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tbaba1234: I have heard similar stories as well but I would say, it is the other way round most times.

Indeed, the case I mentioned is the exception to what is generally observed in such marriages.

vedaxcool: unah no go kill person for nl! Me self I go post thread about one e-disease wey I discover!

bros, no be small something o

bntY: @sino,dt is a good literary work. I'm tempted to ask: Are you an health professional?

Thank you bntY, and no I am not.

There is this case of a woman I know in my hood, a Muslimah and she got married to a Christian, an igbo man, for that matter. I don't know her reasons for marrying him, but today the man is now a Muslim and the wife now uses a jilbab.
The above is in no way meant to encourage this kind of marriage, in fact, aside Islam does not approve of it, I strongly dislike it.
A better approach which I believe is also dicey, is that if a non Muslim proposes marriage to a Muslimah, then the condition must be acceptance of Islam wholeheartedly. But how can one know of the sincerity of such a man?

And nice to have you back deols

ty444: Is this real or just a jurk of rubbish

Ever heard of the word "parody" ?

Islamophobia

This is a medical condition which is widely spread across different classification of human, but most prevalent in modern times, amongst a subset of non-Muslims who have isolated themselves from adequate knowledge, proper living and wellbeing.

History:
According to historical evidences available at the time of this publication, some scientist postulated that, the origin of this deadly disease can first be traced to the devil, for indeed, he happens to be the embodiment of all kind of ailments and evil diseases...It was recorded of his extreme pride and perpetual hate for mankind.

Others postulated that the origin was evidently amongst the polytheist, from time immemorial, especially during the time of Abraham the father of monotheism.

However, it should be noted that, from either angle you look at it, Islamophobia is not a new medical condition, but indeed has an ancient history.

Types of Islamophobia:
There are basically 3 different types of this disease, and with varying levels of complexity and severity

The types include;
1. Type 1 Islamophobia: this happens to be the mildest of the different types found in humans, ordinary informative therapy procedure (OIT) has been proven effective by scientist especially in the field of da’wah therapy. Patients have shown remarkable recovery as well as embracing the path to a successful and healthy living.

2. Acute Islamophobia (type 2): as the name implies, acute Islamophobia is a more severe medical condition. Ordinary informative therapy has been proven only 50% effective; it requires the expertise and strategically modification by the da’wah team to combat this disease.

3. Islamophobic cancer (type 3): this is as a result of untreated acute Islamophobia, it is a type of intracranial neoplasm and it is malignant, it majorly affects the limbic system which deals with emotion as well as the frontal lobe which deals with intellect.

This condition is rarely treated by OIT, there are reported cases were patients suffering from this condition attacking the da’wah team, both physically and otherwise. It has therefore been categorically stated in the ultimate da’wah manual (i.e. Qur'an) to avoid such patients except in cases of metastasis whereby they are restrained and treated by surgical operation.

Signs and Symptoms
Some of these symptoms can also be as a result of other medical conditions, but should be noted that having one of these symptoms is an indication of suffering from Islamophobia. These symptoms include:

1. Excessive convulsion when Islam or Muslims are mentioned

2. having unfounded hate for Islam and Muslims especially hating anything that is linked to Islam such as Islamic banking, Islamic morals, Islamic section of Nairaland, Islamic marriage, Islamic law etc.

3. Hating a Muslim woman for putting on the Hijab, a Muslim man wearing a beard

4. Hallucination, especially after being thoroughly analyzed and diagnosed of suffering from Islamophobia. It has been reported that this form of symptom, happens to be a kind of defense mechanism adopted by the patient.

5. The urge to always say or type bad things about Islam and Muslims on social media especially on Facebook and Nairaland

6. Compulsive abusive attitude towards God and His messenger (SAW)

7. Complete or partial Paralysis on seeing a Muslim achieving great success and making the world a better place

8. Impaired objective and logical analysis and reasoning once it has to do with Islam and Muslims

9. Compulsive pontification disorder (CPD). This happens majorly due to hallucination; patients tend to see themselves as authority on Islamic texts and principles

