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Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 1:37pm On Nov 11, 2010
Sweetnecta:
You have been dancing around, running as if you will exit this earth before Allah Wills it on you. You are mine, until Allah Makes other decisions on you. You said the hadith about Satan came about because of Superstition. You now say superstition is equal to bad Omen. proof both.
ROTFLMAO. . . let me help you with language, Superstition is not a bad omen. . .rather saying women is a bad omen is sure a superstition. Why is this so hard for this follower of a paedophile to comprehend.

Pls dont tell me you still dont understand simple english. grin grin grin I am beginning to feel shy responding your daft posts grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Child Dedication By Christians, Any Biblical Support To This Practice by Tonyet1(m): 12:32pm On Nov 11, 2010
InesQor:
@Tonye-T: Whoa thanks bro but are you sure you got the right blog? Cos i must confess i have been a lazy blogger, i have two and one has been abandoned since last year, the other for 3 months! I will take this as a reminder, I need to get back to my blog(s).
off topic: When the Qu** is traced with his core topics on nairaland. . .I can never go wrong wink. Yeah the blog seems untouched for a while. . .but responses keep it fresh. grin. *hoping we'll do stuffs together.
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 12:20pm On Nov 11, 2010
vedaxcool:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 30:
Narrated Abdullah bin 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "Evil omen is in the women, the house and the horse.'

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 31:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Evil omen was mentioned before the Prophet: The Prophet said, "If there is evil omen in anything, it is in the house, the woman and the horse."

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 32:
Narrated Sahl bin Sad:

Allah's Apostle said, "If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house."

the adjourning hadiths gave a wider implication of what he meant, " If there is evil omen in anything " this initial statement tell us there is non, then next says it all " If at all there is bad omen" , again the Prophet implicitly denies there are any thing like bad omen. During the life time of the Prophet pbuh, there was an incident where a companion requested they designate a tree for hanging their weapons, this practice was common with the pagan arabs, they believed it brought luck, the Prophet rejected this suggestion as it cannot bring any Luck, what I am saying in essence is that superstition has never been the Prophet pbuh thing.
I never knew that folly comes in packs and sizes. . .I'll look no further hence forth grin grin grin Ok! pls lets try breaking this grammar better

- Haddith according to Abdullah bin 'Umar wrote that Mohammad said : "Evil omen is in the women, the house and the horse."

- Haddith according to Ibn 'Umar wrote that Mohammad said : "If there is evil omen in anything, it is in the house, the woman and the horse."

- Haddith according to Sahl bin Sad wrote that Mohammad said : "If at all there is bad omen, it is in the horse, the woman, and the house."


Please Vedaxcool, I have gone thru' all this haddiths and none ever put up any such thing as a question mark (?) meaning Mohammad did not put that comment as a question, but a STATEMENT. . . better still a DECREE.

Stop saying rubbish. . .U r defending 'ur prophet for saying superstitions grin grin grin You prophet Mo' has simply told you that every woman in Islam is a BAD OMEN. . .wats so hard in agreeing with Him?. . . grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 12:05pm On Nov 11, 2010
Sweetnecta:
@Tonye-T: It seems to me that you are saying that OMEN is the same as SUPERSTITION?

Definition of Omen: 1. A phenomenon supposed to portend good or evil; a prophetic sign.
2. Prognostication; portent: birds of ill omen.
tr.v. o·mened, o·men·ing, o·mens
To be a prophetic sign of; portend.


Definition of Superstition: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b : an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2
: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary


Tonye-T, you do have some education, and english wrongly so in my own opinion is the official language of Nigeria, anation you claim to come from.Now tell me if by the two definitions, above that OMEN IS EQUAL TO SUPERSTITION? Open your eyes, and tell me which one of them has the word PROPHETIC in, if not OMEN?
Nopuqeater Sweetnecta  grin grin

Must your post always come up this daft?when i saw 'your post i easily summed up that you'were that pigless eater of a guy who ends up talking rubbish in a bid to defend a baseless religion  grin grin. . . like seriously. . .dont you understand simple and comprehensive english?

Please where did/have i said that Omen means the same thing as superstition? Rather my claims about your prophet Mo's declarations and stance about Women are merely supersititions. get it!

