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You couldn't answer the questions. That is alright.

misreal:
Mtcheew
Omo you are so blind to simple truths eh.
All the rubbish you just spewed now are your proofs that israel doesn’t own that land.
Brother bringscientific proofs not sentimental nonsense.
Until you can prove to me scientifically that the land does not belong to the isrealis don’t quote me again.
From the basis of your arguement,it means we can only lay claim to the land we live in and not the land our ancestors lived in.then it means israel currently own all the lands including Gaza because they currently live in it.
See how twisted you sound ba.
Bring proves that the land of israel is not the ancestral home of Israeli or don’t quote me again.

Imagine this scenario

I am black and a Jew
I settle in the UK
I marry a White man
We have kids.
They intermarry
They are white now
They identify as Yoruba
6 generations later, some of us are still in the UK, some are in Germany, some are in Ireland

Over 2000 years later


Now where I came from: they have gone through change of religions back and forth for the 2000 years. The Yoruba people have been Jews, they have been Christians and they have been Christians again, then Muslims.

Now the majority are Muslims. Some have remained Christians and some have remained Jews.


Now my descendants lay a claim a over that land because they descended from me and they believe their claim is legitimate.

Who else in the world history has done this and gotten away with it? Israel and because Israel is white.

American is backing Israel is yet to give back Native American Lands. Maybe small steps, lets try Hawaii. They could give Hawaii back its land its Independence.

Would you give back your family and community land if others claim it was theirs 600 years ago?

misreal:
Before the Jews migrated to Europe where was their home?
Did every Jew migrated from their homeland to Europe?
Answer these two questions and let’s see if you know anything about Jerusalem

Lmao. I can see you are following me.

That attention you seek to placate your miserable existence.You will not get it from me.


Go ahead and quote 100 times everyday for the next 50 years. YOU WILL NOT GET IT. Ciao!

thunderfireyour:
ode history start today trailer jam you jam your papa jam your mama jam your born and unborn children

Before I answer your questions, you have to answer mine?

1. It was the home of Jews. Jew as in the faith. Some of them migrated over 2000 years ago. Some didn't.

2. Not all Jews migrated from their land. We call them Palestinians Jews. There are other ones spread across the Arab world before Mossad used fear to eject them from their homes.

2. Religion is like every other religions, there are converts eveywhere. People change religions all the time.





Now answer my questions

1. I am Muslim. Am I entitled stop Saudi Arabia citizenship because of faith?

2. My greatgreatgrandparents were from Ogbomosho. Can I return to Ogbomosho and claim the land?

3. Are you as a Christian, entitled to Jerusalem or Jerusalem citizenship if that were possible because you believed in Jesus Christ?

4. Should white people on the basis of their faith claim a land in the middle East?

5. Give me 5 Zionist members that can point to a landmark in Palestine/Israel and tell you where their ancestors graves and homes were?

6. Do Jewish converts have a right to Palestinian land on the basis of their faith?

7. How long was this?

8. Can descendants of Yoruba or of Igbos slaves AND those who converted to paganism in South America lay a claim over Igbo or Yoruba lands because we used to pagans?

misreal:
Before the Jews migrated to Europe where was their home?
Did every Jew migrated from their homeland to Europe?
Answer these two questions and let’s see if you know anything about Jerusalem

When did history start?

misreal:
And history began 70yrs ago ba?
Make UNA dey deceive UNA self..

I forgot to mention this.

You see Abraham was Arab (He is Iraqi). He is the grandfather of Israel where the Jewish faith stemmed from.

Are you connecting the dots already? If you draw a straight line from Israel to the present day, guess where you will find the descendants that would be genetically closer to Israel.

Certainly not from the 100% Europeans claiming their ancestors lived in Palestine 200 years ago
OR from Black Jews that were imported from Ethiopia

You are looking at Palestinian Christians and Jews darling, so bomb away.