10. Hypertensive and nervous breakdown especially on meeting a knowledgeable Muslim

11. Acute Headache anytime and every time Islam is mentioned

12. Conjuring and spreading false information about Islam and Muslims at will (lying)

13. Loss of appetite, nausea and insomnia on learning about the growth of Islam and conversion rate all over the world

14. Dementia

15. Selective amnesia especially when confronted with facts and superior arguments

16. Hypocrisy and many more...


Causes and Risk factors:
There are numerous causes of this deadly disease, scientist worldwide in different da’wah research institute, are still at awe how such a condition which is not found in a person on a normal routine checkup, can easily manifest in that person within a twinkle of an eye...some of the causes include but not limited to

1. Poor metabolism of the truth i.e. hatred for the truth

2. Pride disease (PD)

3. Induced information misnomer (IIM)

4. Necrosis and unregulated apoptosis of the logical cells in the brain

5. Exposure to Islamophobic Mutagens such as anti-Islamic websites, books etc.

6. Over expression and up-regulation of hate binding protein (HBP) in the brain as a result of poor or bad inductive reasoning

7. The bandwagon syndrome

8. Indoctrination leading to encephalopathy

9. Psychological disorders

10. Victim of an extremist rage (it should be noted that this account for less than 2% of the risk factors).

Diagnosis
Majorly, diagnosis is done by observing and interrogating the patient to ascertain his current symptoms and level of complexity. Clinical and laboratory investigation are also carried out especially when it is feared that the patient might be suffering from acute Islamophobia or Islamophobic cancer so as to ascertain the degree of damage already done to the body.


Treatment
1. Ordinary informative therapy (OIT) which employs the gradual introduction of the cure (truth) in a dose dependent approach by certified da’wah physicians, eliminating the disease bit by bit until total eradication from the system.

2. Enhanced Ordinary informative therapy (EOIT), due to the severity of the type 2 and cancer type Islamophobia, researchers at the Center for Da’wah Research and Development (CDRD) developed a new procedure called EOIT. This approach employs targeting the root causes and risk factors, for example the attacking the sources of Islamophobic mutagens by creating enough anti mutagens and introducing it into the system i.e. Islamic websites, TV shows, books etc.

Although, this procedure is still not comprehensive enough, but recent studies have showed effective cure in the type 1, 50% in type 2 and less than 10% in the type 3 Islamophobia.

3. Also, Da’wah Scientists have not ruled out surgery pending the final outcome of ongoing stem cell research, especially for the type 3 if and when they start metastasis (spreading and causing evil in the land).

Prognosis
As already stated earlier, chances of recovery are high in type 1, while type 2 and the cancer type have proven difficult to treat.

It is well established that, the only source of recovery for these cases (type 2 and 3) is by miracle, and the self awareness and fight of the patient to sincerely seek a lasting cure.

It should be noted that, untreated Islamophobia leads to an excruciating death.

Assalam Alaykum brothers and sisters,

Alhamdulilah, all praise is to Allah, that we now have our topics from this section visible to signed-in members on the front page.

I thank those brothers and sisters, especially mclantunji, tbaba, vedaxcool,lanrexlan, who never relent in seeking that justice be established, may Allah reward you all abundantly.

Special thanks to seun and mukina2 for yielding to our request; hopefully, we would understand ourselves better than before.

While reading through some of the topics that made fp from this section, I couldn’t help but notice the trend exhibited by some non-Muslims, well, it is not new, but I guess the obscurity of topics to members made it seem there was a change.
So while basking in my musings, an idea came though humorous, I believe carries a lot of truth.

I sincerely look forward to a change…

jazakumullahu khayran bro, really a good read.

The story has been the same, creating a character based on stereotype as well as poor understanding of Islam.

Like the writer, i was also excited by a recent story of a superhero (Burka Avenger) also female, created by some "westernized" pakistani, whose funding for the project was from an unknown western investor.

What really appalled me eventually was the lady only dresses in burka when she is going to fight the village 'boko harams', and when she goes to class to teach, she doesn't even wear a headscarf! How do one reconcile this with Islam baffles me.

The other issue is the target audience, i still wonder what impact this is going to make on the islamophobes who grew up loving spiderman, iron man and the likes, and hate anything Islam. Are they to learn and love Islam through this?

Well, i do appreciate their wanting to portray a muslim superhero, but they should please try and quit the stereotypes and focus on working within the Islamic principles.

