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olabowale:
Sisi Jinx: « #27 on: Today at 01:43:42 AM »
The last I check the Christian "Good News," the NT claimed whosoever is guiltless should cast the first stone. Show me if that does not oblitrate the punishment for "illegal sexual act?" Compare that to the Qur'aanic commandment of not even coming close to "illegal sex." Now tell me what punishment is meterred to a willing participant of such act, from the christian book or practices? We already know what Islam does. Aburo ibi nu e o ni idi!

Ogbon ati oye ojo ori mi ni mo fi nba e soro. O wun no ni mo fi nron e leti pe ki o lo wo Bibeli e. Leyin no ko wu Alukurani mi. Wa ri iyato awon mejeji lori iwa buruku ti a nso nipa e.

This is what Su mi when it comes to religion, the twists and turns. Why can’t it be straight forward or rather why can’t WE be straight forward?  I don’t want to believe that you think Punishment is better than repentance, forgiveness and condemning hypocrisy. Why do you want to make it look like the Koran preaches “the one strike and you are out” when like the Bible, it teaches that there is room for repentance and forgiveness?

First of all. . . both the Islamic and Christian doctrines are against sexual immorality.

Bible

"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body." (1 Corinthians 6:18-20)

"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people." (Ephesians 5:3)

Koran

The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment. (024.002)

According to the Sharia laws, the punishment is to be matted only after the person confesses or testimony from 4 witnesses who saw the act being performed or she ends up pregnant. So the Christians offenders are punished with spending eternity in a fiery lake, if they don’t repent (that you don’t believe in this, is not the issue here) and the Muslims 100 lashes if they don’t repent and mend their ways. Okay then but has the fear of these punishments. . . . fear of being flogged in public stopped some people from engaging in sexual immorality? NO! Should we then condemn the religions for this? I’ll let you answer that.

Now let’s go back to your quoted the verse you quoted, let’s be clear, when Jesus said he who is without sin, he meant WHO IS WITHOUT SIN. Sin. . . lying, stealing, murdering. . . SIN. Anyone who is PURE (free of sin. . . any sin) to throw the first stone. No one did because obviously we all sinners. What Jesus condemned here is hypocrisy, how can anyone who is not free of sin condemn someone else? He did not condone the act nor did he dismiss the Judgment coz he turned around, gave her a chance to repent and forgave the woman. He told her to go and sin no more. The Almighty is not matting out papapa punishment but about Mercy, Repentance and forgiveness.

Repentence and forgiveness. . . also found in the Koran

“If they both repent and mend their ways, then leave them alone.  Verily, God is the Accepter of repentance, the Merciful.” (Quran 4:16) 

God wants to make things clear for you and to guide you to the ways of those before you and to forgive you.  God is the All knowing, the Wise.  God wants to forgive you and wants those who follow their desires to turn wholeheartedly towards (what is right).  God wants to lighten your burdens, and He has created man weak.” (Quran 4:26-28)

The Koran also warns us about being too quick to pass judgment, we are not supposed to start lashing with Koboko. Making sure there are 4 witnesses to testify is a deterrent to swift/unjustly punishment and maybe even giving the offender the chance to repent. The Koran also reminds us that were it not for the grace and mercy of Allah, no one will be free of sin.

024.021  O ye who believe! follow not Satan's footsteps: if any will follow the footsteps of Satan, he will (but) command what is shameful and wrong: and were it not for the grace and mercy of Allah on you, not one of you would ever have been pure: but Allah doth purify whom He pleases: and Allah is One Who hears and knows (all things).

Do we now say because the Koran called for witnesses, tells us to be slow to judge and reminding us that only Allah hears and knows thing, it means there should be a sexual immorality free for all? Of course not! There are Holy Laws and punishment but more importantly, there is Repentance and forgiveness.

I think what irks me more is how you inadvertently perpetuate the already misconceived notion that Islam is a religion of wrath and punishment and unforgiveness just to win an argument. Like my mom will say, kokoro ton je efu, inu efo lo wa.


