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Efe42:
how did u know that Seplat recruitment will take time no doubt have u applied in seplat before ?

I have not applied before, am just trying to let you know the modalities of the recruitment and as such patience is demanded....

Efe42:
bro with GOD all things are possible
yes the recruitment was announced for university Graduates but they also said
A minimum of 5 credits (including
Mathematics and English) in one sitting
in the Senior Secondary Certificate
Examination (SSCE).
And A relevant professional qualification is an added advantage) is on the Advert

It is well, those conditions were attached to the clause of being a university graduate infact the class of graduation was stated, it was also stated in clear terms that prospective candidates must meet the requirements, I am not Seplat though and I can be sometimes pragmatic when discussing issues but I pray things work out for you.......let's keep our fingers crossed, be hopeful and prayerful.

Efe42:
thanks alot bro i could not go too Higher Institution because of lack of fund by my parent so when i wront my SSCE so i deside to go too the Engineering sector as an apprentics for 6y as a welder an pipefitter

This is meaningful, not giving up in the face of challenges. The truth is not everyone is privilege to have people who can finance their tertiary education and for those of us that are privileged, we should be thankful. I salute your tenacity, courage and the ability not to waiver in the face of all these. My only reservation is that the recruitment was announced for University Graduates, don't you think that might affect your chances based on the tendered certificates.

BTW, I hope things work out for you, All things are possible to them that believes.

Efe42:
u wont understand i realy realy realy NEED a JOB, do u know what it feel like when u are unempolyed for like helf a year all u do is just seat at home for 8months to even feed ur self is a very big problem, have u come to that point in ur life before, let me not go forther that why u see me every were because i dont want to seat at home next year by GOD GRACE i realy want to work for selpat because they are passionate about they do work

I understand your plight but a little bit of patience is needed. Seplat recruitment will take time no doubt considering they will still shortlist candidates to write test (Dragnet work), interviews and medicals before offer letter. The only thing you can do is to be hopeful and prayerful, those who have been called have not been automatically selected, they are also in the race like you, keep calm and also try to work more on your vocabularies.
Thanks.
Sorry to ask, what school did you finish from??

Just got a mail for medicals, does it means I will just report at the given venue within the stipulated time frame?

busayobayode9@gmail.com

Success mail. Thank you Father, indeed there was evidence.

fatai4change:
Also, to refute your posit that i was "rejected" by university. I never applied to university after my secondary school rather i applied to polytechnic and was admitted, i even had the opportunity of DE to LASU after my ND programme, but i rejected it. The reason for that was not just for glorification but was prompted by my goal to be the best of my field. I had seen and still seeing graduates of both polytechnics and universities and it is not a covert outcry that the former are better than the latter. Why?

The polytechnic teaches and empirically develop its products. How?

The initial two (2) years of study is subjected to experience and training (1 year I.T) and also a requirement for HND admission, thus making HND classes very interactive where every individuals will come with his/her observations and experiences.

Consequently, undergraduate studies requires not just recycling the archaic philosophy (Theory) of solving professional challenges rather a foundation philosophies and empiricalism to confute or construe the one that suits contemporary professional practice. Thus, higher degrees can subsequently enhance one's ability of proposing assertions or set of principles that fit the country and the contemporary practice. The Institute of Strategic Management Nigeria describes it as "Management theory Jungle".

This is the stance of Polytechnic education in Nigeria.

Lol, the funniest comment ever.
Poly grad better than Uni grad and Banks use HND mostly as Contract staff and tellers and frustrate them for years, and Uni as ET and high ranking officers, this year alone, Stanbic, Access, Diamond, Union, EcoBank all announced recruitment for ET, it was Bsc no room for HND go and check that my brother, go to the oil and gas, Shell, Orwell, ODNL and recently Seplat was for University graduates alone, GE jobs for Entry level is University graduates. The big four accounting firms announcement was for Bsc. The truth is glaring enough. I work with a top construction company in Abuja and the firm doesn't even recruit HND graduates. It prides itself as employers of university best brains.

I am not against Polytechnic education, you are free to even get your Masters there (lol) but to wake up and say a diploma is equivalent to a degree is weed effect, do what work best for you, I won't engage this conversation anymore. I am just amazed at how the Poly graduates are better and all the recruitments have seen so far as a young graduate doesn't reflect it.

