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BeLookingIDIOT:
Eternal life for suicide

suicide is not always a sin cos most people who commit suicide had a momentous mental disorder before the action and anything done as a result of mental illness is not really considered an offence even on earth howbeit with GOD who understands humans better.

LadyHeaven:
Same here, its just to painful a story, i know suicide is a sin BUT i know that God is also merciful, i pray He forgives her & grant her peace

suicide is not always a sin cos most people who commit suicide had a momentous mental disorder before the action and anything done as a result of mental illness is not really considered an offence even on earth howbeit with GOD who understands humans better.

JasonScoolari:
Gave birth to them through Caesarean Section which is a very painful way to bring forth a child into this world, now hearing such news about their death was really devastating for her...

She couldn't take the pains anymore, She couldn't enjoy the joy of motherhood.

This is really painful.

And i learnt that you can only have C section twice meaning those were her only hope of being a mother..Oh Gosh!

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GOD have mercy on her soul

Tears in my eyes as i write this.

Can we now see how Nigerians are killing fellow citizens? A building that was marked for demolition and even people moved out just to move in again after the demolition mark was removed probably after somebody has collected bribe and we can now see the negative ripple effect.

"It touches one to lose precious lives in any kind of mishap, particularly those so young and tender," "May God grant everyone affected by this sad incident fortitude and succor."

GOD PLEASE GRANT THIS WOMAN ETERNAL LIFE SO SHE CAN LIVE FOREVER WITH HER KIDS. i cant just hold back tears right now.

C505:
As you said "man's negligence." I won't be surprised that one or two people must have seen this thing in their dreams but negligence due to the amount of money they paid already.

Sometimes we need to listen to our spirit more often

It is not even about dreams but the same building was marked for demolition before and people left the building just for them to move back after a period of time.

Nigerians killing themselves since the day of colonization..we are our own worst enemies.

Daviddson:
Why marrying a fake pastor is disastrous. Some of these fake con men, their wives know they are just scammers while they continue to praise each other as 'man' and 'woman of God' in the public.

You need agbo

M0ron:
He never married but cohabited with her before he divorced this one

Go and get your facts right...he did a civil wedding with her.

Zither:
Lies. Anyone who believes this puts his or her soul in jeopardy.

Hebrews 10:38 - Now the just shall live by faith; But if anyone draws back my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

1 Peter 4:18 - Now, If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?

Eternal security is a doctrine of the devil. As long as you think you cannot lose your salvation while you continue in sin, you are on your way to perdition. Even Jesus Himself said He would tell those who said they heal in His name and perform all sorts of miracles in His name to depart from Him. Why? They were workers of iniquity, and the wages of sin will always be spiritual death.

Then be ready to end up in hell if you ever commit just one sin before you die.

Hedonisst:
Homeless and broke after 35 long years in the United States? Same country where sharp Naija boys make it one way or the other within a couple of months? What can it be other than village people determined to rubbish his destiny? Blocking his eyes, nose and ears to opportunities and numbing his body and soul from taking productive action. Condemning him to lethargy, lifelessness and terminal passivity. May God help him.

Village people would never succeed in making our lives one of failure and uselessness. Somebody shout a loud AMEN.

You are deluded.

C505:
Ethiopian airline

Now collapsed building

What's next? God save their souls till we meet again in His kingdom

All caused by man's negligence but some will say GOD is wicked for allowing people to die in this manner.

