₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Did you bother reading the article? It actually explains a lot of how a DATABASE is not a SOLVE ALL in this case. Data  in a database is as good as the users who enter it, and NO, detecting duplicate data is NOT AS EASY as you think. The article also goes into explaining that stress to you.

I suspect INEC may have to, right after this exercise, get into intensive DATA CLEANING mode, probably till election day itself to get this one done right.

Did you bother to read the INEC rep's response?

Detecting duplicate data is not as difficult as you think. Especially when that check will be done at ward level.

Kobojunkie:
OH BOY!!!   

And only some days ago, I talked on how data integrity is to be questioned.

What the hell is the matter with you? Are you so caught up in your pessimism that you won't even exercise your brains?
The ACN fellow has NO SHRED OF PROOF whatsoever that what he is saying is correct. he has no clear or total picture of what INEC's backend technology is. All the man is saying is : "INEC, you people cannot do it. Oya, if you can detect multiple fingerprints come and give us a public demonstration"

In other words, the Alhaji Lai Mohammed is just TROLLING.

The INEC guy's response is apt. The data will be aggregated at ward level, then at local government level, then at state level. Nobody's gonna do multiple registrations across different states. Hell, most people who will try to do multiple registration will attempt it in different polling units in the same local government. As a result, the verification will typically be done with only a dataset numbering in the tens of thousands. Hardly the 60 million that the ACN dolt is spouting.

deb:
I feel you should think more before you post. ACN has dared INEC to prove them wrong.
I think that is what we should all be clamouring from INEC to do now. Some people need to go to jail for this really

You don't just make wild claims then 'dare' people to prove them wrong.
Oya, i think you're a hermaphrodite. I dare you to post nude pics of yourself to prove me wrong otherwise we all agree you are one.

See how brainless that sounds?

Bishopking:
Now, the Nigerian police have proved once again that they are simply incompetent. A policeman had no RIGHT to slay anybody. If he should shoot at all, was he not trained on how to aim and bring down his TARGET? This act of misfiring and not get the 'target' shows the decay in the police force. It simply means that guns are just given to whever they deem fit. Now, do the police have a Training department? If they do, then, some heads MUST roll. Is there any Commisioner of Police in FCT? If yes, He MUST resign over THIS!!

What manner of id'iot is this? So it would have been okay if only the Taxi driver was shot abi?

Why should the FCT Police commissioner resign? All we need is for the killer cop to be brought to justice. I've never understood this rabid and brainless call for people to resign over everything.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=596352.msg7644340#msg7644340 date=1296547629]I blamed the policeman that killed an innocent woman and, also the taxi driver that disobeyed a simple order.Nigerian banks are devised that law to check the incessant bank robbery attacks and I see no reason why a taxi driver should defile such law knowing fully well that most of the robbers operate with taxis.[/quote]Last i checked, the Windshield and the windows of the Taxi are made of clear glass. And the cop could easily see into the cab. A visibly pregnant woman can never be mistaken for an armed robber, sorry.

The Taxi driver cannot be held accountable for the events that followed. Excessive use of force cannot be justified. if i shoot a kid down from the mango tree in my compound, can i start justifying things by claiming that i had warned the kid before about plucking my mango?

pay no more than 10k for this. 15k if you're santa claus

Lexusgs430:
Life was a lot better when Apple and Blackberry were just fruits !!!! QED

You mean it was simpler when Nokia phones were kings of the smartphone pile. in 2006.

Fast forward to 2011 and anyone buying a Nokia smartphone better be doing it because they can't afford a decent Android phone

There's a reason why Nokia's smartphone marketshare is dropping like a rock. From 40% in Q3 2009 to 38% in Q3 2010 to 31% in Q1 2011. The N8 isn't stemming the tide. People know it's just a middle tier nokia phone with a great camera. Android and iPhone are killing Nokia slowly

lynxnoon:
@ezeuba
pls i would like to get more info on getting n connecting an android cdma to a nigerian cdma network.
pls can u add my yim (lynxnoon) so we can chat?
tnx

Just buy a Droid 2 Global. CDMA + GSM, best of both worlds.

ezeuba:
It's just a pity phone dealers in Nigeria do not really follow trends, else they would have been stocking up on Android phones and eased off on the Nokias and other dying models. I don't think there is one HTC dealer in Nigeria; I stand to be corrected please.

It's a pity you don't know trends. Blackberry and Nokia still remain the major forces in the Nigeria Market today. Android is still in its infancy here.

