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Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 9:18am On Oct 19, 2021
Workch:
Nope, he’s the Flying Spaghetti Monster and not the Christian God
That's exactly my point.
When did you stop being an atheist?
Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 9:02am On Oct 19, 2021
Workch:
The uncaused cause is the Flying Spaghetti Monster
No problem.
We know the Creator of the World, the Uncaused First Cause by the Title "God"

WHen did you repent of being an atheist?
Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 7:49am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
The logic is speculation.

And if you speculate, then your opponent has a right to make his own counter speculation too.

So what are the spectators to do with the 2 Opposing Speculations?

You have both confused them and left them hungering for The Truth.

Meanwhile "SPECULATIONS DO NOT PROVE TRUTH"

So you have only laid a ground for confusion and endless debates because of your logical speculation.
Logic is NO speculation:
Logic is following postulates or reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity!

For example:'
Logic says, if A is taller than B and B is taller than C, then A must be taller than C!
Is the example above a speculation?

I have laid down simple verifiable postulates
1. The Universe and ALL Physical things have an origin (approximately 13.8 billion years ago)
2. There exist the "Law of cause and effect": Without a cause there cannot be an effect AND an effect is what initiates a cause
3. An Infinite regress of Cause and Effect is impossible
Conclusion:
Since things exist and obey the law of Cause and Effect, there must therefore exist an "Uncaused First-Cause" of everything (aka God).

To disprove the conclusion, all you have to do is invalidate any of the three postulates
Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 7:22am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
If you have never gone to Cross River State you can never give Truth full report about Calabar Carnival.

You can not even give Truth Full report about your own birth, is it now on things beyond your personal knowledge?

This is the reason why satanists call you church goers unreasonable, illogical and mad.

If you can speculate then they have a right make their own evil speculations too.
I said:
Logically, For there to be anything at all, there must exist an "Uncaused First-Cause" of everything....

Can you logically invalidate the statement above?
Christianity Etc › Re: Una Religion No Rate Woman At All by TenQ: 7:04am On Oct 19, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
So I've read the Bible, and one thing I have noticed is that the Bible rarely speaks highly of women, the way it does with men. Starting from Eve, every time in the Bible that a man and a woman are together and then something goes wrong, it's always the woman's fault.


Women in the Bible are treated as property. Which is not surprising given the time that the Bible was written. It's quite surprising how this book inspired by Chineke grin will be so downright misogynistic.


The Bible actively supported the marrying of rape victims to their rapist, because rape was seen as a property crime. Even in the new testament, women were asked to be mellow and keep quiet in the church when men are speaking. It's not everywhere that the women treats women like second class human beings. But in most parts of the book, it does.
Many self induced blind people do not realize that the Bible is a Chronicle or Report of Gods dealing with a Semitic Tribe called Israel AND the relationship with the rest of the tribes of the Earth!

SInce the bible is a chronicle, it involves a report of culture, history, successes, failures and events that happened mainly around Israel>
Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 6:54am On Oct 19, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:
You can not speak of what you do not know.

It is impossible for you to know what Truly happens in a place you have never been.

So you are speculating.

And if you can speculate, the Satanists and Atheist have a right to also speculate their own evil versions.

Meanwhile speculations are Never Proofs of Truth!

So your presentation is unacceptable.
Logically, For there to be anything at all, there must exist an "Uncaused First-Cause" of everything.

1. The Universe and ALL Physical things have an origin (approximately 13.8 billion years ago)
2. There exist the "Law of cause and effect": Without a cause there cannot be an effect AND an effect is what initiates a cause
3. An Infinite regress of Cause and Effect is impossible

There must therefore exist an "Uncaused First-Cause" of everything.
Even if you REJECT the title "God", for such a Prime Mover, this TRUTH stands
Christianity Etc › Re: Satanists Don't Worship Satan by TenQ: 6:40am On Oct 19, 2021
NaijaSatanlst:
Satanism is a religion started in the 20th century by atheists as a middle finger to mainstream religions. Satanists are just atheists that want to catch cruise and fucck with the minds of Christians/Muslims. Don't just trust my word for it, you can Google it if you want.
We don't believe in Satan/worship him. We don't pray to Satan. We don't sacrifice human beings/animals. We don't endorse violence, neither do we endorse you being a jerk to people around you.
Now, you must be asking, "So if Satanists don't believe in Satan, who does?"

