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AlBaqir:There is no other way, than learning from tafsir books, from reputable scholars, the issue is the way in which people like usermane, try to create false meaning to tafsirs, i had an encounter with him regards to tafsir ibn kathir, and he was plain deceitful... Now on the issue of "those who your right hand possess", one thing to first understand is that, slaves were around during the time of the Prophet, it wasn't instituted by Islam, but with Islam, slavery was to be eradicated in a gradual process....since you would be writing about the view of slavery in Islam, i wouldn't belabor you with my explanations... Islam gave permission to marry slaves, (Q4:3), Qur'an 4 vs 24 states again "Thus hath Allah ordained (prohibitions) against you: except for these all others are lawful provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property desiring chastity not lust." As a master of a slave you want to marry, who do you go for permission to marry her? do you also know that a slave can ask for his or her freedom and the mahr of a slave is her freedom? and also when she is pregnant, and her master dies, she and her baby are free and not slaves? in the tafsir of the verse, tabari states; . فأما السِّفاح، فإن الله تبارك وتعالى حرّمه من جميعهن، فلم يحلّه من حُرّة ولا أمة، ولا مسلمة، ولا كافرةٍ مشركة.وأما الأمة التي لها زوج، فإنها لا تحلّ لمالكها إلا بعد طلاق زوجها إياها، أو وفاته وانقضاء عدتها منه. "...and in regards to zina, Allah (SWT) prohibits it on all, it is not permissible on a free woman, or a slave woman, nor on a muslim woman, or a disbelieving or a pagan woman. And for the slave woman who has a husband, she is not halal for her master, except her husband divorces her, or the husband dies and the days of iddah has elapsed. I can't read the above and then believe Islam allows what those who hate Islam wants me to believe. |
AlBaqir: We do not deny this Hadith. But it is graded daeef on the ffg points:1. Is the chain I presented not the true one? Or what is the basis of the chain being weak? 2. This would not be, if we understand that Qur'an 4:24 is not about mut'ah right? The reason for the revelation was not said to be about mut’ah, and even reading the previous and the subsequent verse, defeats the opinion that it is in regards to mut’ah. 3. Any references in the kutubu sitah? Another angle we can look at this, is that in sunni books, the hadith I quoted is sahih, with corroboration from other sources, which gives more credibility to the hadith, hence, this hadith is probably false (from what I read in tafsir tabari, it was not a statement from Ali (ra), rather from another person relating what he heard), or there is a mistake, for one would have thought if Ali (ra) had said such, then he wouldn't hesitate to revert it back, to establish the sunnah when he became the caliph. AlBaqir: 1. Kindly set your reference right for I don't think there is such chapter as "temporary marriage" in Ibn Majah.1. Oh sorry, I got it online and never bothered to check…the chapter is prohibition of Nikkah mut’ah, under Book of Nikkah, hadith number 1963 2. Albany graded it hasan 3. I can come up with several possibilities, in regards to this, one is that, due to what happened, the prevalence of people forgetting the injuction of the Prophet (SAW) and abusing mut'ah, Umar (ra), declared it haram again, stating it categorically, not to mention the need to be stern about it, if some sahabas who didn’t know about the ruling, were arguing in favor of it. 4. We can not dismiss the hadith, for there are sahih hadiths stating the forbiddance of mut’ah was by the Prophet (SAW) (these hadiths were graded sahih in sunni books), in fact reading the hadith further, Umar (ra) challenged people to bring 4 witnesses to counter his claim, but none showed. My question is, why would Umar want to forbid mut’ah when it was practiced during the early part of Islam, if there was no strong backing from the Prophet (SAW)? To prove what exactly? And again, Umar (ra) was not the last caliph, again, why didn't Uthman (ra) or even Ali (ra) revert the ruling, if they find it wrong? Or is there such narrations? Well, the Imams might be mistaken. Although, Tabari, reported the hadith of forbiddance at khaybar in his tafsir, they are not above mistakes, it doesn’t change anything. AlBaqir: I agree with you on communication laspes then, but definitely not on this case. My resolution is the case of Forbidden of mut'a at the conquest of makkah . Ibn sabra aljuhanni was the only sahaba who reported it despite the fact that tens of thousands of companions were present and reported many sayings of the prophet. In fact Ibn Sabra claimed to have seen the prophet while addressing the public.You have always maintained that majority doesn’t equate truth, nearly