Click on the links posted above to read different views to the matter and hear from those who are fresh and experienced, those who were privileged to attend both polytechnics and universities and who won't refrain from the truth.

It is wrong to compare a degree with a diploma.
Let this debate die down and let us all move forward, I wasn't just pleased that you want to demean the university products.

fatai4change:
The challenge of unemployment in Nigeria is not an issue for HND graduates only; In fact we have more jobless University graduates in Nigeria than Polytechnic graduates. Moreover, i am a proud product of a polytechnic and i never stopped at HND. I have done my PGD and presently doing my MSc, aggrandized with several professional courses/certifications among are: Nigerian Institute of Management (Chartered) -Ass Member, Institute of Strategic Management Nigeria - Ass Member, Professional Diploma in Digital Marketing, SEO, SMM, SEM, Web Analytics and preparing for my CIPM - Ass exams among others. All these are built upon the foundation of my HND (Upper). More so, i have proved myself outstanding among my contemporaries, specifically when i went for SSC 43 Selection Board of the Nigerian Army at NDA, 2014 and even while at training.

My inference: First Degree/HND is just the preliminary stage of higher education in Nigeria. Further development edifies the mind and thus makes one a demand-able product for employers.

Hence, is my Upper credit not worthy of the nomenclature 'almighty'?

Lol, almighty indeed and call those on 3.5 in the University Fuckers since they don't work arduously.

Let us assume you finished with a First class in a reputable Federal University. What terminology will you now use?? Some comments here though, one can't help but laugh.

ezyk:
Ur just talking rubbish. Do you know the number of university first-class graduate at home even looking for teaching jobs. Both poly and uni they're all the same so far as Nigeria is concern, just get anyone with good grade and God by ur side the sky is your starting point.

Take time out to read the comments on the links below

https://www.nairaland.com/4235580/stop-dont-buy-hnd-form


https://www.nairaland.com/2726723/shell-discrimination-hnd-holders-equating/7#39884548

fatai4change:
Wow! I am most gracious by this change. The fuckers with 3.5 on a 5 point scale had been pairing themselves with the Almighty Polytechnic Upper Class of students who arduously work to get 3.0 on a 4 point scale. Let's see how many of them would be able to achieve this feat henceforth.

You called rejected university folks who had no option but to accept polytechnic admission and finished with upper credit "Almighty" but University 2.1 graduate fuckers since they don't work arduously right. You are just embittered by the predicament of being dumped by a university, where the best brains are situated.

This is ignorance at its peak.
No wonder some organizations believe HND is equivalent to Bsc Third class, people like you are responsible for that.

joyjacob002:
Lol young man/lady, I insulted no one besides, check other comments, u will find insult dere. U can fool every 1 here but no sm1 like me. I already know where m going in my journey. Have a nice day

I wish you well in your journey

Nice one op. Very true points

A meaningful question by op. I can see clearly the potentials in you from what you said, the passion is not in AGE and it can be frustrating doing what you don't love. I remember trying to want my younger brother to study medicine but as lucrative as it is, he said his passion lies in the world of Electrical and Electronics, so I had to let him follow his heart. Please let your personality comes into play, take a bold step in talking to your parents, try to discuss it with them and hear their views, let them understand it clearly.
For now, don't drop out from AGE but take your Jamb exam by the bullhorn and get admission into the department of your choice.

People say the course you study doesn't matter in Nigeria, that's very true for those who are after financial success. But for those with passion, the course matter, it must be in line with what they love doing and trust me they can get both financial success and satisfaction.

I can't study an agricultural course and be happy, am not demeaning it but it is not my passion. Please follow your passion, in years to come you will be happy you did.

My little advice.

Kindly send a mail to busayobayode9@gmail.com I reside in Abuja....

What a shocking loss. She mourned her friend not quite long, posted her last update on facebook on the 19th and on 21st she is no more.... RIP dear. I pray God console and be the strength to the family left behind. 2017, a lot has happened.

