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Science/Technology › Re: Why Is There Sun In The Space And The Space Is Still Very Dark by Steep(m): 12:30pm On Apr 29, 2024

Emusan:
How do you know this?

Have you ever viewed the night sky on a clear night and observer stars moving and the enormosity of the number of stars? Well that is through the naked eye, which is very limited, researches and observation have being made with enormous size and powerful telescopes in space and they were able to estimate the number of stars in the galaxy note it is just an estimate.
Through study and observation it was found out that space is actually expanding and according to Albert Einstein the speed of light in space is a constant which was found to be less than the rate of the expansion of the universe.

Science/Technology › Re: Why Is There Sun In The Space And The Space Is Still Very Dark by Steep(m): 12:20pm On Apr 29, 2024

Emusan:
Waooo with around 400 Billions stars, there shouldn't be anything like night in our galaxy.

That is because space is unimaginably large and it is expanding faster than the speed of light so that light from distant galaxies can never catch up.

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Science/Technology › Re: Why Is There Sun In The Space And The Space Is Still Very Dark by Steep(m): 12:17pm On Apr 29, 2024

The sun is an average star and there are approximately 100 billion stars in the milky way galaxy. There are stars that hundreds of times bigger than the sun. There are approximately 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe, each having billions of stars in them. The observable universe is just a speck of the actual size of the universe which is currently unknown.

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Family › Re: My Husband Kicked Me Out After A DNA Test Revealed He Wasn’t My Daughter Dad by Steep(m): 4:39pm On Apr 27, 2024

Dione007:
these christians smh

That is not Christianity, it is simply ignorance.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 6:24pm On Apr 24, 2024

AbuTwins:
Muhammad dictated it and his scribes wrote it down! Afterwards it was recited back to him.

What's the word? Discuss the etymology of the word and its various meanings?

"ummi" it means one that is not familiar with the scriptures.

This is the text. I asked for the context?

you tell me the context.

I have. Jesus said to Israelites that he is the way....He was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel! (John 14:6 and Matthew 15:24)

All of a sudden you forgot context. You took two different scriptures and merge them neglecting their context abdool.

Adam had no father and mother!
Even had no mother!
Jesus had no father!
Others have father and Mother!

But only Jesus is God to you because he has no father as if God didn't create Adam and Eve earlier!

abdool did you read What you wrote?
By the way the reason allah said he cannot have a son, is because he had no consort.
In the Qur'an we find the following two statements:

39:4
Had Allah wished to take to Himself a son,
He could have chosen whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create:
but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.)
He is Allah, the One, the Irresistible. (Yusuf Ali)
If Allah had willed to choose a son,
He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created.
Be He Glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute. (Pickthall)

6:101
Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth;
How can He have a son when He has no consort?
He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
Sura 39:4 and 6:101 agree on the actuality, that Allah does not have a son, but they contradict each other in the issue of ability or possibility.

Sura 39:4 clearly states that God could have taken Himself a son from among his creation, i.e. without the necessity of a consort to father such a son. But Sura 6:101 clearly rejects the same idea as a logical impossibility.

See how allah made poopoo.

Christianity Etc › Re: No Proof That The Father, Son And Spirit Are Coequal And Coeternal In The Bible by Steep(m): 4:44pm On Apr 24, 2024

AbuTwins:
I think you have failed to prove the Bible is not corrupted!

You tried to argue for Trinity in the other thread but you failed woefully!

If you have nothing to chip in here just keep mute as other Christians are doing!

you mean the other thread that you ran away from?
The burden is on you prove how it has corrupted.
Produce the uncorrupted book?
Why does allah ask you to confirm from it?

