₦airaland Forum

Prince111111:
I don't need to argue with you because I can see you don't even know an average salary of just a college teacher in the UK.

I like the direction you are going and it is not an argument.

Please what is the average salary of a college teacher in the UK versus the £9000 the child has to pay as local student school fees every session?
Many don't earn up to £4000 per month on jobs are are way above entry level.

Then compare that percentage to what the average salary of a public servant secondary school teacher in Nigeria versus the N150K being lamented about or the N400k I have even suggested.

Do we arrive at a fair percentage in Nigeria compared to the UK analysis?

Because one thing I know is that £9000 is not a salary many make in the UK even in 2months on very well paying public service jobs.

Many Nigerian civil servants with kids old enough for university education earn more than N200k per month, so why is N150K university session fees a big deal?

membranus:
Impossible. Nevertheless doing well.

What percentage of your monthly salary is that university session school fees as you listed it?

Is the university fee under 300% of your monthly salary that is not an entry level worker salary considering you already have grown up kids?

If the university session fee per child is under 300% of your monthly salary, then they are very affordable and Nigerians need to get used to the fact that University fees is not the same as money spent with the family at Mega Chicken or Sweet Sensations.

Myrepublic:
And you think we the resources we have in this country, education can't be free? Leave the parents and the peanuts dey earn out of this oga dangote. Our leaders remains the problem. Until we hold them accountable,nothing will change. Oga do you know how much our leaders dey loot? Just look at Edu or what they call her days ago. Imagine she wasn't caught. Sounds like you work in a big organization and earn beyond minimum wage.. Find me job oga,make I leave minimum wage increment expectations ,make i be like u..

No education cannot be free.

Resources and GDP is not the same.

We can only work based on revenue and not potential.

Even at minimum wage, UK university education at £9000 per session requires saving up for.

In Nigeria, we always want to use our lunch money to pay for university education.

That nonsense mentality must stop.

Considering that many of the royalties in Europe married their own cousins, even 1st cousin.

It has no business being grouped as incest to begin with.

Myrepublic:
You never groan oga.. When una groan reach,both parents and students should shutdown everywhere. Government should be forced to subsidize fees. The money they were using for fuel subsidy is now being used for their personal needs.. I know something like endsars or worst will soon hit them.. The hardship in the land is too much,they don't feel it,because they do everything with taxpayers money..

There is nothing to groan about.

Those fees are OK considering the earning power of the parents who are lamenting.

University education fees should not be pocket money used by the family for a day out at a picnic.

You plan the savings for your child's education.

How much did those parents pay as session school fees in the private secondary schools that some of those kids attended, but want to pay half a term equivalent as university fees?

My only grouse with the increment is that the already enrolled students should be allowed to complete their education on the financial terms they knew before they enrolled, while the new students pay what is adequate (N400k and beyond) for the quality of education we yearn for in Nigeria.

Prince111111:
the moment you mentioned the pound was when I know you are lacking alot upstairs. So the purchasing power are same??

Do the parents in UK earn £9000 a month yet still pay that amount per session per child?

Yet the parents who earn N300K to N500k per month in Nigeria are complaining of N150k to N250K university fee per session.

Is that not enough purchasing power?

It is about comparison of earning power in each country versus the university fees in that same country. I did not in any way compare Naira to pounds.

Read to understand before lamenting aimlessly.

membranus:
I am one of those groaning parent.

At FUTA, new student:

Acceptance fee: N50,000
School fees: N245,000.

Almost 300% increase in this terrible economy. Students from poor parents are now denied education. What a country!

How much is your monthly salary, if you don't mind to share on this anonymous forum?

Madeu:
Not just saving. Reducing given birth to much children. A working wife and husband with a child can easily afford this fee incremnent. When a low-income couple starts birthing 5 to 8 children, those are the people that will find it difficult to pay.

Those ones are jokers if they think they can be financially struggling and still be having 4 or more kids that require more funds to cater for.

PinkNature:
You really need to ask yourself how much does an average Nigerian make monthly.

How much does the average UK citizen make monthly for the UK government to cap university education for local students at £9250 per session?