On a lighter note, the title is interesting o, i can just imagine the shock and the backlash...i'll suggest for DC comics to also follow suit, superman converting to Islam and crowning it with a Nikkah with Lois Lane

Jazakumullahu khayran bro for sharing your poetry, indeed its a good reminder.

I love poetry, even though i'm not versed in it, i like the way you employed rhymes in some of your verses...while reading, i got an impression of a rap kind of...(which is cool to me, especially if it was a performance 'spoken-word')

Still, i agree with zayhal on the use of shorthands, i almost wasn't interested in reading, so i implore you to make appropriate corrections on your poetry, space the verses or lines or group them in stanza if you like, so that people can appreciate your work and benefit immensely from it.

Looking forward to more bro.

Allah speaks the truth, and the truth is universal...

Anyone who seeks the truth should embrace it wherever he finds it.

Islam has got the truth about life, its origin, its purpose and destination or end.

Alhamdulilah i'm a Muslim.

Deen4me: As I was waiting for my client I took a moment to think of this incident and I said to myself Subhana Allah….the way he was begging me with eyes full of hope, I could not say No to him, even though I wanted to and even though I could …… then I asked myself a question: Why don’t we ask Allah SWT the same way?!!! Why don’t we go to him begging for what we want with eyes full of tears and with so much hope?!!

If I am only human and the Mercy I have is considered one from hundred Mercies as in the Hadith:

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There are one hundred (parts of) mercy for Allah and He has sent down out of these one part of mercy upon the jinn and human beings and the insects and it is because of this (one part) that they love one another, show kindness to one another and even the beast treats its young one with affection, and Allah has reserved ninety nine parts of mercy with which He would treat His servants on the Day of Resurrection.

Can you imagine how the Most Merciful will respond if you ask him like that and he has the rest of the 99 mercies in store for you?!! Subhana Allah….indeed he is the most merciful…… this man begged me in a way a young strong man wouldn’t beg and he begged me for what? For a train fare……he begged that much for a train fare!!? How many major things do we need from Allah SWT? And yet we don’t take the time to sincerely beg him….. I asked myself over and over and I could not find an answer………………. I could not find an answer why we hardly make dua when we pray?...... Why when we make dua we are absent minded? Why when we make dua to the only one who can give us what we want we doubt the answer?

Jazakumullahu khayran Deen4me for sharing this...

The part quoted above really got to me, it encompasses a lot of lessons we can all learn, and the most important(to me) being; Islamic spirituality.

If we really have that strong belief in Allah(SWT), we would beg Him to grant our dua's just as the stranded man did. Its so funny how we beg our fellow human being for our needs but feel reluctant to make dua to Allah the owner of the worlds after our daily prayers.

We need to build our spirituality, cos therein lies the key to success in this life and the next.

Jazakumullah khayran for sharing bro.

From Allah we came and verily to Him shall be our return.

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss mac, may Allah forgive him his shortcomings, put His Nur in his grave and grant him firdaus ameen.

keep holding up bro, Allah will always be there for you and your family...

Welcome back.

This is deeply touching, messages like this makes me sober, these are Allah's slaves just like you and me, do we really care about those who are suffering?

Even if we cannot donate a dollar or two, even if we cannot forsake our comfort for the front lines, at least, we can always remember them in our dua's, in the earliest of dawn, when Allah(SWT) keenly listens to our plea.

Oh Allah, help us against our oppressors, help the weak amongst us, help the strong amongst us who strive with their all in your path, forgive the dead amongst us and the living, for you are the oft-forgiving most merciful. Ameen.

Even though i have a phobia for snakes, i wouldn't mind trying this out if the opportunity comes me way...

The feeling of a cold, soft, scaly, smoothly, slithering movement all over me body ooooh! whata feeling!

F00028: @sino
it's not even compulsory to get married at all
...but if you are gonna marry then look to the life of your Prophet [pbuh] and his companions and see how they practiced that ayah. that's your best exegesis.

Brother, i understand your point, the prophet(SAW) married more than one wife, so did some of his sahabas. I believe (to the best of my knowledge) there isn't proper documentation in regards to the sahabas and the number of wives they had, and i also believe that some sohabas only married just one.

We cannot compare marrying more than one and marriage itself, since the latter has a strong message from the prophet(SAW). The prophet was reported to have said, "Nikkah is my sunnah, whoever renegades my sunnah is not part of me"-indeed, there can be some valid reasons for one to abandon marriage- while the former doesn't.

