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MaxInDHouse:
Does that mean three gods?

It simply means people of the nations need to have the knowledge of God through studying what He did in ancient times and how He used the Holy Spirit to accomplish His purpose and the part His only begotten Son will play in the salvation of mankind.

The Jews already had the knowledge of God's word through the scriptures and how His Holy Spirit works but they don't know anything about Jesus and his role in the salvation of mankind that's why Peter didn't baptize them in the name of three but one person: Jesus Christ! Act 2:38

Do you understand now?

These are all failed attempt by jwo at explaining away the Trinity as revealed in that verse.


Who told you three God's? Can't you see that the father Son and Holy ghost has one name?
One God three persons.
Thy baptized in the name of Jesus because name can represent authority.

Dtruthspeaker:
Stop jumping the gun. The bible said "to become sons of God" so stop promoting yourself.

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

MaxInDHouse:
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:Mark 12:29

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.John 20:17

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

chatinent:
Jesus is not God.


If Jesus is God, who did Jesus pray to?

Jesus prayed to the father (another person of God). God is three persons.

chatinent:
That statement is true. I also heard people insulting Pastor Damina Abel when he said the same thing. It shows a lot of Christians don't know the meaning of what being a Christian entails. Clearly, they are Christians because their parent were Christains and their foreparents...

God is not a Christian, never was.


A Christian is a follower of Christ Jesus. Jesus is a follower of God. How can God be a Christian?

Moses was not even a Christian. Name it: Enoch, Samson, David etc! Christianity arrived when Jesus arrived.

Make una dey research o make pastor no dey use your head cook ofe onugbu.

Jesus is God.
Christians are followers of God, we are not just followers but also sons of God. Enoch, samson, David were all followers of God just as Christians now, the only difference is that the God whom they followed took on human form and his name became Jesus.

Steep:
It is a contradiction to say a born again believer may end up in hell.
Don't just type with emotions you have to provide proof from scriptures
Jesus said he will never lose his sheep, his sheep hear his voice and Will not follow another, he says he gives his sheep eternal life and they will never perish, he did not say they may never perish but that they will never perish.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


John further said that he that is born of God sinneth not.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The very definition of a born again already mean they are eternally secured.

So anybody that does not follow Jesus leading/ abide in his doctrine is not a sheep of christ and hence is not saved.

Ken4Christ:
If you must make heaven, you must be born again and walk in the light of God's word. And you are born again the very moment you believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus and confess him as your Lord and Saviour- Romans 10:9-10.

So, its important to be born again. However, the journey to heaven doesn't stop at being born again. You must walk in the light of God's word now that you are saved otherwise heaven will elude you.

There are so many Christians who are born again but do not walk in the light of God's word. Some have the wrong teaching of eternal security. There is no such thing.

Highlighted below are some of the reasons some born again believers will not make heaven;

1. No Brotherly Love
2. Lukewarmness
3. Unfruifullness
4. Habitual Abstinence from Church Services and Lateness to Church.
5. Unforgiven.
6. Evil Speaking and Slander
7. Causing Division in Church

The list is not exhaustive. I will begin to explain the highlighted points one by one.

It is a contradiction to say a born again believer may end up in hell.
Don't just type with emotions you have to provide proof from scriptures
Jesus said he will never lose his sheep, his sheep hear his voice and Will not follow another, he says he gives his sheep eternal life and they will never perish, he did not say they may never perish but that they will never perish.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.


John further said that he that is born of God sinneth not.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

The very definition of a born again already mean they are eternally secured.

Krismas:
1. The existence of god a fact?? Do u even know wot fact means?
2. Is god the sun? Ur analogy is stup1d
3. How will anyone BELIEVE in wot is self evident? Believe is blind faith in fiction! Or u don’t even know wot u talking about?
4. Here is where it gets interesting. Knowing the truth is so important. It’s the difference between stagnation and liberation. To imply such requirement is not necessary says alot about you. You think U DONT MATTER?

