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iwaeda:
https://punchng.com/independence-day-jonathan-urges-nigerians-to-be-optimistic/

FatherOfJesus:
Then how did he become president if majority didn't allow him there

FatherOfJesus:
When will Nigeria youth realize that these protests don't work.
You allowed him into power during the election by your actions and Inactions and now you think you can remove him with protests?

You want to unseat a democratically elected govenrment? That's treasonable felony

You cannot eat your cake and have it

LordReed:
Oga learn how to construct better sentences. You wrote like a kindergarten pupil and are surprised I misinterpreted it. Look at this sentence: "Most people have some form of mild demonization...like a skin disease called Eczema:", anybody reading that sentence would think you are saying eczema is demonic.

triplechoice:
The op is about spirit wife and that was what I responded to before you started dragging me

If you believe demons causes problem for people, I don't.

Well ,your negative thoughts can take on form and wreck havoc on you and those around you. That is what most of you ignorantly regard as demons but they are just thoughtforms and not real.

There are people who are gifted with the special ability to see these thoughtforms as the hover around people. You may have this ability or have met with someone who has, but it doesn't mean what you see is real. It is only thoughts that have taken form.

LordReed:
LMAO! Eczema is now a demonic possession? Bwahahahahaha! Thank Andromeda we have a better understanding of the causes of illnesses and diseases or else we would have been beholden to quacks telling us all manner of tall tales and selling us snake oil cures. Oga we have progressed past this your demon of eczema stories.

triplechoice:
I never wanted to respond again, but just have to .

I already advised you get yourself properly informed about how your mind works so you can understand my position better


Your mind cannot act on any impression that it refuses to accept as truth. I have been repeating this all along.

It is only individuals whose critical faculty skills not fully developed and are cast in the coinage of conspiracy theories that easily swallow the lies of demonic possession

Now , according to you, my current stand is because I have been made not to accept what you consider as truth of demonic possession inspite of the fact I already suggested to your that I use to have such belief in the past but now know better through my own experience. Really don't know what to tell you.

You not following at all. Don't bother much about me be concern with what you're doing. If it is the right thing you're doing only time will tell.

To your last statement ,the reason it is difficult to convince someone who thinks she is having spirit husband is because they accept as real what they see in the dream and also while awake . But those visions are not real or have no basis in reality.

I know how difficult it is to convince such people. I have been there before and came out of it. So I am speaking from experience.

You people lack the proper guidance to do what you're doing. You're destroying minds and think you're helping them through deliverance.

You can't end spirit wife through deliverance. The only way is to increase your awareness so you know the truth and the truth leads to your freedom

Good luck in your casting of demons business

LordReed:
Yes. I have undergone what I tricked myself into calling deliverance. I read a horror novel were the antagonist was possessed by spirits and began to do strange things, I was a kid then and very susceptible so when I was told that reading such novels would cause me to be possessed I began to feel like I was indeed possessed. Of course it was all my imagination to the extent that when I was being prayed for I acted out the possession even when I clearly knew I was acting but I had tricked myself into accepting that this was how it was supposed to happen. LoL gosh when I remember those days I feel like slapping my younger self.

triplechoice:
What do you understand about how minds are preprogrammed. You think it is something that happens only consciously.

If you're not a Christian, and you live amongst Christians your mind can be preprogrammed to start accepting Christianity. It doesn't have to happen consciously by someone preaching to you.

If you have delivered a non Christian, was it a random stranger who did not first agree to deliverance and submitted to you? You still don't get me.

Please let's end this . I am t not rying to force you to accept anything. I am only responding to your comment as they come.

Your experience is the only thing that can convince you. But that would be when you know what to look out for.

You can't know the truth about anything by focusing on one aspect of it.

Goodnight

triplechoice:
I already explained the above when I said the mind will create effect from whatever it accepts as truth.. The human mind is extremely powerful.

The mind functions in two modes, the conscious and the unconscious. The later is responsible for most of your unconscious habits and other things you cannot even fathom..

The day you realise the truth of how your mind truly works is the day you begin to ensure no nonsense enters it and remain.. This the reason I said you're abusing the minds of the people you claim to be delivering.

The people you "deliver " are already preprogrammed to react that way .

And it begins from the impression and believes projected into their minds from people around them.

Once they accept , at the unconscious level, all of this impression coming into their minds they automatically become susceptible to any command from you to make them start misbehaving and acting as if possessded
by demons. That's how it works..

Those who reject or dont accept those impressions coming into their minds will not react . I am sure there are times you must have encountered those who don't respond as you expect no matter what you do

There are valid resources on the net to help you know more. You can search for them.

Or you begin from former deliverance minister near you to ask them questions why they stopped so you can have a balanced perspective on things.

As it is now ,you only know one side of the story and that's what you're holding on to.

Kobojunkie:
How did you figure that it is too late for the father in this case?

BeeBeeOoh:
Mr Gumi says his interaction with the bandits have been easy because he always “go(es) through the door.”



https://gazettengr.com/youll-be-safe-with-bandits-if-you-develop-relationship-with-them-gumi/

Barrister026:
Yes, I love to know the truth, but am still in law school (200 level) what if it turns out complicated.

triplechoice:
I have had my own experience which you don't know , if not ,I won't discuss the matter.

The only reason I am referring you to others, is for you to know I am not the only one .