Exousiang01:
Nigerians hate the truth.
A university undergraduate wants to pay below N100k which is approximately $100 a semester but they want same quality of education gotten in foreign countries where students pay 1000s of dollars.
They will tell you about their free education.
Are you ready to pay the kind of tax they pay over there to afford them free education?

They will say but we had free education and feeding before.
What was the population of students in school when we had such?
YOU WANT FREE EDUCATION, CAN YOU PAY THE TAX?

I have 24hrs electricity supply where I live, I hardly put on my gen, the average Nigerian wants the same thing, the question is you fit pay the Bill?
Electricity is expensive.
Ask those in the UK how much they pay for light and water bill, ask the how much they pay for gas.
No be to dey make demands.
You fit pay?

Those same people complaining are ready to go pay £16k to £24k per session in the UK.

We like decieving ourselves in Nigeria, yet lament non-stop about the poor quality of education and educational infrastructure.

Many think that the £9000 cap that the UK government has set as university fees for their local student, is 1month salary of a parent over there.

Considering the Nigerian economy and minimum wage, the university tuition should be nothing less than N400k per session for the cheapest schools.

Seunpapa65:
Read what you wrote again ask your self how much is minimum wage any improvement even after this increments or is there any available job after All this suffering na WA for you ooo so it's cheap make the increase am to 400k is alright

You think the £9000 pounds per session that the UK government has capped university education for their local students, is money that is earned as 1 month salary by the UK public servants?

Even those in top shot private establishments with decades of work experience, don't earn £9000 per month.

So that N400k per session is very OK, considering the Nigerian economy and Nigerian minimum wage.

gift2xl:
When Nigerians are ready, they will shutdown this country until they return everything to normal.

What is the normal?

Dilapidated infrastructure with N10k school fees?

Adenugay:
it's well.

Even IJMB program is about to increase their fees too. My advice for parents who are interested is to register their ward before February 1st

The greatest advice to parents is to start saving for their children's university education while they are just starting the secondary school.

Parents pay well for primary and secondary education, but want to pay a pittance for university education.

If the UK we all run to study can charge £9000 per university session for local students, then our public universities should be able to charge nothing less than N400k per session for Nigerian students.


Meanwhile, vocational training centers should be made very affordable too. Like N100k per year.

Sad reality.

Any major increment should not affect those who are already enrolled and undergoing a course of study, only minor increments should be considered in their case.

For those who are just enrolling, apply the necessary increment that will provide them the education and learning environment many are willing to pursue abroad but still cheaper within the context of the Nigerian economy, minimum wage, and available student loan facilities.

Ozommadu:
So why the attack on Peter.

Should you not be forever grateful to Obi for making your tilumbu presidency so easy like you always say

Or are we missing something?

Attacks on Obi has always been as a result of his lies and claims to sainthood, despite his many corrupt schemes when he was Governor.

Moreover, it is also attacks on the many hypocrites who previously affirmed he was a failure as Governor, only to white-wash him because he was the candidate of their tribe.

Ok.

He is still pained that Obi's candidacy in the 2023 presidential election enabled Tinubu to defeat Atiku.

This was something that Gov. Soludo saw well ahead.

Brendaniel:
And you still found way to shift blame away from Tinubu, Tinubu is charge of all government intelligence agencies in Nigeria , what is he doing about it?

Did you read that illegal mining has been going on for many years?

This is not the fault of any President.

How are foreigners entering the country to illegally mine our natural resources, and all their neighbours know this to be happening but no security or intelligence service is aware?

NaijaNaWaa:
Deep down inside Tinubu and Soyinka, they know that Peter Obi won hands down.

That’s not even my concern but Soyinka’s attempt at outdoing MC Oluomo in agbero tactics. This isn’t the man I knew. He ought to be a statesman but it’s his life.

Every man to his conscience, let God judge.

Which state did he win that he was denied in the North?

Where was Obi when Tinubu was winning the NorthWest and NorthCentral?

PaellaPaella:
Only a fuul will read this your constant garbage on Nairaland, you have never make a sensible comment since you join this site not even one day. Spit

Chai!

Not even for one day?

You go be harsh examiner ooo, even a faulty clock is right twice a day.

coolcharm:
Illegal miners in a state capital for 11 years without any apprehension? Top shots in government must be involved.