Mankiso:
Mine is a sad tale. We used to live in a large extended family compound at the village. There were always intra-family fracas and wars, so this often repelled my emotions. There was this family, living right side of us whose children and their mother fought my mother constantly. One day, I was going out of the compound and I was met at the gate by one of their sons who was older than me. Suddenly, Aneke pulled me and dragged me by the hand into the bush. I was five and he was about thirteen. I got thrown to the ground and he lay on my body facing me, his rising dick touching my penis. He tore through my dirty and sweat soaked knicker and brought out my small dick. He began to lick it, and would move gently and forcefully up and down the length and breath of my full body, his penis rousing mine up. When he finished, he said I should suck his dick which was bigger. Afraid and shocked and my heart pumping fast, I licked his dirty and smelly penis. He would cloth himself and ask me to zip back my untidy knickers. I was dumbfounded by the whole act. I would not tell my mother because Aneke had warned me, saying we would be beaten if I exposed what he did. Since I couldn't talk, afraid of what could happen to us, for I was already tired of the constant wars and fights and afraid for my poor mother, I lived through my childhood and teenage and now as an adult emotionally and psychologically bruised, tormented and traumatized. I almost ended up a homosexual since I thought it was the norm, but my close relationship with God early in life had helped me to be able to control myself whenever the urge comes. I hardly keeps a relationship and my communication pattern is poor, if not none-existent. I always feel that people suspect me and I am impetuously angry and pained by my experience. However, I have not had anal sex with anyone and nobody has done that to me. I also have not had penetrative sex with the female. I will be thirty-nine soon. I am not married.

I am thinking all the time. I hate my village and I do not like to go there. I hate Aneke and I do not like to see him.

In the last recent years, I started experiencing a very troubling health challenge: a distressing mouth and body odours. I have gone to hospitals, clinics, and to herbal homes and others, all to no avail. A lab scientist kindly suggested I go to a neuropsychological hospital and I was referred. I was shocked to learn that the odours are psychologically functional, being the chemical and hormonal results of increased and unabated sexual identity tensions, fears and thoughts expressed by me through thinking and anger. I go to a prophetic church and I am often advised to stop being angry and to stop hating and avoiding people. I don't visit people at their home, I am afraid of re-experiencing my childhood rape and abuse. I have no friends and I worry constantly about who would be my best man during wedding. I am trying to settle down with the help of very nice medical psychologists and psychiatrists and it has not been easy. They advise that I should learn to forget and forgive, that my sexual abuse wasn't my fault. They say I should learn to move on with life. I get dragged in my dreams by handsome males and abused.

I am.learning to understand the horrors of life and why there are many homosexuals in Nigeria. When people say they should be killed and thrown into jail, I do not share this opinion as they may be victims of child sexual abuse. What they need is therapy to overcome the trauma of their violations. I am writing about my experience and how I nearly got disoriented sexually. It is a story of anger, apprehension, and self-hate. I constantly worry about how to publish such a controversial topic and where to get the money to do so. My therapists diagnosed that my experience affected every facets of my life: relationship, communication, career, thoughts, including physiological growth and maturity.

I.am shakened by my experience and my response to it is with a story of understanding of tragedies as this and how not to be a homosexual in Nigeria, in a letter to my friend who has run away from Nigeria.

Child sexual abuse is a crime. Your boy child who gets abused by a male could become a gay tomorrow. Watch out!

Wow! Psychological root body odour..that is new.

jesmond3945:
Op if you ask this question you are in order but I want to also ask another question why does God allow good things to happen? If we blame God for bad things, how much can we praise him for good things or is He not good enough? Let me tell God has designed this world and set its laws. Thats why you go to school to understand these laws and how to apply them. If you touch electric wire, the law says you must be electrocuted. Thats why we have insulators. The same thing with natural disasters. Take for example the school building that collapsed, are you going to blame God for it. In europe some buildings that we built 300 years ago are still standing, you know why they obeyed the laws that govern building. It is only a fool that would blame God for disasters when even in disaster prone areas they have been able to overcome. Just imagine if Nigeria had earthquakes, we would be blaming and cursing God everyday.

Insightful.

stagger:
God handed dominion of the earth over to man. So technically speaking, God's jurisdiction over the earth is limited. God will only override that jurisdiction when help is sought in the form of prayer.

Picture this. A nation's government is at war with rebels. It is having difficulty defeating the rebels and needs external help in the form of weapons, training, finannce and logistics. That nation has to officially write to the nation it needs help from, or it has to go to the United Nations Security Council to appeal for such intervention. In appealing for such intervention, valid reasons must be presented to back up the appeal. These reasons are deliberated on by the country or countries whose help is being sought, before they decide whether to answer the call for help or not.

