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chingydaboss:
God has vindicated the Man of God..

You don't know Nigeria Police and shifting allegiance depending on who will pay higher. The same with most of our Judges
It was better for her, she was not hunted down with thugs or juju -rized to death alias cursed to death as would have been the case with some other gospel merchants

All the 'ifs' and 'may' playing safe huh. Pressmen will always gather whenever there is a brown envelope to go round, it matters very little what information is passed across, It does not matter if God is mocked by these Gospel Merchants

e.g. 1.there is somebody here before the end of next year he may become the President of Nigeria. Let somebody shout Hallelujah

e.g. 2. I saw a balloon jumping inside the ocean. A prayer is needed , on Tuesday fast and pray. A shooting in American, a little boy with gun
e.g. 3. No member of our church shall die next year nor the year after, carry seed in your hands, rush to the altar, drop it. Give a seed you have never given before, sign the cheque. Try the god of this Ministry, the god of Daddy

Why should an intelligent woman allow herself to be used by con artists and magicians a.k.a Prophets to advertise the newly acquired tricks
Why should she allow herself to be subjected to such
Now that she vomited Key, gave birth to turtle and ridiculed in a national daily, the Prophet is happy and anticipatory of new members this Sunday morning with a guaranteed full entertainment

It is the same gang of Prophets whose activities are always predictable.
www.nairaland.com/1479564/avoid-these-nigerian-ghanian-pastors
Hoodwink people with some tricks, update tricks once every a year, invent oil, water, stickers, stones, wristbands and almanac, sell at affordable prices with attached promises of all the good things of life.
Collect seeds of all sorts, tithes and operation close your bank accounts for god. Guaranteed killing of all your enemies by fire, Shout fire 7 times. 'If I be a man of god all your enemies and competitors dies today'
Get one or two Nollywood entertainers to perform on Sundays or some selected shows. Get a Channel on strong decoder, pay actors to endorse the Channel and business continues
Gospel merchandise

antithreatz:
madam lily, so your husband (groom) must show his madness of naughtiness n haughtiness to the world, Eben to the elders n spiritual elders as well, even if not church, if he's ask to do so, at least for the sake of those sitting there and bride, he supposed to swallow his pride, so now he has to spoil his say and wife's coz of 50k, only 50k from long life journey of love he's going to V with his wife, in fact if I were to be brides parent, I can't low my daughter Marry such devil, that shows he won't listen to the poor girl after wedding, she would just turned her n her family a dummie after all..... Mind you, I'm not a celestial neither do I belong to such denomination but instructions from an elderly especially a day like that, worth consideration.

Satan is an elder after all no human was on earth before him, he is also a spiritual elder to many and according to you, one must show obedience under every circumstance. Little wonder some women were asked to stri p to get a special purity anointing and to return to the Church the next day with the life savings as seed

The pastor was sure the guy will not be a member and will instead pull the faithful lady out, or at least open her eyes to the bandage she has been in. So he plays his power game.

What's the big deal with a Pastor saying he will not wed them with such an excuse, Shoe? They still be husband and wife, I believe they've done the traditional wedding. If the prayers offered on that day by the both parents were not enough to join them any good Pastor can still offer them more prayer sessions.
It would have been better if like other fake prophets he had told them that god had a last minute change in plan and had shown him that the two of them can't be husband and wife

Sometimes there's bad motive and imprisoning incantations with the rituals. Why must I walk bare footed into a shrine, the Prophet will tell you that it is in the Bible. That Moses did that
I pity men whose mind has been caged by such Pastors or Prophets

vooks:
Show me the fruit of your life in Christ starting by how many have come to Christ through you and I will give your rant time in my busy study schedule

It usual to hear this statement from the competing empires. One million souls or membership under a hybrid gospel does not guarantee heaven.
The issue of heaven is a more serious business than the prosperity jamboree marketed and distributed. One danger with the Hybrid gospel is that it will eventually breed pseudo Christians whose hearts are set firmly in the love of the World as against the teachings of Christ not to love the world and the things of the world
In another place, it says the love of many for God will wax cold
It is already happening

IamDarlington:
OP can yu just leave bishop oyedepo alone and serve God? I've sensed how much it pinches yu seeing rich men of God.