Jesus is coming!

misreal:
and may you experience what hamas did to Israeli on the 7th of October.
No one has the monopoly of terrorizing people.
When israel is done with Gaza,you go cry naked

Since history didn't start on Oct 7th, you have to restate that curse for it to be hurtful.

misreal:
and may you experience what hamas did to Israeli on the 7th of October.
No one has the monopoly of terrorizing people.
When israel is done with Gaza,you go cry naked

I am seeing that you are a Christian and you have no idea what Christian Europe played in part.

They HATED Jews. They WANTED them out of their lands. America saved Jews and Zionists. I don't know if your ignorant ass knows the history of black people in the US. Jews had a similar history in Europe, maybe not as gruesome, gruesome nonetheless. Their issue was their RELIGION, not skin colour.

Shakespeare's book, merchant of Venice was written out antisemitism. Out of many reasons they hated Jews, which included crucifixion of Jesus. Interest on loans was forbidden for Christians back in those days, just as it is for Muslims. Jews engaged in Riba(Interest) which made them wealthy and gave them a stereotype of being greedy and they HATED and PERSECUTED them for demanding their money back.


So this sudden support for Zionism is borne to of hatred for Muslims. Not like you give a Bleep about Jews.

misreal:
I don’t have a brain sir.
You wey get brain dey use am support terrorist.
I’d rather be brainless than have your kind of brain.
Peace

Going forward - Islam 101

Killing all Palestinians or all Muslims is not the end

“Verily we belong to Allah, and truly to Him shall we return”

"Every soul shall taste death....."

They have been killing them for over 70 years. There is nothing Zionists are doing now that is any different. You are just ignorant and late to the party.


We are not going to see Hamas as the devil. Yes, they are holding people hostage. Keep that hate burning!

misreal:
you want me to reason with you after implying that I am brainless.
Listen to me,no matter what you say,hamas is going down.
Israel will bomb the living day light out of Gaza.
If you like,be supporting people who are holding innocent people hostage and calling themselves freedom fighters.
See the stupid video you are using as a proof that israel is lying sef,after watching the video,I can now confirm thAt you are brainless.
I’d rather not have a brain than have your kind of brain.

The joke is on you

Lol. Either she couldn't sleep or she was too energised to sleep or be still..

Sometimes, I find I can make moin moin at 2am in the morning

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Your sister should not have addressed those kids without the presence of a teacher or their parents.

She should have taken her kids out when the teachers began to employ strategies to punish them. The amount of effort for an adult to sit down and think of ways to hurt a child in that manner is evil.

Your sister should be reporting that school to the relevant state miniatry of education.

Abraham was Arab. His descendants are Arabs. Stamping out Palestinians means Pleatinaian Christians means they will be stamping out people who share the most DNA with Jesus.

Heffalump:
This is the perfect way to stampout terrorism. Arab world can go to hell

I didn't know you are in Canada

onegig:
Wait till Black Friday. Best time to get deals on Mobile data plans. Might even get a free phone inclusive.

This man's grandfather is Russian. His father is also Russian and American.

Exactly how Israel and Israel supporters are so full of it.

Realguyman1:
You are talking trash

There was no where in the world without milantancy. They are usually in response to something. More often than not, they are in the right, even Feminist movement bombed a few.

Now we are talking about the worst of it. It is easy to say what about Hamas from the comfort of our homes.

If you have taken time to read what has been going on for more than 75 years on Palestine. If someone stole your home, wiped out your family and tortured you when you were 13.

Who will you become?

patrickcollins:
Saying no to genocide, what happens to hostages Hamas kidnapped from Israel to Gaza, is it not genocide. Those Hamas killed in Israel is it not equally genocide

We didn't hear your voice when Israel killed Palestinians. There is an history before October 7th of how Israel have been killing Palestinians. How Israeli soldiers-military service is mandatory in Israel. Where they train and prepare their youths on how to wipe out Palestinians..

West Bank doesn't have Hamas. They are still getting slaughtered. Or does that not matter to you.

