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Bring her to me...

let me teach her a 'new level of grace'

#COZA Gangnam style#

pls do u have pictures? i nid one urgently

suredammy: I will reply to the issues you have raised.

First, I am not condemning Christianity becos of One Mans indiscretionS. What I am condemning is the fact that christainity is replete with so many Men of God who claims to be spiritual and have understanding of Gods way, committing atrocious sins and still having the audacity to preach, lead and guide people. Which kind of guidance can these Men provide. Are the hearts of these men not empty? Are they not just professing what does not exist and deceiving their followers that they possess higher spiritual understanding.? A spiritual understanding the followers can never attain becos it is not in existence.
Yes, Islam allow men to marry more than one wife because Islam is a complete religion that understands the nature of human. Islam understands that most men will not be satisfied with only one woman. Most men have high sex drive and more sexual needs during the course of their lifetime compared to women. This any red-blooded truthful man will attest to. So, instead of placing men in bondage and compelling Men to fool around, commit the grave sin of adultery as evident by Pastor Biodun and other numerous examples, Islam provides a legal, sensible avenue for Men to channel their sexual energy. Only a sinful and deranged person will believe this is not better than keeping aristos, concubine, mistresses, prostitutes, harraSsing church members, your students and the list goes on. What saddens me is that most Men are hypocrites, you know what I mean.
By the way, where is it written in the Bible or was is it ever said by Jesus(Peace of Allah(God) be upon him) that a man cannot marry more than one wife? Did Abraham, who was described in the bible as the "FATHER OF FAITH", not marry more than one wife. And before you say that HAGAR was not Abrahams wife are you insinuating that the father of faith committed adultery? What about Prophets such as Solomon, David and so on. Was monogamy not infused into Christianity by the Roman empire which used to be monogamous but where Men are allowed to have numerous concubines and have easy access to prostitutes.? Please be informed and have adequate knowledge of your religion. There is not excuse for ignorance in this modern age.
I will not want this post to be too long therefore I will address the other issues you raised in my subsequent posts. I think anybody who is sincere will say amen to this prayer: MAY GOD GUIDE US ARIGHT.

Guy,

With due respect, you should know better than arguing the Bible with Christians.

You are ignorant of the issues you discussing and i dont see the wisdom in joining issues with you.

Perhaps you may want to aver your mind to the fact Christianity came before Islam and any modification ( which you think makles the religion 'better' or 'complete') may have been created by man to suit their convenient purpose.

If you had any concern for your afterlife destiny. i wud advise you to go and read the Bible d even the Koran's teachings on Isa....not with a fixed mind but a mind will to know...

Jesus is the only way. Dont say you were not told.

I need a beautiful bootyliscious babe to come sit on my laps...
So i can teach her a new "Level of grace' #COZA Gangnam style#

suredammy: Mind you this is not an argument, just civilized dialogue. Yeah, the religion am talking about is Islam and implore you and everyone to find out about the true Islam. I am appalled how little non-muslims know about Islam. I just want us all to open our minds, learn about what Islam entails and Then we can all decide and make an educated choice. May God guide all aright.

Since u ve said it...let me now tackle you.

we blame the coza pastor for having an affair with someone oda dan his ONE wife and here u sit on telling me that islam is better. is it becos islam allows ur imams to marry as many wives as they wish?

The most violent religion and countries are islamic countries.

Yet you condemn xtianity becos of one pastor that went astray?

What about pastors that changed the world like Martin luther?

Bros. Its actually even disrespectful of you to come on this thread and assault xtianity. i dont imagine i would do that on a muslim thread.

Even the Koran says obey Isa(Jesus).

If you did obey him like the koran said, you might actually be saved.


