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Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 1:12pm On Dec 04, 2023

AntiChristian:
This has been concluded with you before!
And as usual you'll always come back!

And you brilliantly answered the questions to point that the answers does not exist anywhere!
SMH!!

Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 6:48am On Dec 04, 2023

AntiChristian:
The Torah the Jews believe has been corrupted and similarly the New testament; we know the early church fathers did a lot of work in selecting those books to be included and those to be excluded! And we know Rome sure did play a huge part too!

Both Allah and your prophet didn't know this important information you now have about the corruption of the Torah. Aren't you so brilliant?
If the Torah is corrupted
1. When in terms of date was it corrupted?
2. Who corrupted it?
3. Why was it corrupted?
4. What was corrupted in it?
And what does the original Torah look like?
5. How as it corrupted?

Your eminence in wisdom should be able to give us solid evidence of the answers to these questions as you seem to know better than both Allah and your prophet Mohammed

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 6:34am On Dec 04, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
So now you know i can substantiate why the rendering that say:

"I promise you today, you will be with me in Paradise"

Is more accurate shey?

Points that nullified your argument:

*Jesus died that day.
*At death no activity.
*The man is not a Christian nor Born Again.
*Paradise is to be established on earth.

I know you will not agree but the points are sufficient enough for anyone searching for the truth so you can continue hiding under Greek words!

2Cor 12:4:
"How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Stop re-interpreting the Bible according to your flawed doctrines

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 10:21pm On Dec 03, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Guy at death Jesus was completely lifeless just like all other dead humans {Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} until God raised him from the dead {Act 3:15} so there was no way he could go anywhere on that day he died!

Speak to exactly what the Greek said as I did not ask you to preach

Christianity Etc › Re: 8-year Old Fearlessly Preaches The Gospel On The Streets Of London (video) by TenQ: 10:12pm On Dec 03, 2023

AntiChristian:
See the crowd he dey preach to!

Do you know the Bible didn't record almost anything about Jesus from just after birth till he reached 30 years?

Do you know Jesus preached while he was a few days old in the Qur'an and not the Bible?

And a fabrication as usual. Same as king Solomon who died for almost one year and no one discovered it.

Al-Qur'an, the book of Fables

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 7:46pm On Dec 03, 2023

AntiChristian:
Ọgbẹni! My Prophet didn't believe in Deuteronomy or other bogus books of the Bible.

Na Torah we believe in and it is lost!

I no dey argue again!

All I can do is to Laugh at your deliberate self delusion. You want to pretend that you don't know what the Jews called Torah!?

I plead with you not to to enter Hell before you realiztthat you've been conned by satan!

The Truth indeed sets Free when Adopted!

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 5:29pm On Dec 03, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Frame those questions of yours (and many of such from your confused soul).

Make a Portrait of it, hang it around your neck and enter Market

It amazes me that a small me can confound you this much!
LOL!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 5:26pm On Dec 03, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
So the comma was added by translocators it simply means the reader need to use his God's given power of reasoning to get the sense of what Jesus said there.

God's word never promised the evil everlasting life but the good {Psalms 37:9-11, 29} so the thief is not qualified for everlasting life but because he acknowledged Jesus as King that's why Jesus gave him that promise that he (Jesus) will see to it that this man wakes up with other UNRIGHTEOUS ones during resurrection in Paradise there Jesus will see to it that the man learn from Christians how to become a righteous person not that a thief who was never baptized nor anointed with God's Holy Spirit will go to heaven!

I am not speaking about the comma. Check the Greek and tell me what it says not what you want it to say.

Again, why did you swap "today" with "I say"?

Again, find attached the Greek.
This is what mistranslation of the scripture causes you. Read what the Greek says!

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 11:18am On Dec 03, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Was there a comma in the original writing?

Ọmọ it's translators who added chapters, verses and the punctuations.

Remove the comma and read what the Greek says: why did you swap today with I say?

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 7:26am On Dec 03, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
You've edited my post this is the rendering:

“Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”

Jesus made the promise that day but it's not the same day that he will be with that thief in Paradise. If lifetime insurance of $50b is issued to a day old baby and the giver say the child should be given when he is 25 years old surely it's until he attain that age before he could become a billionaire but the assurance has been granted that day.

So Jesus made that promise but the thief will start enjoying the benefits when Paradise begins on planet earth only BORN AGAIN Christians (baptized with water and anointed with God's Holy Spirit}l) are going to heaven {John 3:3-5} that thief never got baptized in water nor anointed with Holy Spirit!

I edited it to read the real translation of the greek

Check it out in the attachment: Why did you swap TODAY with "I SAY"
Say exactly what Jesus said rather than attributing to Him what you want him to say!

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 11:27pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Go and sleep.

Or give your head a wobble.