1.The existence of God is a fact. God by definition is a spaceless, timeless and immaterial. For space, time and matter to exist it requires a being outside of space, time and immaterial and that being is God.
2. Using insult does not make you smart, go and search for the meaning of analogy.
3.faith is not belief without evidence, true faith requires evidence.
4. You might think you matter but if you are just a bunch of interacting particles then you are no different from a stone or other materials.

MissOpe:
Don't mind people of such contradictory faith, their only reason for accepting God is cos of fear of torment in hell, however I think without religion, human race would have got extinct or woulda be in extreme chaos .....

If human race is just mindless atoms and molecules interacting with other molecules then the survival of human race means nothing.
Listen if you are just a mindless combination of molecules and atoms then you have no inherent value but we know that is not true, human value goes beyond what the body.

MissOpe:
If God exists , who created God?
If Nobody created God, then nobody created Man and the other things of nature.
Everything just happened like the big band theory claimed.

God by definition is uncreated, he is spaceless, timeless and immaterial. Evidence have shown that the universe (space time) had an origin. The material universe had an origin and it will so end, evidence have shown it.

The Big Bang theory does not say things happen themselves, scientist simply say they don't know what caused the big bang.

MissOpe:
But is it man's fault that he's proud or arrogant naturally?
Naturally, he made man so evil and animalistic in nature, you now told him to be humble and good and run away from evil , the same evil you made so dominant in him..
Then you threaten him that if he does that evil , he will burn in fire for ever.
I think God tempted us in the first place and not the other way round...He should worship me and not me worshipping him.

God didn't create man evil, man can do both good or evil.

Spirit7957:
They will tell you that there are many rooms in my father's house in heaven and they struggling to pay house rent on earth
Thats Danny my guyyy..

Be giving those oversabi Christians sleepless nights.
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I don't know if there's a God or not.
But it's obvious it/he/she does not interfere in the affairs of men.
No special benefits whatsoever for believing in the existence of a God.

As a Nigerian,you'd still fail exams if u do not prepare well. You'd still fail interviews with no proper connections. You'd still fall sick, get involved in accidents that may even claim your life, get kidnapped and die gruesome death.

I ask,what's that special benefit do believers actually get from their so call relationships with god

believe in the existence does not put food on your table or pay your house rent. You have to work and exercise your knowledge to make money.
One of the problem especially in Africa and specifically in Nigeria is that we think that belief in God should be of our material benefit.

Krismas:
a time is coming, god will be completely exposed as the greatest FRAUD ever invented by white man, to scam blacks.
people worship god, cos they want unmerited favours, they want something for nothing, they want miracle, they want a scenario where their actions will suffer no retribution. they want to give N200 and recieve N1,000,000. whats diff between this and MMM? or ponzi? or even bet9ja?they are all deceiving themselves. god is scam

How can a fact become scam. Is the existence of sun a scam? What if someone does not believe the sun exist does it somehow mean the sun does not exist?
Your belief or non belief has has no impact on the fact that God exist.

ReacherSaidNoth:
God is a scam. Imagine claiming to have created everything but the only place people can find you is in a silly storybook.

Yahweh worshippers, if the white man did not force your weak ancestors to follow his religion, how would you have come to believe all the imaginary nonsense fed to you as truth?

God is not white or black God is a Spirit. He is invisible

Eriokanmi:
What is this one spewing? You're telling who there's no God? Smh!

Who tells you that you can fall sick even if you trust or believe God? White lies. I can't remember the last time I took paracetamol, talk more of any drugs. I am AA by genotype and O+ by blood group. We're susceptible to malaria and other common ailments. I'm a believer of God. He's proven His existence to me tines without number. I've heard him speak and it was real what He said.

The first time I ever experienced this was when He told me I'd be rusticated from an exam hall during our last paper before graduation. I was like, how would this happen? Me wey be bookworm? I knelt down and prayed fervently to rebuke it.