Christianity Etc › Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Steep(m): 4:07pm On Apr 24, 2024*

All processes which we see all the time usually have a cause, so we can also assume the universe itself had a cause which is outside of itself, so the cause itself would be outside of the universe and timeless, because space and time are characteristics of the universe and due to the order and design inherent in the universe, that cause must be personal and intelligent, and also the cause must be more powerful than the universe and since it is timeless, it must be all powerful, all knowing and since itself must be beyond space it must be omnipresent, a super personal being.
Order and design are characteristics of intelligence and intelligence a property of personhood, so the timeless, spaceeless being must be powerful beyond time, knowledgeable beyond time and a super person.
This is God.

The creation is a proof of the existence of God.

To know which God is the true God, you have to also seek out evidence.
out of all religion, evidences point to judeo Christian God.
The greatest test is to test the claim of each religion.
In Christianity the test is Jesus christ, The life, death and resurrection of christ is the test for Christianity.
Jesus lived a perfect life no religion on earth has any bad thing to say about Jesus christ, some call him a prophet, a teacher or a good man, every founded of religion apart from Christianity has one flaw or the other but Jesus is exactly perfect.
Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the literal revelation of God in the flesh.
Predicted his death and resurrection.
Jesus said when he dies he would rise again on the third, meaning he had power over life and death.
Jesus truly was killed ( he allowed his death) and on the third day he rose.
His resurrection is proven by the many witnesses after his resurrection. The witnesses saw Jesus and died to defend their claims.

Was it some mass disillusion?
They didn't just say they saw Jesus, but he stayed with them they touched him and ate with them, he stayed with them for days before his ascension before their very eyes.

For one, Jesus body was guarded by the authorities and it was not possible for his body to be stolen, the soldiers who guarded Jesus body knew the repercussion of allowing Jesus body stolen.
The Disciples could not have stolen Jesus body knowing the repercussion and could not have died defending a lie.
The theory of mass disillusion have being ruled out by experts.
There was zero benefit for defending christ resurrection, rather everything to lose.

The eye witnesses testimony of Jesus resurrection are different from terrorists that die for their religion.
The Disciples didn't kill themselves or others to defend their claim.
The eye witnesses were not defending religion but were defending their claim that Jesus rose on the other hand many religious zealous are defending what others told them without proof.

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Christianity Etc › Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Steep(m): 8:15am On Apr 24, 2024*

jaephoenix:
The second law of thermodynamics states that as energy is transferred or transformed, more and more of it is wasted.
Please how does this imply that the universe was created?
These theists are something else

If the quality of energy is reducing (entropy) then the universe cannot have existed in an infinite time past else all the useful energy would have being wasted in infinite time past ago.

It means the universe definitely has a beginning.

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Christianity Etc › Re: If I Were Still An Atheist, This One Evidence Would Convince Me That God Exists by Steep(m): 9:57pm On Apr 23, 2024

jaephoenix:
Another bare faced lie from Nairaland's chief resident lie-nus.
The Big Bang was estimated to have happened about 13.8 b years ago. But what happens before it is still unknown to scientists. The Big Bang does NOT describe how the universe came by. One of the common misconceptions about the Big Bang model is that it fully explains the origin of the universe. However, the Big Bang model does not describe how energy, time, and space were caused, but rather it describes the emergence of the present universe from an ultra-dense and high-temperature initial state.
So no, Big Bang isnt the very beginning

you seem to believe in an eternal universe. Do you know it is mathematically impossible to have an eternal universe? By the way the word energy is almost like an arbitrary word. You can't have energy without matter and time. Energy is not a thing, just like velocity or speed, they are not a thing.
2nd law of thermodynamics also goes against an eternal universe.
2nd law of thermodynamics means the universe must have a beginning, not just some state of energy that suddenly miraculously began to expand.

Christianity Etc › Re: No Proof That The Father, Son And Spirit Are Coequal And Coeternal In The Bible by Steep(m): 7:58pm On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
Why are you trying so hard to divert the thread? If you have any issues from the Qur'an you can open your thread!

I don't know why some Christians are so keen on avoiding the questions they can't answer only to go to the Qur'an which they think they know better than the Bible!