Good a thing you even defined superstitions as:
  a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation

meaning your prophet found his religion out of his ignorance and practise resulting from false conceptions. . .at least u said so and not me grin grin
RomanceRe: How Will You Feel When You Lose Your Virginity by Tonyet1(m): 6:02pm On Nov 10, 2010
annawhite:
who be dis one?u were disvirgin at 4yrs so why d preaching


@poster
im so sorry for you cos but the time u come out of your hallucinations,[b]your hymen is already damaged[/b]men are not worth d trouble
One moment she is criticising a preacherboi. . . the next moment she is consoling and acting a preachergal, but babe you and I know that sex is the least thing in every relationship. . .IT IS WORTH WAITING FOR  grin grin grin grin
RomanceRe: How Will You Feel When You Lose Your Virginity by Tonyet1(m): 5:54pm On Nov 10, 2010
slap1:
If my girl sees this and refuses to give me . . . I'll ban you. Nonsense!
Just what every greedy guy will say^^^. . . grin grin

my friend Sex is worth waiting for.

Amazingly before now, folks use to say those words are from religious folks but little wonder even HIV billboards go on to say
ZIP UPgrin grin grin

The truth is that there are million-and-one things to enjoy in relationships outseide sex. . .only dry relationships indulge in sex. . . maybe they are just too inexperienced on relationships grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Child Dedication By Christians, Any Biblical Support To This Practice by Tonyet1(m): 5:47pm On Nov 10, 2010
off topic: love your blog. . . Inesqor! visit there everyday! smiley
RomanceRe: How Will You Feel When You Lose Your Virginity by Tonyet1(m): 4:49pm On Nov 10, 2010
apocalypse:
@powertool

How did you know she's 17 , it's not on her profile so how did you know ?
2010 - 1993 = 17 (chinwe93) wink

Chinwe sorry but me thinks you just made a wrong choice. . .virginity is a woman's most treasured gift to one man - HER HUSBAND.


"marriage is honorable when the bed is undefiled" - Hebrew 13:4 *i dont judge you though* wink smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 4:36pm On Nov 10, 2010
Seyi,

u really get time to try and discuss with this Islamic pigless eaters. . .they are full of bitterness and unnecessary stupidity!. . . I have asked them time and time again to come up and say it openly IF THEY BELIEVE IN THE HADDITHS . . .and none could say a $hit. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 4:32pm On Nov 10, 2010
And the Prophet Mo's superstitions trails. . . undecided

The haddith according to Sahih Al-Bukhari quoted Mohammad as saying, " Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse." Vol. 7:30
Vedaxcool, sweetnecta et al. . . i mean no harm! but what would you make of your Holy Prophet's stupidity here. How on earth would someone write to his followers that WOMEN ARE BAD OMEN. . .na wa o!

Ok!for other readers, let me break the stories discovered by Islamic scholars who believed that Mohammad said so much superstitions, so that it doesnt come as a mock on Islamism originating from Tonye

In Vol. 2:541 of the Haddith according to Sahih Al-Bukhari, it was discovered that Mohammad fell out with his other wives during the time he brought in a little girl as young as 9yrs by name Aisha tobe his wife (mr.paedophile), and the brawl was so much so that shameful words were exchanged against both sides. And one of those words was when Mohammad in anger said "Women are bad omen". Now the funniest part was that this insult immediately found itself to the Haddiths and Quran.

Like WTH! why would someone go on to teach his followers that Women (Natures best gift to Mankind on Procreation) were bad omen from Allah. little wonder his followers hate women so much and would not want them to live a good life.

Na wa for Prophet Mohammad Superstition
 grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is Marrying More Than One Wife A Sin by Tonyet1(m): 4:11pm On Nov 10, 2010
MyJoe:
I am really interested in learning what you find "wrong" with polygamy
Mr.Joe,

Recall my assertion would come with a
"can be wrong" and not an "is wrong". embarassed However, as we put that in focus I still maintain my stand. Lets see it this way

On singles and Married

Paul admonished the corinthian church on the value of marriage and still yet advised those who would/could remain singles as making a good choice if they'll remain that way. Where on earth did Paul get the ideology that remaining single is a good idea bearing in mind that FROM THE BEGINNING it wasnt so. He went on by saying that his reasons for his advise was because of the timeline of Jesus' coming and the evil days ahead (he can come up as justified. . .no problems!)