all sunni muffassir? I find it rather doubtful cos from what I have read so far, most tafsir reports the two opinions (which is presented later), and maintain that mut’ah is haram based on sahih hadith. And having the same root word does not equate referring to the same thing, for example, I can say "innallazeena farraqoo deenahum wa kaanoo shiya'a" (6:159) means Allah is talking about shias, and hence people should be weary of them. Thus, I present to you the opinion that states Qur’an 4:24 is not in regards to mut’ah The following are from tafsir tabari, I tend to use it mostly due to easy access and readability… القول في تأويل قوله : { فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً } قال أبو جعفر: اختلف أهل التأويل في تأويل قوله:"فما استمتعتم به منهن". فقال بعضهم: معناه: فما نكحتم منهن فجامعتموهن - يعني: من النساء ="فآتوهن أجورهن فريضة" يعني: صدقاتهن، فريضة معلومة. (1) In the interpretation of Allah’s (SWT) statement: { فَمَا اسْتَمْتَعْتُمْ بِهِ مِنْهُنَّ فَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ فَرِيضَةً } Abu Jafar said:the people tafseer differ in the translation of the statement, some of them said the meaning of the statement is Nikkah (permanent marriage), i.e from the women, “give them their obligatory reward i.e their sadak (dowry), an obligation that is known. *ذكر من قال ذلك: 9028 - حدثني المثنى قال، حدثنا عبد الله بن صالح قال، حدثني معاوية بن صالح، عن علي بن أبي طلحة، عن ابن عباس قوله:"فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورَهن فريضة"، يقول: إذا تزوج الرجل منكم المرأة، ثم نكحها مرة واحدة، فقد وجب صَداقها كلُّه = و"الاستمتاع" هو النكاح، وهو قوله وَآتُوا النِّسَاءَ صَدُقَاتِهِنَّ نِحْلَةً ) [سورة النساء: 4].9029 - حدثنا الحسن بن يحيى قال، أخبرنا عبد الرزاق قال، أخبرنا معمر، عن الحسن في قوله:"فما استمتعتم به منهن"، قال: هو النكاح. 9030 - حدثني المثنى قال، حدثنا أبو حذيفة قال، حدثنا شبل، عن ابن أبي نجيح، عن مجاهد:"فما استمتعتم به منهن"، النكاح. 9031 - حدثنا القاسم قال، حدثنا الحسين قال، حدثني حجاج، عن ابن جريج، عن مجاهد قوله:"فما استمتعتم به منهن"، قال: النكاحَ أراد. 9032 - حدثني يونس قال، أخبرنا ابن وهب قال، قال ابن زيد في قوله:"فما استمتعتم به منهن فآتوهن أجورهن فريضة" الآية، قال: هذا النكاح، وما في القرآن إلا نكاحٌ. إذا أخذتَها واستمتعت بها، فأعطها أجرَها الصداقَ. فإن وضعت لك منه شيئًا، فهو لك سائغ. فرض الله عليها العدة، وفرض لها الميراث. قال: والاستمتاع هو النكاح ههنا، إذا دخل بها. The above in summary states that istamt’atu refers to nikkah, and the narrations, are from those who uphold such translation. وقال آخرون: بل معنى ذلك: فما تمتَّعتم به منهن بأجرٍ تمتُّعَ اللذة، لا بنكاح مطلق على وجه النكاح الذي يكون بولِيٍّ وشهود ومهر. While some said, on the contrary, the statement refers to Mut’ah, it does not refer to Nikkah with the consent of the guardian, witnesses and the dowry…Narrations in regards to those that uphold this definition were also presented…. قال أبو جعفر: وأولى التأويلين في ذلك بالصواب، تأويل من تأوَّله: فما نكحتموه منهن فجامعتموه، فآتوهن أجورهن = لقيام الحجة بتحريم الله متعة النساء على غير وجه النكاح الصحيح أو الملك الصحيح على لسان رسوله صلى الله عليه وسلم. Abu Jafar then said: the first of the two translations is most accurate, based on the evidence that Allah (SWT) prohibited Mut’ah through the prohibition given by the statement of the Messenger (SAW) in regards to mut’ah. وأما ما روي عن أبيّ بن كعب وابن عباس من قراءتهما فما استمتعتم به منهن إلى أجل مسمى ) ، فقراءة بخلاف ما جاءت به مصاحف المسلمين. وغير جائز لأحد أن يلحق في كتاب الله تعالى شيئًا لم يأت به الخبرُ القاطعُ العذرَ عمن لا يجوز خلافه.Abu Jafar the further added, “and what was related by Abba ibn K’ab, and Ibn Abbas, in their recitation with addition of “for a fixed time”, this is contrary to what is present in the Qur’an of the Muslims, and it is not appropriate for anyone to add into Allah’s book a thing which has no convincing report which there can be no excuse in going against. NB: The English translations are mine, there may be some errors, and I didn’t translate the hadiths. Indeed, looking at this ayah with the perspective that I have presented, it wouldn’t be out of place to state categorically that mut’ah was not prescribed by Allah (SWT), and it wouldn’t be out of place also to understand that it was prohibited by the Prophet (SAW), and further enforced by Umar (ra) when people revert back to it. |