On the day it happened, it was in the same hall He showed me in the vision, same lecturer who caught me in that vision was staying in same location, wearing same cloth. There was one guy who was disturbing me behind my seat, asking me to show him a particular number I had treated. I asked him to wait but he was restless. He now said he'd send me those numbers he did and before I said jack, he had sent me the expo. That instant, something brought that vision back to my memory and suddenly 5 invigilators walked in, checking our answers booklets page by page, shaking it wildly in case something hidden would drop and I was 4th on the row, the lecturer standing by the wall was watching and the espo the guy gave me was hidden in-between my booklet.

The moment they got to number 3 on that row, I carefully squeezed the paper and wildly threw it underneath the bench backwards. They rushed at me, I told them my pen fell and I picked it up, I was asked to step oirside the bench. They searched everywhere but the saw nothing. I was asked to remain standing for a few minutes. The moment I was asked to sit down, I couldn't write further I just submitted and left to thank God. The monemt I was rushed at, the lecturer standing by the window said you! Stand up...he caught someone else instead of me and the guy was rusticated. If you're close to God, you'd know He truly exists. But when you keep knacking women upandan, drinking all manner of liquor and taking drugs,, indulging in night clubs and bad things which God frowned at, you won't see His face except you truly repent

I was to visit Europe one particular year but I didn't have money. The distributors meeting was so crucial to the growth of my ypung company so I went to observe 3 days fasting and prayer at the camp. On the 3rd day, 2 different customers who weren't owing me, to whom I didn't also sell any product credited my account , one did with almost half a million and the other did 325k. Na so I buy my ticket , travel . Over there in Germany, accommodation and feeding was free as arranged. When I came back, momey don enter account and one of the customers called and said they paid into my account in error. I refunded it with boldness and sahakara. After I had used the money to achieve my mission.

There are many benefits in knowing God. God exists and speaks to only those who are close to Him and believe Him. Only fools would say God doesn't exist. The bible says so.

Yes you can fall sick and experience hardship even if you believe in God, have you read the book of job? Do you know Elisha became sick before he died? Paul had eye issue, even advice Timothy not to drink too much water because of his health?
That someone experienece hardship is not because he doesn't believe in God or that God is not with him.

If there is no God then there is no good and evil, everything is just a matter of personal or collective opinion. So if someone like he can kill you it is his opinion, you can't say what boko haram/Islamic terrorists are doing is wrong, no body can determine wrong from right, survival for the fittest, might is right will be the order of the day.
You can't say that rape,murder, stealing, fraud etc are bad it all becomes a matter of personal preference.

Depends on your definition of perfection, if it is moral perfection then no one can be perfect except Jesus but if it is the perfection in one's walk in faith in God years.

Abraham, Noah etc were not perfect morally but were perfect in their walk with God.

It is all about control, preparing the control system for their master to take over.

PulsingPurple:
I love this response.

Faith — Hope — Love.

Love is the greatest, Faith is actually the least. Faith is like the prerequisite, the stepping stone.
God is Spirit and we are Flesh, Flesh can't see Spirit. It takes a certain amount of convincing to believe what you do not see, that's the only reason why it is a big deal.

After the initial Faith, you start to see so many evidences, and those evidences in turn continue to boost your faith.

🙌🏽

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ThatFairGuy1:
Idiots..


If I become king, I'll open my head thesame way In Masjidul Haram.

Is there anyone bigger than Allah?

Idiotic people

allah is an idol just like obatala, ogun etc
Mohammad inherited his father's idols and then focused on allah which is one of the chief gods of the kabaal.

DeusXmachina:
Belief
Noun
1. Mental acceptance of a claim as true.
"It's my belief that the thief is somebody known to us."
2.Faith or trust in the reality of something; often based upon one's own reasoning, trust in a claim, desire of actuality, and/or evidence considered.
"My belief is that there is a bear in the woods. Bill said he saw one.
Based on this data, it is our belief that X does not occur."