But in Genesis, the next thing after creation was the herald . . .all things are beautiful. If we take this cry as a STANDARD therefore i'll mince no word to say that the idea of one man and one woman is and should remain a STANDARD. To answer your question I'll put it like this. . .Is it good to remain a single ? my answer is no, because staying as one CAN BE wrong(according to Genesis). . .yet not a sin (according to 1corinthians 7).

On Anger

Paul admonished us - the christians, that we can "be angry, but we should not sin". Now, the quest is ----> Is anger a good thing for a spirit filled Christian? my answer is no, because the consequences of Anger CAN BE destructive (Prov.27:4). . .yet anger is not a sin in itself.

I stand to be corrected. . .cheers!  smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Is Marrying More Than One Wife A Sin by Tonyet1(m): 3:37pm On Nov 10, 2010
seyibrown:
This part of your post actually brings me to Jesus saying that the only grounds for divorce was 'fornication' which many of us (me included) misinterpret as 'adultery'. Given that a married woman cannot commit fornication, there are no grounds for divorcing one's wife. Looking at the Jewish marriage customs, the man gives the wife-to-be's family any 'dowry' and he goes away for a period of time and comes back 'unannounced' to take his wife (Just like Jesus' second coming). If during the period of the groom's absence, the wife-to-be commits fornication and it becomes known after the wedding, that will be grounds to divorce her. It is similar to our waiting for the Lord, we ought to remain faithful till he comes and not fornicate with the world because he will arrive unannounced. Anything else the wife does during the marriage does not give grounds for divorce. Hosea was commanded to take his wife back despite her adultery, and God forgave and made a new covenant with Israel despite their 'adultery' with other gods.
True talk my sister, nice summation!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Marrying More Than One Wife A Sin by Tonyet1(m): 6:46pm On Nov 09, 2010
I strongly believe 'something' could be 'wrong' yet not be a 'sin'. Therefore in assertion. . .I'll say marrying more than one can be wrong even though not a sin.

How?

Jesus when asked about the validities of divorce within the law of moses said: Yes, divorce under the law should stand, but FROM THE BEGINNING it wasnt so (matt.19:8. . .), therefore one should ponder: "If marrying two wives was good by design, maybe God would have paraded another 'eve' as second wife for Adam since afterall the first Eve misbehaved (bad wife). . .goes to tell us that FROM THE BEGINNING God expects us to keep to one wife whether she turns out as good or evil  grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Dogma Of Trinity by Tonyet1(m): 5:56pm On Nov 09, 2010
^^^Ish-baby, me is been looking for you like a PhD? grin grin

@Poster,

lately I have come to understand thru' personal conviction that christianity appears more of a two-faced coin than a faith with one concept. Two folks may stand on the same platform, both starring at the same location, yet seeing different things.

The major cause for the world's religious troubles today are nothing but personal and different interpretations to a singular thought-system. To one, God could just be a spirit (invisible) that has never been seen and this folk will still find relevant scriptures to back, while to the other He (God) is just as physical as Man, this with relevant scriptures to validate their claims.

This said. . .one could come up here and read your claims against trinology and find reasons to believe you, yet another may choose to vary. How?. . .lets see scriptures. . .

Trinitarians:


- In the beginning was the Word. . .and the word was GOD (take note of the word GOD)
- This word became flesh and dwelt among man
- And the flesh came to his own people, and they recognise HIM not
- Jesus christ. . .who in very nature was GOD himself did not equal himself as GOD,
- Jesus(a God) in Phil 2:6, chose to take up the nature of a slave and put up the flesh of a human. . . and died on the cross


I can continue with validatory claims to the above, safe for time.