AlBaqir: Dear brother it is not every narration you will expect explicit reasons to be stated alongside it. You only get the true meaning of that Hadith by comparing it with other Hadith of the same genre. There are numerous ahadith attributed to Imam Jafar sadiq that permitted mut'a. This suggest this Hadith is given another ruling which makes mut'a makrooh (dislike) when there is no justification for it.Thank you for the responses brother, you have made some very good points, and I believe we may agree at the end of this communication… Firstly, I understand your point, and really, looking at the hadith from my own perspective, made me make those observations, I do not have shia books, and only take what I see posted online from different forums. On the contrary, if not forbidden to all, it suggests forbidden to the questioner, and that is a point I can work with…but again, I can go with makrooh… AlBaqir: No matter how meritorious an act is, if there is no justification for its practice, it is null and void. It is obvious people are sinning on various practices for they rush into this practice based on the Merits on it. I once cited example of polygamy. How many Muslims uphold the condition for it before jumping into it? People treacherously jump into polygamy saying it is sunnah and must be practice. Another good example is Jihad. People are killing and being killed on the basis of merits surrounding Jihad. Nobody seem care about the conditions that uphold jihad.Indeed, I agree, our justification is always with the shariah, the problem as I see it is how we are establishing the halal, mubah, makrooh and haram in regards to mut’ah. AlBaqir: This Hadith is graded Daeef. kindly visit www.sunah.comWell, I never checked the grading of the hadith, and still haven’t… And my premise is that Quran 4:24 is not about mut’ah, I have proof, and will subsequently post them AlBaqir: @underlined, that is the reason Islamic sharia is not set based on man's feelings and thinking. How many woman will truly welcome a second woman for example. There are lots if rules in Islam that are not palatable to the so-called moral system of the society. You only need to judge Islam within its codes of laws if you are to be fair. What seem repulsive to you is accepted to others therefore only Allah Has the right to set laws.All my life being a Muslim, I have come to appreciate the shariah, as I grow and learn new things about the deen, I always realize that all what Allah (SWT) enjoined us to partake in are always for the good of the individual and the society at large. The flexibility of the Islamic law has made some room for controversial issues, that is why some acts are not mandatory, rather permissible, then it becomes subjective, no need for losing sleep over, polygamy for instance, a woman is given the liberty to accept or reject during the marriage contract, not to mention the responsibilities of the man to the woman and vice versa set by Allah (SWT), each partner is taken care of, whether written or not. Mut’ah does not give room for that, it is lopsided and the problems it would create in the society wouldn’t be little. AlBaqir: That aside, mut'a is a legal contradict between two parties under supervision of a guardian - jurist or Imam. Both parties must be aware of the rules and a woman is given liberty to demand as she wish and set her own terms and conditions.Now those mujtahids are my kind of peeps can you now see why I said as a father, I can’t imagine myself accepting such for my daughters? Limiting to widows and divorcee makes sense to some extent, but the flaws cannot be ignored or overlooked. AlBaqir: You as a father or brother can allow mut'a to take place between your daughter or sister respectively with her fiancee on several conditions agreed by both parties. One of such conditions might be no s.Ex. If such conditions is set, it is up to each party to uphold it as Allah is watchful of our affairs. Those who go against mut'a thought it to be s.ex s.ex s.ex practice but it is not. This makes lot of sense than daughters and sisters enjoying themselves secretly through fornication or self-service. Mut'a can be design to be a step towards marriage.If they are of age, why not allow them do a proper nikkah however small, and set the conditions between them? What makes a proper nikkah other than proposal and acceptance, guardian’s consent, witnesses and mahr? Don’t get me wrong, the reason above makes sense, but I think a small nikkah is better of, at least, that is what is praised in the Qur’an and Hadiths… Yes indeed, the prophet (SAW) had nikkah which were for political, socio-economic and other reasons, some were specific for the Prophet (SAW) and all were permanent Nikkah…not to mention that are hadiths that encourages us to marry for all what the Qur'an enjoins...Mut'ah seems to be only for one reason, enjoyment of s.ex |
I am usually careful with such messages, mostly i edit a beneficial message, by removing all the threats and false information i know, sometimes, i try to find out about the source and then forward if true. Muslims should be careful about the messages they forward. There is this one that was usually spread by hardcopy and distributed at the Masjid but now spread by softcopy lol, the one about a sleeping Imam in meccah and dreaming of seeing the prophet, this one usually carries the threat signature always... May Allah guide us all ameen |