It is impossible to stand against the Truth as the truth goes no where!
Simple Question:
1. Is it UNTRUE that Jesus in your Quran claimed he created LIFE exactly like Allah claimed he created Adam?
2. Why did Allah make the Messiah such?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 11:26pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
Ọgbẹni! My Prophet didn't believe in Deuteronomy or other bogus books of the Bible.

Na Torah we believe in and it is lost!

I no dey argue again!

And the ignorant uneducated prophet didn't know that the Torah is Genesis to Deuteronomy!

And it take you to correct the error of your prophet. Too bad! (You studied in a university didn't you?)

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 10:23pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Dey catch cruise.

No be today that your Malady start.

Simple Question:
1. Is it UNTRUE that Jesus in your Quran claimed he created LIFE exactly like Allah claimed he created Adam?
2. Why did Allah make the Messiah such?

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Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 10:10pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Dey catch cruise jare.......

Nothing do you.

Sha don't die a Trinitarian....

Na Hellfire straight for you.

Is it UNTRUE that Jesus in your Quran claimed he created LIFE exactly like Allah claimed he created Adam?

If indeed it is true that Allah created Jesus and sent him on the earth as a prophet, he made a dumb colossal mistake UNLESS you can explain WHY the Messiah was given such and so many Attributes not given to humans.

Do you think it makes sense if your greatest prophet Mohammed is an ordinary spiritually ungifted human BUT Jesus (acclaimed by you Muslims to be less than Mohammed) is almost fully devine by your Quran?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 9:59pm On Dec 02, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Where is Paradise?
Ọmọ Jesus didn't go to anywhere that day with the thief this is the correct rendering of what Jesus said:

“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” Luke 23:43

So it was that day Jesus promised the thief not that the guy is going to heaven o!

So, you are saying that Jesus was not speaking he truth!?

Is the statement“Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.” UNTRUE?

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 9:54pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Dumbo, did you not read in that verse the phrase "By Allah's Leave"?

Are you this dumb?

Does it matter?

The Pilot who flies a commercial airline by the permission of the airline holder is still the PILOT of the airplane sir. He is the one who flies you to your destination and not the airline owner>

Jesus in the Quran is the Creator of Life!

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Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 9:21pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Whatever Rock your Boat.

For me, I am No Man's Worshipper.

Like I said, be born again a zillion times as your erring ways dictates, but die not except in the state of Islam.

Allah gave a challenge : the one who can create life

Qur'an 16:20
Those whom they invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created.

Qur'an 22:73
O men! Here is a parable set forth! listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah, ye call, cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition!

Is Allah truthful here or he made a mistake?

As your prophet would claim Allah said, the Messiah is CREATOR

Qur'an 3:49
And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.

As you can see, Jesus the Messiah created not just a fly but a BIRD.

See how you throw your Allah and Mohammed under the bus again.

Did Jesus create LIFE or not?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 9:05pm On Dec 02, 2023

MightySparrow:

In comma!??

Including the good thief on the cross?
He was in comma in paradise!

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 9:02pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
Where is it stated that Allah had covenant with Israel alone or only Israel?

Jargons too much!

Allah never made covenant with anyone and I never stated that.

Unfortunately, you don't read as I gave you Deu 29:1:

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob YHWH made a covenant with the Nation of Israel. It is in the same Book your prophet claimed he believed in.

Do you know any other nation that God made a covenant with?

Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 8:58pm On Dec 02, 2023

Explore2xmore:
I am seeking clarity about this as there are divergent views.

Can you or can't you not explain convincingly?

I have giving you explanation from the Bible, do you want me to give you speculations that is not supported by the scriptures?

If you think that the two witnesses are Moses and Elijah, you should be able to give us convincing scriptures that back it up. As for me, the Bible did not give us the names other than the fact that they are two men, they are witnesses, power of miracles is given to them and they would preach for a number of days before they are killed and they will be resurected from the dead.

Any two men who fulfill ALL these conditions are the witnesses irrespective of whether their name is James or Joseph or Janitor or Junaid.

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 8:50pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Yinmu.

Be Born again as many times as your erring ways dictates, but be sure not to die except as a Muslim.

Before your Messiah, people/Nations worshipped God. After him, the same position holds.

The Almighty God forbid that I go back to my vomit and become like your prophet.

The Messiah is God with US and our Redemption from the curse of evalasting separation from the love and presence of God.

This is why He is sinless
This is why He creates life
This is why He's alive forever more.

Unless God make you born anew as His own, you are simply LOST.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 6:34pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Lol.

Whatever makes you sleep

Call me whenever you are better prepared.

Have a good night rest.

The Messiah still calls you. Don't waste your eternity. All our acts of religion adds NOTHING to God: you can only be saved according to God's own Rule and Method!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 6:31pm On Dec 02, 2023

Explore2xmore:
Are these parts of scripture meaningless then?