That is how it works in this world. We are at war with the devil and his agents, who bring up all manner of situations to either kill us, make us ill, uncomfortable, have challenges, lose battles, suffer all forms of attacks, etc. At some stage, you will need divine intervention. You therefore have to make a case for such intervention by praying about it, and using strong reasons from the Word of God to back up why you need such intervention.

The court of heaven will decide on your case based on your prayer and strong reasons brought forward (oh yes, heaven has a court o! Jesus is our advocate and intercedes for us against the devil who accuses the brethren continually) -> Read 1 John Chapter 2 ver 1-2; Hebrews 9 ver 15, Hebrews 12 v 24. Also recall when God called an assembly in heaven to decide Ahab's fate in 1 Kings 22.

So prayer, prayer and more prayer is the key. It is our call for divine intervention in the realm of men. We need to call on God continually to avoid mishaps wherever they are waiting, or to pray against untimely death in any form, using scriptures.

Also check well. Many "tragedies" that we see are not because God allows them to happen. He has already handed over dominion of earth and all that is in it to us. But check well: many tragedies are orchestrated by human greed and errors.

For instance, how did nearly the entire Chacopoense FC team of Brazil perish in that air crash in the mountains of Colombia? It was found out that the company that owned the private plane they hired was in financial trouble and cooked the books to cover it all up from the regulators. They started skipping maintenance checks and on the fateful day, NO ALLOWANCE WAS MADE FOR A CRUCIAL REFUELLING STOP. Furthermore, one of the pilots was a shareholder in the company and was aware of the dire financial situation of the company. Why did he not speak up?

Why is Boeing suddenly announcing an upgrade on its MCAS software even before an air investigation has been concluded? I can bet you the company knew that something was not right with the 737MAX model. We are only just hearing that the engine redesign and mounting led to a shift in the model's centre of gravity. So the aircraft now relies entirely on the MCAS software to steady its nose in flight.

There is a cover up somewhere and it will be revealed. This has nothing to do with God, but man's greed!

100%

LegitHustler:


We live because we will die eternal life comes after death

Op it seems that the life of an average nigerian is not worth it If not you would have referred to those that died during the election or deaths in nigeria. You and buhari are almost on the same page. Buhari sent a condolence message to the victims of the crash while neglecting those that died during the election

Till the kingdom of God is established on earth death is inevitable.

Hmmmm!

You have a point though.

JJOF:
Toks2008, god bless you. Sometimes i wonder y pple make too much fuss abt death. Well, i guess dey ven't yet understood dat we are on a tour here on earth, n will soon return home.

Amen bro.

BeLookingIDIOT:
You raised a question,yet answered another one: wasn't your inquest supposed to be about dying tragically and not normal transitioning?

It is about tragic death not normal transition cos just as you named it..NORMAL meaning you grow old and die.

dachiwater:
A Ghanaian atheist who reacted to the plane crash incident over the weekend, stated that God was drinking beer and couldn't save Ethiopian Airlines crash victims. 

The popular Ghanaian atheist identified as Chris-Vincent Agyapong who further listed 7 reasons why the crash occurred, asked why none of the 157 people which probably included children and infants couldn't call on his or her God and the God answered. The UK based Ghanaian atheist who reacted to the death of the Ethiopian Airlines crash victims, wrote; 


https://unclesuru.com/2019/03/12/god-was-drinking-beer-and-couldnt-save-ethiopian-airlines-crash-victims-ghanaian-atheist/



lalasticlala, seun, mynd44

https://www.nairaland.com/5070962/why-does-god-allow-tragic


Lalasticlala I guess you need to see the thread on this link.

Good morning.

Amberon11:
You're a hypocrite because you're a misorgynist who always sides men even when they're wrong and never speak the truth.

Soro niyen?

Now I can confirm that o re e gidi gan

Toks2008:
The auto crash i had in November 11th 2001 that gave me a serious nerve injury.

My enemies on nairaland!

Imagine Some people gave a LIKE to the quoted.