I advise you to go read more bout Jesus. follow his teachings. thats where your salvation lies.

suredammy: The important question is that is it the Spiritual leaders and Men of God who are to be looked up to for guidance that are killing people in the religion you are talking about or some misguided individuals who have been condemned and disowned by the leader and real adherents of the religion? As it is the case with christainity. The whole decay in christendom is in the upper echelons, even involving catholic cardinals . I ask again where is the spirituality and fear of God. This is an invitation to think and ponder.

like i said earlier...if u must argue, come out plain.

what religion are you canvassing? come out so we can analyse the issue.

suredammy: I have read a lot of comments on this issue and I am always amazed by the response from most Nigerian Christians. Can to all see that this goes beyond randy pastors. I think it is a valid question to ask if Christianity is the religion to attain salvation. And before you scream YES IT IS, please just take a moment to reflect. Where is the Ideal Christianity, When Celebrity Pastors just milk and take advantage of church members, all preaching is jeered toward prosperity gospel read MONEY. Where is the fear of God in all these pastors who profess to have higher insight and spiritual levels compared to their congregations? What is that spiritual level? Who and where are those possess it? Is it not all a mirage and farce? I think it is high time we all pondered and think deeply about the credibility of Christianity and not follow dogmatically. Mind you, scandals involving the church and so called MEN OF GOD are not limited to Nigeria (CATHOLIC CHURCH WORLDWIDE READ ANYONE). I doubt it if most Nigerians have even bothered to read about the history of Christianity.
Where is the fear of God, spirituality, Hoping for God reward in heaven, worshiping God alone, Love of God, following his injunction and laws, making sacrifices for their God and not only hoping for material wealth in this world. Christians only choose to follow the Gods laws that suit there whims and self-desires. Where are the Pastors and Christians who abstain from and condemn fornication, embezzlements, bribery, and corruption e.t.c.
God’s true religion is perfect and He will only use righteous men and women to propagate his religion, not these criminals disguise as PASTORS. The truth is clear and falsehood is clear. Whoever chooses to follow the path of falsehood will only have him or herself of blame when he meets his CREATOR. I know most people will abuse me instead of thinking deeply about what I have written, but that doesn’t change or blot the facts and the MOST IMPORTANT OF QUESTIONS; IS CHRISTAINITY THE TRUE RELIGION IN SIGHT OF GOD.

And ur point is? Y don't u tell us d religion u re advertising rather than rigmaroling. Am sure its not one religion dat some pple have been using to kill millions u re refering to sha? Else, u re deluded.

[quote author=suredammy]I have read a lot of comments on this issue and I am always amazed by the response from most Nigerian Christians. Can to all see that this goes beyond randy pastors. I think it is a valid question to ask if Christianity is the religion to attain salvation. And before you scream YES IT IS, please just take a moment to reflect. Where is the Ideal Christianity, When Celebrity Pastors just milk and take advantage of church members, all preaching is jeered toward prosperity gospel read MONEY. Where is the fear of God in all these pastors who profess to have higher insight and spiritual levels compared to their congregations? What is that spiritual level? Who and where are those possess it? Is it not all a mirage and farce? I think it is high time we all pondered and think deeply about the credibility of Christianity and not follow dogmatically. Mind you, scandals involving the church and so called MEN OF GOD are not limited to Nigeria (CATHOLIC CHURCH WORLDWIDE READ ANYONE). I doubt it if most Nigerians have even bothered to read about the history of Christianity.
Where is the fear of God, spirituality, Hoping for God reward in heaven, worshiping God alone, Love of God, following his injunction and laws, making sacrifices for their God and not only hoping for material wealth in this world. Christians only choose to follow the Gods laws that suit there whims and self-desires. Where are the Pastors and Christians who abstain from and condemn fornication, embezzlements, bribery, and corruption e.t.c.
God’s true religion is perfect and He will only use righteous men and women to propagate his religion, not these criminals disguise as PASTORS. The truth is clear and falsehood is clear. Whoever chooses to follow the path of falsehood will only have him or herself of blame when he meets his CREATOR. I know most people will abuse me instead of thinking deeply about what I have written, but that doesn’t change or blot the facts and the MOST IMPORTANT OF QUESTIONS; IS CHRISTAINITY THE TRUE RELIGION IN SIGH

coogar: he doesn't need to stoop low to address a serial pröstitute.

Jesus Christ 'stooped low' to adress the Samaritan woman (who was worse than a prostitute).(John 4:17& 18)

So if you consider yourself or any pastor too 'big' to address any of God's Creation, then its not Jesus you worship.

I have refused to commen on this scandal till now.


Probably due to the response of the church.

I have noticed a trend about nigerians,both secular and men of God. They never admit to wrongdoing.

Compare that with americans- Rev. Jesse Jackson who was recently convicted of misuse of campaign funds.He owned up and apologized to Americans. Same thing for Marian Jones.