Please tell me what you think of this. . .

Hadith Number 4205, Book 017 of Al-Bukhari

'Abdullah b. Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Ma'iz b. Malik al-Aslami came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I have wronged myself; I have committed adultery and I earnestly desire that you should purify me. He turned him away. On the following day, he (Ma'iz) again came to him and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) turned him away for the second time, and sent him to his people saying: Do you know if there is anything wrong with his mind. They denied of any such thing in him and said: We do not know him but as a wise good man among us, so far as we can judge. He (Ma'iz) came for the third time, and he (the Holy Prophet) sent him as he had done before. He asked about him and they informed him that there was nothing wrong with him or with his mind. When it was the fourth time, a ditch was dug for him and he (the Holy Prophet) pronounced judg- ment about him and he wis stoned. He (the narrator) said: There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.

If the Pope’s forgiveness wasn’t important, why would they feel the need to forgive him 40yrs after the fact?

If the Vatican didn’t have a say on who gets into heaven, why would it make headlines?

40 yrs of standing outside by the pearly gates, watching people joyfully enter must have been hard for Lennon. At least now he can go join them, thanks to the Pope and the entire Vatican forgiving him.

Why are you doing this? They died in the mayham. . . like some Igbos, some Hausas, some Efik, some Tivis, some Young, some old. A lot of PEOPLE DIED in this horrible and unfortunate incident, so why single out the Yorubas from the others? Are some people's lives more important than others? We are condemning a certain group for being myopic, seeing only their own as important while doing the exact same thing.

May ALL their souls rest in peace.

olabowale:
Sisi Jinx: We already know that you have Muslim women/men who are like freaks. Thats the reason we may have some who are flogged for illicit sex. Or some stoned to death.

Yet we also have some virgin, male and female Christians, who are not lude. My response stands. Why because when a non Muslim says that Muslim woman should seek sexual morality from a Christian, then I need to say a thing or two I know about women. I observed. And I was a 20semething before.

Sisi, kini mo so to lodi si?

Last I checked, both Islam and Christianity preached abstinence until marriage. So I fail to see how your statement . . . The sexual morality of christianity is not what a muslim should emulate” makes any sense and I honestly don’t want to believe you are using a topic as important as this to take cheap shots at Christianity.

Ogbon and Oye la fin da agba mo, not age (I’m sorry I don’t remember what age is called in Yoruba)

olabowale:
Is Pilgrim a Believer, or a disbeliever? Shhhhh. Before you respond, a Muslim is a believer while the others are disbelievers. So how could we delegate a disbelievers to be in charge of the affairs of a believer? Wouldnt she make her boy crazy as she was, even when she said she was a muslim?

Do we send a chick to go "listen" to the experience of a Kite, and expects it to return unscath? If at at all it returned?

Let us the "muslims" protect our own. The sexual morality of christianity is not what a muslim should emulate. Thank you.

Bi mo she dagba to yi, mio le ba RedHotChic lol, ta ge.

I respect you too much to respond to that part of your post in the manner I would love to, so please modify that false and derogatory statement.

E ronti pe agba le para yin oh.

Thank you.

Insensitive idiots? Okay.

@ Hauwa
Hauwa. . . Omoge? Me ya faru. . .  Me kin yi? 

Walahi, ni ma ba ni da lafiya. Haushi anna, Haushi a gida. . . Hankalin na ya tashi.

Ni ma, na ce Together we stand. . . har abada abadin!

Ina zuwa, in son ci abinchi


@josBoy4Life
Ya isa mana!

Pardon me oooh


@ JosBoy4lif
Ka bari su, in ka yi magana, za su ce kana neman fa’da, za su kiranmu mugu. Mu yi shiru kaman mutum wai ba shi da hankali. In su ce muna da kafa Kaman alade ko kai biyu da baki hudu, muna ci ido mutane. . . gaskiya ne? A’a. To. . . Ba laifi, karka damu.

deept:
Is she dumb, plain stupid or "madly in love"?

