₦airaland Forum

dermmy:
If you can't afford America's F-15s why not go for Russian Sukhois Su-27, Su-29 or the Miggs. The Chinese J-10 and J-20. Na stones boko haram go dey use bring down these tucanos o dem no even need missiles to bring them down.

Man, we can afford them. The Chinese J-20 is extremely not for sale but the J-10 can be considered however it has a short combat radius for a country that has no other great fighters like Nigeria. The Chinese J10 are mostly being accompanied by their flankers series.

The super Tucano is a coin aircraft and that's why NIGERIA placed orders for the JF17 which will serve as a multirole aircraft for the Nigerian Airforce.

I detest this Super Tucano deal tho. Why not spend the money on few flankers.

Seened:
And here I was banking on Tdayof's mojo to work

Modified:
Oh! The 'lamentations' has already began on Nairaland's front page

I don't have the heart to tell them they have to wait for 2 years before delivery begins

As e don happen, one news there Don calm me down.

In addition, he said the government had acquired five units of caterpillar armoured mine-sweepers, new French patrol boats for the Nigerian Navy, and two fighter jets from Pakistan.

In addition, he said the government had acquired five units of caterpillar armoured mine-sweepers, new French patrol boats for the Nigerian Navy, and two fighter jets from Pakistan.



You say whatttttt?

Just30:
sorry to burst your bubbles
Our electricity issues way before you stopped providing gas.
Since then, we've spent 24B dollars to get it back on track

Nigerian is your main supply of power gas and you're owing nothing less than $180m. You said before we stopped providing gas? Hope you know we're still providing power gas to Ghana?

It's not an issue of competition but fact.

However, this doesn't stop us from being able to power our own country if not because of lack of foresight and corruption among political office holders.

jakeporeshenko:
Tdayof come and see your government! they even paid 2 weeks before deadline.

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...and I have been here having countdown.

dlondonbadboy:
So Ghana has electicity and Nigeria doesn't? God would punish FASHOLA publicly...

Ghana owes its electricity to Nigeria release of gas. The last time we shut it down over unpaid $180m, they had electricity issues.

You can read more about the electricity issue in the link attached below.


http://www.konbini.com/ng/lifestyle/finally-know-nigeria-sells-power-countries-better-power-supply/

Lol. Na so plane dey break down?

Poor journalism.

unbitchable:
I hope the Cameroonian soldiers will not be fighting on Nigerian soil, we know what Buhari said when Niger and Chadian Armies were doing so under Gej.

They will be operating together on the Nigerian soil. They've been on our soil since as part of the MNJTF. we also have troops there too (around the lake Chad region etc)

Nigerian Airforce.

Before I start reading rubbish here. You should know they're part of the MNJTF. we've got troops operating accross both borders and ever the use of air assets for joint and cross border ops

Odunayaw:

well, it was all hush hush. They even had anti-hijacking training in China

I have seen the Chinese camo scheme on our troops before. It was once posted here I think by Henry.



Bokoharam: can you give us something lite.

Burutai: walaifalai keyi orfisas give fem 100 rounds.

Odunayaw:
Nearly jumped out of my skin when I head some NAF qrf actually trained in Egypt

hopefully there is no doctrine somersault in future

Be expecting some Egyptian flag and insignia

Odunayaw:
While chilling on a ugwu tree and sipping my fresh kunu, I must say;
We need enough Attack helps(infact assault helos e.g Mi-171sh) to permanently attach to OP Lafiya Dole

Forget the Su25, supernova would happen first before we get them. We must not only retool the NAF for COIN. As much as I hate, the conventional shortcomings of NAF is too glaring hence I itch for the JFs

Yes, if we're not going to get a COIN aircraft, helicopters are okay then a good multirole fighter can do the main bombing from thousands of fts.

Any idea how much we're getting a single JF17?

kabe1:
Was the detail of the deal not provided at the time? Did you not see it's weapons package, training and cost of aircraft?

"Why is there a sudden change in opinion by most Nigerians?".............. It is primarily because of the pre-conditions set by the US government.