When you are accused of wrong and you are probably guilty, Nigerians never own up. they ll probly deny or 'ignore' like in this case and Sanusi lamido's case.

Unfortunately for the man of God, repentance and admission is key. It doesnt show weakness but a contrite heart. and that would show he respects the annointing and the God he worships. this is cos its not about him, but about God. Briefly look at Kirk Franking's admission during an interview of his addiction to Porn below;



KIRK FRANKLIN: It's weird because you're talking about the dude who was the minister of music at a church when I was 11. I have to check myself because there's an anger that rises up in me. I get evangelically ticked off by the fact that I wished somebody would have taught me a long time ago about the repercussions of sex and flesh and lust and vanity and pride and ego. I wished somebody would have been holding my little behind accountable years ago. But let me tell you what happens to the gifted. The gifted in the church slip right through.

SCOTT ROSS: Why?

KIRK FRANKLIN: Because the gifted are able to naturally and emotionally control the atmosphere of the service.

SCOTT ROSS: So we relate to you based on the gift rather than the man?

KIRK FRANKLIN: There you go, brother. No one asks the minister of music whether he's killing when everyone is crying and speaking in tongues. Nobody asks him, 'Are you going home tonight? How's your marriage? What's going on with you and your wife?' Nobody's holding the gifted accountable in the Body.


Being diplomatic isnt an answer to someone questioning your testimony. If you fell, admit it. thats wen you can move on.

It just like annanias and saphira after doing wat they did wrong to say 'we will reply in due time'

God's name is in question. Beyond your ego. Beyond you.

And to the church that kept 'clapping' for him...


A shame. We now have church members flocking after some 'word' when they can read the scriptures themselves. so what this means is that even if a pastor murders someone, the church will support him regardless.

I dont blame anyone supporting their pastor but am sure there is sometin wrong with supportin the pastor and spitting on the lessons the bible teaches. Selah

trillville: My guy, do we have better electricity?

Do we have tap water across the country?

Are we more secure?

Has the percentage of poor Nigerians reduced?

Has our infant mortality rate gotten better?

Have we become more industrialized?

Why do we like lying to ourselves !!!

We like lying to ourselves because of the gains of psycophacy and boot licking

...the guy is soo on point!

where exactly is it and wat is the full package?

@ Op

i am a lawyer and this problem is not peculiar to your school.

i finished from a fed uni and we even had the problem as far back as 8 yrs ago when i was about to enter the law school.

The problem is caused simply by the fact that the current capacity of Nigerian lawschool cannot cater for all the graduates being churned out by Nigerian Universities.

So you dont waste your time however, i would advise you to apply to do your youth service in the meantime and go to the law school later. Thats what a lot of my friends did back then. Alternatively, you can try see if you can do a foreign masters while you await law school.


And you can get a job as equally as anyone with a degree. it just doesnt have to be a 'law practice' kind of job.

abi o...can we see the pics?

i dont believe this is real.

Imagine a yoruba singer singing yoruba and wonderin y americans are not buying his album.

Imagine another person saying the americans are not buying becos they are ntellectually wack.

Mode...if you cant produce a song to communicate with your peeps..then go back to music school...

thats high. where is it? and isnt it negotiable? i am interested in only a year but cant do 700 @ all

Afam4eva: Patience Jonathan remains the most elegant and fashion conscious first lady in the history of Nigeria and Africa. She's always on point.

This guy is high on cheap drugs!

See the first picture...You see how old the man is? Damn!

The second picture...You go fear Naija police. See how they balanced to see the match? Chai!

Nwa Teacher: Good news indeed. This is a smooth chance for Gej's victory come 2015. Let them keep on dividing and dispersing but for me and my family, Fresh air till 2019. Now i know that Gej has no opponent

GEJ's victory with whose votes? APC's?

and how true is it that the house warming is this weekend?

this ose...hmmm...what about the two bedrooms at the back?

Delafruita: keep talking out of ignorance.i had hepatitis B aout 5years ago and i was lucky it was diagnosed within a month.my doctor made me realise people die within 3months if the virus isnt detected.even the sympthoms of hepB are crazy.extreme jaundice,bitter tongue,serious fatigue,insomnia etc.a friend of mine died of the disease because he thought it was typhoid so my friend,dont just comment on things from a layman's point of view.hepatitis kills faster than AIDs and 100 times more infectious because it has various modes of transmission and can reside otside of the hosts body for a longer period that HIV.

the liver very important.if stops working for a few seconds,the body cannot be detoxified meaning-death.so try to learn without disparaging the good doctors who are trying to create the awareness.and try to get the hepB vaccine if you havent

Bro...I understand your frustration but its good you get the facts straight.