To an anti-trinity scholar, the scriptures you used and more can be used to counter a trinitarian's claim. so you see! the cycle continues infinito. . .to me one thing is more pertinent, and that is to Love God and his creations. whether this God is 1 in 3 places or 3 as 1. . .it makes no much of a sense. . .similar to what bible would cry as ELEMENTARY TEACHINGS OF GOD. . .they rarely edify. Cheers! smiley
Jokes EtcRe: The Trouble Of Visiting The Rich People by Tonyet1(m): 5:12pm On Nov 09, 2010
mafolayomi:
grin grin d best answer shld have bin i dont want anything
i dont think so, because more questions may erupt like :

Question: Do you want anything  grin

Answer: I dont want anything

Question: Should we give u something, nothing or everything since you dont want anything  grin

Answer: I mean nothing

Question: o. . .i see! can we add it with southing (thinking mafolayomi said northing) grin

Answer: (mafolayomi in pidgin) goosh i go die o!

Question: shooting or hanging?

Answer: (mafolayomi overreacting ) thunder fire u and your oga

Question: which fire?

someone can continue from here. . . grin grin grin
Christianity EtcLucifer Persona - The Lesson Misconcieved | Misinterpreted | Misinformed by Tonyet1(op): 2:35pm On Nov 05, 2010
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of the Creator: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned." Isa 14:12-20

Even before I got born-again, never have I subscribed to the school of thought that believed Lucifer was Satan, though I lacked arguments to back, but a friend handed a book “Is Lucifer the same as Satan?” by Ron Greg. Me thought I should share it with friends here.

It may come as a surprise to many Christians that to the Jews and New Testament Christians there was no such person as Lucifer. To many Christians Lucifer is equivalent to Satan, the devil. How could it be that the Jews knew nothing of Lucifer?, we find it clearly printed in our King James Bible in Isaiah 14. But then again it is not found in most contempary language versions. With the curiously notable exception of the New King James Version.

The term “Lucifer” was first used in Jerome’s Latin Vulgate around 383-405 A.D *noted as the first biblos before the King James version. The Hebrew word is Heylel' which suggests the idea of “shining,” or “bearing light.” Jerome assumed the word was the name of the morning star, hence, he rendered it by the Latin title “Lucifer.”

As the idea developed that Isaiah 14 contained a description of Satan’s original fall, the term Lucifer came to be applied to the devil and the designation is commonly employed today. The fact is, however, there is absolutely no evidence whatever that Isaiah 14 contains any reference to Satan.

Please note the following:
1.It would be strange indeed that the Holy Spirit should designate the ruler of the realm of spiritual darkness (Ephesians 6:12) as “lightbearer.”
2. The context clearly identifies the narrative as a “parable against the king of Babylon” who at that time was worshipped as Istar. The death of that oppressive character is vividly described. He descends into Sheol where the inmates of that realm taunt, saying, “Is this the man that made the earth to tremble?”.
This cannot be an allusion to the devil since:
1. worms eat his body, yet Satan has no body;
2. the subject of the account is called a “man”, but the Tempter is a spirit being;
3. he is to be buried in shame- a circumstance which is not applicable to the devil (cf. Revelation 20:10).
In the Old Testament, the demise of corrupt national powers is frequently represented under the imagery of falling heavenly luminaries (Isaiah 13:10; Ezekiel 32:7), hence, quite appropriately in this context the Babylonian monarch is described as a fallen star (ASV). There is, therefore, no reference to Satan in this context.
Lets know what ya’ll feel. Cheers!
Christianity EtcRe: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Tonyet1(m): 1:41pm On Nov 05, 2010
I think i see a good Moslem in Sweetnecta wink. . . that still doesnt mean Shaitan doesnt sleep in your nostril grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Superstition; Tonye-t, Come Defend You Ascertion, Against Muhammad (as). by Tonyet1(m): 5:18pm On Nov 01, 2010
Let me quote the words of the great Umar ibn AbdulAziz of the 8th century:

Haddiths are narrations concerning the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. I quote from my copy of the book - understanding the words of the prophet

inotherwords, Hadith are regarded by traditional Islamic schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Qur'an and in matters of jurisprudence.

If in case you fall short of knowing who Umar ibn is, he was of the Umayyad caliph who ruled somewhere between 717 to 720. He was also a cousin of the former caliph, being the son of Abd al-Malik's younger brother, Abd al-Aziz. He was also a great-grandson of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad, Umar bin Al-Khattab.