The life of the Prophet(SAW) and his companions, teaches us a lot, and that is why and how we learn about the sababun nuzul of some chapters and verses of the Qur'an. If you read the preceding verse, you would clearly see Allah(SWT) is talking about orphans and doing justice in regards to them. It wasn't really about marriage per se, but scholars have been able to derive from this verse and other hadiths, injuction(permisibility) to marry more than one wife and its maximum number.

I don't really think we need to bother ourselves on this issue, i believe it is a matter of choice, we have the privilege to choose between 2 permisible options.
And Allah(SWT) knows best.

F00028: you guys need to go read the verse again!

marrying one wife is the exception, not the rule. an exception for those who are incapable if doing justice. so sticking to one wife for those who able is not really a good quality for an imam.

I don't quite agree with you bro.

The exegesis of the verse indicates the permisibilty of marrying 2, 3 or even 4 in lieu of marrying an orphan placed in your custody...

As rightly stated by tbaba, it isn't compulsory to marry more than one wife, and in no way will marrying just one wife diminish the qualities of an Imam even if he is capable of marrying more than one.

I guess their society then dictated why they had to put this criterion, we can't really fault them, it is still acceptable islamically.

Erm bro, is this ad, for a masjid Imam or for a university prof?

Well, the masjid would definitely be a prominent one, and knowing the role of the masjid in an Islamic state, one would understand the reasons for these critaria.

Again, these critaria, further shows the emphasis placed on proper knowledge and education for those who would attain a position of leadership in the society during this period.

I hope we can still redeem ourselves, get to a level such as this, where we are enlightened enough to choose the right leaders for the right positions in this country.


And No. 6 on the list is quite amusing lol

Nice! May Allah Accept it from both of you as an act of ibadah ameen.

Yes o, with the price tag on these rams ehn, na to just package and get enough chickens lol

What of a case where you are offered a non-interest loan to be deducted from your salary?
In some organizations, rams and other items are bought by management and if you are interested, you can apply for them, you would pay back with your salary

maclatunji: Don't go and commit o.

bros, no worry, i still dey in control. lol.

Good info here,

Now picture this...

Going on Hajj with your spouse immediately after nikkah!

Perfect!

Sino daydreams...

^^^

It really hurts you that i exposed your ignorance? Don't worry, better luck next time, and please when next you want to post anything regarding science(especially biological sciences), think deeply of your inane reasonings you employed on this thread. Thank you!

My work is done here!

NL member: Did you spend all day looking up that information on genetics?


Thanks for the unnecessary copy and paste job on the definition of genetic disorders and birth defects. However, I was not looking for the definitions so thanks for nothing.

there is what is called life outside of nairaland, i extensively make use of it.
You sure you didn't need it? you were wallowing in ignorance i had to help.

NL member: Also, you stated in the post below that only in a case where there is genetic defects do consanguinous marriages lead to problematic births


That statement is very ambiguous. Genetic defects where? Are the genetic defects manifesting or are they simply present in recessive genes?
You didn't clarify this, you simply made a vague statement about presence of genetic defects then you come back here to claim that you were right along with your declaration and you are basically saying the same thing I wrote.

I'm sorry it is ambiguous to you, i assumed i was communicating with someone who has a good background in biological sciences, especially, molecular biology and genetics, one who knows that genetic defect is one of the causes of birth defect irregardless of being dominant or recessive in the parents, now i know better

NL member: Water purification has been going on for ages because people have always been aware of the dangers of consuming impure water. There are areas in the world where either due to poverty or nonchalance the water isn't purifies but that does not mean those in past generations didn't have knowledge about
the necessity of purifying water. Rea more on ancient water purification methods here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_water_filters

I was talking about disease causing microbes present in water bodies which was impossible to detect 1400years ago, you goofed, accept it and move on, i got no time explaining what pure water entails...

NL member: Its most certainly the former. Considering the fact you made an ambiguous statement about genetic defects in your last post, you are obviously prone to making your points with vague ambiguous statements that are impossible to understand..

it might be the latter, considering the fact that you kept on arguing ignorantly about the cause of birth defect. I believe you now know better

NL member: Firstly, you didn't bring up the issue of abortion in Nigeria; I did. Secondly, In many countries where abortion is illegal (Nigeria for example) a pregnant mother is not allowed to abort her child simply because it would manifest health problems. The only exception where abortion is allowed is where the pregnancy puts the life of the mother at risk so your point is moot.