Can you name the Nigerians who have backed out for any other reason apart from the political conditions attached to it?

My friend, run along to your poorly, fantasy filled blog.

The conversation made sense until you added the last sentence. Everyone has right to his or her opinion and you can't just shut him down.



Now about the weapons package : that doesn't justify the price. You should have noticed something fishy when $583m turned $484m later on. Plus the post said the reason for the high price is due to alot of middle men shit that I don't care about. Now, we are waiting for 2 years to get a Tucano when you can start receiving JF17s next year if we put our orders through china.

It's obviously not a good deal. I have always supported that deal before because I know it's better we spend $5b on 5 Tucanos that hearing missing $5b. However, the conditions attached to it is a huge turn off.

My opinion:

NAF should get at least a squadron of multirole fighter jets.

We've got enough attack helicopters already + 10 more to be delivered. Then we can look at the SU25 or probably that L-15 OR the JL-9.

Lionel4power, Bidexii jakesporeshenko how much are we getting a single jf17?

newafricaken254:
Turkey deploy T-129 [Mangusta] attack helicopters in Afrin Syria 29.01.18

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_XSG6Xihhs

I respect helo pilots. They're always moving around danger. Could have been shot down easily.


The Kenyans helo, have they been pounding alshabab?

newafricaken254:
so you want say they don't eavesdrop on Nigeria communications !?

Not about eavesdropping. They have been doing that since so why worry now?

I'm more concerned about the high price so I don't care if the deal is being cancelled due to the size. Anything to make the deal crash is welcome.

newafricaken254:
NSA already knows the decision nigeria is going to make

I doubt they do. Except they're willing to relax the conditions especially our own technicians being there. Our MOD / SENATE isn't please with that.

15 days more.

jakeporeshenko:
NAF alpha jets in the republic of Niger. Note the French servicemen.
Pic by @10gwurst

Doing what?

Eastatlantaniqqa:
FOOD FOR TOUGHT


*1
The Ref Was Bias With In The First 20mins That Killed The Players Morale

* 2
I Saw 4-3-3 As The Starting Line Up But What I Saw During The Match Was 5-4-1

* 3
Why Start Eneji Moses In Final Which Is Just His Debut In The Competiton ?

* 4
We Know Okpotu Has Being Wasteful But Why Bench Him ? When He Can Cause Trouble To Their Defence .

* 5
They Were Far More A Better Side ; Well Composed , Dangerous On The Attack.

Oladapo and okputu should have started the match. The defenders were so slow too.

To the players who played tonight, we say thank you and appreciate you.

No one wants to loose intentionally, you all tried your best but adjustments needs to be made for you to be more professional. Winning doesn't happen everytime so still keep the spirit alive.

Keep the flag flying!!!

Ogetogeo:
Have u seen how many wrong parry he has done so far?

How many good saves has he performed already ? The defence is weak. If we had the same chance they have, we would have scored too.

Just look at the fourth goal.

You should learn to criticize the defenders. Very poor play from them.

Ajiboye has done well. He can't save every single ball coming his way.

Ogetogeo:
Ajiboye! Why clearing balls to opponents

Blame the defenders! They've been playing shit, no situation awareness at all.

A good keeper needs a good defence.

BruncleZuma:
True, also note that some daytime newspapers are better read by "standing committee" as they are not worth taking home.

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I pray you make heaven

Just look at that beautiful airport and compare with MMIA

Be like the Russians.


They bombed the terrorist location where the aircraft was shot down.

The link also shows when the pilot was in a shootout with the terrorists.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bexey0mDryN/

newafricaken254:
and then by the time you receive your first aircraft in 2020,Afghanistan air force will have received 159 black helicopters as planned by the US http://www.1tvnews.af/en/news/afghanistan/33155-afghan-air-force-receives-four-more-black-hawk-helicopters

That NIGERIA-US deal shall fail.

16 days countdown.