Logically, I'll mince no word to say he was the custodian of the LIFE OF THE PROPHET IN WRITING. . .true or false? true of course. I say this because no one would've known anything of the prophet without a book backing his existence. Now where you and your islamic folks seem to get it wrong with your undue biase and gullible sentiments is that the same acts you guys come here to oppose as untrue are the same acts you guys practise in your houses till date. Tell me i am lying?

And what baffles me is that no one has courageously stood up to say the things i wrote about the Propets teaching about Shaitan are lies. . .i was even poised to search the internet. . . and guess what? i found worse!
Christianity EtcRe: Superstition; Tonye-t, Come Defend You Ascertion, Against Muhammad (as). by Tonyet1(m): 5:17pm On Nov 01, 2010
grin grin grin grin grin mumu thread full with mumu followers of the mumu religion. *gone to get my sanitary kit to clean 'em ass.* grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 5:13pm On Nov 01, 2010
In my usual mood of generosity. . .me feels i should give my readers some reasons to LOL wink

Abdullah Al Araby revealed that Mohammed said, "The deceased person is being tortured in the grave not for a great thing to avoid, it is for being soiled with his urine. " Vol. 2:460
Imagine the prophet saying Urine on your clothes will bring punishment from God. gooosh this is too hard to bear. . .like seriously what was Mo' thinking when he taught that.

OK! let me explain. . .Al Araby said Mohammad was told that one of his unloyal servants had passed out during his night sleep and this servant had health issues such that he passes urine and faeces on his sick bed. The prophet felt the best way to wish the dude farewell to the life beyond was to publicly teach another superstition saying that "when someon dies, he will not be punished for not doing a great thing but for urinating on himself. grin grin grin grin

Now fellow NLs, how on earth will you reconcile this statements with a little baby who is prolly in his bedridden state by virtue of his/her age and then dies. Mohammad said such a baby will be punished in death for bedridden. gooosh! what a religion! undecided undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 5:00pm On Nov 01, 2010
vedaxcool:
Sweetnecta Tonye is obviously the Coward General of NL as even when we responded to his claims rather than explain or refute what we wrote he became mute like a sharp TV. The Coward
Probably became blind after seeing the thread:"Superstition; Tonye-t, come defend your ascertion, against Muhammad [as].". Coward is an understatement of the level of his timidity.
It is folks like you that make your religion a disease to the world at present today. . . first of all, your responses are nothing but pitiful, you respond like some little baby talking with so much H2O in his mouth or prolly your phalanges are too big and ichy thus you feel they should hit the keyboard every now and then even when you've got nothing to say.

Forgive me, but now i believe a follower can never be wiser than his master. What a shame!
grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 4:55pm On Nov 01, 2010
Sweetnecta:
@Tonye-T: A thread has been created for some 3 weeks now titled "Superstition; Tonye-t, come defend your ascertion, against Muhammad [as].
Meet me there. . .in a moment! grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 3:17pm On Nov 01, 2010
A coward? grin grin grin grin

hmmmm my friend is acting silly already. . . my friend if you want me to defend that, then create a thread and lets discuss it there. Thank you Mr.uncoward cow grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 2:55pm On Nov 01, 2010
Sweetnecta:
And Tonye-T ran underground, thinking he did something wonderful. He said it is superstition. I sure hope he knows the definition of superstition. And he needs to tell us how any of the ahadith, deceiving acts of satan, is superstition.
Sweetnecta,

Did you say i ran underground for exposing your prophet Mo and his supersititions. . .that my friend is pathetic. Let me show u my stands in Islamism

- I believe the writings about the life and words of Prophet Mo' in the Haddiths are true

- I believe the writers wrote those accounts with the full consent of the prophet himself acknowledging them as true

- I believe the Haddiths have enjoyed the best of preservation any ancient writings would have, considering the sacredness in which they must have been kept. meaning, the Haddiths were not and have never been adulterated.

Hear this, Islamic scholars of Haddiths believed and attest that the prophet hated the sound of bells while growing up as a child. . .and so when he said Bells were Shaitan's instrument about 30yrs later, Scholars believed this were superstitions coined in by the prophet to make his followers believe BELLS were evil.

