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Kobojunkie:
Who wrote these laws, and when?
Where are you told that these laws are written there in your conscience?
Where is it written that you will be judged by your conscience?
What does this supposed judgment amount to beyond the feeling of guilty we occasionally experience in this world?

How often do you insult your parents ?
Or lie with someone else spouse ?

Kobojunkie:
Who wrote these laws, and when?
Where are you told that these laws are written there in your conscience?
Where is it written that you will be judged by your conscience?
What does this supposed judgment amount to beyond the feeling of guilty we occasionally experience in this world?

You have already answered your questions in the last line ..

Kobojunkie:
Why is your conscience a reliable standard for such things? Who decided it should be? When was this decision made? By whom? How?

Your choices....

MaxInDHouse:
Says you!

That is what history is saying....

If you really care to check.

MaxInDHouse:
The conscience comes with the golden rule as Jesus Christ of Nazareth explained:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them" Matthew 7:12

There's no prophet or law that stated this anywhere!

So deny Jesus Christ of Nazareth and continue arguing pointlessly!

I want a Mouth Action,

Can you give me,

I will give you too.


Olodo like you....

The problem I have with Islam is the same problem I have with Christianity.. and that is the figures at the centre of the religion.

They where both written into existence..they never existed..

tctrills:
how do you mean

For a point to be right...

It has to be true everywhere in the Bible...

Number 23:19 say god is not a man ..that was why he was sending prophets...they where his mouth peice..

Kobojunkie:
How do you decide whether you lived a holy and peaceful life? By what standard do you base this?

Conscience..
The laws has been written there..

Kobojunkie:
How do you decide whether you lived a holy and peaceful life? By what standard do you base this?

Conscience..

AntiChristian:
In John 20:21 says Jesus said “Peace be with you"...in his statement.

Where did Jesus call himself peace in the Bible?

And you lied that Jesus is not like Moses!

The LORD told Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

So who is the Prophet that is like Moses?

Muhammad right?

No..Joshua..

tctrills:
No it doesn't. Read Exodus 15:3

It does....you giving me another passage means it is not true...
It is not consistent...

God is the creator of heaven and earth...

He can't be part of creation..

It is not possible,...

God is infinite, He is beyond space and time.

Steve Job is the creator of iPhone

He can't be part of iPhone

Steve Job, iPhone charger and iPhone battery are not 1...the trinity doctrine is bull shit and insult against God..

I buy 2k fuel at 220 a litre..

Dem must pay me back...and I put money on top ..

At least 1 must enter..

tctrills:
Did you not read the bible when it said that the Word was God? Or did you not read Isaiah call him the Mighty God?

Jesus Christ was the God that led the children of Israel across the wilderness.
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

But Number 23:19 contradicts your point..

tctrills:
That's the funny thing about you guys. Everyone you don't agree with would ask you to read and understand. It's only when someone agrees with your position that you believe they have read and they understand. To me, that is very shallow thinking. I would not ask you to read and understand just because you don't agree with me, rather I would clearly explain my point and show you why you are wrong.

That is what I have done..

For any thing to be true in the Bible, it has to be true everywhere in the Bible..

Numbers 23;19 disagree that Jesus is god.

It clearly tells you that God is not a man or human being.

So jesus can never be God..

She is Kali maa

She is the keeper of balance..

Without her there would be chaos

tctrills:
You forget that the bible calls Jesus Christ God and that the old testament God was called calls the 'man of war.'

Read and understand..don't take text out of context...

First, the covenant isn't "old." It is an everlasting covenant, still in effect. Torah is instruction for mankind, all mankind. It was known from the beginning. Several instances are given from Genesis 2 through Exodus 19 to prove that. It was given again to a mixed multitude coming out of Egypt.

After YHVH gave Torah (the instructions), He told of the blessings that would be received for choosing to keep the commandments and the curses for choosing not to. He said, "See, I have set before you this day life and good, and death and evil...therefore CHOOSE LIFE." Read Deut 30:15-20.

"Salvation" is available to all who choose to keep the commandments of the covenant.

Eze 18:27-28 When the wicked man turns away from his wickedness (REPENTS) that he has committed and does that which is lawful and right (KEEPS THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE COVENANT), he shall SAVE HIS SOUL ALIVE. Because he considers and turns away from all his transgressions that he has committed, HE SHALL SURELY LIVE, HE SHALL NOT DIE.

HE SHALL SURELY LIVE, HE SHALL NOT DIE. What does this mean? We know our flesh is going to die, so this is speaking of our soul; he shall "SAVE HIS SOUL ALIVE."

If you will read all of Ezekiel chapter 18, you will find that no man can die for another man's sin. Everyone is responsible for their own sin. No one's wickedness can be put upon you, and no one's righteousness can be put upon you. YHVH gave you the way to save your soul alive; it's up to you to choose to do it. REPENT AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.