[quote author=nrd_geek link=topic=595647.msg7640188#msg7640188 date=1296486255]Well, it might be easier for you to believe if you get to know a thing or two about a thing or two.

To quote the OP, he says when Mutallab was subdued, he 'offered no resistance and was docile.' The dude was apparently 'staring into nothing' while his balls were on fire! Now, who in his right mind does that? Add that to the fact that, as it is claimed, the dude got on the flight 'without a passport'; eye witnesses reporting that a man actually stood up and 'videotaped the entire thing, very calmly' and the dude's insistence on defending himself, then you probably might get the tingling sensation of a set up.

Ever heard of Project Monarch? or Project MKUltra? if you have, then you'd probably understand what is called 'mind control' and why Mutallab was 'staring into nothing'.

'Trauma based mind control' is real and has been admitted by US govt. agencies through declassified US govt. documents (just google 'Project Monarch' or 'Project MKultra' , voila! welcome to Alice's rabbit hole.)

When you begin to understand the evils and capabilities of mind control, then you'd probably realise movies like the Bourne Trilogy (Bourne Identity, Bourne Ultimatum and Bourne Supremacy) and 'Shutter Island' are actually depictions of reality.[/quote]Tell me, why exactly did you expect him to have been shrieking or crying or tearing out his hair? Why do you people think there's a cookie-cutter template that every human must fit in? Why is it so far-fetched that the guy was silent?

it is reported that Mutallab spent quite some time in the toilet before returning to his seat. Did they hypnotise him into taking a piss too?

Hmm. I can't recall getting the memo that stated that GEJ held a knife to Mrs. Ojukwu's neck.

By making this kind of statement, are these people aware that they are indirectly calling Mrs. Ojukwu 'insensitive'?

[quote author=call-me link=topic=595645.msg7639429#msg7639429 date=1296479586]@mobinga,
bingo or whatever you call your self
You are an IDOT[/quote]Hmm. What should we use to describe someone who cannot even spell the word 'I.D.I.O.T'?

BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA!!

These conspiracy theorists will never cease to entertain me with their brainless logic.

So unless you're alleging that Anwar Al-Awlaki is an American operative, how do you explain this statement credited to him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab


Al-Awlaki released a tape in March 2010, in which he said, in part:
To the American people ,  nine years after 9/11, nine years of spending, and nine years of beefing up security you are still unsafe even in the holiest and most sacred of days to you, Christmas Day,
Our brother Umar Farouk has succeeded in breaking through the security systems that have cost the U.S. government alone over 40 billion dollars since 9/11

And when you babble about the method of detonating the PETN mixture, remember that Richard Reid, the Al-Qaeda affiliated Shoe Bomber also attempted to detonate his shoe filled with explosives with a fuse and a lighted match.


[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=595647.msg7635924#msg7635924 date=1296424466]Not believable.

Hoax?

If this is true, Americans have gone to another low, just disgusting.

But what's the explanation for the pictures that were presented on Dec 2009?

Is this revelation going to be on CNN air too or are they going to sweep it under the carpet as usual?[/quote]With your tribalist posts and your eagerness to swallow down such crap, you're getting really disappointing these days.

I've been running Kmeaw's CFW for well over a week now. Works wonders with Gaia manager

Kobojunkie:
So you do accept that the buck stops with the leader here. Now, if YOU do not see what the others see, then you probably will not understand why they label him what you claim they do. However it makes sense that the people will blame him(since the buck stops at his desk) for the failures, as well as the successes, of this exercise.

Regardless of the way the information is collected, I believe the goal was not simply to get as many people registered but ensure that the registration was done correctly this time around.

Yes, voters registration is not over yet BUT again, I don't believe the intention was simply to register ALL ELIGIBLE VOTERS. I believe the reason we dumped the data from the last registration was because we did not trust the integrity of the data collected. There have been some signs that the same abnormalities may be present even with this current exercise. So even if we end up with 60 million registered, but it turns out that over 20% of that data is useless do we still consider this a success simply because we electronically registered 60 million people?

Even as an offhand, rough estimate, you should be ashamed of yourself for that 20% figure. I doubt the true figure will be more than 1%. There are only so many Chadian and Niger people you can smuggle across. Duplicate fingerprints can be detected and weeded out.
The electronic data capture method will result in far fewer fake registrations, will weed out mass thumbprinting and will present the Nigerian Government with a database of most Nigerian adults. That's a WIN in my book.