AlBaqir:I agree, most sunnis do not know about mut'ah, cos it is simply stated as forbidden, and hadith are quoted to buttress it. except if a person has really gone through learning about fiqh of marriage. @bold, Seriously? I can understand usermane making such comments, but not you. Qur'an 4:3 can easily nullify such claims, "what your right hand possesses" is in regards to marriage and nothing more. I have gone to the site, and read through the rulings, i have made some observation in my previous post. . |
AlBaqir:Interesting explanation, which I find lacking still and not convincing enough, for Imam Jafar Sidiq did not mention the reason for his stating that Ibn sinan shouldn't defile himself with mut'ah, nor did it bring a good enough proof to state that ibn sinan was already married. Ibn sinan being married is based on probability, an assumption, unless a clear proof is presented. The second narration of Ibn Yaqtin can still go with being married, thus, I ask, why is Mut'ah then given much pomp by the shias?! I have come across some narrations from shia books (posted online), praising Mut'ah, and even giving it such glorious status. From what I can infer from the two narrations, the two Imams, disliked it, and advised against it in the most distinct and clear terms to the two questioners. I don't think seeking to take a second wife can warrant such harsh remarks as can be found in this two narrations. If we go along with the fact that they were married, then, it limits mut'ah to only singles and maybe married men when they travel, and again, from what you had posted so far, it is also limited to those that cannot control their sexual urges, interestingly, you even mentioned it has never crossed your mind nor are you inclined to it, thus establishing that, mut'ah is a case of necessity. Do you agree? If yes, would it be out of place to liken mut'ah to eating pork for survival? Which I believe is a position held by some sahabas like Ibn Abbas but later convinced that it is haram forever? Ibn Abbas reported: Verily Mut'ah Marriage was in the beginning of Islam. A man used to go to a city wherein he had no acquaintance for him. So he used to marry a woman for a time which he considered good for his stay. She used to protect his goods for him and cook his food till this verse was revealed "except upon their wives or what their right hands possessed." Ibn Abbas said : Then every private part except of these two became unlawful. (Sunan Tirmidhi) Most relevantly a famed Shia work ‘Mustadrak-Again, I find the above really interesting, for I think the conditions as found in regards to mut'ah are quite repulsive to, and a mistreatment of women, which makes sense for it to be forbidden forever... one is that, I don't see myself as a father, a brother accepting and allowing mut'ah under my watch, heck I don't see any responsible father accepting such for his daughters... others are these: [b]2433. A woman with whom temporary marriage is contracted, is not entitled to subsistence even if she becomes pregnant. 2434. A woman with whom temporary marriage is contracted, is not entitled to share the conjugal bed of her husband, and does not inherit from him, and the husband, too, does not inherit from her. However, if one or both lay down a condition regarding inheriting each other, such a stipulation is a matter of Ishkal as far as its validity is concerned, but even then, precaution should be exercised by putting it into effect. 2435. If a woman with whom temporary marriage is contracted, did not know that she was not entitled to any subsistence and sharing her husband's conjugal bed, still her marriage will be valid, and inspite of this lack of knowledge, she has no right to claim anything from her husband. 2436. If a wife of temporary marriage goes out of the house without the permission of her husband, and the right of the husband is in anyway violated, it is haraam for her to leave. And if the right of her husband remains protected, it is a recommended precaution that she should not leave the house without his permission.