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Rotflmao! There is nothing sadder and funnier than a patsy who starts believing in his own press.

You guys berra leave Igwe1 alone oh! Don't you know he is the Patron Saint of brainless car buyers! Without him, they will twisting like broken kites in the wind.

Sure, Sure. . . they are probably adults seeing as they are buying cars but that doesn't count here.

Please don't let the fact that they are good at making their own decisions and have done so for the better part of their lives deceive you.

When it comes to buying cars online, these SENSIBLE ADULTS with SOUND DECISION MAKING SKILLS become complete retards, babes in the woods, brainless and clueless mugus who need Igwe1.

So y'all berra recognize and join me in hailing Igwe1, the man who doesn't know when to say. . . WHEN!!

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Enigma:
Yes Pastor Aio, I agree.

I always thought that even if Kunle used a wrong choice of words in saying "it is wrong to tithe", his real point is much clearer. Indeed while the onus is on him to express himself accurately, I think his greater point is much clearer and could have been easily comprehended by an objective reader.

I think the fundamental point does remain: that the continued yoke and burden being placed on misguided or misinformed (or even uninformed) Christians by most modern teachings on "tithing" really need to be challenged vigorously and continuously. One should not allow semantics or nit-pickings regarding choice of words and pedantic gyrations to divert attention away from this real and pressing matter.

Of course if someone, having the full facts and understanding them, chooses to "tithe" in the way that it is taught predominantly today, that is their choice and they should not necessarily be castigated. However, it is a different matter where people are deceived, bullied or abused into succumbing to false superstitions (i.e. blessing and/or curse), mostly with the aim of fleecing them.

Couldn't agree more!!!!

And I doubt those who have the full facts and understanding yet still choose to tithe, will feel castigated.

JJYOU:
gospel of self and flesh abi?

Lmao! I don't know oooh. I got that from the exalting writeup.

Seriously though, for an 18 yrs old. . . he's got an impressive resume.

Take away the maybe minister factor, he IS a good role model!

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Perhaps?

From the person who shot the video.

Yeah, a simple Sorry or excuse me would have just done it.

Africans and Agidi. . . God help us.

j-girl:
LOL!
It's no excuse. Midnight shift or whatever. See the way they were shouting now!
Ah ahn, after this video (ON YOUTUBE O!), how will i open my mouth to call myself Nigerian to someone who's seen it?
It's not bad enough that the guy said he's Gambian. What is worse is that the guy in orange actually sounds like he's right. . . the guy may actually be a Gambian but even I'm beginning to believe that the idiot is actually Nigerian (slowpoke Number 11? - I won't even attack the abuses now)
Shouting #1, 2, 3 as if he just learnt to count.  

Rotflmao!! Oh my God! I can't stop laughing. . .

1, 2, 3. . . say it with me, you are all (pause) Imbeciles

Hahahahahahahaha!! Lawd-a-mercy!

Nigerians. . . we've been wondefully made!

j-girl:
Kai kai kai!
That is it! I'm claiming Japanese heritage if I go to London.
It's not even a matter of Nigerian, Gambian and Ghanaian anymore. It's a matter of seeing how Africans have turned themselves to immature goats in public. All he had to say was sorry. What would it have cost him?
What rubbish is this?

Rotflmao!!!    

Haba now, take it easy on them. The poor men are coming from a midnight shift!  

Mai Suya:
Wannan yarinya . . kichika gaskiya. . .

Wha. . . . Me na yi?

Watch Ghanaian and Nigerian men Tear each other apart on the bus in London.

The man in the orange security jacket hit the white lady and didn't apologise which led to an argument between her maybe Nigerian but claiming Gambia boyfriend and the guy who hit her.


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"You are fighting for your stay, that's why you are with her" - Ghanaian Man to maybe Nigerian but claiming Gambia Man

Temi de, I need an explanation or thought on this.  . .

Hadith Number 4205, Book 017 of Al-Bukhari

'Abdullah b. Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Ma'iz b. Malik al-Aslami came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I have wronged myself; I have committed adultery and I earnestly desire that you should purify me. He turned him away. On the following day, he (Ma'iz) again came to him and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) turned him away for the second time, and sent him to his people saying: Do you know if there is anything wrong with his mind. They denied of any such thing in him and said: We do not know him but as a wise good man among us, so far as we can judge. He (Ma'iz) came for the third time, and he (the Holy Prophet) sent him as he had done before. He asked about him and they informed him that there was nothing wrong with him or with his mind. When it was the fourth time, a ditch was dug for him and he (the Holy Prophet) pronounced judg- ment about him and he wis stoned. He (the narrator) said: There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

These were the only two stoning incidents ever mentioned in regards to Zina and it is from the Hadith, Stoning is also a Sharia law (but meant to be used in societies where there is no poverty and corruption. . . right?) and nowhere in the Koran is does it say people should be stoned to death.

