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@Olaadegbu: liar like lie. under moses the children of israel were saved from the yoke of pharaoh.

before that, joseph saved his father and his household from starvation.

before that lot saved those who left sodom and gomorrah

before that noah saved the people in the boat

after jesus muhammad saved all believers in The Oneness of God, telling them that no human eyes on earth has ever seen God and making man or angel or jinn or anything God is nothing short of idolatry and all of that leads to fire of hell.


olaadegbu, your comic relief is old shtick; yiddish for joke. it is a terrible plot without a good punchline at best. not worthy of its intention. no one is laughing because you continue to insult and ridicule God Almighty.


you cant get orange juice from freshly harvested papaya. you cant make the powerless jesus (AS) more than what he was; servant of his Lord.

^^^^^^^ And mom said one of her child should remain on line to hell fire.


This reminds me never to marry a disbeliever. they are just a step better than Awo whose ifa has condemned him and made his aso on his back Pon like that of Aparo.

Kudos to virgins. Leave them alone, because today's ugly ducklings are tomorrow's beautiful swans.

And if you are an ex virgin, you can still stop from passing out the goods for those who just want to sample it.

No on will be buy the cow if they sell everybody milking it for free.


Good virtues are always laughed away by people in whose heart is a disease.

The western countries would be thrilled if their daughters can hold out like what we are taking to be unnecessary in our society.

^^^^^^^^ Is the man you are insinuating Muhammad (AS) who Allah say must be obeyed in what is good?

Let me ask you, for the sake of argument, if you find your husband on top of a woman that he is not married to, what will you want to happen to him? This is just you, your raw emotion as his wife?

What if at the same time a boy who is not married is found on top of a unmarried woman as well. Shall the punishment of your husband who has you for a mate, who he has abandoned for the strange woman be the same with the boy who has no ready made legal mate?

Please lets not kid ourselves here. Muhammad (AS) didnt make that law in the Hadith up. he was inspired to make it.

I as as man will be upset and wish death for my wife if I find another man on top of her. If she wanted sex, I am a ready outlet for her. her case is different from the woman who is not married.

My case as her husband is different from the case of a male who is not married either, since I have her as a ready made partner as well.


It is loosely similar for your understanding to a billionaire going to steal a loaf of bread at the local grocery store versus the poor homeless man doing the same. Should they in fairness of Justice receive the same punishment? The billionaire has no reason for the stealing while the homeless man may be blamed, the punishment of the billionaire should be harder.

^^^^^^ Did Jesus of the Bible know about the whole future? The answer is no, his reason from the Bible he couldnt pinpoint the time of the hour.

With this is incomplete knowledge of things in mind, The God Who sent him as His servant to the house of Israel only made him a way during his prophetic office. This started from when he began his Gospel and lasted until the next prophet, the Another Comforter began his own Prophetic office. it is the prophetic office of the Another comforter that will last til the end of human race, the reason Jesus was lifted to heaven so that another Comforter may come.

is jesus the "only way" for mankind? No.

Adam was the only way when he was on earth. We know that Cain erred because he did not follow Adam.

Noah was the only way in his time, the reason those who entered the vessel with him didnt persh like those who refused,

Lot was the only way within his community, the reason the majority perished, including his wife.

Moses was the only way in his time the reason the nations of Israel were saved while those who rejected him perished; Pharaoh was a good example of those who rejected his guidance.

Jesus is no more the way today, since Muhammad (AS) the Comforter of our time is.

Is Melchisedec of the OT Jesus of the NT?

If yes, how many Jesus(es) do we have?

If not, was the beginning and the end of Jesus not inferior to what is known of Melchisedec, who the Bible left still roaming the earth, still?

@PastorAIO: What did Ifa tell you about it, Awo?


You would have served the Ifa community well, if you call yourself Ifamuyiwa, instead of hiding behind your index finger calling yourself "Pastor".

The old man is better looking than his hard look of the 1960s.

We should wish him good health, even though everyone will die.

No one can predict the outcome of any event. The future is in the Hand of Almighty Allah.

Ojukwu was a strong man in his days. You know strength when you see it. He wasnt cunning. He was straight forward. His people first. After all he was Igbo before he was Nigerian.