Kobojunkie:
I don't believe the BP issue was simply a case of "if more money had been spent, we would not have had the problem", so I don't see what you are getting at with that. The point I was making with the BP instance was, regardless of who actually signed the deals and worked on the pipes, the buck still stopped at the CEO's office. As it also should in Jega's case.

in the BP case, many safety concerns were brushed aside or downplayed to allow the well to be drilled and completed on time. if you know anything about the oil industry, time = money. The rig alone would have been costing BP hundreds of thousands of dollars daily. Please read up about it.
Also note that BP came under fire as a company. The CEO came under intense fire only when his attitude was deemed to be disrespectful, deceitful and somewhat uncaring. The whole episode could easily have ended with him keeping his job.

fstranger1:
^^^^

The guy already answered you

Jega cannot be everywhere at once.

He is not the CEO and the spill is everywhere, not just at one spot.

And, his employees were not hired by him, he did not train the graduates and they do not operate up to the started he would have wanted, unlike the employees of BP

It is just a very stupidd analogy IMO to compare a political appointee in a very unstable, volatile, rough terrain with the CEO of a multinational operating in s very structured,well controlled environment. Cant you just see how ridiculous it is?

I don't know why they just don't get it. Some people make a career out of being OUTRAGED at everything.
I challenge either of them to tell us how they'd have done much better if they had been in charge.

Even cases of greedy policemen, unruly crowds and laptop theft are being blamed on Jega. The same Jega is the one that is responsible for the siting of the machines in Potiskum, in Obiaruku, in Magodo, in Ohafia. The same Jega that should have personally disbursed transport fare to corpers moving from the corpers lodge in Choba to their polling Units. The same Jega that will personally charge all laptops and inverters prior to roll out. The same Jega that should have personally pored over the list of over 100,000 corpers to ensure that only those that were trained were used.

Then they demand that he resigns. Resign for who, a demigod? When they can nominate one Nigerian who has proven his omniscience and omnipotence, i will agree with them.

The blame may stop at Jega's table, fine. But he has taken good steps to improve, to regain lost ground. Recovery planning is not ubiquitous in Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:
You are the one sounding brainless here. Please again, STOP!!!!

I bet you saw how the BP Oil spill in America was handled. You saw how the CEO, who was not there when it all went down and who did not himself sign off on all the deals, got the blame? You saw that right? Why are you unable to see this in the same way? Are you OK?

I expect REALISTIC criticism here, sorry. If i wanted miracles, i'd have gone for Pastor Chris. One man cannot turn around a stale, creaking behemoth in a few months. He can start the process, certainly.
If YOU were given the role, perhaps there are certain things you may have done differently. But at the end of the day, it still boils down to well over a hundred thousand registration centres, hundreds of thousands of corps members, crazy logistics and the inescapable task of dealing with thousands of corrupt and crooked Nigerians.

I spent 8 hours on the queue yesterday. it took about 5 - 10 minutes per person. The center had one unit that could only accommodate about 100 people daily. hundreds of people got there and hundreds were turned back. Why? because using an old map, the INEC rep for Rivers State had decided that my area was sparsely populated. The reverse is the case.

Jega sits in INEC headquarters, coordinating the whole exercise. He relies on his people with local knowledge of the areas to decide where best to place the machines. Will i now blame Jega for the insufficient number of polling units in my area? NO!

The buck stops with the leader, yes, but to label him as useless and inept for a situation where only a miracle worker could have made a difference is just silly. As far as i am concerned, the exercise started poorly but has since improved up to an acceptable level. Thanks to his insistence on electronic registration, we now have a unique chance to significantly empower our law enforcement agencies with the tools to instantly identify criminals. This is a big deal, lemme tell you.

May i also remind you two that the voters registration is not yet over? With the extension, if all the eligible voters are registered it will be a success. It may have cost us an extra 7 billion naira in the process, but that's an acceptable price to pay. Please remember that if BP had spent some more money than originally projected to drill that well safely, the spill disaster would not have occurred.

That is my position.

mbulela:
Finally registered yesterday after four tries.
unfortunately i doubt it will make a difference.
The level of Jega's ineptitude makes me wonder if he can organise a piss up in a brewery.
The registration process is so messed up that i wonder how he can organise an election in April.

The enthusiasm of the populates is heart wrenching.
men and women are giving up their sources of livelihood for hours, queuing in the sun and verbally abused simply because they want their voices to be heard.
Jega seems oblivious of these and is stumbling around in the dark.
If this election does not count, then Tunisia style might not be very far off.

