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elated177:
Who is Jebus?

Eeemm, stop what?

Let us continue what you started. How is your element water? You said you were from the waters, right? I am interested in this line of discourse. Let us conclude it once and for all.

One step at a time

How is Gods divine commandments equal to jebus/yehosuah ?

So you mean, you can't tell when somebody is lying to you?

budaatum:
This means absolutely nothing! The Gospels existed before Nicea is a fact, so could not have been written after.

They may have been edited at or after Nicea, but the core of the text existed as evidence clearly shows. But if you wish to believe otherwise without providing evidence, be very welcome please.

Then what where they arguing about prior to Nicea??

I did this evolve to the jesus story.

This is what Moses told the people.

Where did God mention jebus

elated177:
What you call the new testament contain the Word of YHVH Almighty.

Deut 32: 45 When Moses finished reciting all these words to all Israel, 46 he said to them, “Take to heart all the words I have solemnly declared to you this day, so that you may command your children to obey carefully all the words of this law. 47 They are not just idle words for you—they are your life. By them you will live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess.”

John 14: 6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

John 5: 39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

1 John 2: 24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.

1 John 5: 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

Sonmvayina, what you call the new testament is also part of the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

The new testament is not scriptures..

Stop it.

It is just Roman /Greeks bull shit that went too far..
They added at the end of the Jewish one to deceive you and you fell for it..

So when did God tell Moses the law is jebus?

It was added by

elated177:
Go and confirm.

Say something if you want to be heard..

You asked if I believe the laws of God are his salvation,

I said I do...

You where somehow trying to link the commandments to jebus, how did you even do that..the best magician can't even,
Even the people that invented the jesus character never ever said anything like that...

Clarify yourself..

elated177:
You did not answer the questions.

What is your question?

I think I have

elated177:
Factor in what? It is not for humans to factor in anything or anyone.


Yahushua the Messiah is YHVH's Salvation. He is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments. He is the Word of YHVH Almighty.

Luke 2: “Sovereign YHVH, as you have promised,
you may now dismiss your servant in peace.
30 For my eyes have seen your salvation,
31 which you have prepared in the sight of all nations:
32 a light for revelation to the Gentiles,
and the glory of your people Israel.”

John 14:6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

You are using the new testament to prove the new testament. Show me where the 10 commandments means an embodiment of jebus in the Tanakh

budaatum:
Are you suggesting there was no Gospel before Nicea?

You're welcome to that belief if so. Evidence does not support it though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_ante-Nicene_period

I mean the gospels as we have them in the Bible now.
What gospel meant them was military conquest.

It was after Nicea they where refashioned to mean something else as we have them now..

The delegates at Nicea had to choose between Mithraism and Christianity (worship of Serapis).

They chose Christianity and over time(most likely at the council of Ephesus) Serapis became jesus.

elated177:
You didn't answer the question. Your natural element is water? How so?

This is above you..

One step at a time

Just stick to what you can accept now

elated177:
You evaded the questions. Answer them first.

I do..

They where given for us to make good choices and live a healthy and fulfilled life...and in peace with our fellow men

elated177:
Do you or do you not believe that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION?

I do...

Factor in jebus

Dtruthspeaker:
The Manual only tells us our basic components and a slight description of our manufacturing processes as is usual. And emphasis is on "slight description".

And the Manual does not fully answer the "when"

Thanks...

budaatum:
The Gospels were written way before Eusebius was born! The oldest surviving piece of text is even older than him by about 40 years

https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=2647

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel

All these years things came after Nicea. If all these existed, there won't be any argument prior to the council sitting. And come to think of it , they could either go with Mithraism or Christianity. They voted to go with Christianity..

There is really nothing divine about it. They just added it at the back of the Jewish scriptures to deceive the masses and give it some legitimacy
Is there any mention of jesus, the son of Mary in it?

MaxInDHouse:
No more interested in arguing with you go and worship with your kind!

Join this group on Facebook...

They will open your eyes to the beauty of the Torah...

You will cause the moments you wasted your life on jebus

Maynman:
The earliest manuscript of mark called Papyrus 137, is dated to the later 2nd or early 3rd century. Eusebius didn’t flourish until 4th century. Origen was before Eusebius and he also used this books.

I won't call them gospels..

elated177:
What?

Sonmvayina, are you from the waters?

My natural element is water...

Do you understand??

elated177:
Sonmvayina, if you knew the God who gave the Ten Commandments and the Ten Commandments, you would have realized and known that the Ten Commandments constitute his SALVATION. Do you agree with me that the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION?

Sonmvayina, do you realize that the Word of YHVH Almighty is the only way to know him and that obedience to his Word is the way to get his approval.