I don't think you can see your own poop. How can you be asking from a book you call corrupt? Is it not obvious when you are showed one you will quickly dismiss it that it was from a corrupted book?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 7:54pm On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
Racism is embracing one tribe only! Jews!

Muhammad is unlettered! Open your dictionary!

So Mohammad never wrote any book? So who wrote the Koran?

Allah revealed it to the Prophet thorough Angel Gabriel.

An Unlettered man reciting a book! Is that not a sign?

Muhammad was lettered, he did transactions for his wife. The word you Muslims translate as unlettered does not mean unlettered it means people without a book (scripture).

Where did Allah ask us to confirm from you and what is the context of the verses?

here it is. “If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers” (Surah 10:94-95; 16:43).

You are the one always diverting the thread and i go soon report you!

You are the one diverting, I asked you where did Jesus say he is the way for only the children of Israel at that time. You could not.

God is not human that has Penis and sperm!
So He is far above having son!

No!

Stop derailing my threads!

So are you saying a Son cannot be born without penise and sperm? So according to the Koran, how was Jesus born? Whose penis and sperm?

Christianity Etc › Re: No Proof That The Father, Son And Spirit Are Coequal And Coeternal In The Bible by Steep(m): 1:59pm On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
The creed that states the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are coequal and coeternal is the Nicene Creed.

- **Council of Nicaea**: The Nicene Creed was established at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. This council was convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine I to address the Arian controversy, particularly the teachings of Arius, who denied the full divinity of Jesus Christ.

There is no evidence of trinity in the Bible without reading it into some verses and then retranslating it.

This is also true for the creed that the Father = the son = the Holy Spirit!

There's no evidence for this anywhere in the Bible!

The theory was fixed by twisting some biblical references, along with theological reflections and debates of the early Church Fathers and this contributed to the formulation of the Nicene Creed, affirming the equality and eternity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in Christian belief.

Why are you looking for evidence from the book you call corrupt?
Yet your god, allah asked you to confirm Koran from it.
Yet your confused Koran call Jesus word of allah and a spirit from him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 1:49pm On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
Jesus had only Jewish Disciples! The Canaanite woman who came to him he almost send away because she was a Gentile. That's discriminatory and racism!
Matthew 15:26 I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel!

was Jesus racist when he called the jews whom he call the lost sheep?

The Prophet of Allah was involved in the writing of the Qur'an on patchment and leaves!

So mohamad wrote the quoran not allah right?

Jesus didn't write anything not did he authorize anything to be written!

Did allah write the Koran,

Because it contains many signs any human can't reproduce 1,445 years ago!

This is hilarious what signs?

How can the Bible be word of God? God is not the author of confusion!

Why did allah ask you confirm from the people of the book, allah is the most confused entity

Why would God need to born a son?
Did he gave birth through reproduction or adoption?

Why do you like dodging?
Do you believe Jesus when he said he is the son of God? Yes or No

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 12:55pm On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
So Jesus your God was racist? Audhubillah!

How is he a racist when called his disciples (who were mainly jews at first) his sheep?

He said he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. So he is the way, the truth and life only for the Israelites!
We believe Muhammad is Allah's messenger. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc too are Messengers!

So where did he say he was the way only to the jews at that time?

Show me Jesus's words? Did Jesus ever wrote anything or tell anyone to write?

Did allah write the quoran, why then do you believe the quoran is the word of allah?

I can explain Allah based on what He revealed about Himself.

Go ahead explain allah? How do you know the quoran is not a fabrication of mohamad?

How is Jesus the son of God, can you explain the process with proofs from the Bible?

Do you now believe the bible is the word of God?

Genesis 6:2-4: This passage refers to the "sons of God" taking human wives, leading to the Nephilim, which some interpret as fallen angels or divine beings.

Job 1:6: In this verse, the "sons of God" present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also appears among them.

Job 38:7: Here, the "sons of God" are mentioned as rejoicing at the creation of the world.

Psalm 82:6: This verse refers to humans as "gods" or "sons of the Most High."