Now my friend, if great Islamic scholars believed your prophet made some superstitions WHO ARE YOU TO SAY NO. I am not here to spend time teaching you, so i'll ask one question and pls be kind to throw in your answer. . .can you TELL ME AND FELLOW NAIRALANDERS on this forum that you do not believe the words of the HADDITHS?. . .we can start from there.
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 2:43pm On Nov 01, 2010
Let me quote the words of the great Umar ibn AbdulAziz of the 8th century:

Haddiths are narrations concerning the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. I quote from my copy of the book - understanding the words of the prophet

inotherwords, Hadith are regarded by traditional Islamic schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Qur'an and in matters of jurisprudence.

If in case you fall short of knowing who Umar ibn is, he was of the Umayyad caliph who ruled somewhere between 717 to 720. He was also a cousin of the former caliph, being the son of Abd al-Malik's younger brother, Abd al-Aziz. He was also a great-grandson of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad, Umar bin Al-Khattab.

Logically, I'll mince no word to say he was the custodian of the LIFE OF THE PROPHET IN WRITING. . .true or false? true of course. I say this because no one would've known anything of the prophet without a book backing his existence. Now where you and your islamic folks seem to get it wrong with your undue biase and gullible sentiments is that the same acts you guys come here to oppose as untrue are the same acts you guys practise in your houses till date. Tell me i am lying?

And what baffles me is that no one has courageously stood up to say the things i wrote about the Propets teaching about Shaitan are lies. . .i was even poised to search the internet. . . and guess what? i found worse! grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 1:59pm On Nov 01, 2010
@ Sweetnecta,

It appears a devote Moslem would want me to help explain to her what HADDITHS are and the essence of its significance to the Quran and the person of prophet Mo'. . . Ok! let go!
Christianity EtcRe: Manipulating Mass Psychology. . . I Was In Church On Sunday. . . by Tonyet1(m): 1:06pm On Nov 01, 2010
* laughing after reading the intro-post *

This story got me thrown back on my experience with a highly respected "Man of God" in Port Harcourt sometime September, 2009. His name(s) is/are Bishop J.M (*used initials for reasons best known*) of the KPPM.

I have lived in my previous vicinity for over 15yrs and so i could atleast give an 80% valid attestation about residents i grew up with in my hood. Bishop J.M as he is fondly called started his livelihood as a simple dramatist playing and writing for schools and the state's ministry of culture then as Jack.

His early days i'll say were like every adventurous guy, he did stuffs and all 'em girls BS. until he "met the Lord" in a vigil meeting where he went his usual gaming. I remember folks use to call him the King Pink an acronym for King Point n Kill".  grin grin

It wasnt 3months into his new birth that he announced publicly that the Lord had called him to start his ministry and i was like WTH! because i knew this dude was just zealous, poorly schooled and nothing more. I knew his rough/rude and arrogant lifestyle still had dominant trails and traits into his 'new lifestyle'.

Like play. . . like play. . . Jack chose to play the role of the 'savior of the Israelites' hence the addition of 'M' to his name  wink. Before Tonye could say Jack robinson. . .Pastor J.M had begun emassing membership like flies to a rot. goooshh His members were something else. . .they went everywhere intimidating gullibles to come join the pathetic bandwagon. it was a site not to behold!

Did i forget to say, he had this . . . will i say fear or awe for me. . . till date. and so i visited an elderly friend in that hood where his church shared fence with the old man's little house. And i heard him preaching loud through the outdoor mounted speakers saying. . ."THIS IS THE ENDTIME AND MY MISSION IS TO SILENCE ANYONE WHO WILL STAND IN THE PATH OF GOD'S KINGDOM. . .LIKE I TOLD YOU WE WILL GIVE THEM PEACE FOR PEACE AND WAR FOR WAR *am trying real hard to recall some comments* IF YOU HEAR THEM SAYING EVIL ABOUT ME OR MY CHURCH GO AHEAD AND SLAP THEM".

When i heard this stuffs i was like hmmmmm Pastor J.M, not until my oldie told me he was now a bishop and that just last week he came and literally ordered his 'boys' to slap my oldie. . .at first i didnt believe it, but then this was coming from a man i have never heard him tell me a lie before infact i even saw the site on oldie's face (an old wrinkled face). I became furious and waited for the Bishop J.M's service to close that nite.Dont hate me for what i did. . .becos i know that Bishop was simply F.A.K.E and i pity his followers.

