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QueenDeborah:
LOL, I hope so

Same here too. I have used the airtime to purchase data before they decide to wipe it.

They even gave me the 8.5gb upfront data too.

BruncleZuma:
I'm an supporter of psy-ops whenever we misplace munitions or weapons we rig them to explode...use SF assets to create the impression of ghosts, harass their bases with SF infiltrations and take out key commanders then follow it up with arty and CBU 100s from our Alphas...pick up that Mama BH and that cookie reporter and hold them incommunicado.

In essence make them doubt themselves and their leaders, make them unsure of their equipment, food and medicines.

Those places are rigged wIth land mines so majority of SF ops will get blown before commencement.

I have a family friend who's a colonel. He said after the chibok girls were kidnapped, they were waiting for the order to get them which didn't come out within 24hrs. He said since such order didn't come out within that time frame, going into the enemy territory just like that will be dangerous as everywhere will be filled wIth landmines.


My own suggestion is this, look at that attack on the crashed helicopter site. Wish our guys had rigged explosive in that environment before they left. BHT would have been left with casualties.

Shukusheka:
Nigerian policewoman armed with a rifle? I haven't.

Seen alot of them in Nigeria. They even go outside the wire during peace keeping.

BruncleZuma:
You still haven't gotten my point; we can but "we" don't see the importance of it.

Maybe we need to start seeing the benefits. In my opinion, some actions are not taken into consideration due to limited manpower and resources.



What's your own opinion towards the BHT menace?

BruncleZuma:
Uncle you sabi how much each sortie dey cost...



I'm sure BHT know this.

A long endurance UAV will save cost. That's what nemesis4u advised. If you spend 50# on 10 long endurance UAV together fly for 8 hours, I'm sure you'll cover over 3000km in a day.

How many territory does BHT control 3000km radius? Plus you can't spend near such among on the UAV.

BruncleZuma:
My point exactly, there are SF assets on ground looking for him and he's still elusive. BHT can be contained but they'll need to be destroyed from the inside.

Yes. But SF will need a good Intel to execute their missions. ELINT will compliment HUMINT on ground.

I just feel, why can't the airforce perform ISR coverage of all bokoharam territories? According to them, they have control of most areas now leaving just little to bokoharam. How are they still able to launch massive attacks on villages?
The whole thing sounds funny.

Shukusheka:
No body is going to give a police woman a rifle. It is either she works as a traffic warden or she works from the office doing administrative work.

If this one see robbers na she go first tear race.

Nobody will do what? You've never seen women police wIth riffles?

Most of them are under MOPOL Or EOD. Those ones do carry riffle.

BruncleZuma:


Call me when dem catch Kony...

Nah, forget Joseph Kony is a wise man. They'll obviously see is trail but not him.

Just like Pablo, wanted and still chilled at the front of the White House.

Bullshit. What sort of rubbish is this?

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BruncleZuma:
True that...they'd need HUMINT for a cat like SKU

What of ELINT? Dude uses cellphone and walkie talkie.

BruncleZuma:


They have other fishes to fry until Shekau attacks a US asset.

Sure but that doesn't stop them from monitoring shekau.

Xbee007:
The picture was taken this February.
Probably preparing to be transported for the airshow. Nigeria's JF17 is not coming from China.

All jf17 airframe are being produced in China. Hence why I asked.

BruncleZuma:
That is true and it'll take a while.

imo, US has been tracking shekau and I'm sure they know where the nigga is.

Xbee007:
I think Jake was right when he said they will be used in the Singaporean Airshow.

Yes but this particular one was spotted at Chengdu, china.

jakeporeshenko:
china is marketing them at Singapore air show right now.

Ministry of defence should place orders through these guys. We can even have them upgraded and customized.

I'm just curious who owns that airframe. I pray its Nigeria.

BruncleZuma:
This Whack-a-mole is becoming unfunny and tiring.