The auto crash i had in November 11th 2001 that gave me a serious nerve injury.

Still fresh in my memory....
I was driving with a lady beside me and two kids sat at the back.

About 2 minutes before the accident one of the kids at the back asked me to use my seat belt and I replied.. "no need cos I don't speed on a road I don't know....

As if the boy saw the accident... all of a sudden a trailer faced me head on and I swerved to avoid the collision..that was the last thing I remembered but was jolted back to consciousness when I landed on my buttocks...

I was about given up the ghost when I heard voices asking me not to close my eyes or put my back on the bushy ground...

In short I managed to live and the lady beside me had a fractured hand but nothing happened to the kids.

I was told I flew out from the window but till date I still wonder how my full body managed to fly through the small driver side door window space.

Amberon11:
Here comes the biggest hypocrite in all of nairaland. Western kids wether male of female talk to their parents anyhow they like. I've seen little boys on Maury who actually beat their moms up. Never saw a female who hit their parents. So the male kids are even more guilty in that aspect.

Secondly, you are wrong on the divorce ration. Contrary to what you cited , 8 out 10 divorce cases are actually caused by the adultery on the part of the men and we all know that western women don't tolerate bullshittt.

And how does the word "hypocrite" correlate with my view?

Se ko re e?

MissRike:
As people here in Nigeria are complaining, those abroad are also complaining about Nigerian women which I feel is not too right.

One thing I know quite well is that marriage is all about compromise and many people out there, I must say, are not ready for that. The man only wants a woman that would be keeping the house and warming his bed alone without him helping her at all on some occasions while the woman also needs a man that would be spoiling her and tolerating all her excesses (without trying to change) and not considering her man. That's where compromise and individuality play their roles.

How would a man say he just needs a wife that will be doing everything at home, like the household chores and cooking alone without helping her at all, just crossing his feet, demanding for everything from her even without resting after coming back from work . I think what he needs is actually a housemaid.

The truth is that couples were created by God to be help mates and not slaves, that's what strengthens the relationship more. Treat a woman like a queen and watch her treat you like a king. It's only a mad or crazy woman that will not reciprocate when treated well by her man and that's where personality comes in.


So OP and the other men on this thread, don't generalize. The kind of company you keep determines the kind of people you meet. Put God first, have a good mindset (that you need a help mate and not a housemaid) & move with the right people and watch how marriage turns out well for you. Peace!!!

I think this thread is already derailed by guys who don't understand the foreign lifestyle.

There is no biggy in doing house chores cos they are kinda stress-less. The hover,washing machine,regular power supply that keeps your food fresh and so on.

I can make a month's food in 4hours and all i do is microwave the one i want to eat without stressing my wife to prepare any food..in fact i love cooking to the extent that she begs me to cook.

the washing machine does the laundry and with a hover you can keep your floors clean and toilets can be washed by either of you whenever necessary.

This wife slavery mindset no dey abroad and any guy who wants a good marriage must start by getting active in domestic affairs and especially in taking care of the kids. Nothing stops you from waking up early to bathe the kids and take them to school if your wife is on night duty and both of you can plan your itinerary so that your kids are well taken care of.

Lastly, the only way you can have a better chance of good marriage is to bring in a lady you have known before you ever left naija otherwise you are almost certain to bring a bad lady pretending to love you.

Ctemi:
Bro, thank for ur testimonies, there are till gud ladies here in US.

No one is saying there are no good ladies and a random coincidence is not a true reflection of statistical accuracy.

Out of every 10 ladies that are born and raised in the western world,maybe 3 will be well groomed for marriage and 3 out of 10 is somewhat negligible.

LUCAS99:
What part of it isn’t easy?

That’s what I did & what a couple of friends I know did...

Whatever I’m telling you is based strictly on Experience not hearsay...

A) OP doesn’t have a Paper Problem...

OP never said He had a Paper Problem. If he did then he would have never thought about going to Nigeria to Marry...

B) As far as I’m concerned Ladies abroad don’t have any phobia against Nigerian Guys...

