₦airaland Forum

suffering:
I did not read because the situation will turn out a silly highly probable event which superstition would have no cause to become a factor. If God is so almighty, why does world peace elude his box of gifts to man?

Nosayer:
So the gospel artistes that were invited to sing at Deeper Life programs are going to hell fire and Pastor Kumuyi is now one of their accomplice?

Can we differentiate what it means to have true knowledge of Christ apart from being inclined towards religion?

Mr Righteousness, I'm disappointed in you sir. You actually belong to those who think righteousness is only by the garment you wear, the way you walk etc (salvation by work).

As long as the pastor is not telling people to go against the principles of Jesus, the rest of the traditions can rot away as they should.

Ecne:
We are already on this in Rivers State,

KingMack:
Yoruba men are the weakest men you can find in this planet...she fit try this wan with Benin boy

Ahmed4002:
Get your fact right.
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Most people our Africans would pay for this test in Europe without questioning it, but when it comes to our countries just to protect us from this virus, we shout and calls all sort of names, while most folks come in with fake test results.

Tpharell:
Similar reasons why Nigerians are still groping in darkness despite the billions sunk into power. Listen, government's incompetence, inefficiency, corruption, maladministration and all of that should not be a guise to begin to look to criminality for solutions on local crude refining

Scamburster:
You will ask question and get tired, you are dealing with unfortunate people in this corn tree.

Tpharell:
Nigeria can do it because we have bright and competent minds to harness both home and abroad, not because of some oil thieves running a criminal enterprise.

Tpharell:
There is nothing to learn from people breaking oil pipelines to steal crude oil and cook in the bush other than strategies to end the criminal enterprise

Tpharell:
Thank you!

Hisbah21:
done

Hisbah21:
alright

Tpharell:
If by this you mean the kpofire people stealing crude and cooking in the bushes then you are wrong

muzeze77:
Islam has been more peaceful than Christianity, no Islam country dropped nuclear bomb, Muslims did not start world war 1 or 2 . The folks that kidnapped many Africans as slaves and moved them to America are not Muslims ,Most of the ebos transporting drugs are not Muslims , when a white man shoots up a school you don't hear them describe him as Christian man

Hisbah21:
ofcourse

johnmartus:
You better go to your village if city is unbearable for you to live. Nigeria is only country in the world that selling fuel in cheaper rate... If that price will stop the people that milicking Nigeria in the name of subsidy so be it.

johnmartus:
You better go to your village if city is unbearable for you to live. Nigeria is only country in the world that selling fuel in cheaper rate... If that price will stop the people that milicking Nigeria in the name of subsidy so be it.

Hisbah21:
you should send me a mail and i will elaborate alots of things

amrichy:
There are very many of them, but unfortunately I don't want to waste my time finding them out.
But here is one of them: Exodus 22:20
" Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed"
Now imagine if Muslims are also commanded to destroy any man that worship any god other than Allah!
I'm sure you can see how such law/commandment can cause people to commit acts that can be tagged "terrorism".
The good thing is that christians are good at choosing the "sensible" parts of the scriptures to obey . They know that a good God cannot really be serious about some of the things he commands them to do

Hisbah21:
funny before any of the above you said will be taken into consideration,there are alot to be meet. Quran and hadith interprete itself. so any verse that said something there is actually another verse that explain it or moderate the meaning.

Hisbah21:
1. any where that Allah said kill the unbelievers,before the verse or after he will explain those he meant. Usually those that kill muslims before

Hisbah21:
2. Yes in an islamic state any unbeliever must pay tax. an if he pay the tax he will have islamic protection,and anyone that dare touch him will face the wrath of Islam

Hisbah21:
3. yes holy wars for who ever invaded islamic land. But there is no place Islam permit muslims to invade and kill people

Hisbah21:
4. Martyre in islam is not just someone that was killed in a holy war. they are many like a pregnant woman,stomachache, drown in the river,killed protecting his family or wealth..they are many

Hisbah21:
what you people didnt understand,Islam is contrary to what they are doing. they misinterprete the verses and most of them are not educated. they are extremist.. Prophet Muhammad Pbuh has a neighbour which is a Jew.

if a christain did something wrong, i usually dnt associate it with christianity,i knw christianity didnt teach that.

pls you people should be doing similar justice to Islam

Gadafii:
When a Christian attacks schools, parks and kill people, innocent people.. the American society make excuses for him, blame his mental disorder or what ever fancy name they call it.
The go ahead to release his health records, how he has been battling with mental illness when he was barely 2 years old bla bla bla...

When he is a Muslim, he is a terrorist, no less no more

Mahsums:
1 churches preach the doctrine of trinity which logically does not qualify as monotheism because God is inseparable though you still refer to it as monotheism but clearly all the entities exist independently as God. After all my question was about previous prophets not churches which you haven't yet answered

Mahsums:
2. You cant disprove quran 5:116 because catholics worship many.

Mahsums:
3 Title?U must be kidding. You guys take jesus as son of God and God(and worship him also)its not just a title don't deny the obvious man

Mahsums:
4 no one created God(the father as u call him) but he created both Jesus and the holy spirit. So whatever is created is not god and is not worthy of worship

Mahsums:
5 Don't forget to answer my question about Adam the the prophets before jesus. In fact its the question i would like you to attend to first.

Mahsums:
The Quran didn't mention marry as an entity of the trinity. It just mentioned that there are people worship marry, and a Christian friend confirmed to me that catholics worship marry.
The trinity is know is

Mahsums:
1 the Father
2 the son(Jesus,I assume he was the one you referred to as the word)
3 holy spirit/ghost
Each entity being independent as God. The father is not the son, the son is not the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the Father. But you still say 1+1+1=1 not 3.not even the pope could explain that. I've read about someone who left Christian because he had many question especially about the trinity and the reply he gets was always "have faith".