[/b] The above are from http://www.sistani.org/english/book/48/2356/ I limit the conditions I have come across to the above, there are numerous conditions I have read online, which are really mind boggling, and they are reported from al kafi and other shia sources... Its like why is it called marriage in the first instance?! It goes against the Qur'anic injuction of love and mercy Allah placed between husband and wife, it sure is like a contract only for sex! And seems to only protect the man and the woman remains vulnerable. قال أمير المؤمنين صلوات الله عليه: ( حرم رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله يوم خيبر لحوم الحمر الأهلية ونكاح المتعة) انظر (التهذيب 2/186)، (الاستبصار 2/142) ، (وسائل الشيعة 14/441).Wasail Shiah, Istibsar and Tahzib. The above hadith is recorded in shia books, and reiterates mutah is forbidden by the Prophet (SAW), from my research, it has a good chain of narrators from ahl-l-bayt, it is narrated from the son of Imam Zeynul Abedeen, Zayd. Zayd narrates this Hadith from his fathers, in other words he narrates it from Imam Zeynul Abedeen, the fourth "imam" of 12 Imami shiahs, and he narrates from his father, Hussein ibn Ali, the son of Ali ibn Abi Talib. This hadith is also found in sunni books, and it is graded sahih, which I believe gives a strong backing to the fact that mut'ah is haram. I came across this hadith, which i think clarify that Umar (RA) did not forbade mut'ah by his own volition, but rather following the Prophet's orders.... Ibn Umar (ra) said that when Omar ibn Khattab (ra) became the Caliph he addressed the people and said: Verily, Allaah's Messenger (SAW) granted us the permission of temporary marriage three times. Then he declared it unlawful. By Allaah! I do not know any one contracting a temporary marriage while he is fortified by wedlock, but I shall stone him to death except that he presents four men who bear testimony that Allaah's messenger (SAW) made it lawful after he had made it unlawful. (Source: Sunan Ibn Majah, Chapter: Temporary Marriage) We can easily understand that, during the time of the Prophet (SAW) and the Sahabas(RA), there would be communication lapses, some will hear things, while others might not, it is not like our present day in which everyone can be contacted within seconds. Also, mut'ah is not really widespread, it is not an act that is practiced everyday, according to some narrations, it was only allowed during expeditions and the likes, its rulings can easily be forgotten and for the fact that permanent marriage is what is promoted in the Qur'an in numerous verses, and several Hadith of the Prophet (SAW). Applying our God given intellect brother, it wouldn't really take me quoting the whole kutub sitah before it is clear the flaws in mut'ah. Whether it is forbidden at khaybar, fathi makah or even during the time of Umar (ra), there is a strong evidence that it was forbidden by the Prophet (SAW), and Qur'an 4:24 can easily be explained without reference to mut'ah at all, which negates that it is an injunction for mut'ah by Allah (SWT), hence no need for abrogation of one verse by another. I hope you see reason with my submissions. |
@usermane, actually, i was referring to some modern day Muslim personalities, and my proof is from Tafsir Tabari, and i don't think it was written in recent times. I still strongly believe you need to learn the deen properly and from traditional sources in a dignified Masrasah. |
Assalam alaykum @ albaqir, can you please confirm and comment on these quotes? عن عبد الله بن سنان قال سألت أبا عبد الله عليه السلام عن المتعة فقال: (لا تدنس نفسك بـها) (بحار الأنوار 100/318). It was narrated by Abdullah Bin Senan said : I asked Abu Abdullah about Mut'ah and he said: "Don't defile yourself with it" (Bihaar Al-Anwar 100/318). ولما سأل علي بن يقطين أبا الحسن عليه السلام عن المتعة أجابه: ( ما أنت وذاك؟ قد أغناك الله عنها ) (الفروع 2/43)، الوسائل (14/449) Ali bin Yaqteen asked Aba Hassan about Mut'ah and he answered : "What is that and You (In Arabic it means what has that got to do with you) Allah had compensated you with something much better" (he meant legal marraige) (Furoo 2/43), (Wasael Al-shia 14/449). |
@Empiree, Islam frowns at illegal sexual intercourse, be it with a free woman, slave or servant. The verses in the Qur'an that talks about "your right hand possesses" can all be explained in terms of those who are allowed to be approached for marriage...I find it a little disturbing when such verses are translated in terms of cohabitation with slaves even by supposed knowledgeable personalities. This explanation can be found in tafsir tabari of Qur'an 4:24 |
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MUTA in Encyclopedia Topichttp://ismaili.net/heritage/node/10643 Well, to me, this is not an issue, firstly, it is a fiqh issue, and i find it rather a case of over-flogging an issue that is worth no significance in our present time. secondly, i stongly believe, in light of the spirit of Islam, that upholdes the sanctity of a Muslim man and woman relationship, Mutah defeats that sanctity. Thirdly, i do not see a correlation between mutah and polygyny, its like apples and oranges. Fourthly, i would like to ask, how is mutah marriage contracted and what are its conditions according to the shia? is there a wali? a witness? is there any form of written agreement? is it possible between two consenting adults only? if i am married, and i traveled, do i need to inform my wife about mutah? is it between Muslims or can be between a Muslim and a non-Muslim? I have a simple but intelligent response to mutah, well, it is a sunni perspective, and it makes perfect sense, correlating it with my previous quote... Question:http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-the-scholar/family/marriage/174789.html And Allah knows best. |