Faith
Noun
1.The process of forming or understanding abstractions, ideas, or beliefs, without empirical evidence, experience or observation

Belief or faith is considered the highest virtue in our 2 most prominent religions. Islam and Christianity.
To the point that only those who primarily believe in Christ and his death and resurrection are considered to have salvation in Christianity, and anyone else that doesn't 'believe' this faces damnation.

Something similar with Islam, in which belief in the Shahada, is the foundation to being a Muslim. That Allah is the only God and Muhammad is his last messenger, and only through 'belief' in this can one have to the mercy of Allah and avoid eternal damnation.

So my question is why is belief the highest virtue, why the God(s) of these religions place such emphasis on this, and not any other action.

Discuss.

In Christianity faith is not the highest virtue, it is love, love is the greatest.
By the way, in Christianity faith relies on evidence and faith itself becomes the evidence.

Don't confuse assurance of salvation with salvation itself, while it is necessary for all who claim that christ is their Lord or think they stand to make sure they are really standing or they are really in the faith, there is huge evidence in the bible that those who are truly saved will never lose their salvation.

paulpromise:
[THE KINGDOM OF GOD]
The lord took me to heaven, praise the lord, blessed be the lord, God of Israel from everlasting and to everlasting. Amen and Amen.(psalm 41:13)when we get to heaven, I could saw, it was very, very beautiful, the ground is like a mirror, I was very happy and i have this thought in me that i will never leave the place. I could head the beautiful voice of the angels praising. God (psalm 1o3:1-3)and the lord told me, tell my people, my kingdom is very real, blessed are those who inherit it, i could saw many beautiful flowers, very great and precious(psalm119:129-135)

THE TREE OF LIFE]
And the lord took me to a place in heaven behold i saw the tree of life afar, it was very beautiful and shinning like a gold.(Revelation 22:2) and the lord told me, i preserved this tree of life for my people, tell them that blessed are they that keep my commandment, that they may have right to the tree of life.(Revelation 22:14) and we left the place.

[THE CHILDREN THAT WOMEN ABORTED]
The lord took me to a very big hall in heaven, and i saw many little children, they were filled with the glory of God and they were praising God.(psalm 86:11-13) and the lord told me "This are the children that women aborted on earth, they belong to me and they will be in my glorious kingdom."(Psalm89:1-2)and we left the place.

[ANGEL GABRIEL VISITATION]
While the lord was speaking with me, behold i saw an angel, he was handsome and tall, he has a crown on his head, and the lord told me "It is angel Gabriel" i was very happy to meet him and the lord told him to take me to many place in heaven so that i will tell others.

[KING DAVID IN HEAVEN]
Angel Gabriel took me to a place in heaven, behold I saw a very big house in heaven, and Angel Gabriel told me that "It was the house of king David" and i told him I want to see king David face to face and he took me and we enter his room, and behold i saw king David, he was praising God with psalms and he was dancing for God.(psalm 34:1-6) and i greeted him and he called my name "Senayon,you are welcome" i was very surprise of how he knew my name and he began to tell me that "Senayon,you no longer praised God, you never want to danced for God, when you praise God and you dance for him, his grace will be closer to you". And i asked him 'how do you know this?, do you saw me on earth? Or you are awarded of my life on earth? And he laughed and said "I speak not on my own" and i later discovered it was God that was talking to me through him. And he gave me a small book and said "eat it, eat it", and when i ate the book, then i began to said "I am thirsty, I am thirsty" because i was very thirsty and they gave me the blood of Jesus Christ to drink, and when i drank it, behold i was shaken as if i was feeling cold, For more than five minute, but angel gabriel and king David just knee down saying "Glory be to God"(psalm 29:1-11) while i was still shaken, and when i stopped shaken, king David told me that "Now you will praise God and dance for him, tell the people to praise the almighty and his grace will be closer to them".
And angel Gabriel told me "Senayon,you have to see many thing here, let us go". But i said 'No, I don’t want to leave king David, please'. But he never listened to me and we left king David house.