Why don't you try and understand before jumping into conclusion? my initial post on abortion was basically on a fatwa that permits it, fatwas are for Muslims, if we are to go by your statistics, these Muslim countries are likely to implement this fatwa....

on a more larger scale, it is a sound option for parents as well as the society at large to apply this, knowing fully well that it is based on serious health issues...i can list disadvantages that will not only affect the baby or its parents, but the society at large...isn't it wise to follow this option?

NL member: Yawn.
Repitition of what we have already been through on this thread.
It is now obvious that you are simply arguing just for the sake of arguing.
You have mentioned compatibility testing as a solution and I told you there are poor people who cannot afford the tests and there are illiterate people who are unaware of the tests so your 'solution' has its own limitations.
I also mentioned that for centuries while cousin marriage was taking place, these tests had not been discovered and a lot of children were born defective and suffered as a result.. Again let me ask you sino;
Why did allah grant permission for an act that doubles the risk of a child being born defective?
Why did he not prohibit cousin marriage all together to reduce the risk of birthing those children who would suffer their entire lives because their parents are related?

see i don't have time for your belligerence, didn't you read that awareness are being made? or is this also ambiguous for you to decipher? okay let me help you, awareness are being made to people the risk involved, there are a centers scattered over the middle east that are catering for this, testing are carried out if you want.

NL member: Stick your prayer where the sun don't shine
I have no use for it.

I will continue to pray for you, i sincerely hope you change for the better

Congratulations Oga Jarus for a successful conference, you are indeed inspiring...

May Allah continue to guide you ameen.

NL member: I am not going to waste anymore time on this because this isn't what my thread is about. Feel free to believe whatever you like on the matter.

LOL…

What causes birth defects?

Birth defects have a variety of causes, such as:
Genetic problems caused when one or more genes doesn't work properly or part of a gene is missing
Problems with chromosomes, such as having an extra chromosome or missing part of a chromosome
Environmental factors that a woman is exposed to during pregnancy, such as rubella or German measles while pregnant, or using drugs or alcohol during pregnancy.

http://www.medicinenet.com/birth_defects/page2.htm

A genetic disorder is an illness caused by one or more abnormalities in the genome, especially a condition that is present from birth (congenital). Most genetic disorders are quite rare and affect one person in every several thousands or millions.
Genetic disorders are heritable, and are passed down from the parents' genes. Other defects may be caused by new mutations or changes to the DNA. In such cases, the defect will only be heritable if it occurs in the germ line. The same disease, such as some forms of cancer, may be caused by an inherited genetic condition in some people, by new mutations in other people, and by nongenetic causes in still other people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_disorder

NL member: Where are you getting your ridiculous scientific facts from? Who is telling you these things? ?!?
So its only if there is genetic defect in the parents that consanguinous marriages would lead to problematic childbirth? Did you even read what you wrote before you posted it?
Child defects arising from consanguinous marriages are due to the mating of two parents with genes that are similarly recessive for the disease the child is born with. There is no manifesting genetic defect in the parent because the genes for the defect are recessive, the genetic defect would only manifest if the genes are dominant and not recessive.
When two parents with similar recessive genes for a particular defect mate, the resultant embryo gains two recessive genes from each parent and two recessive genes combined always gives a dominant gene. Since the unborn child inherits two recessive genes from both parents and thus ends up with a dominant gene, the child is born with manifesting or obvious genetic defects unlike the parents.
This is basic genetics that we were taught in secondary school.
Furthermore, the likelyhood of cousins giving birth to children with defects is increased due to the fact that they are closely related and as such have similar dominant and recessive genes.
If an unrelated couple gets married, there would be varying recessive genes and thus it is far less likely for the couple to have a child with genetic defects.