To your last question. Each and every one in Israel can get another nationality within a twinkle of an eye. Their grandfathers and grandmothers have Hungarian, American, Polish nationalities. Let them go there. They are NOT stateless. We are not accepting I am going to steal your land, wipe half of your population out, render you useless and turn around and offer you half of your land.

This was the same 'shitty' reasons they let the Whites keep the stolen South African lands. It is always about letting the Whites breathe.

I am leaving you with these.

socialmediaman:
Because on October 7, 2023, Hamas fired over 2,000 rockets into Israel, and murdered over 1,000 Israelis.



Are these a justification for what happened on October 7, 2023 to Israeli civilians? Many of the Israelis who were murdered were not even born when Nakba happened in 1948. Just like Palestinians, Israeli residents say they fear for their lives and safety, do you care about that at all? Or you want the whole world to ignore these and just go with your point of view?



What would you advise a person in this situation to do? Take up arms and murder citizens of a country who can wipe them out?

A two-state solution was proposed by the UN in 1947 which Arab countries rejected. The goal was to wipe out Israel from the middle east. Is that what will make you happy?

I am 99% certain that when Peter Obi told the Labour party executives that he wants to run for Presidency seat under their umbrella, they made a call to Tinubu first.

Yes it did.

If it didn't,

Go back 5000 years ago and claim your 'ancestral' land. Maybe we should all.

Realguyman1:
Did history start in 1948?

Why do you people always bring up Hamas if you are not taking sides.

What about West Bank?
Was Hamas around during Nakba?
What about harvesting Palestinians organs to be sold?
What about the arrest and torture and rape Palestinians go through?

Most importantly, What would you do if you were a Palestinian and most of your family members are dead and someone is trying to take your home away?

It is very disingenuous to bring up Hamas. I find people like you unbelievable.

socialmediaman:
I agree with you on minimizing civilian impact. My next question is, how do you handle a situation where Hamas uses civilians as human shields as detailed by this NATO report: https://www.nairaland.com/7880670/nato-strategic-communications-hamas-use

Hamas goes to civilian populated areas including hospitals, children’s playgrounds etc and fires rockets to Israel. What should Israel do in your opinion?

Israel warned residents recently to evacuate an area it was planning to attack, but Hamas told residents not to evacuate, what do you think Israel should do?

Did history start on Oct 7th?

Realguyman1:
Who started it? Didn't Hamas know very well that the Israeli military was more powerful than theirs before attacking the Isreali innocent citizens? Hamas brought this upons her people, and they should be the ones to be blamed not the Israeli.

Nor be say na mouth, if it was Hamas who had the military strength and western support the sreali has, no single Israel citizen for dey alive by now.

Jews aren't Christians. They would never be Christians.

How has God dealt with Europe? Despite Christian Europe standing against Jews for thousands of years. They discriminated, killed and perscuted them. Pogroms upon pogroms. It was not until they relocated them to Palestine before they started loving them. So tell us how God has cursed Europe?

Righteousness2:
Very foolish move from SA leadership.

Make no Mistake!!
GOD ALMIGHTY foreign policy is pretty simple!

You Bless ISRAEL, You are Blessed!
You Curse ISRAEL, you are Cursed!

Genesis 12:1-3
Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Any wise Nation or person that has understanding of the times and Seasons will stand with Unshakeable with ISRAEL.

GOD will Deal ruthlessly with all nations that stand against the Apple of HIS eyes.
Nations and people should go read the book of Joel and Zechariah in the Holy Bible so they don't incure and import God's Wrath on their nations, citizens and themselves.

Part of the numerous things Israel did and is still doing: Mind you, it doesn't matter if the Palestinian is a Christian or a Muslim.

-bob hospitals and refugee camps - this one is small
-bake babies
-kill pregnant women and cut out their foetus
-rape women
-torture Palestinians
-arrest them till forever
-Wipe out all family members. There are families that have been wiped out. We aren't talking about 20 family members. think 60, 70 family members.