So our options are stupid, stupid or stupid?

In that case, the answer is stupid!

JosBoy4Lif:
The were Yoruba Muslim well before they were Yoruba Christian, burp!

Mai Suya:
don't you tinhk its time you withdraw your brain from its protracted recess, take time to find out what actually caused the riots in the first place, and see if it has anything to do with relgion as you dimwits have all being saying.

Jezz I'm getting too old for this. . .

Ka fa’da ma ni, ina isalin wannan abin da ka ke yi? Don allah, ina roko, tsaya. Wannan Magana. . . It’s not child’s play. Ka bari su, su rubuta wanne abu su na so.

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@ Topic
Why do you bother? Do you really think they are ready to let knowledge get in the way of their bashing?

Kobojunkie:
Pardon me but I think you are the one who keeps trying to mix things up here. You made some statements earlier about people needing to save for two years just to come back to Nigeria and I just took upon myself to help you with information about life in the west so you can better understand why and how life in the west is not what you think it is there and how it cannot be compared to life in Nigeria. So, no, I don’t think this should be made about US Bashing either but we need to make more informed statements here.

What issue are am I confusing and what uninformed statements am I making here? What. . .  there aren't people who save up for two years to make the trip to Nigeria? Maybe you are blessed not to be in that position and the people around you don't bat an eye when it comes to buying tickets to Nigeria but NOT EVERYONE is in that position. That you make this an issue of contention is baffling but I am willing to leave room for the possibility it is because of how well things are for you, you don't know this.

Now, you claim the same people that make it abroad, make it in Nigeria. You never explain the how and the why of it. With a population of about 140 million, we have over 70 million of those people considered VERY VERY POOR (living on less than a dollar a day), there is an equally large number living on less than $2 dollars a day in the same country. Now if one of the can escape the situation in Nigeria, to a $30 a day lifestyle, are you telling us here that your “The same people make it abroad, the same people make it in Nigeria” theory applies? As someone already pointed out, can an illegal immigrant in Nigeria get a cleaning job and make as good a living on that as a Nigerian illegal immigrant working a cleaning job in the UK can?

And the only solution is for everyone to pack their bags and move abroad. . . I mean what are you saying here?

Regardless of what they believe though, you need to check the reality of things here. How many of those who leave with ideas of a rosy life out there, actually come back? I mean check the numbers. Thousands leave each year. How many of those thousands actually come back after discovering it is not as rosy as they initially thought? Please provide proof, not more stories here and there.

My Goodness! Am I to assume you have proof of the number of people who don't go back? Why are you trying to lose the point here? Most people will tell you they can't go back because there is nothing to go back to. . . I believe the phrase they use is "Where do I start from?"

I worked grave night shift for some time, and I CHOOSE to DO SO, so I could go to school during the day time. There are definitely those who will complain but again, it is a CHOICE they made and not something forced on them by anyone else. I could have looked for a day job but I chose a night job so I could spend my days on other things. It is similar to working day shift, except most of the world is asleep when you are at work.
The Nursing field is huge here. There are those who are born with a desire to care for people and so changing diapers is not a bad thing for them as they went to school, earned their degree to become LPNS or RNS so they could care for people. Changing diapers is not beneath them because they have that passion to help people. There are people who need to have their diapers changed in Nigeria as well. Are we better off letting them rot with their waste? Are those few people who are caring enough to clean them up and make sure they are able to get a life as close to normal less in some way? Lol

What does this mean?

Well, when you are illegal, you definitely will face issues with getting papers, just as illegal immigrants in Nigeria would. About needing credit to buy a car, I don’t know how you got that but you don’t NEED credit to buy a car. I have never really bought a car on credit and I have had good cars too. You can save up to buy a car, just as you would have to do so if you were in Nigeria. So again, we need to visit the reality of these stories.