John 1:12: In the New Testament, this verse speaks of those who believe in Jesus becoming "children of God."

Romans 8:14-17: These verses talk about believers being led by the Spirit of God and becoming heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, indicating their status as "sons of God."

Jesus is also son of God!

Psalm 82:6 “I said, ‘You are “gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.’

So how many sons and Children God get? How did He born them? By reproduction, adoption or metaphor?

Do you believe Jesus he is the only begotten Son of God?

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 7:07am On Apr 22, 2024

AbuTwins:
Of course Jesus told the canaanite woman he was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. He even told her it is not right to toss the Children's bread and toss it to the dogs! Children here represent Israel while you, the woman and other Gentiles are the dogs! Matthew 15:21-28. In the end he gave the woman the crumbs she asked!

Jesus was speaking concerning his earthly healing ministry which was for only the jews.
Yes, anyone outside of God's covenant is a dog, because dogs especially in ancient times are kept outside.

Jesus is the way to God for the Israelites of his time. Those who believed in him we call Muslims!
Muhammad is for the whole world from his time! Those who believes in him we call Muslims!

Jesus never said he was the only way to the Israelites at that time, show me where Jesus said it?
Do you believe in Mohammad so he is your god?

Bring another lie!

what lie?

How can we believe it when it is unexplainable?
You can only be a son to someone by reproduction, adoption or metaphor!

I thought you said you believe Jesus words, what now happened? Can you explain allah? So how come you believe in allah you can't explain?

When Christians do not agree with any of the options above then what do we believe?

The Bible contradicted itself not me!

So which Christian do not believe Jesus is the Son of God?
How does the Bible contradict itself?

Christianity Etc › Re: How Many Wives Did God Give David When He Already Had 7 Wives? by Steep(m): 7:27pm On Apr 20, 2024

AbuTwins:
David had already been married to at least seven known-named wives. (1 Samuel 18:27, 25:42-43, 2 Samuel 3:2-5.)

Then God gave him Saul's wives after Saul
"And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."
2 Samuel 12:8.

So how many wives did David have in total?
Is God for or against Polygamy?

If Polygamy is right for David how is it bad for others?
"Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite. "1 Kings 15:5.

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. Polygamy is not a sin but it is not the original plan of God for marriage. God allowed some certain things till the messiah would be reveal and lead the Israelites to the perfect will of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 7:04pm On Apr 20, 2024

AbuTwins:
What is the context of that verse?

Jesus said many things and you guys interpret it as you like!

Jesus said he is the way! And of course, he is the way for the children of Israel whom he was sent to according to Matthew 15:24

see how you are adding to Jesus words. Jesus did not say he is the way for the children of Israel,
John 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

he said he is the way to the father, and "no man can come to the father but through him

If you say Jesus is the way to God for Israel where does that leave Mohammad? I thought you Muslims believe Mohammad was for the whole world?
Do you believe

[b]Jesus is not the way for the people of Noah or Moses!
Neither is he the way for the people from the time of Muhammad!

All those who believe Jesus in truth till they die are Muslims.
That's what Muslims believe!

If Do Muslims believe Jesus when he call himself the Son of God?

If Jesus was sent by God and the Holy spirit was sent by Jesus then how can they be equal to one another? Does it make any sense?

What it reveals is that the Father is greater than all (Jesus and Spirit).

Jesus is greater than Spirit (Since Jesus sends it).

And we don't believe the Bible is the word of God!

See how you contradicted yourself so you don't believe the bible yet you want me to quote it for you and show you Jesus words when infact you don't believe Jesus said it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 2:20pm On Apr 20, 2024

AbuTwins:
Quote verses to buttress your assertion!

Where did Jesus called himself "logos" (word)?

All this Sunday School theories no dey gel at all!

Even if Jesus said it by himself you won't still believe, you will say it is a c corrupted verse.
For example Jesus said "He is the way, the truth and the Life" Do you Muslims accept his words? No
Do you believe Jesus when he said he is going to send the Holy Spirit who is going to lead his disciples into all truth? Does that not tell you that the Holy Spirit reveal the truth concerning Jesus?

