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StarBoard:
Hernandez didn't exactly look like he wanted to play for LvG. In hindsight selling him was a mistake

coogar:
chicharito has now scored 10 goals in all competitions for leverkusen in the last 2 months. if he continues with this form, he's on course to score 35+ goals in the bundesliga......

and yet we have a fat cow who cannot pull his finger out after pocketing the highest salary in england. we sold the wrong striker.....chicharito is painting germany red!

coogar:
so it's now about trial & error?

coogar:
if you make a large class size, the EPL is more competitive than bundesliga. not even raumdeuter can argue that. the funny thing is he actually acknowledged that there was football before the premier league & the bundesliga were both established.

raumdeuter:
Its no ones business whether the league is professional or not. Not calling it professional league does not stop it from being a league

A league is a league whether they called it professional or not and it has teams and produces champions just like every other league.

They were using goalpost, they were using spherical balls, the rules are the same

If they change the EPL tomorrow to "Intergalactic English Supersonic league" would not mean there was no league football in England before 2015

I remember when they changed the Nigerian league to Professional league in the early 90s does that mean there were no league competition in Nigeria prior to that time?

You want to know how and why you are wrong? You said Bayern won 25 leagues did you realize that included league titles won in the Pre Bundesliga era when the league wasnt professional? You see how you shot yourself in the foot

Anyway I wont crucify you because we all make mistakes Back to the issue

In the premier league era Man Utd have won 56% of the titles, In the Bundesliga era, bayern have won less than 50% of the titles

Now tell which is more competitive

raumdeuter:
You are assuming that German league football started in 1963. Germany have won the world cup before 1963 they were playing European cup(E.g Frankfurt played a European cup final in 1960, So if there was no league how were they qualifying for the European cup and grooming players for the world cup)

There has been a league in Germany as far back as 1903 112yrs ago.

The league was restructured in 1963 just like EPL was changed in 1992.

Since restructure Bayern have won slightly less than 50% of the titles

Since restructure of the English league There have been 23 championships and man Utd have won 13 of it (56%)

Now tell me which one is more competitive

raumdeuter:
No difference.

Since the EPL started in 1992

Man utd won 13 times, Chelsea 4, Arsenal 3, City 2 Blackburn 1
Bayern 13 times, Dortmund 5, Bremen 2, Stuttgart 1, Wolfsburg 1 Kaiserslautern 1

Tell me which is more competitive

raumdeuter:
When I watched the EPL in 2001 I predicted man utd would win another 3 to the 3 they just won but it never happened

The only thing that stopped another Man Utd 3 was A 93rd min Aguero goal in 2012

raumdeuter:
a 5yr period is too restrictive and a 10yr period would be a better measure

If I choose between 07-11 a 5yr period where Man Utd won 4 titles Should I conclude based on that?

raumdeuter:
Man Utd has won the league 3 in a row. Was the EPL uncompetitive in those time?

PietroRico:
lol.. And you've irreversibly regressed mentally with age
So 1st spot suddenly is just as important as 3rd and 4th
So you would have us believe that competition for 1st spot which 'coincidentally' goes with the all important trophy is equal to competition for 4th place? Lol

See how you are trying to commonise the fact that one team gets to go home with the title unchallenged

Your mental gymnastics for today is dead on arrival

raumdeuter:
Going by the past 10yrs if the trend continues we can say 3 teams would win EPL and 4 teams would win the Buli

Now tell me which is more competiton

raumdeuter:
Based on recent years 3 out of 20 teams can realistically win the EPL

Based on the same 4 out of 18 teams can realistically win the Buli

Which is more competitive

raumdeuter:
I was addressing the person who included Arsenal in the mix. If you include Arsenal among the winners then you have to include Bremen

raumdeuter:
If you extend it to 11yrs then that would add Werder Bremen to it making Bremen, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Wolfsburg and Bayern 5 teams who have won the league vs 4 in the EPL

2 have made the CL finals

landinfo:
The biggest mystery in UTD waz & still is the sale of Chichi but the stay of Rooney.....a mystery for Discovery channel

FBS:
Funny thing was Jose asked him "sure you wanna take it?" ..."yeah no problem" he said...

F.cking i'd.iot. Should have sold him this summer.

raumdeuter:
You should ask what the EPL teams are competing for when they cant even make top 4 they cant even make CL qualification because its fixed

Which top 4 compete for title? Arsenal sef dey among or which teams dey compete for this title


There is even no hope for 16 teams to make top 4 because of the league lack of competition

unix4real1:
I have been a member of the this great forum since 2007 but along the line i forgot my password and the password of the email address i used to create the account, due to the Group Intimacy going on with Arsenal, i decided to try for the last time to see if i could get it right and say something about the rape going on there, fortunately for me,it worked out eventually. I`m a Man UTD fan and glad to be back here. been here as a guest to read comments all these while finally comes to an end tonight. All my co Man Utd Fans, i hail una. Man UTD for life

raumdeuter:
A league where you have a constant top 4 has already defeated the purpose of competition

If you are in a class and the first 4 position is constant then how can you say its still competitive

At least in Bundesliga only 1 spot out of 18 can be said to be constant. In EPL its 4 out of 20 thats 1/5 of the entire league

Player Focus: Is Rooney Holding Manchester United Back?