[PROPHET ELIJAH HOUSE]
Angel Gabriel took me to another place in heaven, and I saw another big house and it was very beautiful, and angel Gabriel told me "It was the house of prophet Elijah", i was very happy and i said "i want to see him" and angel Gabriel took me to the house and behold i saw a very young man, he was very handsome and he said " Senayon, welcom", i was very happy to saw him, and i said " You are very powerful on earth, i have read about you in the Bible", but he said "A fire is burning in your heart, you will be powerful than me". (2 Corinthians 10:4-5) and he told me many thing about me. And angel Gabriel told me "Senayon, we have to leave now because you have many thing to see here" and we left the place

[THE HOUSE OF APOSTLE PAUL]
Angel Gabriel took me to another place in heaven, and behold i saw a very big house in heaven, it was build with gold and was decorated with precious stone, and Angel Gabriel told me "It was the house of Apostle paul", and I said i wanted to see him, he was a model to many Christians, and angel gabriel took me to his house and behold i saw a very young man resting in a beautiful room and he said "Senayon, you are welcome, I am very happy to see you" i was just surprise how they knew my name, but they knew it because the glory of God was in them, there was no need for me to tell them my name before they know it. And he began to tell me his life story in the book of Acts 8:1-4, Acts 9:1-31, and at the end he said "I make used of the grace that Jesus gave to me and i never make it useless". And he gave me a small book and said "eat it, eat it" and when i ate it, i never thirst for any thing because it was so sweet, and Apostle Paul said "Now you will preach
the gospel and teach the testimonies of Jesus christ, you will teach some of my epistles that i have not yet written out"(Romans 8:35-39) and angel Gabriel and apostle paul was just praising God.(Romans 4:20-25) (2 Corinthians 5:13-18) and we left the place, i was very happy because heaven is so beautiful and it was full of the glory of God.(Revelation 21:18).

[THE HOUSE OF FATHER ABRAHAM]
Then angel Gabriel took me to a place in heaven, and i saw another big house and very beautiful and decorated with precious stone and flowers, and angel Gabriel told me, it was the house of father Abraham. And i told angel Gabriel to took me there because i want to see him. And angel Gabriel took me there and when i saw father Abraham i said "father of faith, father of faith" and he just began to advise me about my life, he told me many thing, "YOU MUST HAVE FAITH IN WHATEVER YOU ASK THE FATHER" AND BE PATIENT IN EVERY SITUATION".(Jeremiah 33:3)(Matthew 17:20) "faith is real.(Matthew 21:21-22) and we left the place

[SEVEN ANGEL WITH TRUMPET AND WITH FIVE ANGEL DANCING]
Angel Gabriel took me to a place in heaven, behold i saw five angels they were dancing with joy, and i saw seven angel with trumpet. And i asked angel Gabriel to tell me about the mission or work of those angel? And angel Gabriel told me that "If a soul gave his life to Jesus Christ, then those seven angel will blow their trumpet as a sign that one soul has repented, and those five angel will be dancing and the whole heaven will rejoiced. And also if a soul make heaven then the seven angel will blow their trumpet and every angels in heaven will be celebrating for that soul"(luke 15:7) there is a great joy in heaven over a soul that repented.(Luke 15:10).