That is an interesting question. People who believe in Satan are called Christians.

Know the difference!!!
There are two kinds of satanists
1. The Religious Satanists:
Those who worship satan as a religious activity
2. The Irreligious Satanists:
Those who don't worship satan (or any spirit whatsoever) but subscribe to the rebellious nature (of satan) against the christian God

Either way, the common denominator is: A Choice and Will to REBEL against "the Supreme Life Giving and Law Giving Spirit" aka God for an ALTERNATIVE god who exalts "the god of self" above EVERY BEING!
Christianity Etc › Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 6:22am On Oct 19, 2021
Workch:
Aside from the many holes in the Bible; a very ridiculous book that reasonable people should equate to Spider-Man comic, the idea that nothing created god is ridiculous.

Going by that logic, if everything has to be created then god must also be created by something and if nothing created god, it’s more logical to worship nothing. Nothing is actually the true creator since he created god.
God had always existed!
Logically, For there to be anything at all, there must exist an "Uncaused First-Cause" of everything.
That "Uncaused First-Cause" is called by the title GOD!
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamophobia by TenQ: 3:05pm On Oct 18, 2021
AntiChristian:
Exactly, this is one of biggest folly around with a biased mind.

1. I have never seen or heard any suicide bomber around Lagos to Ogun despite millions of Muslims which includes many Northern tribes living here.

2. I think my 1 above still prooves Islam is peace in Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, etc and no one forces anyone in those places.

3. No Shariah in those places too and likewise for your 4 and 5.
That is why in Nigeria we rarely speak about Islamophobia!
You are the one who brought it in as a subject.

Unfortunately too, knowing the kind of spirit in you people, its just a matter of time before the violence touches us all.

FYI: BokoHaram is a classic example. Are they not fighting for Allah?
Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking Before & After Photos Of A Man After Giving His Life To Christ by TenQ: 12:43am On Oct 18, 2021
MrBrownJay1:
thats because you automatically assume that someone who enters a church and shout "allelujah" is automatically saved... while i dont. if that is what you believe is needed for anyone to be "saved" then indeed you are the one that needs hope, and it speaks truly about your state of mind. there are many demons in church, many thieves and murderers, many fornicatiors, many wolves etc... and if you need any proof, check the below thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6805830/area-guys-scectrely-video-pastor
But who made you a judge on the sincerity of a sinner coming to Christ?
He was lost but now , he is found.

I rejoice with that.

It seems you prefer the guy to remain as he was!
Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking Before & After Photos Of A Man After Giving His Life To Christ by TenQ: 11:42pm On Oct 17, 2021
MrBrownJay1:
its called having an opinion...if you believe that just because we have different opinion then it means i am depressed then, i am sorry to say that you are the one depressed. thats my opinion, take it or take it!
When your opinion is devoid of hope and wellbeing of others, it speaks a lot about who you truly are

Even, Angels rejoice when a lost soul become saved!
Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking Before & After Photos Of A Man After Giving His Life To Christ by TenQ: 11:24pm On Oct 17, 2021
MrBrownJay1:
are you? do we now have to be god to reply to threads on NL?!?!?!?!? the above is my opinion, you can take it or you can TAKE IT.



when that dude was tasting dikcs and taking dikc up his nyansh, you hypocrites were probably the ones abusing him, now he cut his hair and going to church, you guys are here talking ARRANT NONSENSE. that dude is probably still taking dikc up his nyansh after he leaves church today.




abeg talk for your sheeple self and stop thinking that we are all brainless ignorant follow follow sheeples.



i am a human being with a functioning brain, not afraid to use it and to think for my own self....that certainly doesnt need a religion/god to think for me.

god ko, odd ni!
If you are depressed because a lost soul returned home, too bad!
He is saved, and that's the important thing: how about you?
Christianity Etc › Re: Shocking Before & After Photos Of A Man After Giving His Life To Christ by TenQ: 9:11pm On Oct 17, 2021
MrBrownJay1:
you can put wool on a wolf all you want, it will never turn into a sheep...
No Sir!
Who ever truly become saved by Christ is not a WASHED pig BUT a TRANSFORMED personality
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Caught Red-handed Sleeping With Married Woman On Church Altar (video) by TenQ: 6:52pm On Oct 17, 2021
venabili:
Perhaps he may be guilty of indecent exposure and public disturbance. But that is for a law court to determine. Not the church members. Hypocrisy is not a criminal offence. Battery and assault are.