I wish him good health and guidance of Almighty Allah.

^^^^^^Your heart is hard against guidance. So is the heart of InesQor who is your "Abu Jahal" as you are Abu Talib.


Google the two names, because your personality is definitely Abu Talib's, and InesQor is nothing less that Abu Jahal.


The good news is that both of you are on earth, yet. There is always a door of forgiveness opened until death bed.

@Geniro: « #5 on: Today at 02:04:45 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: bashy_demy on Today at 12:44:40 AM
Thx for that sweetnecta yummyuk where are you?

Yummyuk You don't need to answer this guys. Seyibrown and Aletheia nailed this fake Islamic preachers with their deceitful quran and hadith in the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-527852.288.html[/Quote]I didnt see how they defeated anyone.



[Quote]yet they don't seem to understand their folly of making the same mistake all over again, so shameful .

Take a look of what the quran has to say concerning the black race and this losers are still bathing in a religion that considers them outcast because of their skin colour. . When did a Yoruba man become arab. enjoy this fellas.
a reply by Aletheia to the deceitful islamic propagators. The red part was Aletheia reply to one of the fakers when he claimed being arab despite a yoruba man. He sold his soul already.[/Quote]How did I sell my soul and to whom, when almost every yoruba person says we came from Makka? Where is Makka and are you a yoruba? Maybe you should ask those who know the origin of Yoruba. Obasanjo just wrote a book about Yoruaba and their father's father Lamurudu leave Makka to establish in the Southern West of the River Niger.



[Quote]The boldened part below is the quran saying that as a black man, they are destined to die and rot in hell. What a racial god islam worship

^Really pathetic. I thought you have always exulted in your Yorubaness. What slave mentality. Just like the black slaves that tried to ape their white masters in slave-era America. No Arab will accept you as an Arab. Keep deluding yourself. You are now at the point where you will believe any lie---even the ones you tell yourself to avoid facing the truth:[/Quote]All the Arab friends I have, their parents call me son; AbdelKarim in Casablanca Morocco is one. I lived with them here in USA. And there was a family that offered their daughter to me as wife, except that I didnt take her, rather she didnt take me since I always have to honor women. I dont know what Aletheia knows about anything, especially a man like him who is ashamed of his heritage. I am as yoruba as they come. Yet by heritage of my yorubaness, even christian Yoruba knows that the tribe under Lamurudu and his son Oduduwa came from Makka.



[Quote]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12)[/Quote]This is similar to the Yellow cake argument of Dick Cheney which made Colin Powell go to UN. At the end of the day, Cheney and Wolfowitz lied. Where is the Love and Truth except that they are from the Creator. Jesus the slave cant boast of it. And your selling him to me is completely rejected.



[Quote]I have always told you that you are a fake Muslim because you know little about the Religion you profess. Here is what your Religion says about you black man.[/Quote]If I am a fake, it is better to enter Jannah with being ignorant than enter Jahanam with a whole lot of knowledge that does not benefit.



[Quote]Narrated AbudDarda'
Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Allah created Adam when He had to create him and He struck his right shoulder and there emitted from it white offspring as if they were white ants. He struck his left shoulder and there emitted from it THE BLACK OFFSPRINGS as if they were charcoal. He then said (to those who had been emitted) from the right (shoulder): For Paradise and I do not mind. Then He said to those (who had been emitted) from his left shoulder: They are for Hell and I do not mind.
Transmitted by Ahmad. (Al-Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 38)[/Quote]And just to tell you that the Black Offsprings here do not Black people, but the identity of people of hell fire, because those who will be in Paradise are not white ants (read the hadith), the Muadhin of Muhammad (AS) was Bilal Rabah (RA) over all arabs, including Ali bin Mutalib the cousin (RA) of the Messenger who married the only surviving offspring of the Messenger, Fatima (RA). The woman who wet nursed the messenger (AS) Alima was black. Muhammad (AS) said he saw Bilal Rabah (RA) in Paradise. Are you christian people mad with your lies?


@Yommyuk: Ask those who know about Yoruba history. Aletheia is not Yoruba anyhow. So his opinion is that of the ignorance.