What you've posted above shows ur belief that any rich pastor exploits his members. But sorry, that's a big lie!

Pastor Darlington which branch are you managing or facilitating?

'I cursed her this, cursed her marriage, her womb, her' It is obvious you have been sitting under those gospel merchants who claim to have spell casting abilities and boasting in the name of preaching how they have cursed many persons.

Sequel to this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/2700844/man-steals-oyedepo-runs-mad/5#39552523 It important to highlight some facts about the great man called Oyedepo
Bishop Oyedepo rules his empire by instilling fear and by intimidation. He often paints a picture of himself as a guard of Hell's gate with enormous powers to curse or bless people. Blessings for those committed financially to the expansion of his empire and curses for those who dare challenge his interpretations to scripture verses
He often applys physical assaults to ensure compliance with many agents of the State Security Services, the Police and top lawyers on his payroll. Sometimes he uses terminologies associated with occults or the more traditional Judaism like Covenant, Curse, Seed, Mantle, Portions of anointing, Cure, Psalms, Vengeance and brute force. Which mostly runs at variance with the teachings of Jesus
The fact is that Oyedepo has powers which has been usefully applied to disposses members of their finances. He is a master of such art and many of his branch managers are good students of his, often times he has been at loggerheads with his regional managers for remittances of money dispossessed from members to his HQ account. For those Regional heads who have grown not to fear his threats of curse, he took to court example his former Ghana manager. I guess he learnt some lessons from that with the introduction of some modifications. The UK branch is managed by his Son instead of an outsider who may one day fail to remit adequately millions in pounds extracted from African - immigrant coverts
The ingenuity of Bishop Oyedepo cannot be overlooked in the history of Hybrid Christianity. The American inventors of the Hybrid will envy his modifications, it could be someone's PhD thesis and a very good book for youths aspiring to start up empires like such.
I will not be in a haste to denounce Oyedepo as practicing some form of modified ancient arts as some have done, however, I have some strong reservations about his inventions vis a viz the teachings of Jesus Christ. I have no cause to fear or venerate Oyedepo as I can't share my reverence for God with any man. It is always about choices, someone says the Bishop is his God, another says no his is Ayo Oritsejafor, another says no the God he sees is Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and yet many others say it is Pastor E. A. Adeboye.

Bend it or modify it, the foundation of Christianity lies in the teachings of the Jesus and His Apostles it condones no modifications, no inventions, no parochial interpretations or denominations to it no matter the superiority of the argument

It isn't new
The men that stole from MKO back then and the 'Amadioha' also ran mad

E no easy to confess that kind thing. Bishop Wale Oke once confessed to his affair with his Secretary
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome and TB Joshua's confessions will 'strengthen' many issues.
We are told that God forgives 'true repentance' but has no delight in the haughty

Tithe is a law but was not given to Christians. Christians were encouraged to give to meet the needs and provisions of the poor brethren among them, some gave all cheerfully, seeing it was used for that purpose there was no coercion or excavation of Jewish laws that concerned money as done today by some criminally minded demi gods.
There were no record anywhere that a law was made for Christians on the percentage to be given neither from Jesus nor Peter n Paul.

One wonders why of all the Jewish laws they chose to burden their followers with only the aspects that deal with raw cash. They don't hold on to keeping Sabbath, offerings of doves for firstborn, rams and collections of farm produce, Levites should not run businesses or farms because they will live on the tithes of the items listed.
Pastors today run businesses, own farmlands, stockpile money, launder money and still want to be seen as Levites.
It is a question of people making laws and calling it God's. These days some have new additions to what sin is example wearing attachment, rubbing talc powder on the face, refusing to sow forced seeds, dressing neatly and marriage outside their enclaves are all sins.
I can give any percentage of my income for a worthy course that is clearly defined. The decision of what to give will not be forced on me by any pastor whose delight is in harvesting Jewish laws to suit his purpose.