Not saying he did a good thing though. But good or bad is subjective. The people there might be worse. They just haven't been caught.
He sinned not only against God BUT against the congregation. He is a liar and a pretender: do you think this is what he taught his congregation to do?

He has not committed any offence against the state except if the husband charges him for adultery.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Caught Red-handed Sleeping With Married Woman On Church Altar (video) by TenQ: 4:02pm On Oct 17, 2021
venabili:
Nonsense. Was it non-consensual? This is a violation of their rights. Being a pastor doesnt preclude him from enjoying himself as long as he is not with a minor nor is he raping.
No sir!

This is the highest form of hypocrisy:
1. You claim to speak for God's standard of righteousness (which includes purity), YET you do the exact opposite.
2. You desecrate the altar of God deemed as Holy even to the congregation.

This is a child of satan parading himself as a child of God. QED!!

The pastors act would still have been sinful if he was having sex with his own wife on the altar!
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamophobia by TenQ: 3:56pm On Oct 17, 2021
AntiChristian:
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman wrote:
Medically, consistent intake of Alcohol is harmful to the body but when a Muslim says it, he becomes a fanatic.

"Smokers are liable to die young " is clearly written on cigarette packs but when a Muslim preaches against it, he becomes an extremist.

The Bible calls Jesus servant of God in Matthew 12:18, Acts 3:13 and 26. But when a Muslims calla him a servant of God he becomes an anti-Christ.

The Arabic word ألله Allah is used to refer to the creator in the Arabic Bible (also Hausa Bible) and Arab Christians (also some Hausa Christians) use it but when Muslims call the creator Allah, the creator becomes an idol and moon god ( أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم).

So, when I say 3+3 is not =6 but 5+1=6 so far it is about misunderstanding Islam, this is a very simple explanation.
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman

Benjamin Adebisi replied:
"Islamophobia is an established phenomenon.
You didn't put, when a guy keeps beard, he is a beard gang and hippie but when a Muslim keeps beards, he is Osama Bin Laden and a Terrorist.
Muslims bare persecuted really and that's the fact.
They label Sharia 'Wrong' because it forbids Alcohol sales and Pornography, which are Multibillion industries in the West, so what do you expect?
Simple truth is that you're disturbing their Business.
I am a Christian and I know these."
Lucas Bashir concludes: "...and the refutation of Islamophobes continues..."
Islamophobia isn't any you have listed above.
Islamophobia is:
1. The fear of suicide bomber in the name of allah
2. The fear of taqiyya when muslims say "Islam is peace" or when muslims say "there is no compulsion in religion"
3. The fear of forced sharia implementation on non-muslims when moslems have some political power
4. When rights of non-muslims become non-existent simply because muslims are in charge
5. When violence become normal when it is done against non true muslims

Anyone who is wise will FEAR Islam and the People of Islam!
Health › Re: Help!! Fungi Is Spoiling My Face And Neck by TenQ: 2:50pm On Oct 17, 2021
tycoon3:
Good morning house, I started noticing something on my fore head like eczema I have used creams funbact A and likes still the same, I also used some drugs to flush the system maybe it was dirt in the blood still the same, then I visited the hospital and was told it's a fungi infection that I don't need drugs or injection for it, I was given a tube cream to rub on it morning and night I even bought another one after that got finished still the same, though the doctor said if it's still the same after rubbing the cream that I should visit a dermatologist, I visited a general hospital it was a full day with out result, please doctor in the house help. What do I need to do to get my normal skill back this is irritating.

Doctors in the house help. It's inching and scratching when there is heat
You are treating your skin without dealing with the source of re-infection.
1. Continue with your treatment (Griseofulvin and Anti-Fungi creams)
2. Disinfect your mattress and ALL your clothes with BLEACH at least once a week
3. Add some bleach to your bathing water and take your bath at least twice a day (Morning and Night)

Number 2 is extremely important bro!
Business › Re: One Month After AbokiFX Shutdown, Naira Fails To Rise by TenQ:
AnonPoet:
https://punchng.com/one-month-after-aboki-fx-shutdown-naira-fails-to-rise/
https://punchng.com/one-month-after-aboki-fx-shutdown-naira-fails-to-rise/
A government that hates the truth.
What has AbokiFx got to do with the gross mismanagement of our national assets of good people, their education and physical assets?