@All the Christians: You want to go for Jesus, its your life. You meet Satan who has made Jesus god to you. Jesus will definitely deny you. I affirmed it. After this, I leave the thread alone for your momentary false happiness. We in Islam have invited you to Paradise. You have refused instead are inviting us to hell fire. What form of graciousness is that from you? The word "infidel" is not in the Quran, but it is in the Bible. Check it out. A disbeliever is either a Kafirin (disbeliever) or Mushrikin (Pagan). Infidel is not a word used without word that it qualifies.

19:67: Does man not remember that We created him before, while he was nothing?

19:68: So by your Lord, We will surely gather them and the devils; then We will bring them to be present around Hell upon their knees.

19:69: Then We will surely extract from every sect those of them who were worst against the Most Merciful in insolence.

19:70 Then, surely it is We who are most knowing of those most worthy of burning therein.

19:71: And there is none of you except he will come to it. This is upon your Lord an inevitability decreed.

19:72: Then We will save those who feared Allah and leave the wrongdoers within it, on their knees.

19:73 And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who disbelieve say to those who believe, "Which of [our] two parties is best in position and best in association?"

19:74: And how many a generation have We destroyed before them who were better in possessions and [outward] appearance?

19:75: Say, "Whoever is in error - let the Most Merciful extend for him an extension [in wealth and time] until, when they see that which they were promised - either punishment [in this world] or the Hour [of resurrection] - they will come to know who is worst in position and weaker in soldiers."

19:76: And Allah increases those who were guided, in guidance, and the enduring good deeds are better to your Lord for reward and better for recourse.

19:77: Then, have you seen he who disbelieved in Our verses and said, "I will surely be given wealth and children [in the next life]?"

19:78: Has he looked into the unseen, or has he taken from the Most Merciful a promise?

19:79: No! We will record what he says and extend for him from the punishment extensively.

19:80: And We will inherit him [in] what he mentions, and he will come to Us alone.

19:81: And they have taken besides Allah [false] deities that they would be for them [a source of] honor.

19:82: No! Those "gods" will deny their worship of them and will be against them opponents [on the Day of Judgement].

19:83: Do you not see that We have sent the devils upon the disbelievers, inciting them to [evil] with [constant] incitement?

19:84: So be not impatient over them. We only count out to them a [limited] number.

19:85: On the Day We will gather the righteous to the Most Merciful as a delegation

19:86: And will drive the criminals to Hell in thirst

19:87: None will have [power of] intercession except he who had taken from the Most Merciful a covenant.

19:88: And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son."

19:89: You have done an atrocious thing.

19:90: The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation

19:91: That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.

19:92: And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.

19:93: There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant.

19:94: He has enumerated them and counted them a [full] counting.

19:95: And all of them are coming to Him on the Day of Resurrection alone.

19:96: Indeed, those who have believed and done righteous deeds - the Most Merciful will appoint for them affection.

19:97: So, [O Muhammad], We have only made Qur'an easy in the Arabic language that you may give good tidings thereby to the righteous and warn thereby a hostile people.

19:98: And how many have We destroyed before them of generations? Do you perceive of them anyone or hear from them a sound?

@Jmaine; You love Psalm. Why a christian?

Why not quote Gospel of Jesus instead of Psalm of David?

Inferiority complex, it seems to me.

@Olaadegbu: thanks for all your videos. May God reward you for your work, adequately as is to be metered out, for good work or bad work, which it is to your Creator.

In each of the videos, the people giving their testimonies always show their lack of knowledge of Islam. that included the black woman above with the strangest of accent. There is no pace that Allah says that the people of Islam should consult the people of the books for true knowledge except that it is a challenge to the people of the books when the muslims approach them with the truth, forcing them to affirm what they have hidden. A good example of this is the law of adultery in the Torah which the Jews of Madina were forced to read it in their book.

It is similar in an esoteric way when I force the guy Aletheia to accept that 100% of a product is only for that time, the place, that situation. In a different condition a different amount of the same product is considered 100%.

In Surah Maryam, Allah says that He allows/send the evil one/satan to the disbelievers.

The african woman based on her accent met her evil one/satan because of her disbelief, the reason she was enchanted by mere church singing. She would have fell for the Hindu music/songs, too.