Some of these victims end up joining Hamas. Should Hamas kill civilians? No. However, Hamas is not the story. West Bank doesn't have Hamas and they suffer the same fate as Gaza. When people refer to Oct 7th, I wonder if they were born on Oct 6th. Or when they claim it is complicated; I need no further proof of their daftness.

If you can understand Apartheid South Africa. Now imagine that happening on a much larger scale for a country with little support. You have white people claiming a land because of religion. These white people don't care about Christianity. Everyone keeps mentioning the Bible to support Zionism when there are Orthodox Jews and many other Jews that do not believe in Zionism.

Nche95:
I'm essence you are justifying October 7. And they should do worse if next time they have the chance.. people dey sha

Did History start on Oct 7? It is a simple question.

Nche95:
I'm essence you are justifying October 7. And they should do worse if next time they have the chance.. people dey sha

We don't kill people and take their lands. I don't support people who do. You do. You should be comfortable with the consequences of your support.

YoungBlackRico:
Hope you wake up and wish for what happened on the 7th on your household too

This is easy. You know the land your ancestors came from. If you don't know, get down to research. Go back 5000 years and claim the land. It doesn't matter if it is in South Africa, The Philippines. Go back and claim that land now!

Can you see how foolishyou sound now?

A lot of people displaced the Jews, Romans, the crusaders etc. The Israelis we have now have a longer history than even the African Americans. I doubt you are willing to share your family land if a couple of AA claim your ancestors land as theirs.

No Israeli can point out to a specific place in Israel or Palestine and say out loud that it used to be where their great grandfather used play, swim and what have you. Israelis are white people from Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany, Britain, America and other European countries.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
The claims by Palestine Hamas that the land Israel is staying now doesn't belong to them is blatant lies. That's just the main cause of their problem, Israel has been existing on that land right from the beginning of time. But because war displaced and dispersed Israel around the world, by the time they came back in 1948, Mohammedians Palestine hamas have taken over their land and didn't want Israel to come near again,
Did Israel just wake up and begin to attack Palestine,
Palestine went to Israel to attack them and killed civilian including children,
So you want them to fold their hands and watch.
What Israel is doing now is to rid Gaza of Hamas terrorists and they need to enter Gaza to achieve that in order to secure their people and border.
Inorder to reduce civilian casualty since Hamas like to use civilian for shield, Israel told people of Palestine to move to South to know and battle the real terrorists but Hamas told Gaza people not to move so that they can use them as human shields.
So anyone who refuses to hide and move away from the area of attack or area designated for battle is a terrorist and Muslim terrorists are always ready to die even when they are trying to kill others.

Darling, I do! Unlike you, I am capable of caring about two things at the same time.

Will you like to know the difference? Western world have always pretended to care about human rights, democracy and all other jargons. Their pretence haven't been great but at least they used to pretend. Yet we have these same countries saying it is okay to commit genocide.

teebaxy:
Have you bothered to pray about the issue in Borno and most states in northern part of Nigeria Why are you so sympathetic about a country that doesn’t give a shit about you be your worries . Nigeria will not develop in this manner!

Oh, I do. What next now?

teebaxy:
Have you bothered to pray about the issue in Borno and most states in northern part of Nigeria Why are you so sympathetic about a country that doesn’t give a shit about you be your worries . Nigeria will not develop in this manner!

I guess you have chosen to be willfully stupid..

justli:
when leaders are elected to power, the civilians are at the mercy of decisions the government decides to make. When hamas attacked isreal , killing over 1400 civillians for no immediate reason, it was a call for war, and the masses in Palestine celebrated that attacked.

I am yet to see a gathering of the good people of palesine calling for the arrest of the leaders of Hamas, or even a single statement condemning the actions of their government. It is called war for a reason. civilians will get caught in the crossfires, Israel is doing doing its best to warn civilians, but Hamas is not letting them leave.

Israel has had enough and they want to end the menace called hamas once and for all