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Assalam alaykum, Ibn Qayyim rh said: A sin which leads one to submit (to Allah) is more preferable in the sight of Allah than a good deed which causes one to have pride. alfawaid p.122 I believe everyone has one struggle or the other in the path to fulfill his/her responsibilities. As a Muslim, the most important thing is never to allow ourselves to submit to the challenges we face in the path of Islam. The religion of Allah is easy, but the shaitan can make it look difficult with all the glamour in this world, but know that everything in this life is a test, you will fail some, and you will pass some, but never let the light of Islam die in your heart. In order not to let that happen, we learn about the religion, and practice it to the best of our ability, Allah (SWT) knows us more than ourselves, He never intended hardship for us, thus, know your level, strive to improve, take one step at a time, and everything would fall into place by His grace. I pray Allah assist each and everyone of us in this struggle ameen. |
Ma Sha Allah, a believer knows that only Allah can change destiny, and there is no other way to seek this change, except by Dua! Dua, is the weapon of a Muslim! Jazakumullahu khayran for sharing. |
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Words... Written words, Spoken words, Words that flow. Words that are false Words that belie Words that cut Words that pierce the soul deep Words that corrupt... Words that lifts the spirit Words that motivate and create Words that are gentle, cradling and kind Words that cleanse the soul free Words that are true Written words, Spoken words, Words that sow. Choose thy words wisely... |
Tbaba1234 and lanrexlan can you please add your poems, i never saved them before the Nairaland hack. Jazakumullahu khayran |
Who knows.....? By harmeenart Maybe she was too shy to initiate the teslim, but you never gave her a second glance Oh, she doesn't look Muslim who knows, you could have been her gateway to pristine Islam. Maybe He listens to music and still gives a handshake, So you feel you are better ‘cos you don't He might not even know it’s all wrong Who knows, You could be the source of his guidance Perhaps If the Prophet had neglected that Jewish boy Maybe he wouldn’t have died a Muslim And had he left the people of Ta’if Enveloped in between the mountains and buried underneath, Who would have thought their offspring could ever be pious? And who knows, If that one push would open the door of goodness for another And make him a better human But you are too arrogant, even in correcting others You feel better in status, arrogating piety to your person Nay, “Do not ascribe purity to yourselves, Only Allah knows those who have taqwa.” |
Where did his faith go? He remembers so vividly, When he was so young and bright, the zeal and enthusiasm were real. He felt the faith in him grow as the days go. He read the mushaf daily, memorized the verses, listened to the Word from voices that rendered it so heavenly. Words that drove him to tears... He felt the love in him, he felt he was special, he felt ontop of the world, nothing else matters, He hated the dunya, it was worthless like a fly's wing, his eyes were on the bigger prize. He longed for paradise... He stood in the early hours saying nawafils, seeking forgiveness until his eyes, swollen with tears. He fasted often, He practiced the sunnah, He was tagged a fundamentalist... Now if he looks in the mirror, a stranger he sees, Even though,him he saw, still, something big was missing... Where in the world did his faith go? Cought in the web of life, he had lost his step in this path, he became less mindful of his actions, he became dunyafied. He thought it cool, to get a little of the dunya, failing to realize, this world is just a phase, he would leave without being told. He seeks his faith, he missed is old self, he would give anything to have it back, only if it wasn't too late to seek... Oh dear muslims, The shaitan never stops in his quest to derail you,guard your faith passionately, remember;'shaitan has lost hope in derailing you with major sins, so be mindful of him in minor sins'. Seek Allah's assistance at every opportunity, He is always near and ready to accept you. Pray your 5 daily salawats in the masjid, be part of your community, work for Allah, Allah will never mislead you. Practice the sunnah, do as much as you can, never loose your identity, know, 'a strong muslim is more beloved to Allah than a weak muslim'. Your faith is your wealth, your faith is your weapon, your faith is your life, never lose it, never trade it for anything, never for the dunya! May Allah assist us as we struggle on the path of faith to attain eternal felicity amin. |
