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wis3:
Firstly, I don't even know who or what's Yasir Qudais. Secondly. There is only one Qur'an which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. The message ,recitations, the contents is forever unchanging. It is read/recited in thesame way everywhere in the world. Not where you have different people using different versions of thesame book with different meanings. I'm having that funny feeling,, it's like I should make my own copy of the Bible what do you think?

wis3:
I'd call you bluff but not until you show where there exists these 32 different Qurans.

wis3:
32 ko 470 ni,, there is only one Holy Qur'an. Stick to whatever bullshit you read online

wis3:
There is no room for error in Islam that's why there is only one Qur'an. It's really that simple.

bobgentle:
our eyes are opened already my brother " he who laughs last laughs best " we are yet to learn in this country cos some tribes in this nation are expert in betraying their fellow southern brothers . The Fulani Oligarchy as you rightfully stated understands this and capitalises on it even the the Judas among the South's understands this but will still be foolish to everly be used as a channel to sell out his brother . So be it if GEJ is returned back to complete his 4yrs that was cut short through hate , conspiracy and propaganda and thanks to the benefactor who now understands the difference among liars and the Good man.

haekymbahd:
There are no different version of Quran, Quran was revealed orally the disciple's of the prophet memorised them and wrote them on materials such as bones as there was no book.

When the number of prophet disciples were diminishing was when they decided to gather all the materials and also from their memory wrote down what they learnt.

What you call version are only accents or ways of reciting the Quran which were later documented. As uthman himself sent Quran to several province along side with reciters of the Quran..

It doesn't in anyway change the meaning or context with which the Quran was written?

The qirāʾāt that Muslims recite today have been transmitted through generations after generations of reciters with uninterrupted chains of transmission tracing back to the Prophet ﷺ, containing within them a mixture of the variation permitted according to the seven aḥruf.

All of the accepted qirāʾāt follow three basic rules:
1. Conformity to the consonantal skeleton of the ʿUthmānic muṣḥaf.

2. Consistency with Arabic grammar.

3. Authentic chain of transmission.

Those qirāʾāt that fall short of these conditions are shādhdh (anomalous/irregular).


Obviously if a Yoruba and Hausa man recite English there will be slight variation in there accent some times their accent may change the meaning or context of words/sentence.

That's why for any Qiraat to be accepted it has to conform with the 3 rules above otherwise it isn't authentic...

PrinceOfLagos:
GEJ 1 term will be far better than Tinubu 2 terms

Yes

bobgentle:
our eyes are opened already my brother " he who laughs last laughs best " we are yet to learn in this country cos some tribes in this nation are expert in betraying their fellow southern brothers . The Fulani Oligarchy as you rightfully stated understands this and capitalises on it even the the Judas among the South's understands this but will still be foolish to everly be used as a channel to sell out his brother . So be it if GEJ is returned back to complete his 4yrs that was cut short through hate , conspiracy and propaganda and thanks to the benefactor who now understands the difference among liars and the Good man.

haekymbahd:
This is a brief preface of the RSV bible you go and get one and read the remaining.

This is what the RSV had to say about KJV version of the bible


Preface to the Revised Standard Version
(2nd ed., 1971)

The Revised Standard Version of the Bible is an authorized revision of the American Standard Version, published in 1901, which was a revision of the King James Version, published in 1611.

The first English version of the Scriptures made by direct translation from the original Hebrew and Greek, and the first to be printed, was the work of William Tyndale. He met bitter opposition. He was accused of willfully perverting the meaning of the Scriptures, and his New Testaments were ordered to be burned as “untrue translations.” He was finally betrayed into the hands of his enemies, and in October 1536, was publicly executed and burned at the stake.

Yet Tyndale’s work became the foundation of subsequent English versions, notably those of Coverdale, 1535; Thomas Matthew (probably a pseudonym for John Rogers), 1537; the Great Bible, 1539; the Geneva Bible, 1560; and the Bishops’ Bible, 1568. In 1582, a translation of the New Testament, made from the Latin Vulgate by Roman Catholic scholars, was published at Rheims.

The translators who made the King James Version took into account all of these preceding versions; and comparison shows that it owes something to each of them. It kept felicitous phrases and apt expressions, from whatever source, which had stood the test of public usage. It owed most, especially in the New Testament, to Tyndale.

The King James Version had to compete with the Geneva Bible in popular use; but in the end it prevailed, and for more than two and a half centuries no other authorized translation of the Bible into English was made. The King James Version became the “Authorized Version” of the English-speaking peoples.

The King James Version has with good reason been termed “the noblest monument of English prose.” Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for “its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression ... the music of it cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.” It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. We owe to it an incalculable debt.

Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870...

http://www.bible-researcher.com/rsvpreface.html

You can get an RSV bible and read the remaining yourself. This is exactly what Muslims are trying to avoid

PrinceOfLagos:
Buhari and his cabals are strongly behind Ebele goodluck azikiwe Jonathan so I don't see him losing to Tinubu that no one truly loves except his money

Jonathan is the man

bicoloratrite9:
Asiwaju Tinubu will be the president no matter what.

stainedanisus1:
Asiwaju makers of men , on your mandate we stand. These hate filled souls have made it a duty to slander his image but the man keep showing them why he is the Lion of Bourdillon

haekymbahd:
As a trinitarian can you use the NWT version of the bible or not tell us the reason isn't it the same bible with KJV and which is the original version and fake between the 2 (KJV and NWT)...

haekymbahd:
Same way we have different English dialect.