HBV doesnt kill that fast.

Some variants of HBV destroys the liver systematically but not as fast as AIDS. It will only be faster if the immune system is also compromised...i.e If the person has Aids for e.g.

In a lot of people, you wont even know you have it cos you wont even see symptoms.

In recent years, HBV has increased in Nigeria and Africa hence anyone within active sexual age is advised to do a check.

Like i explained earlier, if you have acute hep b, it is likely your liver will fight it and remove it naturally. this can happen within weeks of contacting it to within 6 months. if its still within your system within 6 months, is likely its chronic hep b.

There are new lab tests that can tell you which of it you have if you have it. once you have it, your SGPT will likely go beyond 40%. (normal SGPT is 0-40%). This indicates damage to the liver.

The good news is that circa 80 per cent of adults who contact it in their adult years will not proceed to have chronic HBV. this is cos of the rather strong immune system for adults.

But where the HBV is contacted as a child (likely throiugh birth), the possibility it would be chronic is high.


As an adult, If you are not sure which of the hep b you have, do a test. Then keep taking livolin forte for a month( one tablet daily).Also do lots of exercises and stop taking alcohol if u usually do.Then do another test after 6 months. The result will let you know if its chronic or not. if it is, do see a doctor.


N:B: on the antibody explanation, what usually happens is that if your body recovers from HBV infection, the blood would have developed antibodies which will resist the virus in future. That is also what a vaccine would do- develop the antibodies to resist the HBV Virus.

I hope this was helpful?

Messi wins it for the 5th time...

Techmogul: First of all I would like to tender a disclaimer. The opinions expressed here on this forum by a few people on this thread claiming to be of yourba origin is not a general one. I am deeply ashamed and disassociate myself from such hateful, spiteful and malicious comments against the ibo's. We Lagosians are a very hospitable people. We accommodate people of different tribes and ethnic backgrounds, irrespective of state of origin or nationality. Its just so sad to hear that an insignificant few can tarnish our image by spewing all this senseless rubbish on NL. If you look around during the festive periods, Lagosians extend a hand of fellowship to their neighbors, be it sallah festivals or during christmas. Some of my best friends are not even Lagosians. So i find it very upsetting the number of hate messages spread by 'false' Nigerians on this thread. I want to apologize on behalf of all Yorubas for the shameful and disgusting treatment meted out to those involved in the deportation incidence and also to call for understanding and peace not just from our ibo brothers but from all Nigerians at large.....

My God....I wish I can meet you. Your comment is d best I ve ever read on NL. Intelligent and on point!

Fashola has derailed. Tinubu wants his daughter as iyaloja of lagos, remi as senator,a pupet as governor and now anoda pupet forcefully imposed on d predominantly igbo traders in ladipo.


Only proves wat I ve always known...there's nothing democratic in Acn's genetics.

I hate pdp too. I just hate it wen like d animal farm...pple who claim to be sometin are d exact opposit of wat they preach.

As a yoruba myself, am ashamed of theis new lagos govt inspired ethocentric agenda and actions.


Shameful!

To be fair to the doctor, he is correct. Its the OP dat got it wrong. Hepatitis 'spreads faster than aids...which Is true. Its spreads 50 times more dan aids...for instance u may have unprotected sex wit someone who has aids and not get d virus but have with someone with HBV and hav it.

But it does not kill as fast as aids.

Besides, some types of hBV are called acute and dose types get flushed out of the liver automatically by d liver.once dat happens, d person's blood develops antibodies and the probability the person gets infected again is almst zero.


Its d type dats called chronic HBV dts most difficult. Means d person is a 'carrier'. It can be treated though.


Wierdly, while d chronic can be treated, d acute cannot be treated. D best tin to do for the acute is to use drugs dt will strengthen d liver like livolin forte...


For yall tho,I advise u go for a test on it and if u negative, ask for the vaccine. The vaccine is usually given 3 times. First on request, den after 6 weeks, then after 14 weeks.

let me know if u have a 2 bedroom flat for 500-600 . i want a yr