Finally, since she did not give any reference for the verses, chapters of Quran are called Surah, which at least the first Surah (Fatiha) must be completely read in a salah. She prayed like the others in their videos prayed, telling me from what I say that none of them was ever a Muslim.

Finally, Allah says in Surah Maryam that everything comes to Allah as servants, created. That include Jesus and the Holy Spirit, no holy ghost in Islam. Further, when Jesus was being told that his followers will be raised above the disbelievers, that was in the time of Jesus, as he is referred to as a muslim, and his companions were too. When the granddaddy of all messengers and prophets, Muhammad (AS to all prophets) arrived, whosoever continues to follow Jesus from that moment of the first revelation of the Quran, he/she is a disbeliever. We must understand that the true companions of Jesus did not take him as a God, or son of God, or accepted that he died on the cross or died on earth. True muslims believe these. whoever deviated from this is a disbeliever and will not be counted as a follower of Jesus, even when Muhammad had not even arrived. When he arrived, the door of being a follower of Jesus got shutdown.

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@^^^
When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, (Acts 7:54-57)[/Quote]Did he see God on the left of the son of man? The same God Who no human eyes have seen, ever?

my man, did you ever run in the Spanish running of the Bull?

I see the imprint of huffs on your head. It could have been crushed if you didnt have a very thick skull.

[Quote]The status of being firstborn was one of tremendous importance in the ancient times. It meant that you had the headship of the family upon your father’s death. It meant that you received a double portion of the inheritance, and I want to note that this is the only place in the Old Testament where Israel is identified as the firstborn of God. That image of the pre-eminence of Israel amongst all the nations as the firstborn will be transferred in the New Testament to the Lord Jesus Christ who has pre-imminence in the heart of the Father above all things in the created order.
Jesus Christ is the Ultimate fulfillment of this prophesy confimed in Hebrew 1:6 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."[/Quote]there used to be a man named Jacob who was renamed Israel. if Israel under Moses was the first born, before Jesus there were first borns and even begotten son! transferring title to Jesus is a hoax when he was not called Immanuel just once in all his over 30somethning years he was on earth. if yommyuk is not ashamed of his pranks, there is another comforter who finished up the job that jesus couldnt complete.
this another comforter heard from God Almighty and repeated exactly what he heard, even when Surah Abasa was revealed.
this another comforter corrected the lies hauled on Jesus and his mother.
this another comforter reminded and corrected the stupidity of people who made God multiple deities, and we now accept that God is One Lord.
this another comforter taught and led everyone who wishes to all truth that all worships and begging, supplication, etc belong to One God .
this another comforter abides with the believers by what he heard from God and repeated, by his examples and by his speech.

While yommyuk passes a servant as son, the yorubas have a saying "tia ba ka eru, inu eru a baje" Is Jesus not a slave, servant of God Almighty?

how is it that a God has a father?

was he really God if he has a father?


how is it that The God will have a son? what purpose is the son?

the son who prayed a rejected prayer to The God can be accepted that he is real son. why would The God reject the prayer of His if He has any?

why would a son cry out to The God in a manner that betrays that he is not a son but a servant?


shouldnt he have beieved and be steadfast in the duty?

why say my God my God instead of my father my father or my partner my partner?


there is no god but The One God. Lord of all things He is.

^^^^^^^ gullible mind. why wouldnt a man heaped with all forms of convoluted "honors" means all to you?

after all, you fail to take responsibility for yourself.

in the Bible we see that the inequity of the wrong doer shall rest on that wrong doer. the reward of good doer is it not good reward for his good deed, from his Lord God because he trusted and relied and obeyed Him?


Is an evil man not punished for his evil if he didnt mend his ways and be obedient to God Who created him? Does the evil man have a supporter against God?

When Jesus said that he was not "Good", was he lying or telling the truth, aletheia? You cant cram up the answer in the real world.

When I see these videos, it reminds me of the lowest kind of gimmick. Pakistan has her own share of hindus and christians. to bring an unidentified person passing that person as a former musllim when clearly he/she is not from what was said is nothing but fraud.

I guess is time to abuse when 2 christians can put their knowledge together to tackle a simple question.


The Ifa oracle didnt help the clown pretending to be a pastor. And that one; the thing.


