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UniqueGem:
If my retiring manager has a status and integrity as SAF, yes i will.
I'm sure SAF gave the board reasons to hire DM. Moreover, the board didn't accept to hire him at gunpoint. You said SAF went to his house to offer him the job, SAF Also called Wenger to notify him of his plans to retire a year before.
You said DM has failed all his career, i've asked you times without number, "how did he stay a whole 11years at Everton with getting the sack since he's a failure?"

Infact, Man United Owe DM because they are the reason he's without a job presently.

The result for taking such decision was the reason he crashed us from number one to number seven. The board realised their mistake and decided to sack him.

How does him not getting the sack from Everton make him a successful coach? What`s even his resume for him to have deserved to be the Man Utd coach? Show me what he`s won as a coach to have deserved the job. If he`s not a failure, why then was he also sack at Real Sociedad? Was it because Real Sociedad gave him a target to win to win the league which they later saw he couldn`t achieve? I need answers to these questions.

UniqueGem:
Will you allow an under achieving employee head your franchise for 11years? YES or NO

Moyes was a mistake by SAF and that was why he was sacked before the end of a season.

Moyes didn`t go through the right procedure of employing a coach. He was appointed and single handedly given the job by SAF which was a total mistake. If he had gone through the right processes of employing a coach, i`m sure he wouldn`t even attempt to apply not to talk of being given the job. To even think that SAF went to his house to offer him the job is total absurdity.

Now the question is that will you give your top job to a person that your retiring manager introduced to you without him going through interview and other screening processes?

People saying Moyes unlucky is really funny. He`s also unlucky to be sacked at Real Sociedad just a year into18months contract and they couldn`t wait for him to complete the remaining 6months. Or was is that Real Sociedad owners were thinking that he wouldn`t win the league title for them?

He spent eleven years at Everton but couldn`t win them Capital One cup which is the lowest in cup hierarchy in England for that period l. Or is also that Evetton didn`t even want to win any cup in England because they are a mid table team?

If you are saying he was "Unlucky" to have crashed us from Number one to Number seven, i can also say he`s lucky to qualify us out of the group stage to quarter final stage.

Moyes also bought us overpriced Fellaini whom he would`ve bought cheaper not to think of what he`s trying to achieve with his signing. Moyes play didn`t give us any direction.

I`m not saying LVG is the best coach for us now but he`s laying a foundation for us now which a new coach will easily build on in the future. We can see how the same foundation he laid at Bayern is working right now.

Report says Mata angry with LVG and lets his feelings be known.

LVG will not take this team anywhere. I`ll continue to say that he sold players that were not supposed to be sold without adequate replacement and this made the squad to be small.

I mentioned some days ago that some of those players sold could`ve been retained as squad players instead of selling them for peanuts. A lot of rookies being introduced in the most important match of the season shows irresponsibility of the highest order.

In Dec 2009 when we played this same Wolfsburg, we had about 15 players injured which necessitated SAF playing a lot of players out of positions but he was still able to play experienced players and won the match 3 - 1. Someone already posted the team yesterday. The Wolsfburg team even had Dzecko in the team against Carrick and Fletcher as our center backs and Kuzsack as the Keeper.

The team was very large then but now it`s so small that we`re now bringing in rookies to fiill in for injured senior players.

I don`t know what Young has done to LVG to warrant him being benched regularly. Is this not the same Young that made ADM leave? What has gone wrong? I can`t just understand.

I have nothing much to say about his subs because they`re wack as usual. This man should just be paid off at the end of the season and get another manager.

SIRcumalot:
Of course the was a concrete reason,they both sucked arse.
Chica spent most of his time on madrid bench and a decent performance in Portugal doesn't guarantee a starting shirt.
The thing is, you lot are only remembering the good times and none of the bad.
You don't remember how hot and cold nani was or how inept hernadez will look in our current style of play when he has zero space to run into and nobody creating anything for him,
Losing Rafeal is even understandable since he is almost always injured.
We're still in the race.