This description of the two witnesses bears a striking resemblance to the miracles performed by Elijah in the Old Testament. In 1 Kings 17, Elijah proclaimed that there would be no rain in the land, and in 1 Kings 18, he called down fire from heaven to consume a sacrifice.

The appearance of Elijah alongside Moses at the transfiguration of Jesus is another indicator of Elijah's significance in the end times. In Matthew 17:3-4, it says, "Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, 'Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah.'"

Elijah did not experience physical death but was taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot (2 Kings 2:11) supports the notion that he is destined to return as one of the two witnesses in Revelation. The idea that Elijah did not die but was taken directly to heaven leaves the possibility open for him to return in the future as one of the witnesses.

Although his apparent return as new born John the Baptist or a John the Baptist of kindred spirit adds on some uncertainty.

Did the book of Revelation give the identity of the two witnesses OR you are making a speculation that these could be Moses and Elijah?

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 5:28pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Whatever classifications is the Hadith of, I leave it for those in the Science of Hadiths.

My answer is of no consequence.

You are an unbeliever if you don't believe the hadith fa!

Are you distancing yourself from this hadith?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 5:25pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
So where exactly did I specifically claim that?

Sahih al-Bukhari 7362
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said (to the Muslims). "Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' "

Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:
A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

Does your prophet claim to believe in our scripture?

Let me remind you of what you said:

AntiChristian:
I don't wish to worship the God who makes covenant with only one tribe/race! That's discrimination!

The God I worship is not the God of Israel alone but the God of all that exists!

And you didn't even touch the post.
Did your God say those things or He didn't?

Always abusive and deflecting!

Here is an instance from the book your prophet claim he believes in
Deu 29:1:
"These are the words of the covenant, which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the children of Israel in the land of Moab, beside the covenant which he made with them in Horeb."

Deu 27:9-10:
"And Moses and the priests the Levites spoke to all Israel, saying, Take heed, and listen, O Israel; this day you are become the people of the LORD your God. You shall therefore obey the voice of the LORD your God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command you this day."

Of course your prophet did not read the Torah before claiming he believed in it BUT, you are Learned and better educated than your prophet to reject this.

All you need to do is to show me another nation in the world that God made a covenant with!

I have shown you how you disagreed with your esteemed prophet because you go school

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 5:05pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
I know you have a problem. How big it is, only The Heavens knows.

Jesus was accused of being a Magician and that he uses the Power of Beelzebub to heal and do wonders by his ENEMIES.

Do you believe them? I know you don't.

So, why would you want me to believe the Words of Abu Lahab wife concerning the Prophet in that Hadith you quoted?

You see how humongous your problem is?

You didn't answer my question as I did not yet ask you if the allegation is true or false.
I asked if the hadith is Daif or Maudu!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Clarification Be Made On The Position Of Christianity On Reincarnation? by TenQ: 5:02pm On Dec 02, 2023

Explore2xmore:
Is Elijah of the two spoken in Revelations?

There is no scripture to assert or prove that one of the two men spoken of in Rev 11:1-14. They were simply referred to as Witnessess. Whatever anyone says about the two men other than this are speculations as the Bible gives no names.

Note:
Not withstanding, as Christians, we believe in miracles from God as a suspension of the norm in specific instances such that God reserves the right to resurrect anyone or even cause a person to be reincarnated. However, this would be a miracle of God and stands unchallenged by us as Christians.

Foreign Affairs › Re: IDF Soldier Escapes Death By Miracle by TenQ: 2:13pm On Dec 02, 2023

Lukuluku69:
Is this All?

is this hadith Daif or Maudu?

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 2:12pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
As you wise pass Jesus Emmanuel!

I have never claimed anything my Lord and God did not claim as you who throw both Allah and Mohammed under the bus to defend Islam

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 2:11pm On Dec 02, 2023

sonmvayina:
What do you have to say about the issue that the OP raised...

Looks like you don't even know anything after all....

Say something intelligent..if not just keep quiet and learn...

I have responded to him, read if you care!

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 12:55pm On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
Capping Nonsense as usual!

I doff my hat for you na!
Wiser than his prophet!

Christianity Etc › Re: Punishment for not following YHWH in the Old Testament by TenQ: 11:59am On Dec 02, 2023

AntiChristian:
I don't wish to worship the God who makes covenant with only one tribe/race! That's discrimination!

The God I worship is not the God of Israel alone but the God of all that exists!

And you didn't even touch the post.
Did your God say those things or He didn't?

Always abusive and deflecting!

You seem to be more knowledgeable than
both your prophet and Allah for they accept the book wherein it is stated that God chose Israel so that through Israel as a descendant of Abraham the whole earth shall be blessed.

I congratulate you on your achievement in at least being more knowledgeable that the ones you worship

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