₦airaland Forum

SenecaTheYonger:
Why the shape of a penis? I feel this is a subtle insult to women all over the world. It says more about a mission when the people in charge choose to flaunt a giant penis to the world as if some sort of symbolism of male strength. I do agree that this is a misogynistic mission.

I like you already

executive12:
This ignoramus doesn't know that one has to pay tax on cash gift to an individual.

Which part of our constitution says this?

kushe:
Even though I don't agree with sis executive,I disagree with you.
Which prayer are they bringing 10 million for?
Freely give for freely you have received.

You for kukuma say make dem dey enter okada go church.

executive12:
If you "do away with financial misconduct of any kind", you obviously cannot become wealthy in Nigeria.

It's what failed people say to justify their inability to get things done.

Nigeria is a criminal enterprise.

Keep consoling yourself.

It will be interesting to know how much tax the above billionaires you mentioned are paying every year.

Is there any law requiring people to pay taxes on cash gifts?

If you pray for a sick man for example and he gets healed and comes back to reward you with say 10 million naira, would you have to pay taxes on the money

kushe:
I am a Christian who will never make sense of churches thriving in the midst of abject poverty,that is the aberration.

So the church should be poor because of the poverty around it.
Okay.

kushe:
I think it is extemely charitable to leave out pastors names when talking about billionaires.

Why?

What businesses do they run?

The legitimate work of your hands will be blessed when you engage the principles. Pastoring is a job. Why do you expect people to be buying and selling something before making money? What do motivational speakers sell?

Should young people desire to be pastors so they can be rich?

Nobody can choose to be a pastor. You are called into it. That's why there are many failed pastors. You would agree with me that there are more failed preachers than successful ones no?

The wealth attributed to pastors in Nigeria to me is an aberration.

How so?
He died poor that we might be rich is in the bible no?

executive12:
Not possible in Nigeria. Nigeria as a country, is a huge criminal enterprise. If you want to stay upright and follow strict Christian principles in Nigeria, just forget about being wealthy.
You can be a Christian and get wealthy in Nigeria, but you can't be a genuine Christian and get wealthy in Nigeria.

This is a big lie. There are principles guiding wealth and prosperity from the Bible. There is an exactitude to genuine wealth with terms attached. In fact, one of terms is that you do away with financial misconduct of any kind.
Job 22: 23-24

Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Chris, Pastor Ibiyeomie and others know and practice these principles that's why they are so rich. There's a covenant of wealth for interested believers.
Deuteronomy 8:18.

If you have followed the principles why are you not rich

Lies.
Why not mention the branch?

Saveme99:
Dear people of God, Please bear with my long write up.
I thank God for the opportunity to open this thread, for my life, the body of Christ and all Children of God whom he will use to speak to me via this thread!
I am believer for 11 years now, I attend a living Church, a minister in the youth department of the church.
My life is in a standstill or rather in a retrogressive mode financially. I am 37 years, single brother, a graduate, but no employment, no money, no house. I am still living with my elder brother. Any business I lay my hand will crumble, I have never secured a good job since 2013 I left service, I worked as teacher in a private school in Lagos for 5 years but couldn't save any thing. I discovered that once I save up money, a mysterious power will just scatter it one way or the other. At a point I stopped saving.
I resigned from teaching and opted for many business but they all failed, Every night I dream of either when I am still in primary, secondary, university or NYSC. I just wake from one of such dreams where I was doing a menial job I did in 2007 to sponsor my University education.
Brethren, I have fasted, I have prayed, I have gone for deliverance severally. I have done three days dry fasting two times because of this problem.
Though I am giver, I don't receive favour, people in church believe I am a man of God.
I have so much failed in business that I am now afraid of attempting any new business. My elder brother (in whose house I stay, married with two kids) is almost tired of helping me. Currently I have no job, no money, no business yet I faithfully handle the Church finances.
At a point I will become so depressed and frustrated that I will begin to pray for death. If not for offending God and HELL fire, I would have commited suicide long ago.
My case is so messed up that men of God in the Church believe I should be the one praying for people!
God seemed silent in my matter, I am not motivated to fast or pray about my condition again!
I teach seminar in the Church teaching youths how to make money, full of wisdom, ideas, integrity yet financially miserable.
I just woke up from one my miserable dreams, created this new moniker to hide my popular identity on nairaland.
Note, I am already used to all manner of attacks in the dream! Cob-webs follow me everywhere, even sometimes in an open field or in a place where someone has passed before me.
What could be happening to me? I am trusting God to use a Spirit-filled brother/sister to speak to me.
Has any genuine believer passed through this experience before, please share with a brother

That is a clear sign of the spirit of delay that sits upon men's destinies.

Download and Listen to the Mystery of Deliverance one to four by Apostle Joshua Selman.

Also listen to Priesthood by the same person.

Sounds like autism

Not his fault.
Easily could have been you.

Hilarious comments.

greggng:
He is just an attention seeker ...I have been helping people for donkey years , yet I 've not come online to make noise....I am practicing what God says we should do....don't let your left hand see what you 've in your right hand....don't let anyone know what u did for charity ...

So what are you doing now?

Yada yada yada without saying anything.

IamMichael:
Let me show you an example.