Some say Rome is Edom. Tanakh tells us Esau is Edom. If Rome is Edom and Esau is Edom, who is Rome? Rome created christianity which is totally diametrically opposed to Tanakh, the word of YHVH. They gave you a man-god idol to worship and told you that with his death and resurrection he brought you a "new" covenant and your sins are forgiven. Rome lies to you and tells you YHVH's EVERLASTING covenant is OLD and obsolete; the law is done away with, and you don't have to follow it.

When we read Eze 18:27-28 above, did you see anything in there about a man-god idol you must believe in to obtain salvation? Did you see anything in there about needing a mediator or intercessor to go to YHVH for you? Did you see anything in there about someone else dying to save you from the responsibility of your sins? No, you didn't. These are all lies from Rome.

YHVH tells us His covenant is everlasting. But Rome tells you YHVH's covenant is old and obsolete and that their man-god idol brought you a new covenant.

YHVH tells us he doesn't change. But Rome has the audacity and arrogance to change what YHVH says.

YHVH tells us human sacrifice is an abomination. But Rome brought you a human man-god idol to sacrifice for your sins.

YHVH tells us we must do what is lawful and right (keep the commandments of the covenant) to save our soul alive. But Rome tells you the law has been fulfilled by their man-god idol, nailed to the cross, done away with, abolished and you don't have to follow it.

YHVH's covenant is still in effect. It will be RENEWED but not until the latter days. It will be renewed with those who keep the commandments of the covenant, Israel. It will be renewed by writing it on our hearts as opposed to stone.

YHVH or man-god idol.
Join Israel or stay in Rome.
Keep the commandments or "just believe" in Rome's man-god idol.
"Old" covenant or "new" covenant.

This is YOUR choice, YOUR responsibility, and YOUR soul at stake.

CHOOSE WISELY!”

God is within us...

tctrills:
The world was created by Jesus Christ. The bible clearly calls Jesus Christ God.

For it to be right, it has to be true across board.
Numbers 23:19 says God is not a man, so jesus cannot be god....

Something to think about.

Me think jesus is a creation of the Roman empire to deceive people with little mind...

Take time to research and think about it..

God does not make mistake..so the idea of old or new testament is misleading and insulting to God...
The Jewsish scribes wrote the Tanakh for their national religion called Judaism. Which they created when they exited the Babylonian exile..
When the Roman became the world power and conquered Jewish territories they stole the Tanakh and other precious materials from the temple. When one of the emperor's wanted a single religion for the empire they created one and made a christ for themselves and super glued their forged books at the back of the Jewish one which basically all contain a mistranslation of the Jewish one. Like for example they mistranslated Almah in Isaiah 7:14 which was Isaiah's young wife who was pregnant for Isaiah and the son being a sign for king Ahaz that his kingdom will withstand the treat posed by the northern kingdom and syria.to a virgin ....As well as passages not related to the Messiah....etc.
Christianity is idolatry..if you are wise run away from it.

Just to deceive gullible people..

God created everything on twos...

Light and darkness
Good and evil
Night and day
Cold and hot
Birth and death..

He created us with the ability to choose..

What are supposed to choose from??

Between the two....
Deuteronomy 28 says

I places both before you.......

There is no such thing as devil.

It is only God., God is the only power in the world, that is why it is called a UNIverse...

All power belongs to God.

Power to save
Power to kill

Power to destroy
Power to create..

They all belong to God.

There is NO devil in the equation..

Ireportlive:
Yeshau is niether a Christian nor a Muslim, he was born a Jew and practiced Judaism

Although when he was taken away to Egypt because of king herod that wanted him dead, he was said to have learnt Egyptian religious practices , but he remained devoted to Judaism

That's according to the story..

But history knows no such individual.

Something to ponder about..

TheDictatorNd:
If christianity is of God why do they have different doctrines and believes

It was created by the father of confusion..

No...

It is Eledumare and his son sonmuayina that created the universe.

I was there.

I was the one who gave you guys fish brain. So that you can not think and find out the truth.

I sincerely doubt if Muhammad actually existed. Islam was created by Christians who where oppose to the trinity doctrine of the Catholics...

KnownUnknown:
Appreciation? No!!!
More like subservient, slavish, and obsequious. That’s why you don’t see the absurdities in Judaism.

I don't see any, because I understand it..

Unlike you that can't understand.

You keep looking at my fingers when am pointing to(@) the moon...

MaxInDHouse:
You said:



So what makes you think i need Salvation in the first place if everyone will be saved?

Study the Torah and learn Gods laws...

Leave all this distraction..

KnownUnknown:
Even though the whole thing is based on Judaism.



But the “comparative analysis” is limited to defending Judaism.

Not defending...appreciation..
And showing the absurdities in Christianity..

MaxInDHouse:
NO! Salvation is in Christ Jesus, so if you don't acknowledge Christ Jesus you can never ever see everlasting life!

Lol..because where not being saved before he was born?

Olodo

You are a mariner

They are water spirit probably protecting you.

Or there is something you need to do that you have not done. Call am elder in your village to find out...

MaxInDHouse:
Sonmvayina don enter one chance!

Hardly..

All I have set out to prove is that Christianity is not derived from Judaism.

And I am not a Judaist ....

I just do comparative analysis