Seened:

Reminds me of the other day I strolled outside the sanity of the technical/African militaries threads; ended up in the Politics section. Saw a politics/development discussion, was beginning to offer my opinion then boom!
All hell was unleashed on me by ignorant, jumpy and misjudging posters who only see the world through the lenses of religion, ethnicity and political affiliation. I quickly ran back to this oasis of logic and reason. After that I become cautious about making political comments on this forum

(You can see the frustration tdayof, brunclezuma, slimthugchime and others go through when trying to explain relevant geopolitical and military concepts/events to the average nairalander.)

Those guys will come really hard on you. I keep saying it that the stat which says Nigeria adult literacy rate is 51% is wrong except if 95% of guys on Nairaland are still in primary school.


In the politics sections

US Approves The Sales Of A-29 Tucano to Nigeria.
Comments
Mumu country, something wey dem use fight ww1

Nigeria is still buying ww1 jets when people are flying F22, F35.

They want to use it and bomb innocent people. Trump must cancel this

[The person attaches a link ] my fellow Nairalanders sign this petition to stop the US from selling jets to Nigeria.

Shey Nigeria get airforce?

nemesis4u:
Between u and me , have u wondered that millions who have died for their country /kings etc across the world till date maybe for the right reasons or the wrong reasons , if after their deaths were given a chance to see 400-500 years into the future , would they be disappointed and consider themselves stupid for having sacrificed their lives for nothing ?

( Considering 95+ % of the various countries/civilizations they died defending etc got destroy or broken up inevitably later on. )

What's Ur opinion on it. ?


Anybody feel free to answer

Edit: Five minutes later , tdayof read it and then ran way

Had network. Issues while trying to respond. Politicians use military personnel to settle war.


Now to my answer, even the biggest patriot will prefer being patriotic just by holding showing off their flags. However, some might still go for it . Imagine a son of a man who died trying to protect a broken country also trying to join the military because he feels his commitment can fix the country.

nemesis4u:
Important thing is what r Ur goals and not the time frame.

DRDO has been testing railguns of various sorts in the labs since 90s , even then they r very very far from making a functional prototype forget about something remotely close to a production model.

It's good that countries r taking up research and development in this field , becz chances r that nobody will sell u the tech. And which country is that ?

I was kidding


To me, the government we have is the type that feels it's not necessary if the developed countries do not innovate such and also feel it's a waste of time trying to do something similar on our own since there's a country with such capability already.

In my opinion, politics and development do not go well together.

nemesis4u:
Coil gun and rail gun utilises the same operating principle but r kind of different.

Imagine 10 people standing next to each other on the side of a stream.
The 1st person on one end shoves the boat and let's go of it, next instant the 2nd person shoves the boat and adds to the initial velocity / momentum of the boat, and this happens sequentially. As a result the boat gains in speed incrementally at each persons shove , when the boat recieves the last shove at the 10th man the boat ends up with the highest velocity.
This is COIL GUN for u. A projectile is sequentially passed through on/off electromagnetic coils to generate high velocity.

Now imagine a boat across a stream and 2 man at either ends pulling it at high speed, if they can generate high momentum wile running they will impart the same velocity to the boat.
This is RAIL GUN for u. A projectile is placed between 2 guide rails connected to 2 ends of a power source, placement of the projectile completes the circuit and this generates a rotating magnetic field on the rails and the interaction of the magnetic field and flowing electrons generates a force field radiating outwards along the rail which carries the projectile under its influence.

In a rail gun very high temperature , very large magnetic fields and high plasma pressure is encountered leading to very high wear and tear (alloying also is a common phenomenon). I think significant research needs to be done to come up with exotic materials which can give significant barrel life. It will take time.

I am not aware of the materials being used since these r not actually publishized nor it is my field.

I believe this is a PR attempt by the Chinese. What they r doing is scaling up the dimensions of the laboratory test article , and will use the test results to support their research into rail guns.

..but that gun has been in development since tho, I knew about it since 2015/16. Before the trials of ddg -1000.

There are some information about it since then on the Chinese internet. Anyway, I'm not fascinated by guns.


I heard a country located in West Africa is developing a plasma powered gun.