."

May Allah Guide us all, ameen.

jazboy: Unilorites (unilorin students) base on ur observation and previous unilorin admission process,kindly tell us ur envisaged cut off mark,ur response will be well appreciated.

tbaba1234: You who believe, it is not lawful for you to inherit women against their will,b nor should you treat your wives harshly, hoping to take back some of the bride-gift you gave them, unless they are guilty of something clearly outrageous. Live with them in accordance with what is fair and kind: if you dislike them, it may well be that you dislike something in which God has put much good. If you wish to replace one wife with another, do not take any of her bride-gift back, even if you have given her a great amount of gold. How could you take it when this is unjust and a blatant sin? How could you take it when you have lain with each other and they have taken a solemn pledge from you? Surah 2: 19-21.

aishaquest: I guess my problem is that sometimes I find Islam beautiful. Then there are times when I find it's practicality cold and calculating. It is confusing to me. I don't know how to take it sometimes. Maybe this frightens me.

aishaquest: Assalam Aleikum tbaba1234

Pardon me but you totally ignored the reason for the divorce in the first place. The bolded was made in response to men divorcing because they want to get rid of one of the four to bring in a new wife.


You are talking about how Muslim society should not shun these women and they should have the opportunity to remarry. They likely didn't want the divorce in the first place.

This is a prime example of what deols is talking about. Somehow you've decided (maybe unknowingly) to relieve the man of any fault here and come at the problem after the fact.

"You said, "We should be dismantling the stigma". So rather than deal with the man who is trading in the older car for the new sporty model, you figure we should just make it easier for the discarded woman to remarry?

aishaquest: These two posts mirror my thoughts, and make me wonder what does "paradise" offer women really?....other than NOT falling into the punishment of hellfire? Somehow it just sounds like the lesser of two evils.

aishaquest: I was drawn to this thread because I have some of the same questions and concerns. I started reading and even copied a few quotes in readiness for a reply and some questions of my own. I only made it about halfway through the thread before I just felt too depressed to continue.


How is someone like me, who is new and knows little about Islam supposed to continue struggling to understand and assimilate, when people who have been Muslims their whole lives have fears and doubts.


Sometimes I think I would have been better off staying away from the Islam Section. Fulaman198 is making some sense, but even so I feel like I've all but lost the great hope I had in Islam. It saddens me, because I know I felt the rightness of it so strongly at first.

peter1994: wow, i dnt get it
Is it the fsb i applied for few weeks back that u guys are talking about. if it is, pls when will it hold at minna, Niger state.