Consanguinity and Autosomal Recessive Disorders
In mathematical terms, consanguinity does not alter the allele frequencies of common disorders, but increases the probability of a mating between two individual heterozygotes for the same recessive mutant allele. In this regard, the risk for birth defects in the offspring of first-cousin marriage is expected to increase sharply compared to non- consanguineous marriages particularly for rare autosomal recessive disease genes, because for common recessive conditions, there is a high chance that the abnormal gene may be carried by unrelated spouses and may be expressed in their progeny

http://www.reproductive-health-journal.com/content/pdf/1742-4755-6-17.pdf

mind you, I did not state that the disorder or defect would have to manifest in the parents before they can produce birth defective children. What I said which is still the same with what you have written is that, only if there is a case of genetic defect would consanguineous marriage lead to birth defects…genetic defects can be dominant or recessive(with all the prefix you can add lol)…

Now go back to my initial post on this thread and read carefully…

NL member: Please stop this, I've had it with your talk of unrelated diseases ie malaria and LDL. The issue here is why cousin marriage is likely to be the cause of birth defects in muslim countries.

Okay, now I get it, you have no business with biological sciences; you just go copy and paste.

NL member: Human beings had their senses to guide them back then when they were drinking water from wells and streams, it was obvious and a well known fact that drinking impure water can lead to health problems so even if they drank from wells and streams, they also took measures to avoid drinking contaminated water.
Muslims in the time of the prophet did not know that cousin marriage increases the risk of birth defects and they didn't have anyway to test for compatibility so there was no way they could have protected their children from having birth problems which cousin marriage significantly increases.
why didn't Allah protect them by giving them the means? Why put permission in place for a rule that doubles the risk of children being born abnormal?

Did you write this? SMH, so you are telling me that 1400 years ago, it was obvious and a fact that drinking impure water can lead to health problems, they actually can differentiate water contaminated with micro organisms?

In Nigeria here, go to the villages and see people drinking water that if tested, you would put the whole community under quarantine.
Hope you have a well at home; just use these senses that guided them over 1400 years ago to guide yourself in drinking “pure” water.

You keep giving me reasons not to take you serious at all SMH.

NL member: You are the one that doesn't get it.
You said abortion can be used as a means of preventing birth of defective children and I told you that abortion is illegal in many countries, you then switched to saying that abortion is allowed when the mother's life is at risk and then I told you that is not possible for the mother's life to be at risk because of defects from cousin marriage
Now you have startes talking about how concerted efforts are everywhere and researches are going on and so on and so forth.
You suggested a wrong solution to the problem please face it and stop changing the subject.

It is either I didn’t present it so you can understand or you have issues with comprehension

I brought up the case of abortion in Nigeria to show that for health reasons (in this case the life of the mother), abortion is allowed, hence, a fetus that has a genetic disorder can be allowed to be aborted (before 120days) in countries where it is illegal based on health reasons that might manifest if the baby is delivered…

All the suggestion I have brought up, in preventing birth defects are sound and some are already being put to use, You have failed to refute them, what you have done is just to show your hasty reasoning and conclusions, all you wanted to do was to paint Islam bad. OP, you are suffering from a conc. Islamophobic disorder, I pray it’s not congenital.Ameen

NL member: For the love of peace, if it doubles the risk of a problem them it IS the cause of the problem when children who would otherwise have been born healthy are born with defects because of the exposed risk, why in heaven's name is this hard for you to understand?.

Mr man, we are talking science here, causes of diseases are not based on silly assumptions, rather they are based on facts! Proper investigations employing all necessary scientific approach. No sane scientist would agree with this your conclusion.
It's like saying malaria is caused by sleeping outside in surulere, it is ludicrous!

NLmember: Rubbish.
Only high levels of LDL cholesterol in the body can cause heart problems, high levels of Ldl cholesterol was not prescribed
in the quran as a diet for muslims so this is a stupiid analogy.
Cousin marriage which in itself doubles the risk of birth defects was prescribed to muslims by allah so they are not the same thing.
Don't bring up silly points just because you don't want to agree with me, I don't have time to waste repeating the same points to you.

I know you wouldn't get it, only if there is a case of genetic defect would consanguineous marriage lead to birth defects. It's about the fact that something which isn't naturally bad and has its benefits can easily turn into something perilous, this can be as a result of factors brought about by nature itself or by man.
Scientist are still bewildered about some mutations, why it happens and why it is inheritable e.g some cancers...