Fongido:
Pls sir sorry for disturbing you. I'm always glad to find out things from someone who knows better than I do.
pls what if I go for HND then I do direct entry.
that will take 4 years. now I'll have ND, HND and Bsc degree. instead of doing 4 years for Bsc and at the end I'll have Bsc and ND. plus jamb stress.
is it a good idea? Hoping to hear from you. Thank you

You need to choose a path that you believe will work for you, have given my advice up there. If you want to go for HND then Bsc that's a cross to bear, If you are also gunning for Bsc directly that's another cross to bear. What you have posted up there are two routes you can take, but no need running away from Jamb stress, life in itself is stressful, we all must live with it so if you can face the stress then give your best to Jamb but if you can't then you can pass through the second route just that most times after getting the HND, you are eager to start earning and the scale of going back to school might be removed. To him that believe, all things are possible. We must learn to follow our dreams.

It brings success and satisfaction.

Let me just laugh small....

Fongido:
Amen. thank you sir. God bless you.

You are welcome. Amen and you too. He will surely lead you right.

Fongido:
Thank you very much sir. This is very helpful. I'm grateful.
like I said if I wanna consider university I am going for computer science. Maritime Academy is the well recognized maritime institution in Nigeria. Some of those universities are not well recognized by IMO.
But the industry is crap now. no jobs. the little ones available is based on man know man. that's how Nigeria labour market is. I want an entrepreneurial course and computer science is one of it. I can start earning money on my own without working for any coy if I am good in what I am doing. most important computer technology is gaining ground now and I want to take a chance. I can't bury this talent. maybe what I am facing today is a guidepost to return and do what I love. my only regret in life is not studying computer science when I finished highschool. in highschool I used to be very good in computer and internet stuffs but I lacked mentorship. that's why I ended up doing what I know I don't love bcoz I thought the course was lucrative.

A thoughtful one, I said it earlier your success and satisfaction depends on your talent, personality and passion. You already have the talent like you said, your passion will readily be channeled there with Joy, however the last thing here now is your personality, do you have the balls to take that decision?? A lot of time what fails people is their personality, they are timid and scared. Life is meant for the braved and daring ones.
I know of a friend who quit Engineering at the 3rd year to study medicine even though Engineering is lucrative but that was not his passion, can you see clearly where the personality comes into it. Today, he is doing fine in the medical line, ensure you take the best decision. If it will require you to write Jamb and start afresh, then do it with determination, dedication, diligently and prayerfully. Trust me success is sure to come.

Let your personality comes into play.

Fongido:
Thank you sir. I'm asking this question bcoz I'm considering it. I did my OND in marine engineering at Maritime Academy of Nigeria Oron. I was about going for HND this year but the school has suspended admissions till further notice.
I have passion for computer and I would like to study computer science if I am to go to university. the school didn't do computer science cos the only focus on maritime related courses.
I don't think if university will accept marine engineering for computer science cos it doesn't relate anyway. I'm thinking of starting afresh but it's not funny cos time has been spent already. I'm confused.

Firstly, I will advice you to drop and dump the HND idea and let's focus on something else. In life three things matters when it comes to living purposefully, your talent, personality and then passion. You have already discovered your passion, that is what a lot of people won't discover throughout their stay on earth. Passion cries for expression, it shows the potentials, skills, talents that one carries and time flies when you are fulfilling it. There is difference between success and satisfaction, when you follow your passion and work hard, you will surely be great and get satisfaction.

Now to your issue, please get a Jamb brochure and study it very well, some universities accept ND Distinction/upper credit in Mathematically based courses for their Computer science programmes e.g. IMSU and UDU and since engineering is mathematically based, you will surely be considered. If however you don't have an Upper Credit or don't meet the requirements for these schools then you can sit for another Jamb, this is your passion and what you love to do, you won't be the first person to finish ND and take Jamb again into the university . Don't think too much about the age factor, I have an uncle who spent three years at home just to get into the university for EEE, today he is successful and already made, that was his passion and he followed it passionately.

If you still want to go on with Marine Engineering, then apply for DE into AKSU, RSUST, FUPRE or NDU, but I will love you to follow your passion.

This is the best and genuine advice I can offer. I hope it helps. I wish you success in your future pursuits.

Fongido:
Passing through jamb or direct entry which one is better? hope no discrimination?