Travel › Re: The Story Of My Bike Accident By Deji Yesufu by Steep(m): 7:14pm On Apr 19, 2024

I pray for your quick recovery in Jesus name

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Christianity Etc › Can Humans Actually Live In Perfect Sinless World? by Steep(op): 4:22pm On Apr 17, 2024

Humans crave for a perfect life but a perfect life is a life devoid of sin.
Humans cannot live without sin hence cannot live in a perfect sinless world.
Scripture reveals that we humans are damaged creatures.

Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

That is why Jesus said you must be born again!
John 3:3 this takes place when we accept Jesus christ our Lord and saviour and his death as the only price needed for our redemption.

This damage can only be fixed in Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

The reason why heaven is so perfect is because God is perfect. A house inhabited by dirty people will also become dirty and a house inhabited by neat people would be neat.
God is building a new creation made up of perfect people in a new heaven and earth.
Do you want to become part of the new creation?
Repent and put your faith in the Lord and saviour Jesus christ today.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Gonna Make War Here, Is It Jesus Or His Father Or The Spirit Or Trinity? by Steep(m): 3:51pm On Apr 17, 2024

AbuTwins:
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns[diadems].

He has a name written on him that no one but he himself knows. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
(Revelation 19:11-16 NIV)

Who is gonna make war with Justice?
Who taught war to the Prince of peace? (that is if it is the Prince of Prince)
Why the bloodied robe?
Sharp sword is even coming from his mouth to strike down nations

You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword,” says the LORD (YAHWEH). Zephaniah 2:12

Do not assume that I (Jesus) have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

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Jesus Christ is the Word of God he exercise the authority and fulfills the plan of the father, he is God. All the plans and intentions of the father are fulfilled by the Son, He is God revealing himself. As the word of God he is the revelation of the father's power, authority and glory, he is also the express image of God meaning. He is God who became visible.

Jesus fulfilled the father's plan to redeem mankind by his sacrifice on the cross, in Revelation he is fulfills the father's will to appear and execute Judgment. He is God coming to execute his judgment on the world.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Joshua Selman Is A False Teacher By Shotola And Yesufu by Steep(m): 2:49pm On Apr 17, 2024*

The charismatic/pentecostal movement just like Roman catholicism and the rest are frought with errors and deceptions they depend on personal experiences and emotions rather than the word of God hence Satan leads them astray.
Once the word of God is kicked out then Satan can have his way, when he came to eve he made eve to doubt the word of word and hence made her fall.
The devil is smart, he infiltrates the churches with his ministers pretending to be of christ but subtly introduce errors.

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Romance › Re: This topic has been removed by Steep(m): 9:44pm On Apr 16, 2024

God is not just a consciousness neither is Jesus just a consciousness.
God is a personal being wants you to know him and to become his own.
God is not a malevolent being he is righteous and holy, he does not tolerate sin.
People do not like the truth that is why they believe all these lies.

People literally have preachers telling them to repent and believe in Jesus but they choose to turn deaf ears, hence they fall into deception.

People love to have a god that is aloof or a non personal God, or a God that has no standard or whose standard is just like them. This is the origin of idols, it is the reasons our ancestors created idols because they cannot have a God that is completely holy, righteous and judgemental.

God is holy, righteous and judgmental, he is a consuming fire but yet he is love.

People love to project Jesus as good and his father as malevolent but Jesus and the father are one, they have one charactera and are united.
Jesus came to this earth because the father sent him in other to save humans from sin.

God is The absolute and ultimate authority and judge, because he is holy he must judge sin.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The judgment for sin is death, this death is separation from God.
Hell is real and it is terrible it is the place of those separated from God.
God is love, life, joy, peace, satisfaction to name a few he is eternal life, separation from God means separation from all the aforementioned.
Hell is the embodiment of despair, untold punishment, darkness, hopelessness, gnashing of teeth and the worst of it all, it is a permanent state for all of eternity.