Imagine them! Imagine that!

@Aletheia; Who is the Holy Spirit in The Quran?


"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.  (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"



And the Egyptian woman in the video has not a single Misr (Egyptian accent).

The homes of Egyptians in  USA will definitely include Jersey City, New Jersey. Around Sip and Kennedy Avenues, with Tonelli and Pavonia Streets.
They have churches in there. And I lived about 3 years in Jersey City, attending only Egyptian mosques; Masjid Salaam, Masjid Tawhid, and even the Islamic Center.


When you hear an egyptian speaks, I know women quickly adapt to the language of the host country, the people of Dhaal (Arabs are so called because the Dhaal Alphabet is unique to them) cant but show their arabness in the pronunciation of the R as well. Is like an Indian unique pronunciation of of V instead of W, similar to chinese saying Lice instead of Rice, also similar to germans saying Vaderland instead of Fatherland and my people of Oyo State saying Benshin instead Benson.

The Christians are desperate in their dubious post. How do you post lies making it as if it is the only truth?


@Jmaine; from where am standing, there is nothing mighty about worshiping idols. God Almighty is One and there is no partner with Him. If your worship extends to include a co god, if you call him God, he or it or her is nothing but an idol. When you make your prayers through any entity, it is a god and such prayer is rejected by God Almighty Who is One Lord.

@Olaadegbu: "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (The Noble Quran, 9:30)"

"They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god (false God of any kind to be valid) but He (The God WHo is the Only Lord God Almighty Creator). Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners (for example of this assumed partnership the christian developed their Trinity and even made the Utterance/Word of God, not as the process/avenue of Command of God. But they conjure a human being from it, hence make that human because of being fatherless God Almighty as well giving an impression of Duality, even if Trinity is shutdown) they associate (with Him). (The Noble Quran, 9:31)

professional wrestling fight, is like clowning.

better yet; is father christmas real?

why didnt the person use jesus statements (I guess something in the Gospel, instead of what David (according to the christian he was a womanizer) said?

Christianity is full of hypocrisy. You said Jesus ended everything, but cant use his words to do anything. You have to cure yourself by using the words of David. Who is better, if miracle upon yourself is a proof?

Pagans/polytheists.

No christian has ever got better only on Gospel.

They always have to run to Psalm.

Allahu Akbar. What is worship of Allah in all the self punishment, blood and cries? Anyway, I copied the piece below from the section of Islamic cult on www.answering-christianity.com.
It speaks to all of us, including the author. Islam by nature is an Advise. There is no compulsion in this advice, below.

The Jews had fell into the same sin many Muslims are falling into today, and Allah Almighty considered them as "polytheists".
I have written the following on my Message Board at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/message_board_islam/read_post.cgi?file_name=7/3.txt

Here is a Hadith (Saying of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) that prohibits exaggeration in praising and glorification of others:
Narrated 'Umar: "I heard the Prophet saying, 'Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654)"

While the Hadith here is talking about Prophet Muhammad only, but the wisdom behind and the bottom line of it is that any exaggeration in praising men created from dust is a sin!

The Jews had fell into this very sin before. Here is what Allah Almighty said about them:
"The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (The Noble Quran, 9:30)"

"They take their priests and their authorities to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). (The Noble Quran, 9:31)"

While the Jews are not trinitarians as most Christians are, but they still had fell into the sin of polytheism by glorifying men created from dust. All they had to do is elate their priests and authorities to a higher level than they deserve.
The Sunni Muslims do fall into this sin as well! Those from the Sunnis who blow up Shia Mosques just because Shias disagree with the political views of the first three Caliphs and how they handled certain situations in the past, 1500 years ago, is a BIG CRIME AND POSSIBLY A POLYTHEISM (shirk)!

Those of the Sunni Muslims that do that, along with the Shias that flog themselves with metal chains until they bleed to praise and glorify men created from dust are AS MUCH SINFUL AS THE JEWS WHOM ALLAH ALMIGHTY CURSED IN THE NOBLE QURAN AND CONSIDERED AS POLYTHEISTS, EVEN THOUGH JUDAISM HAS NO FORM OF POLYTHEISM IN IT.