So what gives?

OBVIOUS:
I do however, strongly encourage giving. (tithing to a church or to a charity.) which ever suits ur boat.

Agree!

Interesting Topic!

Just a one teeny tiny correction, they don't say Make Jesus your Lord and Persona savior, they say TAKE. . . Do You TAKE Jesus as your Lord and Personal Savior.

@poster,
Please, find it a thing of joy that ur hubby still finds you sexually attractive to pounce on you in the middle of your sleep. Some hubby will prefer to try it on hookers after getting drunk.

If you don't find it enjoyable, talk to him (lovingly) about it when he becomes sober.

Goodluck!

ogazi007:
Nawa o!is he not your husband?why must he follow a timetable to fulfil his marital obligations to his wife.having sex at odd hours is very romantic,its a mark of respect,and it gives married women high degrees of confidence of how sexually attractive/appealing they are to their husbands,having sex with  one woman continuously is a difficult task most men can't cope with,so u should be happy u have a wonderfull huby who is faithfull and willing to go an extra mile to make you happy by thinking about u while u are fast asleep.hope u wont mind if he takes a break for one month?, lol

Thank You! Thank You!! God Bless you wise, wise men! I bow in the presence of such wisdom!!https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif

Help me tell this woman oooh, help me tell her how she is one of the very lucky few whose husbands still chose them over ashewos!

Explain to her how women who wake up on their accord, wish they could be awoken by the feel of their husband's abunna forcefully entering their abunga.

Show this LUCKY WOMAN how everyday some women kiss their husbands and wished he had stale beer breath instead of Close Up toothpaste breath.

Break it down for her so she understands that being undressed with finesse is so out and drunken fumbling is the new seduction method!!

Please, I beg you two. . . help me make it clear as crystal to this ungrateful wife that some women would get down on their knees, offer their mothers up for sacrifice to have a drunken wanna/be rapist husband of their own!!

More Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding for you two!! https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif

@ Pilgrim.1
I admire your Bible knowledge, I do but I have to say, sometimes you take nitpicking (for lack of a better word) to an extreme and it has a way of distracting from the issue at hand.

Majority of us are Nigerians, which means we have slightly similar experiences, similar understanding of certain words, phrases and contexts (especially when it comes to Religion). You asked “Why do many Christians have this mentality that "tithes" is always and specifically 10%?”   We think so because that’s what we’ve been taught right from the moment we could tell the difference between a 1 Naira note and a 5 Naira note. Since this is an informal setting (as opposed to writing a dissertation for publication), I think it is okay to speak from the point of view of these similarities instead of the point of view what might be universally correct. When the Author says “Should we stop paying tithes?” most of us already know what he means and if we need confirmation or clarification, all we have to do is read further down.

I think instead of picking on how a certain word or phrase is used correctly or incorrectly, you could help us understand what these terms mean in their varied applications and how tithes are not specifically 10% and may include other variables below and above that percentage, how whether one argues that people may give 10% or less (or any other percentage for that matter), it is still a percentage of whatever you have as total.

Now I know that you might be pushing for people to be precise in their posts so people can understand what the topic is about (a nice gesture, don’t get me wrong) but you also have to understand that people aren’t dense, we may not be Bible scholars but we have the basic reading comprehension skills. I sincerely believe if anyone had read further down, they would have gotten the real gist of the topic being discussed. Having to go through off point verbiage on semantics or when and how to use the right verbs, pronouns, adjective, structure, definition etc, can be tiring and just makes a reader want to give up reading the thread. . . which if you think about it, is the opposite of what you are really pushing for.

Thanks.

Tee Hee Hee

KarmaMod:
Naija church abi?

Of course, we went there for Wedding Thanksgiving. It was an appalling sight, I tell you.

A few months ago, I was at a friend’s church and during the tithes and offering time, instead of the usual singing and dancing, the ushers placed the offering buckets in front of the church. Then the pastor announces that tithes givers should come up and drop their money envelops. They did and then stood there for special prayers for tithe givers. When that was done and over with, we went to back to the normal singing and dancing for offering.

Of course I had to ask what that was all about and my friend told me that they started doing it like that because the Pastor said people have not been paying their tithes and those whose accounts showed they hadn’t paid tithes got letters in the mail, much like you would from a creditor but worded more churchy.