You choose hell, when you reject the free gift of God which is forgiveness of sin and eternal life in Jesus christ.

God is waiting for you to turn to him through his Son Jesus christ don't reject this, it might be your last chance. There is no reincarnation no second chance, this life is precious don't throw it away make the best decision turn to God through his Son Jesus christ.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye Exposed His Lies By Claiming He Drank Tea With God by Steep(m): 5:44pm On Apr 15, 2024

Sand2022:
This scripture doesn't mean that God can't speak to people today. This command is specifically saying that one can't add to the Mosaic law God gave Moses.

God has been and is still speaking to people today.

After Moses' day, God still spoke to many more prophets He raised like Jeremiah.

The book of revelation you quoted is specifically talking about that revelation or vision God gave to John. It doesn't mean God stopped speaking to people after that time. The last written book is not even revelation but 3John

Not every word God spoke made it to the bible canon. What we now call bible is what group of God lovers assembled for all who feared God. Their picking book so and so doesn't mean the words became God's after their selection. It had always been God's, only that God's human worshipers put them all together. They however, didn't gather all God had ever said to humans on earth. Jesus said many many other words that didn't appear in the bible record. Weren't those Gods word as well?

You need to remember that in most cases, God's true prophets are honoured long time after they die. When they're alive, many don't seem to believe them. Jeremiah and Jesus didn't get a thumbs up from the religious communities they lived in. We need to be careful that we're not becoming the unbelievers of our time.

If some claims to hear from God. It's ok, but what does his work promote? Does it promote what God hates? Does he promote a moral depraved lifestyle? We need to be properly guided lest we become fighters against God.

I don't know much about Adeboye, but I have not seen anything that will make me doubt him. And the biblical proves you bring to make your point doesn't match.

You are wrong in saying that the bible is just a collection of books by God lovers. Everything about the Bible was inspired by God both the writings and the collection where all inspired.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Though God speaks today but anything he say always inline with the already writing down scripture hence scripture serves as the basis to judge spirits if they are of God.

Who told you Jeremiah was not accepted by the religious community.
The jews accepted Jeremiah but rejected christ, the Jewish nation were the ones God used to preserve the old testament while the Christian church were the ones that God used to preserve the new testament, even Jesus christ acknowledge and subjected himself under the authority of the scripture. You will notice that God uses community of the people of God in preserving his word rather than individuals and all the people God used to write the Bible were well known and accepted by the whole of God's community.
For the old testament Moses was well known and a leader of God's nation, same goes with Joshua, David, Solomon, sons of Asaph, the prophets. As for the new testament same thing people who walked with christ during his earthly ministry or were a knowledge by those who walked with Jesus on earth.
No, pastor, bishop, general overseer etc has such authority that those who wrote the scripture had.

People lie all the time in the name of God and hence any revelation must be brought under scriptural examination.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does It Mean To Walk In The Spirit? by Steep(op): 9:19pm On Apr 14, 2024

Steep:
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

The scriptures reveals that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit.

However, what does it mean to walk in the Spirit?

But first of all, scriptures reveals as many that are baptize into christ have put on christ.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

This is not just about water baptism but what water baptism stand for. When we get baptized into christ we are declaring our faith in him, that we are now united with him. Water baptism is a symbolic declaration of faith in christ. There is verbal declaration of faith in christ and symbolic declaration of faith.
Being in the Spirit
When we believe on the Lord Jesus, our sins were forgiven us, we were declared righteous, the holy ghost took residence in us, we were regenerated in Spirit, we became new creation and we became sons of God, at our new state we are in the Spirit.

walking in the Spirit
In other for us not to fulfill the desires of the flesh we need to walk in the Spirit.

What then is walking in the Spirit?
It simply mean to live in accordance with our new state. Walking in the Spirit requires knowledge of our new Spiritual state /position.