You, hun? Once again. . . YOU and what happens to YOU isn't neccesarily the reality for most.

Well, driving a cab is not as easy as painting a car yellow in Nigeria either. It is a business and you ought to register to drive a cab like you would in Nigeria.  Here is a good link that tells you how to become a Cab driver http://www.ehow.com/how_2085423_.html .  Let us focus on the reality of things and not the excuses sold us often. I have a friend back in college who came in as an international student. Before we left college, he started his own cab company, even as an international student. Doing real good in Delaware still, now he is married and has his papers, along with a successful business.

Is it as this juncture I tell you to provide us proof of how many people have made like your friend and not stories here and there.

Look, there will always be people who will complain even when presented with various opportunities and all the necessary tools needed to excel. Focusing on what those have to say and using that as standard to judge all makes no sense at all. Washing plates while you are working on a college degree is actually considered a noble thing to do. You may not see that but over here, it is.

I am sorry, how do you teach people the value of hard work when you do not even have enough tools available to you to help do that? My point is, each person has to decide on what is best for his situation. The man in this video has been in the UK for two years and he certainly does not want to come back, does he? He is even willing to lie and deny Nigeria just so he could stay. What has that to do with the story of another who could not take the heat? It is apparent this particular man has his mind made up to take the heat and work as hard as he has to stay and make a life for himself there.

I know thousands of people who won the visa lottery, brought their families over and are living really good lives together in America. What is your point?

What makes you think this man and the many others who decide to risk life and limb to leave each year were not careful in making the decision on leaving Nigeria? Why do you have the notion that many of these choices were not careful made?
If your two friends know what to expect, then it is up to them to decide if it is worth it or not.

Hard work is foreign to majority of Nigerians. We are not obviously a culture that believes much in hard work and that is made apparent by the fact that all around us; we see more decay than we do actual progress. So, do not be shocked when you see people who feel it is easier elsewhere. It is called “Survival of the fittest”.  I would rather more and more Nigerians learn what it means to work hard, as many do when they land here. You work hard and commit to succeeding with a plan; you have a better chance than if you do not here. Is Nigeria really better off with the many people with little work ethic down there? Is the country really better off if all these people continue as they are today?


Availability of opportunities is apparently not enough to help Nigeria, as we have millions more who are in poverty than we do those who are doing ok. Let’s stop stoning people for trying to find a better life for themselves. As a country, we have failed our own, and this has nothing to do with those who choose to leave. Until we decide to face the problem and solve it, we should stop expecting our people to be slaves to our ideas of the country, which they do not agree with.

I can tell you of a friend of mine who went to medical school and finished in Nigeria; graduated top of her class too. She came over here and found it hard to pass the medical exam. After a couple of tries, she decided to settle down as a house wife and spend more time studying for the exam. It has been over 6 years and she is back in school to work on a different career. She will tell you first hand that hard work is essential if one wants to succeed in life. She works an entry level job to make some money to help out with her bills these days. She is not running back to Nigeria and has no plans to. Should we say because of the one man who won the visa lottery but ran back to Nigeria after less than a year, she should consider running back too?

This would make sense if I said people who go abroad never make it or if I said people shouldn't go abroad at all. . . since that was never my point, I'm just going to leave it here to take space.



@ Doyin 13
Thank you for trying to make sense of things. I don't why people have to be at the extreme ends of things.

Nigeria1//:
Now from down to up.  The diary of former obasanjo wife tell you more about the man,  You can ask the children too.
In yar adua cases Yar adua is well educated,  he even has a master degree in science. So Yar adua can not tell the world he as never read about NASA, the man use to teach as ABU. university please??  

he understand the science principle behind this things. you would expect him to uphold the principle he use to teach.   Yar adua is a northerner. what war would happen if a northerner declear the true census of nigeria to other northerners,   what war,  NO,  if a southern do it then they may be problem.