At the sharing of the grace, i walked straight into the premises and stood beside his 2008 Murano, when he came out, he recognised me and was trying to throw pleasantries, gooosh i didnt know how my fist got straight to his collars. . . the last i could remember was a hard rumble on his shirt with a warning. . .dont assault my friends again!

And then i turned around and left, i could hear his ushers and 'bodyguards' saying DADDY who was that man? should we let him go and stuffs like that.

To add:

- Bishop JM has vividly told his members not to come to any service with anything less that 200naira

- They dont put offerings in envelopes, he seats close to the contribution box and inspects the denom. to ensure his subjects follow his words

- He is always on shades. . . wonder if he's prolly high on stuffs. . . like they say "old habits never die easily"

- Donation days are held forthnightly.

gooosh i can go on and on to spit shits about this MOG. . . so i dont doubt anything the OP said.

As christian faithfuls we owe our families and friends the resp. of prayers to keep them away from evil.

Just like the Lord's prayer that says:
"Our Father . . . deliver us from evil" - Matt.6:13
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 12:56pm On Oct 27, 2010
OMgooosh where has Tonye been all this while?. . . what a full house filled with 'em sons of the hilarious prophet Mo  grin grin grin. . .I'll take you all thread by thread. . . this is getting real interesting  grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 5:57pm On Oct 11, 2010
And Baba Mo's stupidity continues. . .

When praying while standing, Satan puts doubts into the person (Haddith Volume 2, Book 22, Number 324) - Allah's Apostle said, "When anyone of you stands for the prayers, Satan comes and puts him in doubts till he forgets how many Rakat he has prayed. So if this happens to anyone of you, he should perform two prostrations of Sahu while sitting."
In a short comment. . .no moslem is allowed to stand while praying. . .for god's sake! was Baba Mo' ever in his senses at all?. . .well i stand to quote Prof.Rahilluh Sama a great moslem scholar saying "Allah has exalted Mohammed to be the only one to stand in spiritual meetings, for he alone is worthy" no wonder 100% of moslems feel so unworthily worthy of their worthiless religion.

everyone bow for prophet mohammed! grin grin everyone bow for the son of ruhullah!! grin grin everyone bow and see the rashes in his bombom!!! grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcWhat's Your Idea Of An Ideal Church? by Tonyet1(op): 5:45pm On Oct 11, 2010
One that gives back service to its community. . .i may be wrong!

lets know yours?
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 5:54pm On Oct 08, 2010
Mods pls dont delete my photos again!. . .hanhan wetin sef. . .i go ban una o grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Teachings About Shaitan (Satan). . .Just Too Hilarious! by Tonyet1(op): 5:50pm On Oct 08, 2010
And Baba Mo's stupidity continues. . .

4.522:  Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "When you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah's Blessings for their crowing indicates that they have seen an angel. And when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek Refuge with Allah from Satan for their braying indicates that they have seen a Shaitan."
buahahahahaha  grin grin

error 1: so Baba Mo' is now telling me Shaitan is not just one person, but many. . .i actually thought he said Jinns (demons) are Shaitan agents and that Shaitan is one person. so what does "a shaitan" mean in the Haddith quoted here?. . . hmmmm so there are many shaitans and many Jinns. . . no wonder Moslems sleep alot during their ablutions, prayers and greetings. (many shaitans to pee in their ears) . . .lol. . .Baba Mo must have had so much shekpe on daily routines.

error 2: Why should only donkeys see Satan? what then happens to the other animals. . .at least those within the donkey class and specie? why couldnt any other Moslem see Satans? 

error 3: At least a little science taught us that human and donkey eyes see the same wavelengths, more or less, so why can't we see them?  Even if the sight wavelengths are different, we should be able to see the Satans using IR or UV detection equipment. 

. . .some Islamic scholars said Baba Mo' often used some sort of ancient arabic telescope to sight satan, while his followers applaud him at the sight. . . .OMG my ribs are aching from laughter. ( i can quote them)

Baba Mo' was really a character!  grin grin grin grin

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