[THE OVERCOMERS]
Angel Gabriel took me to a place, it was a very big hall, and angel Gabriel gave me a sword to lifted it up and when i did that, behold, i found my self in a battle field, I saw many people, countless people, they were chained down. And i saw many demons, they were the one that chained those people, and i saw some people, they put on the armour of war and at their back was written 'THE OVERCOMERS' they were fighting the demons in other to set those people that were chained down free, and if they set any one free, the person will run into a room called 'THE SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH'. And i asked angel Gabriel to interpreted it for me and he said " The over comers are the real Christians (1 john 5:4-5) and those who were chained down were the sinners, and those demons are the Assign demon on a mission to take those sinners to hell fire (1 peter 5:8-9) fighting the demons in charge of that sinner means 'preaching for the sinners and praying for them', the room they ran to, to be safe is JESUS CHRIST.(Matthew 11:28-30) and that was why is called 'THE SECRET PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH'(psalm 91:1)". You must pray hard so that God may deliver you from the demon on a mission to take you to the pit of hell fire.

[THE SANCTIFICATION]
Angel Gabriel took me to a place in heaven, it was very beautiful, it was decorated with pure gold, the ground was a transparent glass, many great beautiful flowers, and precious stone, and i saw a gold fixed up and i told angel Gabriel that i want to touched that gold that was fixed up. And angel Gabriel carried me on his shoulder, and i began to touched those gold that was fixed up. And i told angel Gabriel that i don’t want to leave that place, i was crying because the place was so showy(Revelation 21:18-19) but angel Gabriel told me that "No, you have many thing to see here and is very important that you see them" and i told angel Gabriel that "please i don’t want to live a worldly life, please do something about it" and angel Gabriel said "Senayon,come let us go" and we left the place and went to the pool of the blood of Jesus christ. And angel Gabriel asked me "Senayon, do you remember this place?" and i said "yes, I saw this pool of blood in my first encounter with Jesus Christ" and angel Gabriel said "Yes you are right", and we were standing there more than five minute but he did not utter a single word to me. And suddenly, i saw a pure light in blue colour, it came there and carried me into the pool of blood, and an invisible hand was washing me thoroughly in the pool of blood, it pains me and i was crying and begged angel Gabriel to took me out but he just knee down and said "glory be unto God, from everlasting to everlasting, the king of kings and the awesome God"(psalm 95:1-6) and behold, i saw my earthly body on bed, and something dark was rushing out of my body and i was surprise that such a thing live in my body.(psalm 51:12-15) and when the invisible hand was through washing me and that pure light took me out of the pool of blood.(psalm 51:8-11) and behold i heard a loud voice, it sound like a thunder saying "Now you will remember what you saw here and you will live as I want, you are no more an ordinary man because i have sanctified you" and that voice began to talked to me about a brother that trained me up in the way of the Lord, his name is IJAWJAW EAMON MARK, the lord told me many thing about him that he will fulfilled his covenant upon him and he has given him the garment of perfection. And the voice told me many thing about many people. And i told angel Gabriel that "please i want to see the person that am hearing his voice" and angel Gabriel told me "i don’t have the power to take you there, but follow me" and we left the place.
[THE THRONE OF THE FATHER]
Angel Gabriel took me back to Jesus Christ and he explained to Jesus Christ that I wanted to see the father and i now get it that it was the father that was talking to me in the pool of blood. And Jesus smile and held my hand saying "Do you want to see the father?" and i said 'yes' and on our way to the place, we pass through a hall and i saw many angels, they will sudden knee down and said "GLORY BE TO GOD"(Psalm 84:11) and when we get out of the hall, behold i saw a powerful light on a throne, it was light like a fire that was burning, we were so far, many miles far from the throne, and it was like i want to fall down, I dont have any strength to walk towards the throne any more and i just began to begged the lord saying "please take me back" and Jesus said "That is the father, don’t you want to see him AGAIN?" and i said "yes, please, please, I want to die, I can not breath right again" and Jesus smile and took me back to angel Gabriel.
[THE BOOKS BEFORE THE ANGEL]
Angel Gabriel took me to a place in heaven, and we entered a big room, then i saw some group of angels, they were writing names, and also erasing some names from the books, but i was given opportunity to visit four of those angels. And i asked angel Gabriel to explained every thing to he and me smile. The first angel i contact was the angel in charge of the book of life. And angel Gabriel said "This book, is the book that contain the name of the new born again Christian and also the name of the real Christians and the name of the saved people"(Revelation 3:5) and i asked him to tell me the reason why the angel was erasing some names and putting another name, and he said "Those are the backsliders"(Revelation 2:4-5) and i said "do you mean, their name will be erased for ever from the book of life?' and he smile and said "NO, this is the holy book and it can not contain the name of the sinners" and I said 'tell me where those name the angel erased will be written? And he me to another angel, and the angel too was writing some names and erasing some names. And angel Gabriel said "This is the backsliders book; it contain the name of those who turned away from the lord, and the reason the angel was erasing some names, is because, any backslider that come back to the Lord, his name will be written back into the book of life(Revelation 20:15) and the name he was writing back is the name of the backsliders(Jeremiah 3:22). And he took me o another angel, the angel was working so hard, but he was only writing names but not erasing names. And angel Gabriel said "This book is the book that contain the names of those who ended up to hell fire in every day, and is called 'The condemnation book'' and angel Gabriel told me "The names will only be written only if a sinners died without haven Jesus Christ in their life"(Revelation 20:12). And we left the place. And angel Gabriel took me to another angel, he was only writing names but not erased names. And angel Gabriel said "This book is the book that contain the name of those who pay their tithe(Malachi 3:8-12). And that angel that was writing the name shout "He has paid, he has paid" and immediately I saw an angel, he came there and open a beautiful room and in that room was many precious gold in a box, and the angel entered the room and took one of those precious gold and went away. And i told angel gabriel to tell me what was inside the box that the angel took away, and angel Gabriel said "YES,IT IS THE GREAT BLESSING OF THE LORD TO ANY ONE THAT PAID HIS TITHE FAITHFULLY"(Obadiah 1:15) and we left the place.