One fact is they may not even be in Nigeria. The military in my opinion may have control of the whole sambisa but in as much as that shekau is not arrested, his propaganda will always overshadow that of the security agencies.

There's this slogan mostly being used by a group of Cyber / electronic warfare students in my school. Signals can run but can't hide.

There was a project on behalf of the Chinese government which was done by these students including some military specialist which I attend. SIGINT was performed and then a repeater was designed and mounted on a drone to extend signals. Covering up to 120Km radius, every single calls and communication was monitored.

Internet services was monitored too.
These guys damn bugged every single mobile phones by turning on the microphone so every single conversation of yours are being monitored. Since China has a free Wi-Fi coverage depending on your network provider, they were able to intercept Internet activities too.

NB: there was restrictions but I was glad to witness the few I can as a foreigner.

In my opinion, the introduction of cyber and electronic warfare will bring down bokoharam capabilities by 50%. Their sponsors will also be exposed.

Who owns that JF17?

CC BIDEXII

Compared to Western soldiers, lower-ranking Russian troops may lack initiative at the lower levels, but that’s not true for higher echelons of command, especially among those blooded in Ukraine, McDermott said: “The Russian generals that are rotating in and out of Donbas have a similar level of initiative, in my view, to their western counterparts.”

It’s also worth noting that the Russian army’s EW branch has its own general officers, with the equivalent of an American two-star as the branch chief (Major General Yuriy Lastochkin). A 2016 article in the official journal of the General Staff even proposed elevating electronic warfare from a support function to a full-fledged combat arm. By contrast, the highest-ranking electronic warfare officer in the United States Army is a colonel, and US Armyelectronic warfare is being subsumed into the newly created cyber branch.

Perhaps this lack of institutional advocates explains why US Army electronic warfare forces still don’t have a long-range offensive jammer, only short-range systems to neutralize roadside bombs, although some stopgap systems are being fielded. Meanwhile the Russian army has an arsenal of electronic warfare gear and plenty of troops experienced in using it.

Russian Capabilities

How big is the Russian electronic warfare force? The real numbers are naturally a state secret, but Kofman was willing to help me make a rough estimate of nearly 9,000 in the ground forces alone, with thousands more in the navy and air force. In stark contrast to the United States, where the main remaining EW force is Navy aircraft — Growlers and Prowlers — and the Army has almost nothing, Russia’s most powerful EW is in the Army.

The big deal isn’t just how big these Russian EW forces are: It’s how intimately they’re integrated with combat units and thus combat operations. “It’s found throughout every arm of service, every branch of service, it’s almost impossible to avoid EW capability, which very much contrasts to western militaries,” said McDermott. “If we look at the staff officers in a United States brigade, we’re going to find two, maybe three maximum.”

In stark contrast to the US, since 2008, every single Russian combat brigade has been given its own electronic warfare company: McDermott estimates its strength at “150 to 180 EW specialists,” while Kofman suspects it’s less than half that, 75. Even at a compromise guesstimate of 100 per company, with one company in each of 28 motor-rife and tank “separate brigades,” that’s 2,800 EW specialists just in frontline tactical units alone, equipped with jammers that reach out roughly thirty miles (50 km).

What’s more, there are five independent “EW brigades” — really more like battalions at 1,200 troops apiece — that have more powerful equipment, with ranges of “several hundreds of kilometers” according to McDermott. These brigades add another 6,000 personnel. That’s not counting the inevitable overhead of troops not currently in a unit, for example because they’re students or instructors at advanced technical schools.

Now, not all these soldiers are chess-playing Russian geniuses. One of the best sources on the ostensibly covert war in Ukraine is social media posts by Russian troops, often complete with geographic metadata that clearly places them on the wrong side of the border. Even sensitive electronic warfare equipment shows up on shared photos.

“When you look at the social media you can find almost all of the known systems, Russian EW systems, popping up somewhere in Donbas,” said McDermott, “maybe not for terribly long but they were certainly there and certainly experimenting.” The Russians appear to be putting all their technology through a trial by fire in Ukraine to see how well it works and what tactics are best.