Sonmvayina, do you know that the Word of YHVH Almighty is the only medium between him and his creatures?


It takes the Spirit of the Creator to keep his Ten Commandments. No one can go wrong keeping them.

So what role is jesus or the name you give him get to do with it?

elated177:
Sonmvayina, the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute his SALVATION. You would know this if you knew him.

Factor in jesus the fake Messiah..

That's the part I don't get

Maynman:
You may be right, eusebius the master forger used alot of josephus work and often quoted his books in the church, and not to forget, Josephus was a Chrestian.
The books inside New Testament was meant for Chrestians.
Eusebius didn’t outrightly write everything in the New Testament, he mostly complied different books that makes up New Testament, while also forging, editing and correcting them to be suitable for his new audience called “Christians”, of course with the help of emperor Constantine.

Yes, I meant the gospel bearing Mark..I believe it was written by Eusebius. It is from ancient tales about Marduk...Marduk was the son of Enki and he was also the creator of the universe according to the Enuma Elish..

The letters attributed to Paul where all written by a first century sage Apolinius of Tyna, who actually existed. They where edited for the bible by John Chrysostom.

It's all forgery and bull shit. And to think that they have murdered millions just to keep the lie going..

How can you follow the 10 commandments of God

And still believe in a fake Messiah

I don't get the connection?

Did God ever ask anybody to follow anybody apart from him??

Well as for me, I believe the entire new testament where written post Nicea. They where all written after the council of Nicea. I am 99% sure that it was written by Eusebius, the master forger and Mathew and Luke by his side kicks...
Come to think of it, if they existed earlier why the arguements for almost 10 years prior to Nicea. Each church had their own scriptures no uniformity. And Constantine who desire to have 1 single religion in his empire summoned them to Nicea to iron out their difference. They have being holding such council through the ages, the last being the 2nd Vatican council. It was those council that introduced and defined the doctrines and dogma in Christianity. Not the Bible, it was the council of Trent in 1553 that gave power to the bible as a reaction to the reformation started by Martin Luther.

NB
Until the council of Ephesus the Christ was Serapis Christus

When did God say "giving your life to a Messiah" will trump obeying his commandments?

You people should think this matter twice oh...
This is idolatry in disguise..

elated177:
What wisdom and knowledge? You mean the wisdom that said you were from the waters?

Lol..that one too..

If you could comprehend it,

You will see where I said human are grouped under 4 natural element of fire, water, air and earth....it is a part of Astrology which I am sure you are too scared to even read..

Not from..

elated177:
Do you know him? Do you observe his Ten Commandments?

Yes,

Is that not what I have been advocating here since I joined nairaland!!

Like I always say.

Commandments number 1 says
I am the lord your God who brought thee out of the land of Egypt and put of the house of bondage, you shall have NO OTHER GOD before me..
Meaning : No intermediary.

Commandments number 2:
Do not make the image OR LIKENESS of anything in heaven, on earth or under the waters below the earth, Do not now down to them or serve them..

You will agree with me if you are sincere that worshipping the likeness of a man (something that is found on earth) is prohibited and condemned in this commandment...

Commandment number 3

Remember the Sabbath day (sunset on Friday to sundown on Saturday) and keep it holy..


I try my best to keep it from 1 to 10, if I miss it, I do what is asked
"If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and confess their sins and forsake their evil ways, I will hear from heaven, I will forgive their sins and heal their land...He never said anything about sending a demi god as a sin sacrifice...

I don't know what you think I am doing wrong, point it out..

elated177:
How did you arrive at such conclusion?

Mind you, I am not a Christian.

This is so fresh..

Whaaaaat??

elated177:
You don't know what you are saying.

I guess my wisdom and knowledge is way ahead of you.

Sorry...

elated177:
Which God are you talking about and what laws did you mean?



Sonmvayina from the water, are you also from oil?

The God that gave Moses the 10 commandments..and ask human to keep and obey them.

Dtruthspeaker:
Good reason would have told you that this question is for man's Manufacturer and not for men.

Don't be a dummy..

Your brain is not for decoration..

This question has been debated for thousands of years. The Torah establishes that the embryo begins to take form 40 days after conception, but there are varying opinions when the soul enters the body.
When do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
Go and ask those who are in HellFire!

Lol...deliberate choice or ??

It is God who placed both good and evil in front of us. He created both options. Sin is just making a wrong choice or missing the mark. Its purpose is for us to learn and grow.

Where and when did allegiance to the Messiah supersede the obedience to the laws of God.

You never know where you dey go wey you no carry oil and water...continue