He said " Paul said he would teach what he has not written"
Here is what the scripture has to say.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Anybody that simply comes and preach what the apostles have not preached is cursed.

Paul said any man that reads his epistles would understand his knowledge of the mystery of Christ.

Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Livingdeath:
hey guys,I need advice. recently I have been reading the Bible alot...as in alot,and I have seen the many commandents the Catholic church is breaking....so I left.But I am really scared on telling my Mum and Dad about it. any advice?(am in university yr 2)

becareful, check the doctrine and teachings of any church if it is indeed scriptural before joining them.
I thank God your eyes are open to some of the errors of Roman catholicism.
For your parents continue to be obedient towards them, lovingly point them to christ as the ultimate and all sufficient saviour. Lead them in prayers and show good examples and very soon they would join you.

Sand2022:
You should be arguing with someone else then. My earlier point you started to attack has this the main point. The words of Jeremiah was not viewed as inspired by the religious leaders of his day. But now, it is. The same is true of God's prophets today. The point is that rejection of prophets when they are alive is common. It didn't start today. If this is not important, then leave my comments alone. That is one of the proof of my comment you were responding to.[/b]

Even if according to you, they didn't initially accepted Jeremiah's message as inspired but they later did, because it meets the requirement for scripture.

Go and.make.research my friend.

you should make that research. You seem to to think any book could be called scripture.

See your comment that made me reply that:



That was the comment oga. Stop giving me more work. Then you now said something in your comment below that contradict this your comment above, see below.



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In your comment above, you said:

"in the new testament the scripture are written by the apostles."

Now you're saying that it was written by both the apostles and those who were with the apostles.

You're giving me more work oga.

the apostles didn't set any new testament canon. They just wrote their letters, it was still others who loved God that assembled these books and declare them canon. The time it was accepted as canon was not the time God started viewing them as inspired. As they spoke the word from God, it was inspired from then.