Jega is not going to be everywhere at once, sorry. i find many of these criticisms to be totally brainless. he is just one man, why can't you people get this through your thick skulls?

This is coming from someone who spent 8 hours on the queue to register yesterday, yet i am realistic and sensible in my criticisms.

PS: Any 'Tunisia-esque' revolution in Nigeria will be swiftly hijacked by fundamentalists. This would be the dream of the likes of Osama bin Laden. We don't want to go down that route, trust me.

blacksta:
The usual of line of the Pro GEJ. fortunately every time you point a finger, four points back at you - The same could be said where were the Authorities when Patience Goodluck was laundering money.

So what you're saying is they are both tainted by corruption abi?
Wasn't Ribadu part of the 'authorities' when the Patience matter came up?

Nuhu Ribadu remains a liar, a hypocrite and a deceiver who did much to aid and abet criminals. That is how it is.

Bawss1:
Currently Sony's performance in the phone market has been anything but impressive and I'd be amazed if they find success with this new phone. Now the NGP, thats where I see them making a hit. Its obviously a response to the 3DS. . . but without any mention of 3D gaming

The aren't doing 3D in the NGP. they made the smart call. you'll sacrifice resolution to get glasses-free 3D.

If only Nintendo had a larger screen size than 3.5 inches. That's so poor. Gaming on the 5 inch OLED screen of the NGP is sure to be glorious!

The games on the Playstation Suite are PSOne classics (android users already have servicable PS 1 emulators)
And Sony's only providing the development suite/platform/tools. Not the games

You need the drifta mobile decoder, it's only on sale in south Africa at the moment.

rebranded:
This Jonathan Govt cant handle this increase in Kidnapping

Ribadu will put fear in all these clowns!. .not on clueless GEJ, using Nigeria to do trial by error

Yes o! We all saw how Ribadu put fear in IBB, OBJ, Bode George, Andy Uba, Tony Anenih.

All you Ribadu drones are just deluded.

asamuel:
Tell Jonathan Goodluck. He has been wasting all our money just to continue as President. That's the effect of inflation. He can control oil price but he can't control onion price.

Why stop there, arsehole. Why not blame Jonathan for Harmattan also?

Bakare warned members of the church, who failed to produce their voter’s card in the church, that they risked being thrown out of the church auditorium.

“I have registered and so are many other people. If you show up in this church after the registration and you cannot produce your card, you will not be allowed to stay in this (church) auditorium; you can stay in the extension,” said the cleric, who said it would be very difficult to vote twice in the coming elections.0

This man is just a big disgrace. Why would a voters card be a condition to enter the church auditorium? Why complain about radical northern clerics mixing Politics with religion when you're doing something similar?

And to think some people here are even in support of this brainless move. smh 

dvd:
what are the features of the 64gb?

This isn't really an intelligent question na. Haba, Ipad specs are fixed. Rather ask him if it's the 3G or Wifi Only model.

'Alleged' witch, please. Just because she claimed she is one doesn't mean she is, it could be mental problems.
smh @ the posters above me.

MYAs2011:
still available, thats slot and this is me, we are both different, so you want me to sell for 55k-huh?, i have given u my last price above.then tell me how much is N900?
thank you

N900? What is this, 2009?
A new N900 is 61k at affordables.
Don't worry, you may find a mugu willing to buy at that price. but more likely you will keep that phone until the market price drops and you're forced to sell it much lower. This is usually the price of greed, mon ami.

MYAs2011:
this comes with the full accessories,slot will not sell with all necessary accessories, thank you, thats the asking price -ok? everyone

Lying swine. SLOT will sell with all the accessories AND a warranty for 80k. Affordables sells it for 75K brand new.

Anyone buying from him at any price higher than 70K has to be a brainless twit.

That is all.

cap28:
Well everyone knows that america really controls the UN so no suprises that they are backing an IMF puppet, China and Russia will fall into line if they know they stand to gain oil concessions if Ouattara is in office.

Don't make me laugh. Is it the same America that has been systematically frustrated by China in the level of sanctions that could be applied to Sudan, Iran and North Korea?
It matters not if the man is an 'IMF puppet' or whatever you say. The people of Cote d'Ivoire chose him to be their leader. That is the only thing that counts.

I hope those pressure groups are happy. Lenovo makes splendid hardware, they'd have done a better job.