But northerner to northerner, even  his wife. she is northerner.   You see in life there is a time to lie but there is a time to tell the truth. IF you do not now. I tell you,  I would be back on the internet the day they kill Yar adua,  You have to understand. it was the same lie that balewa told about the census that they lead to them killed him,  

In life you have to get to a point when you tell the truth. You can't hide the truth forever. I believe the whole world would see yar adua more as a hero, if he comes out and tell the truth about the census,  You know what makama can lie, we all know that but pictures can't lies,   

Look like i said before, we would pay for makama travel ticket to come and do a lie detector test on live television,   makama falsfied the result,   We would give makama N1 million naira for his trip.

What are you talking about?

I'm not trying to be funny but I honestly have NO IDEA what message, point. . . whatever it is you are try to say.

Kobojunkie:
Well, just cause the young man has not called in 4 weeks does not mean he is in hell or something. Why make it seem as if that is the case? I didn’t contact anyone of my friends for the first 6 months I was here cause I was too busy with school and job. Was I in hell too??

Well, I will say again, there is a misconception here of what life in the west is about. Unlike the ‘life easy’ approach I was used to in Nigeria, over here, you have most everything in place to fully equip you with all you need to build the LIFE YOU WANT. If you want to work hard, and live a successful life, you can attain that. If you choose to have everything come to you, you will have a problem but that life is possible as well. If you want to choose crime, there are tons of prisons and the justice system is there to give you justice. So there is really no way you can blame the WEST when you fail in the WEST. Definitely, the life is not for all but for those who believe and dream big, out here all the tools have been provided to achieve those dreams.

It is possible to come over here, get a degree, a good job and great income. Many internationals here have that. Many do not have to save for 2 years cause what they make in one week pays for a round trip to Nigeria and enough money to throw around too. You get to choose what life you want. It is not dependent on how much money your family has or how many connections you have. This is all up to you and the choices you make. So your misconception of what life is out here in the west needs to be cleared, first, don’t you think?


Now speaking of Hausas choosing to sit back and enjoy family, we all know that that part of the country is also the least educated and least developed in the country. Putting aside the professor hat with family apparently does not mean much in development.  Are we suggesting that other tribes sit back and copy the model out there? What good has this culture done for the northerners and why should the rest of Nigeria copy that? Can we please not turn this into another debate on tribalism?

The video here only shows a man who sold all to escape Nigeria. Does not show us that this man has no plan to get a college education in the next 4 years and neither are we told of his educational background. For all we know, he could be a graduate from one of Nigeria’s best university. For all we know this man may have kids back in Nigeria who he is taking care of.  WHy is he wrong in deciding to make this decision for his own life and situation?

I think if you see that this isn’t about US bashing you’ll see that we are saying the same thing here. No doubt people make it abroad, the same way people make it in Nigeria. The issue here. . . At least for me is those who leave certainty for uncertainty because they believe it is certainty and they do this based on the rosy picture other people have painted.

How many people come back to Nigeria and tell others how they worked the grave night shift at the meat packing place or how they changed diapers for old people before getting where they are? How many talk about the issues they face with getting papers or how you need to have a credit to do anything from buying a car, getting a job to even renting an apartment and in order to get a credit, you need a social security number? That even the cabs they think they think is easy to drive, isn’t just about getting a car and painting it yellow? Do they talk about having to pay thousands for what they call a medallion to own a cab and if you don’t, you can get arrested? They don’t, instead they talk about making thousands in a month, they talk about getting 2009 Mazda and so on.

Look I am not saying those things. . . Getting papers, getting social security number, working in the meat packing factory, changing diapers, are bad, I am saying talking about them, would surely not leave a life on easy street impression.