Go first and understand how your mind works so you understand all I have been saying.

You have not responded to any explanation I have given concerning how your mind can trick you to think you're casting out demons which shows everything I have said is lost on you.

Modified. Everyone believing in something doesn't make it true so your percentages are irrelevant

triplechoice:
Final question,

Have you ever commanded a demon to come out of non Christian who does not believe in the demon possession?

Workch:
No wonder religion doesn’t improve, your are stuck in the past. When we have started talking about electron fractionalization that splits electrons, you are quoting Heisenberg, a world war 2 scientist. You think science is dormant like your brain and won’t grow?

Mumu, I will embarrass your destiny if you try to debate me in science.

triplechoice:
I ask you again, how do you know I have not done more than what you think you're currently doing ?


So you don't know that there former Christians out there who have abandoned the nonsense you're currently doing ?

This is the Internet. Do a search and come back and tell me your findings.

I hope your world don't come crashing down when you read their stories.

The scripture you quoted ,I know is the foundation for your belief.

Permit me to address it now.

The Bible contains , if you don't know , things that people believed in the past which were not true.

For instance, people during the bible times believed in a flat earth and also that the sun moves around to cause night and day.

It was for this reason "scientist" of those times created the story of Joshua to make people accept as fact what they knew about the earth as at that time.

Just like the Joshua example , there was also a time people believed that demons inhabit people and to make this idea find acceptance in the minds of people, the story of Jesus casting out demons was invented.

There lots of instance in the bible which I can reference to make you understand and know more about what I just explained. But the two is enough for now.


Now the question is , what causes what you're doing to appear real to you? (The casting of demons.)

The answer is ,your mind is creating the illusion.

The human mind has the capacity to create effect from whatever it accept as truth. If it is made to accept a lie as truth, it will create effect from it.

When you don't know how the human mind works, what I have been explaining won't make any sense to you. So get yourself informed

I hope one day, you find out the truth yourself and stop abusing the minds of others in the name of delivering them from demons that , sorry to say, only exist in your head and in the heads of those you have infected with the false belief.

Final question,

Have you ever commanded a demon to come out of non Christian who does not believe in the demon possession?

Workch:
See what dogmatism has done to you. Lol

You are stuck in Stone Age

Workch:
Thicker than brick

Still doesn’t get it

Workch:
Religious Illiterate doesn’t even know that electron can be seen and even split into half.

Product of special center

You live in 21century but your brain is stuck in Bronze Age

Workch:
why am I not evidence for the existence of Flying Spaghetti Monster?

triplechoice:
How do you know what I have experienced?

And how does the above scripture explain spirit husband?

You just confirmed what I said before now. Did you take time to read my first response to the op?

It's obvious you did not.

Please, believe all you want . I am not interested in dragging this matter further with you. The day you meet with those who have abandoned what you're currently doing , then you will know the truth and do the same except the fake deliverance is your only source of income.

Workch:
I just asked for evidence for your skydaddy, is there anything wrong in that?

Workch:
Bros if you failed secondary school physics, no one wiill lecture you on how and the technique employed to see electrons here.

The topic here is god doesn’t exist and you have not provided an evidence that he does

Workch:
Religious Illiterate doesn’t even know that electron can be seen and even split into half.

Product of special center

You live in 21century but your brain is stuck in Bronze Age

triplechoice:
I never said spirit beings don't exist. I only said the concept of spirit husband is a lie.

As for your other comments, this is what I have to tell you, make sure you know exactly what your talking about and not just what you read somewhere , watch in movies and from hearsay.


Demons don't possess people. What you think is demon possession is caused by something you're unaware of.

Pentecostal churches are the ones promoting these nonsense. The Catholic church has abandoned such practices of exorcism because they now know better.

If any catholic member , not those in the charismatic movement , approaches a priest who is welll informed, for deliverance, the person would be advise to go for mental evaluation in a psychiatric hospital before anything.

Most people who take this advise never return because they get to know after a session with a mental health practitioner that their problem is not caused by demons but is simply psychological. But some people don't want to be caught visiting a psychiatric hospital and so they run to your Pentecostal churches for deliverance which doesn't stop whatever they are experiencing

I know of some persons who for years have been running from church to church looking for the most powerful man of god to deliver them but without any success.

You can argue all you like but I just hope one day you come a cross a former deliverance minister in some of these Churches to let you know why he or she has abandoned what they were doing before.. Then you will get to know the truth

Workch:
Just tell us your own version of the story. Don’t insult me

Workch:
that still doesn’t mean god exist

Although we can see electrons, you are illiterate. You don’t know stuffs and you won’t ask how.

Workch:
Me?
You guys have like 4000 interpretations to your jargons in that book, a lot of your make that inference that earth is 6,000 years and I’m kicking against that.
Now what’s your own interpretation? Seems like we see new interpretations almost everyday

Workch:
Then if we can’t test it, it doesn’t exist sir. Simple as that

Just like all mythical characters

FutureIsFemale:
Oh! What a relief. Finally a man who uses his brain has been unveiled.

NB: I don't support infidelity.

My concern is the emotional breakdown of the kids and the family at large.

Workch:
Well, thank god I'm not a Christian who always say that.

Workch:
Good, so how are we sure that your own god is the true god?
Why is yours the true one with evidence?