I think you should research this subject well, and stop creating work for me abeg

let me make it as simple as possible.
What is the scripture ?
In crhistianity it is a book or books of authority for teaching doctrine and for correction.
However, teachings , and doctrine comes through the apostles ( for the new testament) and prophets ( for the old testament).
Canonization means searching and putting together books written by the prophets and apostles. For the old testament, it the books which were written by the prophets or which contains the teachings of the prophets were already known and preserved by the jews, even if at the time of the prophets they were not accepted but the writings of the rejected prophets were laterfound to be scriptures as it meets the requirements of a book by a true prophet.

each that the Gospel of St Luke was actually the Gospel of Saint Paul; that this apostle had dictated it to St. Luke, and that when he speaks of his gospel, as in Romans 11:16 and 16:25 and Thessalonians 11:12, he means the Gospel of Luke.

The apocryphals do not meet the requirement.

AbuTwins:
How is that related to Jacob in the Bible and the Qur'an?

If you have nothing to input here it's better to go and sleep bro!

Holy spirit has lost network!

Why are you dodging your pedophile prophet.

😂Allah that cannot have a son without a girl friend, Mary is greater than Allah, she could conceive without a man. Stupid prophet Mohammad and his useless idol allah.

AbuTwins:
Jacob is the English translation of course! Arabic is Ya'qub, Hebrew is Ya'akov!

Of what use is that? The Qur'an is not a history book. As i said in the final statements of the post, the Qur'an is Allah-focused not people focused!

How do you know it is truthfully telling you anything? The fact is that Jacob is portrayed as a sissy! God's blessings can be snatched by deceit. Even Isaac and Rebekah were poor role models unbefitting of a Godly family!

You need proof to make this assertion and you have none! Abraham's son Isaac was a Prophet in Islam as well as Jacob and then Joseph. They were all good role models in Islam. Biblically they are mostly poor role models!


Let's say you are aggrieved but you shouldn't cry here! Falsehood is falsehood. The Old Testament was not even written by Moses!
The first five books of the Old Testament (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy) are traditionally attributed to Moses. However, modern scholarship suggests that these books are a compilation of multiple sources known as the JEDP sources (Jahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, Priestly sources).

Make i hold up small!

So a prophet that raped a 9 years old girl is the example of a godly man, abi?

AbuTwins:
The same verse i quoted earlier! Let me make it bold! Use your glasses now!

2. In Genesis 11:32, it mentions that Terah lived to be 205 years old and then he died in Haran.

four verses later Abraham left Haran!

3. Genesis 12:4 states that Abraham was 75 years old when he departed from Haran.

There is nothing here that suggest Abraham left after his father died.

AbuTwins:
It's in the context!

2. In Genesis 11:32, it mentions that Terah lived to be 205 years old and then he died in Haran.

four verses later Abraham left Haran!

3. Genesis 12:4 states that Abraham was 75 years old when he departed from Haran.

So which context told you Abraham's father was dead before he left?

AbuTwins:
The calculation regarding the age of Terah when he fathered Abraham is done by comparing the ages and lifespans of the individuals mentioned in the genealogy provided in Genesis.

1. According to Genesis 11:26, Terah was 70 years old when he fathered Abraham, Nahor, and Haran.
2. In Genesis 11:32, it mentions that Terah lived to be 205 years old and then he died in Haran.
3. Genesis 12:4 states that Abraham was 75 years old when he departed from Haran.

By subtracting the age of Terah when he fathered Abraham (70) from the total years of Terah's life (205), we get 205 - 70 = 135 years. This would mean that Terah lived for 135 years after the birth of Abraham. However, since Abraham was 75 years old when he left Haran after Terah's death, it implies that Terah must have been at least 130 years old when he died (135 years after Abraham's birth), which is inconsistent with the information given in the genealogy. This discrepancy suggests a copyist error in the text.

Abraham should have been at least 135 years old when his father died but the Bible claimed he was 75 years!


How do we explain this mathematically?

Where was it written that, Abraham's father was dead when he left?