Until we become an exporting nation before Naira can be strong but these people think it is by paper and talk!
Celebrities › Re: Falz: They Killed Innocent Souls, No One Has Been Punished, We Won’t Be Silenced by TenQ: 2:51pm On Oct 16, 2021
olayiwola72:
None of the celebrities can talk again la … they don use money close there mouth… doing the end Sars shooting most of them we’re condemning government … all those Yoruba actors will not make heaven… tinubu don use money close there mouth foolish peoples… God bless you Falz
But Falz na Yoruba singer na!
Romance › Re: I Find It Difficult To Approach Girls That Look Posh Or Sophisticated by TenQ: 9:15pm On Oct 15, 2021
Lenny22:
I am a final year student of a popular Federal University. I'm not rich, neither am I broke. Of course, my present financial strength is average. I have a nice physical appearance and I consider myself as good looking.
I don't have the courage to approach girls that look exotic or sophisticated. By this, I'm talking about ladies with nice outfits, dope nails, expensive phones and wear expensive Perfumes. I wouldn't like embarrass myself, I just admire from afar but deep down, I want to date one.

Should you be afraid of makeup paintings?
Health › Re: COVID-19: Vaccination Not Compulsory For Civil Servants - FG by TenQ: 8:44am On Oct 15, 2021
benuejosh:
Covid-19 is Real!
Get vaccinated.
Stay safe for the sake of those around you even if you don't like yourself.
Do not say because you hate Buhari and as such you won't get vaccinated.

COVID-19 IS REAL!


Advice no be curse and e no get shame like craze man.
Taking a high dose of Vitamin C and Vitamin D3 should perform wonders...

Sometimes, I wonder why the medical world prefer to go for an expensive option of vaccination...how many booster doses would one need to be immuned?
Why must one take a vaccination that has not been proven to give a permanent resistance to COVID
Foreign Affairs › Re: 5 Dead, 2 Injured In Norway Bow And Arrow Attack, Suspect Is A Muslim Convert by TenQ: 11:47am On Oct 14, 2021
rajiedreez:
Anti Islam reporting, I've read this news on dailymail.co.uk since yesterday but they didn't report that he was a Muslim at first because they where not sure of his belief. But if he ended up being a Christian it won't be reported that Christian man kill people. Violence has no religion
The question isn't whether the criminal is a christian or muslim or hindu or even atheist by religion, the question is the MOTIVATION.

Islam seems to be the only religion in modern times that kill (consistently) for their God.


The issue of radicalization was to buttress the motive!
Education › Re: "It’s Islamic" – Kwara Cleric Justifies Brutalisation Of Arabic Students by TenQ: 6:15pm On Oct 11, 2021
DoggoneDogg:
By Ishola Oludare
In Islam, it is justified to pretend to love God while in actual fact, it is the people of Allah and not Allah you fear greatly.

This is why when you are above the people of Allah in power and wealth, you can do anything freely.



If you doubt me, ask yourself this question.

Dangote committed fornication (zinna) with an american woman (and a picture of his buttocks was shared online for all to see): please what has the people of Allah eg Hisbah, MURIC etc said about it?
Education › Re: Brutal Flogging Of Madrasa Students In Kwara: Celebrities React (Video) by TenQ: 3:50pm On Oct 10, 2021
naptu2:
This video went viral on Nigerian Twitter yesterday evening and this morning and it has provoked the following reactions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yKPbRf3ywE