There was a moment in the first half of Sunday’s drab Manchester Derby when Wayne Rooney picked up the ball on the left and drove towards the Manchester City penalty area. At the same time, Anthony Martial drifted to the flank, looking to exploit Bacary Sagna’s poor discipline after the right-back was drawn out of position to counter Rooney. In his pomp, the Manchester United would have spotted the run of his teammate early and played him in to put a cross into the box. Instead, though, Rooney delayed his pass and, as such, an opportunity was lost.



Later on as the game thankfully neared its climax - and United resorted to thumping the ball long to Marouane Fellaini to upset the City defence - the powerful Belgian was tasked with bringing others into play, maximising his aerial strength. For that to work, though, he needs a player alongside him to feed off the scraps, which should have been Rooney. However, on this such occasion, the United captain was merely trudging towards the City penalty box, 30 yards from goal.

If any match summed just how far Rooney has fallen this season, Sunday’s derby was arguably it. His WhoScored rating against City (6.18) was his lowest in a league match this season. It was a performance to forget, of that there is no doubt. Rooney mustered just one shot over the 90 minutes, played zero key passes, completed zero successful dribbles and ended the fixture with a pass success rate of just 56.7%, the second worst of all starting outfielders.

Martial’s arrival on deadline day should have provided Rooney with the necessary shot in the arm to up his performances, but instead the latter's form has remained worryingly poor. Even after Martial's superb start to life in Manchester, he has since been moved to the left to accomodate his striking teammate in attack. While this allows Ander Herrera to feature behind the striker, it’s a detriment to United’s attack to allow Rooney to lead the line at present. Of the 478 times the 30-year-old has touched the ball this season, he has done so just 33 times in the opposition penalty area, an incredibly poor return for a striker.

However, no matter how poorly Rooney has performed, Louis van Gaal is reluctant to withdraw the frontman from action. “Sir, I have to talk every week about Rooney. Why? I don’t give an opinion. You have your opinion, write it,” the United boss said in defence of his captain in Sunday's post-match press conference. It's true that Van Gaal has been forced to answer numerous questions about his captain in recent weeks, though the press are justified in their criticism given his poor form. The United boss has perhaps shot himself in the foot a little by handing the England international the armband, which has seemingly made him immune from being hauled off, despite a number of thoroughly underwhelming displays.

His WhoScored rating this term (6.87) is his worst in England’s top tier in the last seven Premier League seasons, yet it wasn’t supposed to be like this for Rooney. With Robin van Persie and Falcao exiting Old Trafford, Rooney was tasked with spearheading the United attack once more, having flirted with a central midfield role last term. It was another chance to reestablish himself as the lead striker, having done so in the 2009/10 and the 2011/12 seasons, netting a combined 53 league goals. However, a return of two league goals from the opening nine games is one that leaves a lot to be desired.

For a player returning to his preferred role, Rooney isn’t doing his utmost to turn his fortunes in front of goal around. An average of 2.1 shots per game is his lowest in the Premier League in the last seven campaigns, while he is struggling to bring others into play, averaging a lowly 1.1 key passes per game, once again his worst return. Furthermore, an average of 39.7 passes ranks bottom for him in England’s top tier as Rooney continues to flounder on the frontline.

Without scoring goals or bringing teammates into play, Rooney offers very little for United at present. His continued selection is hindering Martial and Memphis Depay’s development, with the former shunted out wide and the latter forced to contend with a place on the bench of late, albeit after an underwhelming start. Of course, the positive comes in Herrera’s deployment in a more advanced role, but the logical selection would be to have the Spaniard start behind Martial, not a laborious Rooney struggling for form.

One of United’s better showings of the season, if only after the interval - the 3-1 home win over Liverpool - came without Rooney in the team. The Manchester giants rightly harbour title aspirations and despite drawing at home this weekend, are just two points behind City. However, while Van Gaal has publicly backed Rooney this campaign, privately he must be contemplating whether to persist with his captain or not. Judging by this season’s performances though, surely it’s only a matter of time before the Dutchman’s patience wears out and he elects to drop the striker.

raumdeuter:
How convenient. How come you arent using the strongest and more consistent argument in Bayerns case

Whether they are the strongest or not, The point is that the top 4 is faily constant and is against the competitive you guys always claim

If it was competitive. the top 4 should be changing every season

patrickmuf:
My birthday guys...Drop ya wishes here...GGMU

SIRcumalot:
I agree with you but if Martial plays as a CF do you trust rooney on that LW ?
One of the reason why Sagna couldn't bomb forward na simply because Martial.

SIRcumalot:
Martial take on was that high because he mainly faced Sagna and whichever help defender city throws at him if he played as a CF otamendi and kompany go be like him 2nd skin.
My point is simple.
Martial would've done better than rooney but considering our lack of attacking option martial has to continue playing from that position until young is fit or Memphis shows some promise.