Even for the majority of units that don’t get to go to Ukraine, said Kofman, the integration of electronic warfare into every frontline brigade gives conventional combat-arms commanders first-hand experience working with EW personnel, technology, and tactics.

“We can’t just strip out the EW capability and look at it separately (from) cyber, SIGINT (signals intelligence), air defense,” McDermott said. In Ukraine, for instance, Russian electronic warfare units not only jammed international monitoring drones: They also worked intimately together with Russia’s own drones and its dreaded rocket artillery batteries. Russia EW would jam some Ukrainian communications and triangulate others, finding possible targets that the drones would confirm before calling in a crushing barrage.

“The Russian military is incredibly good at killing things if it can find them, but it always historically struggles at seeing on the battlefield,” said Michael Kofman, a senior research scientist at CNA, who spoke at CSIS alongside McDermott. Electronic warfare simultaneously helps the Russians see the enemy better and blinds the enemy so they can’t target the Russians. The aim is to disrupt the entire “kill chain” — from initial sensor detection of a target, through the decision to engage, to actually hitting it — so Western airpower and long-range precision-guided weapons can’t be brought to bear.

What if the West jams back? Giving their history of grueling combat, the Russians seem confident they’ll prevail in a conflict where both sides are half-blind. That makes them less worried about how discriminate their own jamming is and whether it interfere with some of their own systems. “How do they operate without jamming themselves?” Kofman said. “The answer is they don’t, they do jam themselves.”

They also train to fight under such conditions, he said. That’s evident from the recent Zapad (West) exercises, in which the Russians conducted live electronic jamming — some of itspilling over into NATO territory, accidentally or otherwise — alongside conventional mechanized maneuvers.

Besides enhancing traditional heavy firepower operations, Kofman said, EW also gives Russian commanders the option of “non-contact operations” to jam, blind, disrupt, and demoralize the enemy without ever firing a shot — indeed, without ever violating NATO territory. Such blurring of the lines between war and peace to create a “grey zone” has become a Russian specialty in recent years.

Without the means to fight back in kind, NATO has no good choices against such grey zone tactics. Deescalate and you let Russian get away with whatever bullying, subversion, or outright annexation it was trying. Escalate and you invite the Russians to unleash their formidable conventional forces. In short, McDermott said, “on Russia’s periphery, Russia has escalation dominance.”

That doesn’t mean they can just flip a switch and remotely turn off NATO’s electronics, McDermott emphasized. “They won’t take it all out,” he said, “(but) they will build the EW component into …. making any NATO operation in the Baltic, or elsewhere on NATO’s eastern flank, as difficult, as costly, as complex, as possible….and in worse case scenario, we lose.”

The Russians are hardly invincible, Roger McDermott emphasized at CSIS on Monday. The story of them “shutting down” the Aegis radar on the USS Cook in 2014 is pure propaganda, he said, and their soldiers let slip secrets on social media just as ours do overFitbit. But nevertheless, Russian EW forces are numerous, well-equipped, well-coordinated with other combat arms like air defense andartillery, and above all honed by years of electronic combat — all things their US Army counterparts are not.That makes it “more vital and pressing” torebuild western electronic warfare than to build up new capabilities in cyber warfare, McDermott writes. Ironically, McDermott’s studywas sponsored in part by the Estonian government, which has focused on cyber ever since Russian hackers took down its internet in 2007.Russian Successes

Since McDermott first presented his paper in Estonia last fall, Russia has shown off its electronic warfare skills in combat once again, this time in Syria. In early January, a still-unknown party launched 13 armed drones against the Russian HQ at Hmeimin airbase and against the Russian naval base at Tartus.