A good question. The modalities for admission for DE and Jamb are quite different. For Jambites, most universities set a uniform cut off mark as Jamb has given them the autonomy for all courses and do the same for post UTME before announcing aggregate scores for each department later on. The DE admission is however different, candidates are required to have O'level and then lower/upper credit minimum as the case may be, some schools conduct Post UTME for DE students too in order to ascertain them so failure in that means rejection.

After admission into the university either by Jamb or DE, you guys are all in one department and as such will work together. I don't think there exist any discrimination at least during my undergraduate programme, we didn't have such occurrence as everyone is now a university student and will all be issued degree after graduation though sometimes we make fun of the DE students.

Also, I will say entering through Jamb is better but, that however is a personal view and subject to arguments but if you are already doing your ND plan for DE, if you are just done with secondary school or still at home, plan to enter through Jamb, don't just rush to polytechnic because you want to leave house, someone said up there it is good to pay now and play later, it is a meaningful parable.

Fongido:
Passing through jamb or direct entry which one is better? hope no discrimination?

A good question. The modalities for admission for DE and Jamb are quite different, For Jambites, most universities set a uniform cut off mark as Jamb has given them the autonomy for all courses and do the same for post UTME before announcing aggregate scores for each department later on. The DE admission is however different, candidates are required to have O'level and then lower/upper credit minimum as the case may be, some schools conduct Post UTME for DE students too in order to ascertain them so failure in that means rejection.

After admission into the university either by Jamb or DE, you guys are all in one department and as such will work together. I don't think there exist any discrimination at least during my undergraduate programme, we didn't have such occurrence as everyone is now a university student and will all be issued degree after graduation.

This is what we should be celebrating.

It amazes me how the myopic religion opium folk is being magnified and discussed than this.


Thumbs up to her, Beauty with Brain...

Spylord48:
you people have not even been called for aptitude test and we are here debating on fictitious salary. We all know that most banks pay above #100k for ET why the debate and arguments. Assuming it is all those firms that pay #50k below the argument would have been understandable

Lol, funny but true.
People are yet to get invite for test, the first of a five stage recruitment process but already discussing salary.
We don't even think of what to offer the bank but only what they have to offer us....
Someone should just create another thread on what each bank pays than litter the whole thread with payment issue.

UTEWUOJO:
WHO CAN STILL REMEMBER THE EARLIER TOPIC ABOUT HND? THIS IS A TRUE MANIFESTATION OF THAT TREND.

Lol, The manifestation is right here.
Same thing happened with Stanbic, Union and Diamond
too.

They are coming for your head oooooo
Let me run away....

maestroferddi:
Why are you sounding off?


Why bank in Nigeria prefer HND to a degree?

Where is discrimination against HND more acute than in banking?

Most HND holders employed by banks end up either as contract staff or as tellers. Their career advancement/prospect hardly compares with their degree counterparts.

No elite bank would take an HND holder in lieu of a degree holder.

Do even consider the treatment the HND boss gets from degree-holding subordinates in the corporate space? Just denigration.

We all know how it feels when hear citations about qualifications/resume...You were keen to follow rendition of that achiever's accomplishments until the exercise hits a trough/anticlimax....HND? You are like, why now...The esteem takes a hit.
Dont walk into an HND trap...You will only have yourself to blame.

You are current. People won't get d fact and just come online to say what comes to their mind. This year alone, Stanbic IBTC, EcoBank, Union Bank, Diamond and recently GT Bank all announced recruitment for entry level cadres, the requirement was Bsc, no HND at all........

Let's stop overflogging a dead issue.
Get the Degree and that's all.

The post is not targeted at HND holders at all nor to belittle their achievements or effort in school, you guys should move on with life the same way we all do, The post is just to admonish upcoming young ones who will be making career and schooling decision. That's all.

At this junction, enough have been said. It is now every Man on its own. The op has stated his own side of the story and likewise everyone has both in support and against the topic. Thanks to everyone for the meaningful contributions. I pray we will all get to the top.
To the younger ones reading this, please make the best decision for yourselves now so that you won't have regret in the future don't be in a hurry and never celebrate mediocrity.
Had I know won't be your portion.

I rest my case.