It is a shame and disgrace

Zonefree:
Blame Tinubu and APC.

When the head is rotten, Intelligence Service cannot function.

So the Intelligence Service just became rotten like the Police too became rotten in 2023?

Did the illegal mining just start in 2023?

And we say we have an Intelligence Service in this country?

They seem to be the most useless organization in Nigeria.

More useless than the Police.

Chai!

Anyone can come in and do anyhow in Nigeria, and all their neighbours would know except the Intelligence services.

Little wonder they cannot use Intelligence to defeat boko haram, IPOB-UGM, and the many terrorist bandits.

What a national shame.

Whoever is handling any of the Intelligence units/services in Ibadan/Oyo State should be fired immediately.

This Abure seem to be a master forger of signatures.

chuose:
This man is a f@@L

Why are you hurt by this truth?

And that interview by Datti, that disgraceful, menacing interview was for me the ultimate signal. Because this was somebody calling for the rubbishing of a structure by which he himself had profited to even become a Governor, I am talking about Peter Obi.

He was what we know as a Judgement Governor, and even before he attended the tribunal, his party, his spokesman in this case Datti, came on television to threaten everyone, to threaten hell if his interpretation or results was not upheld.

This for me was politically amoral, socially amoral. It is playing to a certain script even if they didn't know it, because later I began to express my suspicion that they were part of the script.

lexy2014:
oga, how were Ransome-Kuti and Soyinka appointed by IBB to help placate SW because of June 12?

when were these gentlemen appointed?

this one that you are boasting, hope you know what u are saying?

I shock too.

He even mixed up Dr Beko with Prof. Olikoye.

Racoon:
Hehehe! Soyinka, Prof Beko-Ransome Kuti etc were all appointed into Ibrahim Babangida government to help placate the SW and douse the political tension that followed the annulment of the June - 12 election Abiola won. I was part of it. You can't educate me. Always defending nonsense

Jesus Christ!

You are truly ignorant.

Chai!

Beko was a doctor and not a medical professor like his older brother Prof Olikoye Ransome-Kuti, who was Minister of Health in the mid 1980s at the start of the IBB regime.

Wole Soyinka also setup and headed the FRSC in the mid 1980s at the start of the IBB regime.

IBB did not need to placate the SouthWest in 1985 - 1990, for the election annulment and political turmoil he would later create in 1993.

Get your timing right.

Besides, did you bother to find out why Wole Soyinka quit his job with FRSC in the late 1980s in protest against the IBB regime that was yet to even have a June 12 political chaos?

BrodaBenad:
How can this be illegal mining?
in the centre of a city

Something is fishy

There's even a crater like the one formed from a dropped bomb

Are you suggesting that US or Russia dropped bomb in Ibadan?

Or what is farfetched about the site of an explosion?

Whether Mining, Oil Prospecting, or Military Warfare, explosives are meant to explode.

So if explosives used for illegal mining was secretly stored at that location and it exploded, were you expecting a different outcome?

Shame on Obi and that his datti running mate.

Racoon:
Bloody hypocrite! So what was the same Soyinka thinking when he agreed to serve as FRSC boss in the Babangida government that also nullified the popular June 12 election of 1993 that robbed MKO Abiola of his God-given mandate?

Having advocated for the disastrous Buhari's presidency despite knowing his antecedents, kongi till today has never apologized for that error or commented on the corrupt nature of Tinubu including his CSU certificate forgery, identity theft, bullion vans saga, and the gbajue perpetuated by him and INEC in the 2023 elections. It is Peter Obi matter he carry for head. All because it is an ethnic affair.

Ignoramus!

As if Soyinka in the 1980s when he served as FRSC head, knew that IBB would nullify elections later in 1993.

If you are empty headed, stop making a public disgrace of your ignorance.

Brendaniel:
And why did Tinubu jump ahead of EFCC by suspending Betta Edu, he should have waited for EFCC to finish their investigation first....

Is suspension same as sack?

Is suspension not a means to allow full investigation of the allegation without any undue interference by the minister?

There is no point digging deep into a failed argument.

immortalcrown:
You are just ranting. Since you can't answer my questions because you didn't draw the budget, you are not in the position to criticise what Obi said about the budget.

We cannot criticize the opinion of a critic?