https://punchng.com/viral-video-charles-inojie-gbenga-adeyinka-urge-kwara-govt-to-investigate-brutal-flogging-of-madrasa-students/
This is Islam in its pureness!
Properties › Re: Look At The Price Of Cement In 1989 by TenQ: 3:48pm On Oct 10, 2021
jumper524:
Going by the price of cement and inflation rate Toda, then we are going forward.
In 1982 the naira to dollar is #1 to $0.5.
Meaning if 40 bags is #1520, then 1bag is #38 or better still 19dollar.
$19 dollar to naira today is 7800.
In essence cement is actually cheaper today.
No sir.
Inflation is also measured by purchasing power determined by the average income or minimum wage of the populace.
Politics › Re: How Boko Haram Jihadist Snatched 25 Communities From Niger State Govt - FIJ by TenQ: 2:39pm On Oct 10, 2021
HonNL:
Foundation for Investigative Journalism
If you are looking for Islam, look no further.
The same principle Usman dan Fodio took over ALL the Hausa states for himself in the name of Allah!
Christianity Etc › Re: Heaven And Hell Do Not Exist by TenQ: 8:26am On Oct 10, 2021
helinues:
So dark energy are physical?
Is it localized I'm space?
Christianity Etc › Re: Heaven And Hell Do Not Exist by TenQ: 8:21am On Oct 10, 2021
helinues:
If those people who wrote the bible never visited ordinary international air space station not to talk of our moon, how did they know about the spirit, domain?

Should we say in their imagination?
You are so locked in the physical.

Unfortunately, everything physical just somehow formed itself from almost nothing. It is indeed a miracle that a system can organise itself from chaos!
Christianity Etc › Re: Heaven And Hell Do Not Exist by TenQ: 8:11am On Oct 10, 2021
helinues:
And on which planets or which universe is that God located?
A planet is physical
A spirit and their domain aren't.
A spirit realm is NOT localized.

Don't worry, all your answers you will get at death.
Christianity Etc › Re: Heaven And Hell Do Not Exist by TenQ: 8:05am On Oct 10, 2021
helinues:
Religious people have swallowed so many lies written in their holy books. Heaven and Hell are one of those lies.

Where is the location of both heaven and hell? Which of the known planets are habitable?

Even the space that looks empty is not really empty cos the likes of dark energy are doing their magic at the background.

Pls, we are in the 21st century, people should try to know their right from left
Simply your opinion.
God is a spirit and no one ever insinuated that His domain is physical.
You'll surely know the answer after your death.
Politics › Re: Michael Ebonhor: Robbers Plucked Out My Eyes Because I Had No Money by TenQ: 5:41am On Oct 09, 2021
LordReed:
Well then I shall not waste any more of your time. Adios amigo.
Thanks for concurring
Politics › Re: Michael Ebonhor: Robbers Plucked Out My Eyes Because I Had No Money by TenQ: 10:17pm On Oct 08, 2021
LordReed:
I have never seen a math textbook that gives you theorems without giving you problems to solve with the theorems. They do that so you can test for yourself that the theorems hold true, they don't expect you to believe the theorems are true just because it is logical.
My point is that you have not solved every arithmetic problems possible (eg. 24358976453+9763452319), yet you certainly KNOW that you can solve the problem correctly.
You know that you can solve the problem, not through evidence which would have been that you have solved the problem (24358976453+9763452319) before BUT by a simple LOGIC that arithmetic theories are invariant

LordReed:
That is not a statement I made.
Here was what you said
LordReed:
LMFAO! There records of all the wars, famines, epidemics, natural disasters are not physical evidence? Bwahahahaha! So what are written documents? Immaterial spirits? LMFAO!
How is it different from
Well then you'll have to prove that your statement below is correct
The records of all the wars, famines, epidemics, natural disasters are not physical evidence prove that God doesn't exist
LordReed:
The BBT says the universe expanded from a singularity, it doesn't say nothing existed before the BB happened. The singularity could have been existing forever before the BB, we have no way of knowing for now.
A singularity is an abstract concept. There is not a single evidence of anything similar in existence.
And of course, the singularity is NOT the universe.

LordReed:
The bible god saved Israelites from slavery it says in the bible yet in WW2 6million of them were killed, what was he looking at? Why did he not intervene to save them?
And you haven't read that
1. Famine affected Israel several times within their existence at bible times
2. The Israelites went into slavery several times within their existence at bible times from in Assyria, Babylon, Edom, etc
3. Israel had its fair share of civil wars (eg Absalom and David, breaking of Israel into the Northern and Southern kingdom


LordReed:
You asked me how to prove a physical god so blame yourself for the question.
Do these beings without material bodies have any attributes that we can test?
No sir, we have no single instrument with which you can TEST their attributes, any interaction or a person have with hem is usually subjective. My experience cannot help you.


LordReed:
Well sorry (not!) to burst your bubble.
Since you have concluded that man is more akin to a mechanical CLOCK than an Advanced AI robot, then its a waste of time discussing this with you

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