For the sake of propriety, I won’t post a copy of the letter because I am not about pointing fingers, I only posted this because I read in one of the comments that tithes payers don’t have a gun to their heads forcing them to pay.

You don’t need to put a gun to someone’s head for them to pay tithes when you can embarrass and/or guilt them into paying it.

olabowale:
Even I see many Christians belives, from the Bible that anything goes in the "bedroom." Islam has restrictions and restraints. Of course, many a muslim may not follow them. But that is not the issue here. We are talking about the two books; Qur'aan and Bible as it relates to sexual morality!

Okay, I concede. . . the Koran is more explicit than the Bible when it comes to punishment.

The Issue here is your statement about the morality of Christians. This is what you said "The sexual morality of Christianity is not what a Muslim should emulate" and THIS is what I had a problem with from the onset.

I don't understand how you can say "Yes, some people don't follow them" for the Muslims yet paint the entire Christian Population as immoral because it does not state in the Bible that offenders should be flogged.

How can you ignore the fact that despite the Koran being very explicit on the punishment for Zina, some people still do it and look down your nose at Christians because the Bible doesn’t have such explicit punishment?

Are you saying having the punishments explicitly written down is what matters? Se yen la fe je ni? I thought the priority here was following the commandment about fornication?

Punishment explicitly written down – Some people still disobey

Punishment not explicitly written down – Some People still disobey

I ask again. . . se yen lafe je ni?

Re: Your Parenting Example
I’m sorry but things are not this black or white, not even close. I head a Youth group and I’ve seen how so not black or white they are. We have this boy. . . 14 yrs old. The first day he joined the group everyone knew that Yes, mun shiga uku. . . not the boy oh but his mother. She came in with her own list of rules of what her son is allowed to do, If we are going to the movies. . . he can only see a certain kind, if we are going on field trips, he can only go certain place. She expects him home at soso time, she wants this wants that. I mean she was just so with her rules and woe betide anyone who mistakenly disobeys them. . . a tongue lashing like you’ve never seen, will be their portion. Everyone was on point with her, except her son. One time, he was running late. . . almost past time his mom said he should be home and I was hurrying him up, he tells me to relax. . . it’s not a big deal, patapata she will disconnect his internet for one week. He is used to it, he said coz that’s what she always does. He knew what he would get if he broke any of her rules and all he had to do was weigh what he was in the mood to take. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard kids say “I’m gonna be grounded for 2 weeks for this, let me kuku enjoy every minute of it.”

This might seem trivial but it goes to the core of the matter at hand. It’s not about having the punishment written down or spelt out, it is about teaching people why this is not a good thing. . . why it displeases God simple.

Look, I am not here to say one religion is better than the other, I just want you. . . YOU to be very careful in how you state things because if you let your bias override logic, it renders everything you have to say useless. One can be loyal to their side and still think straight.

One last thing, the guy demanding sex. . . isn’t he muslim? Should we then say, oh no! The Morality of Muslims is not what any Christian should emulate coz despite the fact that they have the punishments for immorality spelt out in the Koran, this boy still wants to commit Zina?

Does that make any sense?

Ibi nu mi is on the odi because I expect more from you and yes, I know you owe me nothing.

@ Max
You liked Lagaan?! You and my sister are alone on that one and this is comin from someone who loooooves Amir Khan!

I loved KKKG and KKHH, in short any movie with a SRK and Kajol pairing is the BEST movie ever!! Have you seen Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge? Beautiful!

@ Topic
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai
Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham
Maine Pyar Kiya
Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam (even though I'm not a big fan of whatsherface. . . Ash)
The Great Gambler
Dostana
Ye Vaada Raha

But the Greatest. . . Honest to Goodness, best movie for me is Kabhie Kabhie!!

Rotflmao! Propaganda at it's very best! Na Today?

I tell ya, Hitler and Stalin will be proud!!!

This is so sad!

It’s good you realize how awful you’ve been to her and you want to make it up but you can’t just say “I love you, oya come back home”. There are questions that need to be answered. . . questions that, if I was in your wife’s shoes, would be racing through my head.

1) Why do you want her back? Is it because you miss and love her or just out of a sense of duty?

2) Who do you miss? Do you miss your emotional punching bag or do you miss the woman you once loved?

3) If she comes back, what next? I mean she still can’t get pregnant. . . how are you going to handle this? How has your outlook on the matter changed. . . can you accept that you won't be a father, at least not with her as the mother.

4) How emotionally ready are you to seek alternative routes like surrogacy, adoption or invitro?

It’s gone beyond saying I love you, I love you. There are real life issues that needs to be addressed and I believe answering these questions will go a long way in helping you formulate a way to get her back.

I wish you both all the very best.