Seeking for the diamond This gatherings, numerous and scattered, they abound It had been foretold, a seventy three but one The one, the saved one So an analogy was illustrated Seventy three diamonds, all sparkling bright with intense lustre All glass except the one Which is the one? I am the one, says one, Nay, I am the one, says the other one And the claims, upon the lips of everyone Confused and perplexed the layman says Layman me only seek the worship of me lord Neither me is trained to seek diamonds Nor me with tools to distinguish a glass from diamond Then how does one distinguish a lie from the truth? How does one differentiate a glass from the diamond? Verily, the answers lie with the words of the chosen one The truthful one, the praiseworthy one Seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave, he had said, And during the farewell pilgrimage, he warned Hold on to Allah’s word and my sunnah, and you will never go astray, You will never pick a glass in place of the diamond And know, the one, is the diamond, So seek ye my beloved, Seek only for the diamond! |
The atheist There isn't a shred of evidence of a God I can't see this world's lord It's purely against intellectualism I believe in facts, scientific physicalism Evolution of man is absolute brilliance A single cell to such complex exuberance Isn’t that creatively outlandish? But I still believe, don’t be astonished We were brought about by chance Like the computer and electrical appliance? Nay, how can there be a creator Who created the man inventor? I'm a logical being I need facts, figures and seeing Like the black holes and dark matter? Or the evolutionary mutations of gigantic flatter? Lo and Behold science and man His black holes and dark matter plans Still, the origin not shown Still, the after earth unknown I strongly believe in scientific theories I might not know the end of their stories But they say, they may soon find the truth about the universe Perhaps after a million more years had traverse So I asked; Did Mecca happen by chance? And the Prophet go into a trance? Isn’t the message clear and fair? Believe in the creator and do not despair And if you ponder over these words Perhaps you may learn the truth about this world Your purpose is to serve the creator Just Like the invention of an inventor Don't let pride get in your way Don't let your intellect hold you prey It is very simple that you choose What have you got to lose? Believe in the God who created Created you and made you educated Educated you so you would know this instance Instantly know that this world was never created by chance |
How did they do it? Were they ever tempted? Did they ever fall short? Did they ever wonder and doubt? Why is my faith so weak? Did their women all wear Niqab? Did they all achieve their goals? Was the world any better? Or were they just simply better? Were they ever frightened by the might of the enemy? Or were they ever scared of speaking the truth? Were they this victimized? Were they superhuman? Were they very much and felt outnumbered? Did they dispute amongst themselves often as we do? Were they united? Did they all have a common goal? What did they do for leisure? Was it sports, music, poetry or folklore? Did they have more than a day and night? How come they did achieve so much? How come 24hrs seems so short? I’m going crazy here, How did the Sahabas do it? Where did we go wrong? Questions begging for sincere answers Do you know the answers? Note: Niqab: Veil Sahabas: Companions of the Prophet (SAW) |
Don’t pen these words down the heart warns Don’t pen these words down the heart warns A bitter truth, The wise say I tell without thought Even though the vultures may gather I tell, I seek freedom The truth revolves around the heart and soul Like the moon around the earth and sun And the full moon is nigh If you had listened, you would have seen Steady ears, settled heart, a true sight If only you had wanted to see If only I wanted you to see I longed for the truth to be told Sometimes timidly, I am bold I tarried, I worried then I belied The heart warns again Do not pen these words down Frightened with fright, I am Still haunted, I am But nay, today I shall pen these words down Cos the night is clear, the clouds had fled The full moon rises And the light, shining bright This day is my hijrah The truth has come I tell it loud and clear And I tell without fear And the truth..... Al-Islam!!! Learn The Truth About Islam Today! Get A Copy Of The Qur’an Today! Note: Hijra: Departure, exit or emigration. In Islam, it means the emigration of the Prophet Muhammed (SAW) from Mecca to Medina in 622 A.D. it also signifies the beginning of our calendar or era. Technically, it can also mean emigrating from a difficult/uncomfortable/sinful place or state of mind to that which is better, favorable and good. |