Are there Girls that will turn you down? Absolutely Yes...

It has nothing to do with any Nigerian Phobia heck you can even say you’re from Africa without mentioning Nigeria.

Are there Girls that Avoid Black Guys? Absolutely Yes...

There are Girls that have #I don’t date Black Guys Policy & that includes both African American Guys as well as Nigerian Guys

(C) Some Girls are above your league... FACT

This is not Nigeria...

You have to be realistic with yourself...

You don’t expect a Lawyer OR Medical Doctor to marry a Security Guard...

Does it happen? Maybe but the chances of that happening is usually very slim & isn’t something to hope on...

Heck most College Educated Ladies also want a College Educated Man...

The truth of the matter is that there are materialistic Ladies both Home & Abroad...

You cannot runaway from reality...

If OP has his Papers, has a Job & has an Apartment plus having a Car doesn’t hurt as well...

OP wouldn’t have any problem finding a Girl within his League except he is an introvert...

The only way OP will have his life together & still be struggling to find a relationship is if OP is aiming for Someone way above his league all things being equal...

OP the big question now is:

Are you aiming for a Lady way above your League?

That’s a thought provoking question for you to answer...

I get your point and I agree with you but in the western world all the talks of marrying within your status or league is inconsequential cos they don't need you or your money except the lady is still struggling.

The biggest challenge is when you are not yet settled n you want to get married. The moment you are settled you won't really have issues with getting women.

The point I raised bothered on the erroneous mindset of some people in naija as regards the ease if getting women abroad to marry.

Excuzeme:
You are very true, what you wrote.
I am even worried that some people are trying to cover-up or divert attention from the truth, the reality.

A few things come to mind:

1.) the world has changed, marriage is no longer what it used to be. Everyone has their own "idea" of what their marriage should look like. It wont work out if you marry someone who deos not share that your "view" of marriage.

2.) Western colonization has gradually eroded the "African tradition/culture" and this has affected our marriages. What and how my mother views marriage is not how my wife views it. How my father sees marriage, l am afraid, l tried to see it like that but it is just not working!

3.) Environment affects marriage like nothing else, it is the most important factor! I have seen very nice, lovely and motherly wives who were the envy of everyone that knows them in Nigeria, for more than ten years (not a single quarrel with the husband, nice kids, e.t.c) but that marriage crashed completely within five years of relocating abroad. I have seen too many of these to conclude it is not just mere coincidence.
Why is it that most "feminist" dont have a husband or are divorced women? Is it because they dont take shyte from their husbands?
What went wrong?

4.) If you marry in Nigeria, l am sure both the husband and wife have expectations of each other (Things l will do, things you must not do, things l can take, boundaries that must not be crossed, how in-laws are treated, how family members are treated, e.t.c). These are the basis of any marital union.
Nigerian, legal, customary and traditional LAWS also support these expectations (e,g, you cant drive your husband's mother out of your "marital home" because she has become a part of the family).
All these flies out of the window, once you relocate abroad with your wife!
The "LAWS" in the western world has made Husbands completely impotent and to be honest, there is nothing "Husbands in the Western world" fear more, than their Wife! How can anyone say that is "marriage"?

Marriage should be all about happiness, bliss, love, caring, sharing, dedication, trust, mutual respect, mutual reliance and most importantly, COMMITMENT. There is no room for FEAR, in a real marriage! If you live in-fear of your spouse (husband or wife), then you are not married but dying slowly or planning to kill him/her in the nearest future.

5.) If you come from Abroad to marry a wife in Nigeria, chances, to as high as 90% you will realize it is the greatest mistake you ever made in your life.
Dont blame it on Nigerian ladies, blame it on Poverty, blame it on desperation and finally, blame it on the "change in environment and culture".
How do you expect a woman who was brought up in a "culture and environment" where she is raised to agree that she must cook for her husband, not order him around, not slap him if he misbehaves, respect his mother and allow them free access to their son and CANNOT, under any circumstance (even if they quarrel, which all couples do!) throw him out of his house..... now suddenly finds herself EXPORTED to a "culture and environment" that legalize and promote male-abuse, that says you can call 911 and without any question asked, the Police will order him out of his house WITHOUT ANY PROOF OR BENEFIT OF DOUBT, where his Mother cannot knock on her son's door at 9pm and you the wife is the one who can decide whether she stays that night or go sleep at the local police station as a "wanderer"?