Chicha will always spend most of his time on Madrid bench because he was on loan as a backup to what they had. He proved his mettle when called upon by scoring 9 goals in 1,358 mins and when he came back he had improved in his team involvement.

How inept will he look when we all saw what he could do when called upon against Newcastle only for the Keeper to save his shot. Also his last match in the UCL qualifier against Brugges where he saw some chances but couldn't convert because of the obvious reason that he wasn't happy cos he knew he was going.

Chicha wasn't given enough chances to prove himself like it was given to RVP and Rooney. LVG sold him for no good reason.

Rafael was always injured. So also were Smalling and Jones. Why haven't they been sold as well? Yes, we knew Nani to be blowing hot and cold but we could've still held on to him as a squad player. Nani on his day can single-handedly win you a match. He sold those players for no good reason and we are suffering it now.

weedtaker:
chicha has done much more in a stronger league, we should get him in january and get rid of rooney asap.

I miss the guy. Already scored 13 goals in 18 appearances. Won the Bundesliga player of the month November last week. Our squad is so thin now. I also miss Nani and Rafael. He should've at least retained these players. This is the time they would've been useful for us.

elampiro:
6 injuries

Shaw
Valencia
Jones
Herrera
Rooney
Rojo

6 starters. Na wao! Hope Fellaini and Mata can bail us out. I am particularly concern about our game in Wolfsburg. What kind of injury does Herrera has sef?

I think Herrera is harmstring.

Injury news.

Rojo suffered a shoulder injury in training on Wednesday and will be out for a number of weeks.

This injury crisis is becoming serious. How are we going to cope as we are already in December?

Report: Man Utd have approached Carlotti in last few days

ollah1:
these doesn't stop him from been a local champion.

He was a brilliant local champs

You now see that your earlier lies have been exposed. Don't come here and be spewing lies. There's no need arguing with you about Local Champion because you don't even know the meaning.

raumdeuter:
Pep Guardiola

You have just said what i had been saying that it is only with Barca team that this can happen time and time again. Pep winning it with Barca doesn't make it special because Enrique has done the same thing from no where.

Are you even following my responses at all? You are making me repeat myself. I've said this several times.

I'm done with this.

raumdeuter:
So if another coach wins the CL with Man Utd in the future we can also say what ferguson did wasnt special because new coach also did it

Barce is an exceptional team. How many rookie coaches have won the UCL in their first season in Champions league as a coach?

cont...

Where's that ollah that said SAF won the league titles because of free penalties referees were dashing his team? Man Utd didn't even win the league in the season when Man Utd topped the table.

raumdeuter:
Why should Pep win it with Bayern, Is he the only one playing? He didnt win with bayern because he met a stronger coach called Ancelotti

What do you want us to say about Enrique?

And what happened last season? He also met a stronger coach in Enrique.

Like i said, what Pep did with Barca wasn't special because rookie Enrique has done it and he's still doing it.

raumdeuter:
Barca had Tito Villanova, they had Tata Martino none of them won with Barcelona So find another talk

I've answered that. What about Enrique? Why not talk about him? Pep was a rookie coach when he won it first time. Why didn't he do the same with Bayern as the defending champion?

ollah1:
Why didn't Tata and Tito win it?

I have answered this question earlier. You like going back and forth.

Where did Tata come from? Tito had only one one season wish was riddled with cancer.

raumdeuter:
oving around means you would have to study another set of players and build your team which someone who stays at one club doesnt need to deal with

This also applies to a coach that stays in one club because he'll have to rebuild his team at least every 5 - 7 years. Teams needs to be rebuilt and it also takes time to rebuild to top level.

raumdeuter:
WHy does Pep winning at Barcelona not make him special

That's because any good or average team would've won UCL with Barca of recent years. Enrique has proven that and he's still proving it. Barca team is an exceptional team.

ollah1:
It has being DEFINED, EXPLAINED, EXPATIATED, DISCUSSED, DESCRIBED, HIGHLIGHTED, LISTED ET AL. What else do you wanna read?