Learning about these things is one of the mercies of Allah, you either appreciate it or deny it, your choice!
Do you know that children born with g6pd are not prone to malaria? Isn't this another avenue towards research to find solution to malaria? You are just a small piece in the mega events and happenings in the universe. There are some reasons for things happening which is just byond your pay grade

NLmember: Did I say cousin marriage prevented them from living their lives? Did I say it prevented some of them from getting married and having children? What I said is that it can lead to having children birth defects so stop making useless observations.

They are not useles observations, Allah didn't prohibit drinking water from wells and streams or did He? Knowing fully well that there can be harmful microbes in it leading to diseases that can kill, But what is obtainable now? Didn't they live their lives then?

I repeat, Islam makes it permisible and not mandatory, there is room for contingencies...

NLmember: More nonsense to waste my time.
Your diagnostic tests were not available for a long time after the prophet told you allah approved cousin marriage so a lot of harm has already been done since many children have been born with defects because their parents were related.
Diagnostic tests can not afforded by poor muslim cousins who want to marry and they are useless in cases where the couple is illiterate and don't know of these tests.
Why did allah not prohibit cousin marriage altogether instead of prescribing it to muslims knowing fully well that many of them will have kids with birth defects
because they are related?

You still don't get it, concerted efforts are being made to create awareness, research is still ongoing...Birth defect is a global issue, it happens everywhere...it's a disease just like any other.
It cannot be eradicated by prohibiting cousin marriage, according to your stats, it can only be reduced by half so what is your fuss?

NLmember: Serious birth defects that arise from cousin marriage can never lead to death of the pregnant mother, they can either lead to infant mortality or cause lifelong mental/physical etc disability for the child.

True, and it is a better option to abort it in its earliest stage, No sane person would disagree with this opinion! Or do you?

NL member: Cousin marriage doubles the risk of birth defects in children.
Since there is increased chances of otherwise healthy children being born with birth defects, it can be said that cousin marriage is the cause of birth defects in children who have been exposed to that risk factor.

I absolutely disagree, you just trying to be evasive of the fact that you spewed a fallacy, causes of birth defects have been researched, consanguinity is not the cause!

NL member: It is not compulsory but it was prescribed right? Why would Allah prescribe a practise that doubles the risk of children being born with abnormalities?
Why not prohibit cousin marriage altogether to avoid the increased risk of birth defects?

Yes it was prescribed, there were/are advantages and benefits, some being socioeconomic etc...
You can as well ask why not remove LDL-Cholesterol from our system since it can lead to heart diseases...do non-consanguineous marriages produce some birth defects too? no?
You write as if once cousins get married, they must have offspring with birth defects...

NL member: Were these diagnostic procedures in place during the time of the prophet? Were they in place during the time the quran was revealed?
Your solution makes no sense because until recently there was no way to test intending couples for genetic compatibility and a lot of children had already been negatively affected by consanguinity before the testing procedures were discovered.
Even presently many related couples who either cannot afford the tests or are unaware of it, would go ahead and have children regardless of how compatible they are so testing is useless in such cases.

I am also sure that state of the art medical facilities were not available during the life time of the Prophet(saw), did that prevent them from living their lives? did that prevent them from marrying and getting pregnant and safe deliveries?
you look around you with all sophisticated gadgets and you think you are on top of the world right? no other generation had a good life? even in this part of the world, we were told how our earlier generation lived with less illness as we have prevalent in our modern world.

the reality during the time of the Prophet(saw) dictates the way they lived their lives, our reality is quite different, but the principles that guide us are unique and universal.

NL member: Genetic testing cannot be suggested as a solution to this problem unless you show me where it is written in the specifically in the hadith or quran that cousins must make sure they get tested before marriage so as to avoid problems with foetal development.

come on mate, do you want everything to be spelled out in the Qur'an and hadith before you can comprehend? I quoted a verse of the Qur'an which enjoins us not to cause harm to ourselves, didn't you see that?

NL member: And you mentioned abortion; many countries in the world have not legalized abortion; Nigeria included, so abortion is a no go area in such countries and is useless a a preventive measure against this problem.

Please read what i wrote properly, once it's proven that the fetus is carrying a severe genetic disorder, it is allowed for it to be aborted(it's a fatwa that can be employed in these Muslim countries), even Nigeria allows abortion if the pregnancy would endanger the mother's life.
It is not useless, it can prevent further expression of a genetic disorder, once the fetus is screened and found free of the genetic disorder.