When you buy a brand new car, the first thing you do is to read the manual to know about the car. As we learn about the Lord Jesus, we Begin to see our image in him that is because our identity (who we are) is in christ. So our focus should be on Jesus. The scripture reveals our new state and position in christ.

Under the law people struggle to keep the law in other to become righteous but in christ we already become righteous but however we need to live as people who are already righteous, holy, blames because christ has made us so in him. in other words we are not struggling to be righteous halleluyah, rather we are righteous but living out our righteousnesses and holiness in christ, when we are commanded to holy in christ it means to live as holy people because we are actually a holy nation in the Lord Jesus christ.

When we live according to what christ as made us to be in him instead by the dictate of our flesh or the world we walk in the Spirit and hence overcomes in christ Jesus. Shallom

Christianity Etc › What Does It Mean To Walk In The Spirit? by Steep(op): 7:43pm On Apr 14, 2024

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

The scriptures reveals that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us who walk after the Spirit.

However, what does it mean to walk in the Spirit?

But first of all, scriptures reveals as many that are baptize into christ have put on christ.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

This is not just about water baptism but what water baptism stand for. When we get baptized into christ we are declaring our faith in him, that we are now united with him. Water baptism is a symbolic declaration of faith in christ. There is verbal declaration of faith in christ and symbolic declaration of faith.
Being in the Spirit
When we believe on the Lord Jesus, our sins were forgiven us, we were declared righteous, the holy ghost took residence in us, we were regenerated in Spirit, we became new creation and we became sons of God, at our new state we are in the Spirit.

walking in the Spirit
In other for us not to fulfill the desires of the flesh we need to walk in the Spirit.

What then is walking in the Spirit?
It simply mean to live in accordance with our new state. Walking in the Spirit requires knowledge of our new Spiritual state /position.

When you buy a brand new car, the first thing you do is to read the manual to know about the car. As we learn about the Lord Jesus, we Begin to see our image in him that is because our identity (who we are) is in christ. So our focus should be on Jesus. The scripture reveals our new state and position in christ.

Under the law people struggle to keep the law in other to become righteous but in christ we already become righteous but however we need to live as people who are already righteous, holy, blames because christ has made us so in him. in other words we are not struggling to be righteous halleluyah, rather we are righteous but living out our righteousnesses and holiness in christ, when we are commanded to holy in christ it means to live as holy people because we are actually a holy nation in the Lord Jesus christ.

When we live according to what christ as made us to be in him instead by the dictate of our flesh or the world we walk in the Spirit and hence overcomes in christ Jesus. Shallom

Christianity Etc › Re: Biblically Ismael is A Legal Son Of Abraham from his wife Hagar. by Steep(m): 9:49pm On Apr 12, 2024

Christianity Etc › Re: Challenge to Christians: Is there any unambiguous scriptural Proof for trinity? by Steep(m): 9:47pm On Apr 12, 2024

AbuTwins:
Fxmasterz

1. If trinity was proven according to the Bible why the need for credal debates and endorsements?

2. Since you claim trinity exists somewhere in the Bible can you please show us trinity without eisegesis nor exegesis! I don't need any of you subjective premises here. Objectivity is what is need! And do quote biblical verses acceptable in all bible versions not the ones present in KJV and not in RSV or NIV.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Notice the use of 'we' 'us'.

Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Note, the person speaking identifies himself as yahweh (1 person) he said the Lord God ( another person) and his Spirit ( another person has sent him. Making them three distinct persons.
The Trinity is not a new testament teaching God has already revealed it in the old testament though the Jews might not understand it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Jesus Commend Shrewdness And Unrighteous Wealth by Steep(m): 12:55pm On Apr 11, 2024

Jesus is not condoning unrighteousness, there is a parable that came before it. And another thing, you used an incorrect translation. Here is the kjv 1611 version.
Luke 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
Mammon of unrighteousness refers to the money, satus and influence. What Jesus is saying is that we should use these for kingdom investment so that when these earthly things fail we would have friends in eternity.