Again, remember that Allah Almighty Said:
"If God were to punish men according to what they deserve, He would not leave on the back of the (earth) a single living creature: but He gives them respite for a stated Term: when their Term expires, verily God has in His sight all His Servants. (The Noble Quran, 35:45)"

"If Allah were to punish Men for their wrongdoing, He would not leave, on the (earth), A single living creature: But He gives them respite For a stated Term: When their Term expires, They would not be able To delay (the punishment) For a single hour, just as They would not be able To anticipate it (for a single hour). (The Noble Quran, 16:61)"
Again, I would like for any Muslim Sunni or Muslim Shia to tell me if Allah Almighty would leave on the face of the earth any of the Disciples or Imams alive if He were to punish Mankind for their sins.

2- A refutation to some moronic Muslims who worship the Prophet and his companions:
Let us look at what Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

"The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (The Noble Quran, 3:59)"
"But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing? (The Noble Quran, 19:67)"

While Noble Verse 3:59 on the surface seems to be only limited to Jesus and Adam peace be upon them, but to any person with an atom of a brain and thinking capability, it includes all Prophets and all Messengers of GOD Almighty. So technically we can say:
"The similitude of Jesus (son of Adam being human and member of the human family) before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. (The Noble Quran, 3:59)"

So why am I saying this? And what is the purpose of this section? First of all, this Noble Verse came down to respond to trinitarian christians who glorify and praise Jesus. Allah Almighty responded to them and made it crystal clear that Jesus is no more than a creation of GOD Almighty created from worthless dust by virtue of us being extension of Adam, being his children, just like Adam and the rest of us.

As I fully described in the previous section above, some of the modern Muslims today are doing the same exact sin as the Jews did. They glorify not only the Prophet, peace be upon him, himself, but they also glorify and praise his companions; ordinary righteous people like any ordinary righteous person today. They were not appointed by GOD Almighty for any Divine Mission, and yet, they are still being praised and glorified. Not that if they were appointed for a Divine Mission they should be glorified and praised. These people are being praised and glorified to a point where some Muslim fanatics literally kill other Muslims for them as I explained in the above section, because the others have some disagreements with their political ways and how they handled certain situations in the past, 1500 years ago.


Are modern-day Salafies really following the original teachings of Prophet Muhammad and his companions?
3- I don't think the Muslim fanatics really understand the true meaning of polytheism?

palestinians and indeed arabs have always have jews, christians among them. so to show us palestinian or arab looking people as a proof that christianity is a farse.

@Aletheia; "They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). (The Noble Quran, 9:31)"

In the Bible Jesus said to the audience; your Lord and my Lord is but One God.

All previous Messengers and Prophets before him said; There is Only One God the Lord Who everyone must serve.

Are the above in agreement with one another, or is anyone among them in anyway in either agreement or disagreement with the below:

Jesus said I am Your Lord God?


After the immediate above, did Jesus confessed that he has an Everliving and Never dying, all capable Lord God Who is One that Jesus called Elaw? Jesus didnt say Yahweh or Elohim or Adonia or Jehovah. You see how Jesus was against Jesus at the same time against the christians?

26:214 And warn, [O Muhammad], your closest kindred.


26:215 And lower your wing to those who follow you of the believers.


26:216 And if they disobey you, then say, "Indeed, I am disassociated from what you are doing."


26:217 And rely upon the Exalted in Might, the Merciful,


26:218 Who sees you when you arise


26:219 And your movement among those who prostrate.


26:220 Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

Jmaine has 3 living gods; ghost, jesus and father.

^^^^^^^ None of the faces seemed to have touched the floor for the pleasure of Allah.