I Am A Muslim I can be a monster, the devil himself, There is so much evil I can possibly do, But, I’ll rather be an angel, Nay, a human, a man who is envied and respected by the angels. The world is my stage; my power knows no limit; Everything on earth, to me, subservient; Still, I am just, balanced, never to the extremes, For I rule by the sharia; the law divine. I am me in front of a tyrant, When faced with adversity or great misfortune, I show no fear nor grieve For I have faith and I pray. I am patient and calm, Sometimes, docile as a dove; For I have been told; Success is for those who patiently preserve. I am a lion, Bold and fierce, My enemies quiver at my presence, Yet, I show compassion... Even though I am being misrepresented by unscrupulous few, I remain true; Dedicated to the truth. I am a part of a new world order, One which guarantees a lasting peace to planet earth. Who am I? You ask... I am a Muslim, One who submits to the creator With hope and fear of meeting with Him at the end of the day. |
Assalam alaykum brothers and sisters, Having read some good poetry recently, i decided to recreate this topic, even though i should have done so earlier.... I believe most people do have something to write, but are not willing to write or share, perhaps, they are shy (like me sometimes), perhaps they are just plain lazy (like me again!) ![]() So lets learn about the deen, inspire and motivate spirituality, and most importantly, lets do da'wah in the most amazing way.... Poetic Da’wah and other Da’wahtic writings In the name of Allah the creator, May His Peace and Blessings be upon the noble prophet Muhammad (SAW), his household, and his companions and upon us all ameen. Allah says in the glorious Qur’an: “who is better in speech than one who calls to Allah, does righteous deeds and says indeed I am among the Muslims” (Quran 41 vs. 33) “you are the best nation raised up for mankind, you enjoin what is good and forbid what is bad and you believe in Allah” (Quran 3 vs. 110) “Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong; they are the ones to attain felicity.” (Qur’an 3 vs. 104) Narrated Abu Hurayrah ra “Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: He who called (people to righteousness, there would be reward (assured) for him like the rewards of those who adhered to it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who called (people) to error, he shall have to carry (the burden) of its sin, like those who committed it, without their sins being diminished in any respect.” (Sahih Muslim) This thread, as the title implies, is basically about da’wah. Initially, I wanted it to be only about poetry, but I observed that most people do not find poetry fascinating. Therefore, the idea is to share poetry, as well as any form of writing, written by you or anyone else, which connotes da’wah, something that will rekindle our faith as well as invite people to this beautiful way of life. NB. Da’wah is an Arabic word which simply means call or invitation, in Islam; it means to invite people to Islam or inviting to good and righteous deeds. It is one of the responsibilities of a Muslim. The prophet (SAW) was reported to have said; “convey from me, even it be only a single verse” (Sahih al Bukhari) I shall begin with poetry, which I had earlier posted on this section ma sha Allah and will subsequently add more in sha Allah. I look forward to everyone’s contributions |
Words to reflect and ponder on.... Al – Hasan Al-Basri-Allah have mercy on him- said: “When a man sought knowledge, it would not be long before it could be seen in his humbleness, his sight, upon his tongue and his hands, in his prayer, in his speech and in his disinterest (zuhd) in worldly allurements. And a man would acquire a portion of knowledge and put it into practice, and it would be better for him than the world and all it contains-if he owned it he would give it in exchange for the hereafter.” Ibn Al-Mubarak, Al-Zuhd wa Al-Raqa'iq Vol. 1 p. 156. “The closer you come to the DEEN that much more you are supposed to become courteous, kind, generous, understanding and forgiving of others. That's what you are supposed to be.” Nouman Ali Khan v |
@usermane, This is the link to the pdf file of the book al-mostafa.info/data/arabic/depot/gan.php?file=000027-www.al-mostafa.com.pdf |
tbaba1234: Another example:Absolutely, there is the possibility of stating what they heard and learnt from the Prophet (SAW), and just relating to others without including his name. |
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