Call me naïve but I think if people knew the exact nature of how things worked, they would weigh their options more closely. I know a man who won the visa lotto or ticket to voluntary slavery as I like to call it but that’s another topic for another day. This man, unlike most people, went alone to test the waters before bringing his family, he spent about a year and half in the states before going back and thanking his heavenly father he didn’t bring his family all at once.  He made people laugh because he kept saying in Yoruba “Ah, things aren’t that easy ooh” , he went on and on about what he had to do, what he would have had to do if he had taken his family along, he told it as it is. I know at least two people who are more careful making the decision on whether or not to stay in Nigeria because of what they heard from him. Should they decide to go, at least they know what to expect and can mentally and emotionally prepare for it.

Most people aren’t inclined to work hard in Nigeria or look at available prospects because they believe “Oh London or US is the answer”. The shock of finding out things aren’t that rosy coupled with the realization that they can’t undo what they just did, is enough to destabilize a person for a long time.

otokx:
Some body is self deluded inside here - kumbaya, 

only nigerians who have,  northerners

spare me.

my sister a lecturer went to do her masters in manchester and is back to her lecturing so what crap is that chappy talking about? Probably the northerners who went abroad - learnt the act of looting, maiming and burning and came back home to practice it on their unsuspecting eastern brethren. Why can't they do the violence to their fellow northern brothers since they want to enrich their culture?

I'm gonna take a wild guess here. . . You are angry.

Negro_Ntns:
@Post

There'smore to a people than just academic credentials.  DeepZone asked a question few months back in cultural section, she asked "why don't the Northerners stay abroad after their sudies"?  The reason is because they have a support base in their culture that puts priority in the human soul above academic elitism.  Southerners finish college and believe they belong in a class above that uncle in their family that still eats with his fingers; Oh, Uncle you are supposed to eat with cutleries and not your fingers and I meantto remind you please stop speaking Yoruba to my children, they speak English only.  We treat Uncle Kola as a failure.

This guy is bearing his soul out in a plea not to be sent back home.  Why?  Because he will be ridiculed when he goes back home, he becomes a failure.  Contrarily in Hausaland, the professor is still sitting on a mat on his porch for evening meal with friends, some of whom didn't graduate high school and they all eat together with their hands.  When he is with family, he puts his academic hat aside and snap on the cultural hat and enjoy family.  Its true they are behind us academically but how far ahead has our academic achievements saved the South or our kinfolks like this gu in the video?  If our achievements is not resulting in pragmatic accomplishments for our people, then we have collectively become a failure - the high school graduate, the bachelor degree holder, the post graduate and the doctorate, all of us ae failures.  The prme vidence is what you see in this guy in the video., not to mention many more tha are unseen or unheard of but are nonetheless languishing in abject loss of their soul.  In the true word of success, the only Nigerians that have succeeded are the Northerners, so far as they return home and enrich their culture with what they have learnt abroad.

BRILLIANTLY STATED!!!!

It's the Kaa ri mi factor and the keeping up with and then overtaking the Joneses mentality that is killing us today!!!

yemmyse:
A few weeks ago I tried convincing a younger friend of my not to travel using falsified papers. He asked me for money to purchase tickets. He was abadoning his education for a trip to Syria. Now he's gone for 4 weeks and no one has heard a word from him. He was to travel from Syria to Spain and under the disguise of being a footballer. His family is worried sick at the moment. I really wish I had stood my grounds and insisted he continued with his studies, he had just 3 more months to graduate from school with second upper degree in Banking and Finance. It's pathetic and heartrendering.

You tried convincing him not to go? You are a brave man oh! You're lucky he didn't call you enemy of progress or say you are trying to use his luck. In as much as it pains me, I think it's best if they experienced it themselves. Only God knows what the young man is going through now and it's not even a country he can speak the language.

I'm gonna catch flack for what I'm about to say but what the heck. . . In my opinion, the people abroad are largely to blame for the misconception that everything is just divinely heaven. They go back home, flashing their dollars and talking a big game. . . of course they don't talk about the part where they've been saving for almost 2yrs for that one trip or how when they get back, they are gonna drink the garri for it while working fourple midnight shift and triple day shift to make ends meet.

yemmyse:
Kobojunkie

please stop trying to find excuses for what is inexcusable. Are the rest of us in Nigeria dead? Aint we living and are we not happy. It is greed and lasviciousness that result in these acts.