Mahsums:
Please answer my questions on Adam and why all prophets before Jesus preached absolute oneness of God and none preached/hinted that God had a son/trinity.

budaatum:
So? Does one news about Nigerians demonize Nigerians, like your "tiny news" about Fulanis demonizes Fulani? TenQ! Are you guessing buda reasons like you do?

I so wish we resolve this. Then perhaps we might consider the effect demonizing has on ones perception.

P.s. And know I appreciate your time and effort.

Mahsums:
On the trinity
"
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." Quran 4:171
People of the scripture/book is a term in islam which refers to jews/Christians

"Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment." Quran 5:73

More on Jesus

"They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers." Quran 5:72
"The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded." Quran 5:75
On crucifixion
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and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him."
Rather, Allah raised him up to Himself. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise. Quran 4:157-158

More

"They say, " Allah has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, to Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are devoutly obedient to Him,"
"˹He is˺ the Originator of the heavens and the earth! When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, “Be!” And it is!" Quran 2:116-117

"It is not for Allah to take a son! Glory be to Him. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, “Be!” And it is!"
"˹Jesus also declared,˺ “Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.” Quran 19:35-36
Conversation between God and Jesus on the day of judgment is covered in Quran 5:109-120 but let me drop verse 116 for you
"And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen." Quran 5:116.

Birth of Jesus is discussed in chapter 19 of the quran named after Mary the mother of jesus
Jews rejected Jesus the way Christians rejected Muhammad while Muslims accepted him as a mighty messenger of God and the MESSIAH. We also believe in his second coming(it was discussed in last Friday's thread)
If Jesus who had a mother was son of God then what about Adam who had neither Father nor mother?
If jesus was indeed son of God how comes none of the prophets/messengers from Adam Noah Abraham moses ETC down to Muhammad the last messenger preached/hinted about God having a son or the entire trinity, all of them preached the oneness of God?
Note: believing in Jesus is an article of faith in Islam,which means whoever(Muslim) rejects Jesus, its a one way ticket to hell no two ways about it

budaatum:
I do not guess. I'm not the sort who guesses up tantamounts in their heads and believe it is the truth then allow it to prejudice what they think or feel.

I see no reason to think that news demonizes Nigerians nor do I feel it does.

budaatum:
But you are demonizing Fulanis! You claim "evidence" and "facts" when you mean 'hearsay', and you insist the bandits are Fulani despite no real evidence to prove they are.

Nigeria does not adequately investigate these things, and when one local fool yells Fulani, everyone yells Fulani.

If I were so stupid, poor Fulani Monday!

jesusjnr2020:
An Armed Robbery Experience I Had Moments After A Holy Ghost Church Service

It happened moments after i just returned from a church program, sometime in late 2003. It was most likely carried out by cultists, since it took place in a university campus hostel.

There were six of us (all guys) inside the room. Four of us, choir members, yet in high spirits having just returned from a Holy Ghost power-packed, Spirit-filled service on campus at about 10pm.

We were still trying to absorb everything that had transpired during the powerful service, while also getting set for bed, when out of nowhere, there came in the three guys with gun(s) and machete(s) into the room and one of them switched off the light, while using touch light to be flashing light on our faces carrying out the robbery.

But it was a strange kind of robbery, because after they were through, they had robbed every one inside the room, except me.

And it wasn't as though it was a mistake or that they had forgotten to do so or were in a hurry, it seemed deliberate, because after asking everyone of us to lie down, they had stood us up one by one to rob us, from the first person to the fifth person.

But when it got to my turn, being the sixth and final person, after the guy came to me, and flashed the touch on my face, since it was dark, instead of telling me to stand up and go to show him my things as he had done to the other five persons before me, he just stood up and started walking sheepishly back to where his guys were to my amazement. It was as though he had seen something strange or an angel.

Moreover while yet lying down, i overheard him being asked by one of his guys, who I suppose was their leader, "what of that guy"? His response though was not loud, so I couldn't hear what he said was his reason for doing that, but it seemed to suffice to his fellow guys, as it wasn't long afterwards they left the room.

Probably even more puzzling, was the fact that my black traveling bag, was just about the first thing anyone else would spot in the place the robbers had taken most of the things from, such as, cash, a mobile phone, a perfume jar, a pair of shoes etc., which was the wardrobe.

And inside the side pocket of that bag which was the foremost and most exposed part of that bag, there was some considerable amount of cash. Therefore had they just stumbled on it and decided to open it just one of the times they went there with one of the other five persons to show them their stuff, they would have also robbed me of some cash, because that was the closest money or thing in the wardrobe for them to have made away with.

But for some reason they left all the cash intact and no single thing in my bag was missing, while the other things more difficult to access in that wardrobe were being made away with, apart from my other things without my bag there which they also didn't touch.

So this was not just about me not being stood up by them, because they could have also easily robbed me even without needing me to do that.

As I said earlier, four of us there of the six were all choir members of the same church, and we had just returned from a church service together. And while three of us were guests who came from other parts of the country for the annual church program held within the campus premises, the other one was a student of that school who happened to be our host.

But despite that, when the robbery took place, I was the only one of the four who was separated and treated differently from the rest by the armed robbers.

It was really shocking to say the least, but it wasn't completely surprising to me because it was obvious to me why that was.

Despite that we were all Christians, and some active church members, as those my fellow choir members, i was the only one among them that was really saved and truly of God among them, so that was what was separated me from the rest when it mattered.

God bless.