In contrast to previous attacks by old-fashioned mortars that killed two Russian servicemen, none of the drones reached their targets. Seven were destroyed by the Pantsir (Shell) anti-aircraft system, which fired expensive missiles at the cheap drones. The other six were neutralized electronically, which could mean anything from sending them false commands — a hybrid cyber/electronic warfare attack — to old-school, brute-force radio jamming of their GPS receivers or control links so they couldn’t navigate. Whatever the EW technique used, it was effectively free.The attempted drone swarm attack (is) way better than a snap inspection (or) simulating it or trying to exercise,” McDermott said. “One of the reasons the Russian armed forces… are booming with confidence at this point is because they’re gaining such operational experience.” Even though the drones used in Syria were “rudimentary,” McDermott said, defeating them was still good real-world practice, not only for using electronic warfare itself but for using EW in concert with other arms, in this case air defense.

It was clearly a layered defense integrating jammeres with radar and anti-aircraft missiles, agreed Samuel Bendett, a CNA expert onRussian military technology. “In this case, the 13 drones were located, identified, then jammed/hacked, (and) those that broke through were destroyed by an air defense system – all long before these drones reached their intended targets,” Bendett told me.”What’s evident now is that Russia’s plan to more closely integrate their EW forces with air/missile defenses is coming to fruition.”

QuietMynd:
kikikikikiji

E still no stop them from typing what they want.

This shit should always stop. What about a dead man triggered bomb? They're too close to the president.

Odunayaw:
First, hope popc will not get to see this post. You might be in danger of a lot of vigils and deliverance session

deomelllo:
Everything is about immediate need, focus and priorities.

1. Our immediate concern is insurgency and terrorism and you don't do that with heavy attack jets. Tucanos are well suited for our immediate need which is fighting insurgency and terrorism.

2. Tucanos are Trainers, great counter-Insurgency tools, light attack and armed Reconnaissance Aircraft, perfect for our needs.


3. Are we fighting other countries? Are we engaged or intend to engage other countries in any kind of regional battle? No.

So, where is the sense and wisdom in ignoring your most important and immediate needs just to waste money on what you don't need?


Sad that our old and worn out leaders have more sense and are sometimes more logical than our so-called leaders of tomorrow.

Did you read my post and see where I said the Tucano is for COIN. counter insurgency? You get brain so?

You just want to type and that's it.

bidexiii:
We should at least get 6 units of these jf17..

I'll be contesting in the 2023 presidential election.


My defence procurements

1) Purchase or 24 SU-35
2) total amount of JF17 Will be 36.
3) Purchase of Chinese HQ series SAMS and s300
4) Purchase of 6 frigates and 6 Corvettes
5) 300 T-90 or T-147


Make una go get una PVC and vote me in By then, Lionel4power will be proud being Nigerian

Jakumo:
Wow that is a Cessna Citation Bravo, just wasting away in the African sun. Probably it was due for a major air-frame "C" Check, and somebody decided that it would be cheaper to scrap the bird in place.

I would love to buy that plane and cut the cockpit section off to install as a serious upgrade to my home flight simulator.

If my eyes don't deceive me, there is also a 1950's era Schweizer helicopter in that hanger in the back ground. How such a bird, originally designed by the Swiss for mountain rescue, could wind up in deepest Africa, is a true mystery.

I would love to gain access to all the places in Nigeria where abandoned aircraft lie in ruins, and maybe get a chance to bid on a plane or two, before the scrap aluminium dealers show up with their cutting tools.

Both Cessna citation alpha and 2(bravos) were being used by NPF.

The airframe is due so hence retirement. The life cycle is complete already.

My advice, don't bead for a used plane here in Nigeria. I'll rather go meet some airline companies and bid for their retired aircrafts. At MMIA, there's this 787 operated by Arik. It'd just there to rot.

Absuchat:
Yes... The picture of the new jet.

The same jet I see alot of times?

Still photoshop?

Absuchat:
You know that the picture is photoshopped right?

What picture? The one I attached ?

slimthugchimee2:
Su 29......tdayof come and see oh

SU29 the production line is at aba

Fake news! That's the old one and has been out of service for years.

Those are old aircrafts that have been retired.