Most decisions people undertake these days were imposed on them by wicked Pastors and Jesus is far from the picture. Greed, avarice, covetousness and Satan will always provide the impetus for manipulating the Bible for that purpose

Somewhere else Jim Baker says
" The more I studied the Bible, however, I had to admit that the prosperity message did not line up with the tenor of Scripture. My heart was crushed to think that I led so many people astray. I was appalled that I could have been so wrong, and I was deeply grateful that God had not struck me dead as a false prophet!
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Waiting for Oyedepo, Oyakhilome and Co.

Who is Jim Baker? An American televangelist who peddled prosperity message in the 60s, 70s and 80s making so much money from collecting seeds with a promise of people reaping into his covenanted abilities to make the seed sowers automatically rich. However, he was not able to convince the Federal investigations that his new found wealth were not without fraudulent dealings with the blessing seekers and was subsequently sentenced to jail. While in prison he re-evaluated the scriptures and discovered that Prosperity Preaching is as good as Advanced fee fraud a.k.a 419 and remained at variance with the salvation message of Jesus Christ

vooks:
Are they mutually exclusive, interceding and exposing works of darkness?

Now this is one area men who help Satan to kill and steal souls would prefer to keep people bound. It sounds so nice and deceptively religious to hear fake preachers who churn out all manner of teachings say " instead of exposing my false teachings, pray for me, the same way I don't use my podium to expose any false preacher " A false preacher always feels like tearing away some passages of the Bible, like the fact that Jesus exposed the Pharisees for whom they are and passages that say have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them
What this does is that captives like Gombs, look the other way when they hear and see things that are not in consonant with the Bible perpetuated by their lords.

Loves world is a sect no true Christian will be comfortable with. I am speaking from experience, usually when you are there you conscience keeps telling you that something is not right here. One may choose to suppress that and continue with the it doesn't matter teachings, others pray they never repeat a visit to those centers

It is either Pastor Chris is right with his teachings/lifestyle and Jesus Christ is wrong or that Jesus is wrong and Chris Oyakhilome is right. This is because there are wide differences between what Jesus teaches and what Pastor Chris does
I am hoping that Pastor Chris will one day repent and retrace his steps starting from his ties with Snr. Prophet TB Joshua

fonzie2u:
I attended their service as a first timer,after the introduction, we were led to another hall there a brother asked us if we culd speak in tongues,for those who said no,they were led to another brother.
This brother quoted somewhere in the bible nd said he would teach us how to speak in tongues,he said speaking in tongues won't let anyone know what u saying
He also said he would continually teach us how to speak in tongues. He wanted to place his hand on my head,I refused and walked out.
In as much as I am not a bible scholar, I know this is false teaching( the little knowledge I know is when speaking in tongues there must b an interpreter its a message not a language
2) You dont teach people the holy spirit does.
And this issue of cell leader is confusing. The brother also said we cannot approach the pastor directly.

Loves World alias CEC is not the only cult organization imprisoning youths, dispossessing them of their earnings, creating a faked feelings of well-being, comfort and all sufficiency, ultimately leading many to destruction. The Bible foretold of many false teachers and prophets in the end time who will masquerade as Angels
I am convinced that Loves World will be exposed for what it is - a faked Christianity spreading faked Gospel

osmosis2015:
Prophet TB Joshua is real man of God, he is so gentle, generous and helps the poor.