- Christians are taught to believe that Satan, demons, angels, Jesus and Yahweh are real from birth.
As the child grows, he's continuosly fed the demon and devil stories, and being told that Satan makes people who worship him rich. The child grows up believing that nonsense. Then one day, he starts thinking money ritual is real, and the rest is history.

Go right go left. Stay one place abeg. You can't coordinate your thoughts properly and you're calling people unintelligent?? We're talking about Christians right?

What If no-one ever told the child that Satan is real?

Then the child will find out some other way.

The Government uses tax payers money to pay for useless religious pilgrimages for people of same faith. Yet, look at how the whole infrastructure of the country is.

The government subsidizes pilgrimage. What is the correlation with underdevelopment. Do they subsidize pilgrimage in North Korea?

Religious institutions are busy teaching people about God's forgiveness, empowering people to behave as they want, maltreat others and do all sorts of nonsense because at the end of the day, all they have to do is ask God for forgiveness, and everything is settled.

You really need to get proper education.
Which institution has said you should treat people anyhow because of forgiveness

Some of this Religious institutions have necessitated the death of thousands because of certain health practices, endangering the life of its followers, causing people to die because their religious beliefs forbids them from getting proper medical care.

Jehovah's Witnesses are a very minute part of the population. How many people do know personally that have died this way?

Religion is the number one cause of division in Nigeria. It is always US V THEM, manifested mostly in Elections. Every day in this country, it's Muslim this, Christian that.
A typical christian will hate a Muslim for no reason, and vice Versa.

Humans war over a lot things. Religion is one of them.

There is hardly anything without a religious undertone in it in Nigeria.

- Merely knowing that the other person is not of the same faith, creates a predisposed hatred. Goodluck getting a job at a place owned by a religious zealot. [quote]Hateful human hate others because of tribe, religion, party affiliation etc. What's new about that?

[quote]What of in school? Almost every private school is converted to christian religious centre.
I mean, religion is taught in schools to children. Children without capacity to know A from B are being bombarded with religious doctrines from childhood, and being robbed of their own freewill. Something that is against the Law of the Land, seeing as The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. But, no! Children are forced to subscribe to the religion, denied the choice to choose.

How would a child be better off if he doesn't subscribe to a religion?

Then you hear absurd comments like "I'm just doing it because of God"...

- I don't even want to talk about terrorism, backbiting, and the rest that the churches and mosques create among its supposed adherents.
Even among the christians, divisions everywhere. Among Muslims, divisions everywhere.

See earlier comment.

- Not to talk of the perpetual ignorance it keeps the people in.

The list is uncountable.

You are the only ignorant person here.
Your comments are all over the place
Jumping from pillar to post.
If your next comment is not coherent, I won't even respond. I don't have that kind of time.

IamMichael:

Did i say 'there is no intelligent Italian christian on Nairaland?
Did i say there is no intelligent Spanish christian on Nairaland?
Has any non-religious person ruled any part of Nigeria since independence?


You are already doing what i said in point no 7 .

So how does thinking affect their immediate environment then?

Ovie56:
chai, Op can lie, Aroma did great on the show, he used his lifeline and he never called to inform his family he was about to win, he called a friend to verify an answer, i guess you want to spice up the gist, but come on, do not lie to us like that, we are not suffering from short attention span and i wasn't that long ago cuz we're not kids here.

I wonder o.
He was not even very sure that the answer was "Peace". It was regarding a Nobel Peace Prize winner.
He just took a chance.

The OP has probably confused it with the British version. Something like that happened there.

IamMichael:
Their un-intelligence bothers me because it is with the same thinking that they operate in their immediate environment.

How does their thinking affect their immediate environment?

I am part of that immediate environment, and a look at the country tells exactly how this un-intelligence is manifesting. It affects me as a citizen, and i have the right to speak against it.

The country is this way because of widespread corruption and bad governance. Not religion.

Nigeria as a country is ruled by people who grew up with this same trait, and the results are obvious for all to see.

Italy is a highly religious nation, so is Spain. Why are they developed?
North Korea is almost as bad, if not worse than Nigeria. There is no religion there. So where's the connection

How come you are so bothered about the views of unintelligent people. Why does their unintelligence give you sleepness nights?

Job 14 vs 7.

For there is hope for a tree, even if it's cut down...

You can keep lamenting, or you can can get up and change your life. Anyone you choose is your choice.

FeliciaOja:
Ever wonder why pastor children turn out to be worse than their pastor parents?

How many pastor children do you know?

Yeye talk.

LordReed:
Yet you said miracles happen without religious acts now you limit it to religious acts. Can you be consistent at all?

Oga swerve abeg.

LordReed:
What terms?

It's for believers to know.

Matthew 13:11 The mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.

[quote author=LordReed post=89882538][/quote]Replication. They can be replicated again and again provided the terms are met.
That's how we know.

LordReed:
No you have not.

Which one? Ask again.

LordReed:
Na you don tire. Simple question you are going back and forth like a pendulum.

I have answered all your questions?

LordReed:
It's you who lacks comprehension. Read the question slowly so it penetrates whatever mental block is disturbing you.

You don tire?

LordReed:
But you just said they can occur without any religious act, you are now going back to religious acts. Can you choose which it is and stick with it?

They can occur without. They MUST occur with as long as the terms are met.

Read slowly if comprehension is hard for you.