How do you expect her to cope when you suddenly export her to an environment and culture which says it is okay for her to slap you at the slightest provocation but you must just walk away otherwise you will suffer double jeopardy because you will land in jail so fast, you wont know what hit you?
How do you expect her to cope when she is told by Social Workers that she can own the house, the children of the marriage and everything you have, all she needs to do is just shout "domestic violence", even if it is trumped-up?

How do you expect her to remain "sane and behave like your wife" when you export her to an environment and culture which says if you both agree to have $ex as husband and wife, (which is legal and godly), she can change her mind during the intercourse and if you dont stand up immediately, she can charge you for rape (Yes, your own wife o!) and you spend the rest of your life in jail?

I can continue to list the MADNESS that marriage in the "Western world" has become, till tomorrow,
All l am saying is that, you guys should stop fooling yourselves thinking you can import a Naija lady abroad and she would still be the same "nice wife" you know in Nigeria or the nice lady she pretends to be while, in Nigeria. She would change and it is not her fault. she just cant help it (I am not justifying it or saying it is right)...but you must not expect otherwise because if you do, it is the disappointment when she changes, that will kill you first before her actions does. (Nigerian ladies, dont be annoyed, l am just trying to prepare the mind of you potential husbands for what would happen, so they dont start forming ignorance).

6.) The Devil you know, is better than the Angel you dont know! That is a big, fat lie.
The Women abroad, especially the Akatas (Black women born and raised in the Western world, Europe, Americas) .... if you live abroad, you probably know them very well. (Less than 10% of them are "wife material).
They grew up in a culture that treats men as scum, slaves and a tool for their pleasure. they are not really into marriage, as we see it over here in Nigeria or as we experienced it between our own parents.

They just wanna be proposed to with an expensive ring, do a lavish wedding and still f*ck around like they are still single. If they have a child for you, you can never be sure who is the father so a DNA test is as cheap and accessible as a malaria test over there.
"Bastard Child" as we know it in Nigeria, does not bring "shame" to any woman over there because probably eight out of ten persons you come across was raised by a` man who is not their father but was told by their mother, that he is their father, till they found out.
They just move on.
Infact, it has become so "normalized| that men are beginning to think it is a "sign of good character" to not complain when your wife brings another man's pregnancy/child into the marriage, you just raise the kid like your own once she says 'I am sorry".

So, even if you marry an Akata in your neighborhood over there in the Western world, it is still as risky and dangerous as importing a wife from Nigeria.

And that brings us to the real issue: marriage is no longer what we know it to be.
Drop all those expectations, if you dont want to be disappointed, you will be, if you still look at it from the lens of "how it used to or was supposed to be".

Let me stop here.
My advice:
Dont marry for children, there in no guarantee they wont be taken off-you by your wife, at one point in the future. There are so many men out there who cant see, relate or even be allowed to say 'hello' to their kids, by their wife or the state. Surrogacy can give you a child of your own, without a mother and the headache of marriage! Ask Linda Ikeji if still in doubt.

Dont marry for $ex, you can get it without marriage and all its wahala. The $ex doll is a low-maintenance item that wont throw you out of your house or call Police on you or cheat on you and you can remove the battery anytime you want. She is beautiful and very life-like!

Dont marry for love, it is not what keeps a marriage or brings happiness, (Trust, Commitment, Dedication, mutual respect is what does)

Dont marry because you think your wife is submissive or will obey you, she wont once she thinks she can get-away with not doing so (Abroad standard). Women of today are being told they are not women, but Men and should act like men,

Dont marry because of beauty, that one fades faster than those fake jeans they sell at Aba.