This is an invaluable lesson for all Christian not to put trust an earthly accomplishment but instead use it for kingdom accomplishment because earthly accomplishment would fade away but kingdom accomplishment is for eternity.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Hermetica: The Lost Wisdom Of The Pharaohs by Steep(m): 12:24pm On Apr 11, 2024

all the gods of the nations are idols (empty and vain).

Psalms 96:5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.

See the dead philosophy, it is always the same stupidity. The summary of the garbage is that human being are divine the so called messenger is only a guide to self discovery. Its all about self discovery garbage.

Satan allways want to tell people what they like not the truth, seeking truth from demons or is like searching for light in darkness all such a fool get is more darkness.

1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Inspite of the increase of knowledge things are going from bad to worse, there is no other way apart from Jesus christ.

Repent and believe in Jesus christ, God is going to destroy this world with all her glory and splendor.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Story In The Bible Seem Complicated To You? by Steep(m): 3:56pm On Apr 10, 2024

brain54:
What about Jonah nko...

Wey fish swallow for 3 whole days?

Also the tree of life... God for no just use am tempt Adam and eve na. After all he is all seeing and know the end from beginning so He already know they will fall.

King Solomon wey marry 1000 wives apart from girlfriends na how he take dey run am?

Many of those Bible story no clear Sha!

The fish that swallowed Jonah was prepared by God for that purpose or you want to tell me you know all the fish that has ever existed?
First and foremost the tree of life was not put there as a test but to sustain man, I guess you are talking about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Adam and evil had to show their loyalty to good, hence God gave them some restriction.
No Christian would tell you Abraham, Solomon David where perfect, nobody is truly righteous by their works hence scripture says all have sinned and come short of God's glory.
In the time of the old testament christ has not being revealed,

Christianity Etc › Re: What Story In The Bible Seem Complicated To You? by Steep(m): 3:41pm On Apr 10, 2024

chatinent:
Is there a story you feel seem complicated? Kindly share!

I think mine would be Job. He did nothing and God was just like to Satan: "See my servant Job. There is no one on earth as faithful and good as he is..." and it led to Job's misery in the end by Satan only to rekindle it later.

Was that really necessary!

what you don't understand is that what happened to Job was a lesson, that man is not to rely on their righteousness or that doing righteousness does not mean life would not happen, it also teaches that trials are to try ones faith and after this there is victory for the righteous at the end as was job.

secondly it is a pointer to the suffering of christ who even though he was righteous yet suffered for the sin of the world.

Second, what was really the crime of the firstborn children of the Egyptians that was killed as part of the plagues?

It was a justice, you reap whatever you sow, the Egyptians killed the children of Israelites because of jealousy and now they lost theirs.

And I think it's the Pharaoh's story too. God sent Moses to tell Pharoah to let his people go. Pharoah refused. At a point under duress, he let the people go. And guess what? God still stiffens his heart that he pursued them?

God hardens pharaohs heart as a judgment so that pharaoh would fully bear the consequences of his sin. He hardened his heart against the word then God grant him his wish, his heart became hardened, when one rejects the God's goodness then God gives that person what he or she wants wrath.

In all honesty and with the suffering I don personally face for Nigeria, if the devil was erased from Eden from the beginning, life could have been easier. The Jesus story of dying for our sins is long procedures. Many years have passed to prove a point abeg

erasing Satan would not solve the problem of sin, Satan has already planted the sin of rebellion eliminating him would not remove the seed, God had equipped Adam and eve to defeat Satan, so it is their responsibility to obey God.

Jesus death shows that God's justice must be fulfill, God does not cut corners, all of God's righteous demand must be met, it also shows how much God hate sin.

And I can never believe a white man died for the sins of a black man.

O po ju o.

What is happening naw!

cc: Seun, Mynd44, Nlfpmod

But the technology you use today are mostly from the whites, even the language you used is from the whites, you don't have problems with these?

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