Tears rolled out of my eyes when i heard the young man saying "Ejo esi lekun o". Shame on those who squander our resources, they are the ROOTCAUSE of these evil.

Couldn't agree more!!!!

For many, Abroad is a place for fast cash. . . until they get there.

savanaha:
Thank you. We pretend like the man was born yesterday. He must have given up on Nigeria for a reason. Nigeria men are so proud that for the man to result to that and make such a comment must mean something. . .

Or it could also mean he has boasted his head off to the people back home and he'll do anything to keep up appearances.

Many people leave Nigeria thinking the other place is paved with gold. So they sell all their things because they believe they'll make it back at the blink of an eye, after all it is Abroadoverseas until they get there and find out things aren't as rosy as they thought but it's too late. . . they are stuck. They can't go back home because 1) They have used up all their resources back home 2) They are ashamed to go back and tell people they made a terrible mistake. Having no other choice, they resort to that

Nigeria1//:
i am just be careful to paste the pictures not to cause a civil war,  i have more pictures, by the time i am finished. you know the south is more than the north,  i just be careful,  i know my igbo brother and temper. the next thing you see, they declear biafra the next day.

It was because of not to create a war that i assume obasanjo pretended like if he did not know.

Let me see if I get you right

You excuse Obasanjo for what happened under his regime saying he was trying to avoid war but turn around and blame Yar’dua for the same thing, knowing full well he was not in office when it happened?

Really? I mean. . . Seriously?


Oh  okay then, how about this. . . let’s also assume it is “because not to create war Yar’dua is pretending like he does not to know.” Yeah, let’s have us a pretend party!

Besides, what has Obansanjo’s Diary of a scorned wife got to do with any . . You know what, scratch that. . . What has any of these got to do with the topic??!!!!!

@AngieFan
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You guys don't see what this means. . . Now Lennon can go to heaven. You know he's been waiting by the pearly gates for 40 yrs after the angel said to him "I. . . I'm sorry but I can't let you in. I mean if it wasn't the Vatican who needs to give their stamp of approval maybe I coulda snuck you in but with them. . . Duuuuude, that's a no no, I can't risk it".

Yeah.

I'm Happy for Lennon ooh, I am!

Man Rule!!!!

Heil Hitler!!!

Haha! My older sister’s school did a skit on that song a long time ago!!


1) There was a boy who fell for a girl
He went to his father to seek for advice
His father said “Son I’d rather say no,
That girl is your sister but
Your mother doesn’t know

(chorus)
Oh no! Shame has come into the family

2) He went to his mother to seek for advice
His mother said “son I’d rather say no.
Your uncle is your father but
Your father doesn’t know”

(chorus)
Oh no! Shame has come into the family.

3) He went to his uncle to seek for advice
His uncle said son I’d rather say no.
Your father’s not my brother but
Your father doesn’t know

(chorus)
Oh no! Shame has come into the family.

On and on it went until he realized that because of the family secrets, he could marry the girl. . .  she wasn’t his blood relativehttps://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/laughing021.gif

How can you say he makes no point when you made no attempt to read his posts?

I think the day Christian start defending Christ in the same manner they defend their pastors and churches is the day we start getting somewhere.

Kobojunkie:
Video explaining possible reason why we find thousands of professionals in entry level jobs.

http://www.vancouveriam.com/videos/6b15018fae8a

This is so very sad!!! Our Country is not that bad, now. There ARE people living there. . . people who won't trade anything for one day abraod and it's not like they are living the high life or anything.

H2O2:
that's why you love mi.

Bwahahaha! I wondered!  

I get all your points but are you saying staying in that country where there is no peace of mind coz any moment, the Law can come a-calling is preferable to being in Nigeria?!

Come on!!

H2O2:
unless he/she's dream is to be a cab driver

Rotflmao! You are awful!!