Dont marry because you think it will bring you happiness......most married men (especially in the WEST) are living in pain, fear and bondage. How can such people even pretend to be happy (Nigerian husbands living in Nigeria should than their stars but l can assure them that it wont last for long, the evil is gradually creeping-in.

If you must marry, sign a Pre-nup (or a Post-nup if already married). have no "good expectations" from the marriage, you wont get any, anyway. It breaks when it breaks, dont hinge your happiness on it.
Marriage as of today, is all about the woman and what she selfishly wants.
The man that marries should know how much danger he is subjecting himself to. That does not stop you from marrying afterall, we know electricity kills but we still wire our houses and use it.
Those are the brutal truth that will come to pass, sooner or later, even if you dont believe it now.

PS: To some people this is trash and l agree with such people. To some it is life-saving and l still agree with them, to some. it is "wetin concern me" and those are the people l love most. Dont get worked up over this.

I'm amazed to come across such intelligent submittion on nairaland...

You have dissected everything patapata.

Most ladies in the western world are not marriageable both by their own men who are equally citizens or even guys without papers but at the end these ladies quickly blame it on papers when a guy leaves them after getting resident status through them.

There was a lady I met in U.k that has a very domineering attitude...

If she says anything and I agree it is discussion but if I show any form of disagreement she will ask us to stop the discussion....to most of them...YOUR OPPINION DOES NOT COUNT.

You dare not interject when they are talking...if you do you will hear words like.."Don't talk when I'm talking"...they know it all.

I have heard a woman abuse her husband so much that I had to check again if It was not a movie scene I heard...

In the western world, in most cases, the man is the wife and you go fear if you hear the way a 13 year old girl speaks to her own biological father n you can imagine how she will talk to her husband.

8 out of 10 western divorced ladies are the cause of their marital fiasco...dem no tell me...i don see am first hand.

jaybee3:
You are still here chatting shyte as always

I hope you are giving all these advice as a married man sha?

Must you always showcase your foolishness? Please swerve and let sensible people contribute. Dumbo

Don't bother quoting me cos I won't grant you the luxury of further response.

Angela777:
I did no matter poor, black and no papers, he was very insisting. It didn't end well. And I will not take the same risk twice. It's what happens, many get burnt and no more dating or marrying a Nigerian man.

My point exactly.

If you were married to a guy with papers n the marriage broke down would you say you won't marry another guy with papers?

There are many underlying factors responsible for marital breakups.

Many ladies get so arrogant towards their men especially if the guy has no papers but in most cases these guys just stomach the insults until they get what they want.

I repeat...if a man stays under the same roof with a lady for 6months to a year and he does not still desire her then something is wrong somewhere.

Angela777:
So true. Women in America learnt the Nigerian man is possibly scam and wants us for papers, now so much information online about it. Also not all American women go into interracial marriage, many educated women are picking from their level guys and if they don't find any at similar level, they prefer being single.

And this is one big mistake many ladies make and I will take time out to explain.

I always tell these ladies abroad..." if you love him, take the risk" whether he has papers or not.

Shits happen and marriage crash for many reasons but if the marriage between two western citizens break up they tag it irreconcilable difference but if it is between a western citizen and a foreigner who is not a citizen they call it scam marriage or green card marriage...how weird.

If a lady is good and very wifeable I believe almost every man will love such in the shortest possible period cos I know it takes at least 2years to get papers through marriage in U.S and 5 to 11 years in U.K so if a guy lives with you for a year and he still has no interest to be with you then something is wrong somewhere.

Secondly, most guys with papers don't want ladies with papers cos they know they are better of single considering the hot girls looking for guys with papers...so this simply means most ladies with papers who font want guys without papers may remain single for a very long time.

As i wrote earlier...if you truly want a guy..paper or no paper...GO FOR HIM AND TAKE THE RISK.

cococandy:
Maybe not by choice

You can’t tell

Well you are right cos many factors can contribute to it.

cococandy:
I’m sure many Nigerian married women can benefit from intimacy gadgets. Marital status has nothing to do with it

At least it is by choice for the married ones.