Nothing was defined........... A local champion wouldn't have won any European Cup. That's why you couldn't give any definition for it.

raumdeuter:
1. He moved around multiple clubs

2. He never coached a club as rich as Man utd

3. He never coached a club where he had a free hand that Ferguson had

4. When he won the first one, He immediately left to another club and won another

Moving around wasn`t an excuse for him not to have won it more than two times in 25yrs club coaching career.

Dadehmola:
I think their argument is ; "if the likes of Carlotti, Guardiola etc had managed at a top club for 25 years, they woulda won many more UCL trophies"

Personally, I feel sir Alex coulda done much better - his records aren't too impressive TBH. 2 UCL wins, losing finalists twice & maybe 3 Semi-final appearances in 25 years isn't exactly a record one can boast of.

I`ll only consider Carlotti in that wise. Pep winning it with that Barca doesn`t make him special.

raumdeuter:
You cannot expect someone who coached for 25yrs to win more than one who coached for 40yrs. If he does then its either one is a genius or the other is mediocre

And why didn`t the coach that coached for 25yrs win more than two as well? Your point is only valid if he had won more than two in the same 25 yrs.

raumdeuter:
Then this assertion would lend more credence to the Local champion jab you are trying to avoid from ollah1

Maybe you should define that Local Champion for us since Ollah can`t define it.

raumdeuter:
How many years did Ferguson spend coaching?

See shift. You asked a question and i answered. So why this question?

I`ve told you the years it took him him win UCL is immaterial. Since the inception of Champions league both old and new only Ancelotti have won it more than SAF. We`ll have to wait for others to surpass that before being counted to be superior to him in Europe.

raumdeuter:
Actually Ferguson was given the powers and he was buying

He broke transfer records multiple times. Players like Rooney, Pallister, Stam, Ferdinand, Veron Yorke were all record transfers

Madrid has been changing coaches. if they had just 1 coach like man Utd then they could have won more than 2

I`m still maintaining that he wasn`t given such powers to buy any players that he wanted at any price.

If he had such powers, why then did he sell Ronaldo for over £80mil and bought Valencia as his replacement? Why didn`t he spent the whole money on big players?

All those players you mentioned were once in a while signings. Why didn`t he buy 3 or 4 of such players in a season?

ollah1:
Local champion: Sir Alex Ferguson aka Mr Tomato face

You can`t even define what you are saying.

raumdeuter:
How many of the coaches you know have spent 26yrs coaching not to talk of in 1 club where you are the Lord and master

Hitzfield spent 25yrs, Juup Heynkes spent 34 yrs coaching club careers.

ollah1:
Man u have been the richest club for decades. Your current coach wouldn't coach one top side for 26 years and win just two trophies. Nobody would have heard of him if he wasn't managing an English club side.

He was simply a local Champion

Please, define local champion for me.

raumdeuter:
Ferguson was the coach and manager he determines who he wants to buy and no one stands over him like Perez or Laporte do to Madrid or Barca or even Abrrahamovic in Chelsea

he has powers like Wenger and he delivered 2 CL in over 20yrs

The fact remains that he`s not the owner of the club and he cannot be spending anyhow. If he`s given such powers to buy any player irrespective of the price, then why wasn`t he buying then? There`s no coach that doesn`t like to buy the best players if given such unrestricted powers as you`ve said.

However, money isn`t everything. Why has Madrid not won more than one UCL since i think2002 after spending so much to get the best season in season out?

raumdeuter:
Man Utd under fergie 26yrs

2 trophies, 2 runner up 3 semi final knockouts

That means Ferguson made semi finals and beyond just 7 times in 20yrs coaching the richest team in the world with unrestricted authority

Lol! Unrestricted authority to spend money or what? Was he the owner of the club?There`ll always be a limit to what he can spend. Yes, he has the control of the team but not to spend money anyhow cos the club will always have obligations to meet.