In USA alone we have this different dialects of English [ Western American English, North Central American English, Northern American English, Midland American English, Southern American English, New York City American English and Northern New England American English.]


what if we analyze different English language spoken in each part of the world.



The Quran was only revealed to muhammad in 7 Arabic dialect which are all accepted which means there are still other Arabic dialects but only the 7 are accepted and those will be regarded as translation even though it is arabic.

haekymbahd:
Muslims do recite Quran in their 5 daily prayer if christians also recite bible verses in prayer which version will you recite KJV or NWT...



Which is original and which is fake?

haekymbahd:
This must be your opinion because no where in the Quran did Allah make such claim...

Most muslims pray in their local dialect but recite the Quran in Arabic..

wis3:
It's what we have in
today Christianity? With several versions of the Bible, same book, different meanings? And you can't even begin to talk about it because it because it becomes an argument

wis3:
Because unlike other beliefs. You can't alter or change anything about the religion hence it creates room for errors where in some faiths we have so many versions of their holy books all contradicting each other.

Prosper123:
I have been thinking. Is there any place in the Koran that God spoke to Muhammad? I know that Angels spoke to him. But other Prophets, even in the Bible had God speak to them.

Somebody should help me with this answer

wis3:
your opinion. Peace

haekymbahd:
This is false, there are translated versions in every language and in Arabic school you learn both the Arabic and it's translation in each individuals language..

Or haven't you read some portion of the Quran before did you learn Arabic...

haekymbahd:
This must be your opinion because no where in the Quran did Allah make such claim...

Most muslims pray in their local dialect but recite the Quran in Arabic..

wis3:
Having it written in too many languages will only bring in more contradictions, with every version of each language claiming to be better than the other, or a case where certain words would be substituted for the other which a certain group would not agree with, you could even end up having several versions under the same language but in the end, they contradict each other.

muykem:
I want to ask our Muslims brother/sister this question. Why 5 times prayers can't be translated to other languages to make more easy for everybody. I believe that God doesn't discriminate against any language.

blazhykowskyi:
Only a dead brain like you would believe Jonathan could be APC presidential flag bearer. Who raised a dunce like you?

The question to you is:
What do you think will be Jagaban's next best move IF Jonathan becomes consensus candidate for APC?

Zandena:
Now you know the difference between activist, politician and blogger!
El-Rufai don do you big shege!�

TallerKola:
Asiwaju , God bless you. No matter how bitter the enemies are, you will eventually triumph over them even if they reach a million soul. The brain behind Eko Atlantic, an investment destination that will be the envy of Africa when completed. An area holding the biggest USA embassy in the world. Why will I not like this man

Makers49:
Tinubu has been handpicking the governors in Lagos but he don't want buhari to pick his consensus candidate,this man is not okay

bicoloratrite9:
Bola Ahmed Tinubu slayer of Meth cannibals. He is the governor with the best cabinet in his era and we are very sure that having a man like this as president means we will have capable hands at the helm of affairs, a win-win for Nigeria

paracolaxnear1:
Asiwaju Tinubu . This man is just everywhere you go. These hate filled souls have made it a duty to slander his image but the man keep showing them why he is the Lion of Bourdillon

helinues:


Banky wey be say na only when election is around the corner he dey remember the masses. Even when he was still living at Ogudu GRA people didn't feel his impacts.

Serves him right. He should go and revive his music career which is in comatose

InsideLife2022:
I have been an active member on this forum for the past eight years. I just created this account to bring this issue to limelight. Good evening gentlemen and ladies. I got married in late 2020. God being merciful, we are blessed with a baby of 5 months. My wife has been giving me attitudes of recent. I have tried to find out what the problem has been, she is not saying anything tangible. I am being confused and depressed. I have been begging her to come back to join me after delivery. She keeps traumazing me emotionally. She just told me our marriage is over. She couldn't say what the problem is.

She has not been taking care of the baby. She was medically advised to stop breastfeeding our baby permanently. Is not that she breastfeeds our baby. My mother in-law and sisters in-law have been complaining about her lack of motherly treats.

They told me she doesn't even know how to take care of the baby. They cannot allow my child to be in her custody because she can't take care of the baby as a mother. She has fought her mother for asking her to leave her house to join her husband. Every member of her family has been asking her what the problem is. She keeps telling them to come and marry me that it's over between us.

I haven't told any of my family members or my friends of what is going on in my marriage. I am a kind of person that do not like involving a third party in my new marriage of lest than two years.

Her family has never supported her actions. Her mom and her siblings have been asking me to come take my wife and baby. But, my wife is not ready to join me. It has been a serious issues in her family house each time they push her to go meet her husband.

Her family has ask me to come with some soldiers or the police to come carry my baby and leave her since she claims she is no longer interested in any marriage. I have been trying my best to make sure my wife never lacked anything during her pregnancy and even after delivery.

My in-laws have been very supportive and good to me. I know they have never and will not support her for her wrong actions and behaviors. My challenge is, my baby is just 5 months and I don't want to take the baby to my parents because of the questions people around will be asking. I don't want to be seen as someone who is separated from his wife. I hate divorce with passion. My wife does not have any concrete reason why she decides to stay off our marriage.

Her family is fully in support of my next actions of going to take my baby. Now, the question is this; is it advisable to keep the baby with me while I employ a nanny to raise the baby with me?

Please and please I need mature and sensible advise.

Cc: RoyalRoy

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