@Aletheia; Surah Poet

26:191 And indeed, your Lord - He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.
26:192 And indeed, the Qur'an is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds.
26:193 The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down
26:194 Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners -
26:195 In a clear Arabic language.
26:196 And indeed, it is [mentioned] in the scriptures of former peoples.
26:197 And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?
26:198 And even if We had revealed it to one among the foreigners
26:199 And he had recited it to them [perfectly], they would [still] not have been believers in it.
26:200 Thus have We inserted disbelief into the hearts of the criminals.
26:201 They will not believe in it until they see the painful punishment.
26:202 And it will come to them suddenly while they perceive [it] not.
26:203 And they will say, "May we be reprieved?"
26:204 So for Our punishment are they impatient?
26:205 Then have you considered if We gave them enjoyment for years
26:206 And then there came to them that which they were promised?
26:207 They would not be availed by the enjoyment with which they were provided.
26:208 And We did not destroy any city except that it had warners
26:209 As a reminder; and never have We been unjust.
26:210 And the devils have not brought the revelation down.
26:211 It is not allowable for them, nor would they be able.
26:212 Indeed they, from [its] hearing, are removed.
26:213 So do not invoke with Allah another deity and [thus] be among the punished.
26:214 And warn, [O Muhammad], your closest kindred.
26:215 And lower your wing to those who follow you of the believers.
26:216 And if they disobey you, then say, "Indeed, I am disassociated from what you are doing."
26:217 And rely upon the Exalted in Might, the Merciful,
26:218 Who sees you when you arise
26:219 And your movement among those who prostrate.
26:220 Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
26:221 Shall I inform you upon whom the devils descend?
26:222 They descend upon every sinful liar.
26:223 They pass on what is heard, and most of them are liars.
26:224 And the poets - [only] the deviators follow them;
26:225 Do you not see that in every valley they roam
26:226 And that they say what they do not do? -
26:227 Except those [poets] who believe and do righteous deeds and remember Allah often and defend [the Muslims] after they were wronged. And those who have wronged are going to know to what [kind of] return they will be returned.

^^^^^^^ is this not similar to 3 is 1 or 1 is 3?


Trinity is 3 by the Tri in it.

You seyi said jesus is Lord.

You seyi said ghost is Lord,

You seyi said Yaweh is Lord.

But each is different.

They are not one, otherwise when you said Jesus died for 3 days, each would also have died for 3 days.

did yahweh andor ghost died, too?

^^^^^^^^^ Olaadegbu, the question was if God said Jesus was the "way" to Him, and no one else was, from the beginning of mankind to the last generation?

Jesus didnt say he was the was the only way to God, from Adam to even generation after Jesus.

^^^^^^^^^ the funny man begged the question. I am an authentic arab by many reasons; my Yorubaness and my Islam. How are you a greek? if you said syriac, or child of Israel, I will try to introduce you to my Jewish neighbors.


The messenger (AS) states whoever speaks arabic is an arab. This is similar to what we yoruba people say; if you speak yoruba, o ti yoruba ni yen. My bride is one of those; different ethnic blood, but lagos born and speaks omo eko yoruba. You should try it sometimes.


There above, was the question for your conscience; Jesus is fully God according to you.
Ghost is fully God according to you.
Yahweh is fully God according to you.

Aletheia, how many God are there, above?

take away One God, say jesus in this case. How many God left to reckorn with?

take away another One God, say ghost in this case. How many God left to reckorn with?

Is what remain not a fully capable God? If yes, then know that what you have taken away in the two do loop process were mere gods.

Or is t possible that we can take away Yahweh and still have a God left? Will Jesus be a sufficient God if there is no Yahweh? Will Ghost be a sufficient God if there is no Yahweh? Does Yahweh need Jesus to be Yahweh? Does Jesus have independence from Yahweh?


Aletheia, this is not a crammed up classroom material!


Your soul depends on the reality of your answer. Dont let your ego stands against your Paradise.

@Tonye-T the wimp.

I hope you heard what Olaadegbu said about satan? he called satan a roaring lion.


Is lion not an animal?


Well, we see the hadith of Muhammad (AS) about shaytan that people cant ordinarily see.
You laughed becuase you said it was a superstition.


how did jesus deal with the reality of satan that tormented him in trial for 40 days in the wilderness?
Is it possible that satan can torment Yahweh? if any claims to be Yahweh and yet fell under the control of satan, can we not say that is an entity not to be believed? i am laughing at tonye-t in laughter of his tribal tradition when they think a person is a joke.

@Olaadegbu: I have one for you about the "Track".

Which is Correct; God is One Lord

or

There are three gods; yahweh, jesus and then ghost?


Which one is on the Right or Correct Track?


How do you hook up Yahweh and Jesus and ghost to form One God which jesus said sent him?