My dear, the elements of a real man of God are not in the things you listed. It does not even lie on the miracles and performances on stage otherwise Satan would have been the greatest man of God.
A good and powerful wizard can bring solutions to people's problem sometimes at no apparent cost. They can even bring glory to God indirectly
The bottom line is that they never lead anybody to the path of truth, righteousness and holy living. They cage people in fear, if it is not your mother, it is your father that is after your life or the cockroach, rats and lizards in your compound wants to kill you. They captivate people with performances, hypnosis if I may say while forcing their anti-bible teachings(occultic arts) to be accepted as normal
"Shine your eyes, all that glitters..."

rman:
Idah Peterside is a liar and an attention seeker/scammer looking for ways to make gullible people throng to his church.
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I thought as much, Peterside Ida is and has remained an occultic like most of these generation of Prophets in his camp. Together with his friend Chris Okafor, they always come up with interviews to lure the gullible. "I was bad, now I am good, I was broke now I am rich and saved, thank you Jesus"
What is he trying to tell us about TB Joshua? Is it not clear the connection between these prophets and promiscuity - initiations, power, fame and promotions in occultism

Only a man devoid of understanding will fall cheaply for interviews like this one. Peterside and his group of false prophets should thank God for being patient in his judgement of fakes. However, that grace is not indefinite, a day of reckoning for fake and cunning Prophets will come

Extortionists!!!
This is how it works, first build an image of a powerful spokesman for God, feed the congregation with fear of you especially the consequences of disobeying your directive to sow seeds for the propagation of faked Gospel

Next, threaten them with a curse and delusional possession of Keys to Hell's Gate. Coerce them to part with their property now and expect a blessing later. Warn them that failure to receive blessing after giving is their fault (Disclaimer ), and their lack of faith

This was not how Jesus operated. It is certainly a different Gospel and am not surprised when some persons come with the message of seeing these men in Hell. Now, that is predictable based on the antecedents of the extortionists

pretydiva:
D end shal tell. Let's keep our fingers crossed

You don't wait till the end to know with the life of extortion and arrongance, occult practices which are contrary to the teachings of Christ. Lies and promotion of money worship that most of these men except they REPENT before they die will not smell paradise. And the little girl message is just a call for repentance

Frankmishael I have told you to leave Loves World and the jamboree it represents. It will do you a lot of good

ChokolateBoss:
I respect pple and their faiths too. As xtians, I wish we could be more ecumenical instead of spreading hatred ignorance and bias. I've seen pure undiluted hatred from some xtians simply because u believe sth different. That pure hate thing is plain scary. And how quick they demonize others. Some pple stubbornly hold on to irrational beliefs even when clear facts are presented.

SDA = Seventh Day Adventists

The book of Genesis is a spiritual book just like most spiritual literature are filled with figuratives that can only be deciphered through the help of the source of the inspiration behind it.
The 6 days of creation cannot be 6 days as we have today.
There are ample evidence that the earth and the universe existed very long before man. That the earth has hosted animals of all sorts over millions of real years. That Homo sapiens( present man) has been around for about 6000 years only. Escavations and dating done so far has consistently shown Man of the range of 4000years and above. There is no known datings of Homo sapiens escavated or ice preserved of years exceeding the Chronology of about 6000 years depicted in the Bible.
Man therefore, is not a product of any evolution from animals and monkeys. Science will continue to search for a missing link which will surely elude it. Here it is, In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth( Full stop) Now the earth was void ...
The missing years lies between The periods of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 The missing link and all the animals/monsters were lost in whatever befell the earth that necessitated the recreation of Earth in Genesis 1:2 and subsequent placing of man to subdue the earth
In all, Science and religion have a complementary role in explaining the mystery called Man

ladon1:
Its so disheartning how so many churches in Nigeria are filled with false and quacked preachers. Its a resemblace of the state of the jewish nation in the days of jeremaiah.
Imagine going to church all the way from isolo to oregun on a sunday hoping to be edified and what the pastors climb the pulpit to preach is how to do business.
Churches in Nigeria had now turn into a place of manchadise and because people no longer endure sound doctrine, it makes the people so easy to deceive.
No wonder sin is abounding every where with too many half baked christians

The Bible says that because Lawlessness will abound the love of many for God will grow cold. False Prophets are not only milking the gullible( who walked into their den) dry but they are also turning the hearts of many Christians to idolatrous practices
Others are discouraged by the seemingly delay in God's disapproval of the lawlessness and had resorted to questioning the existence of God

Emperor4God:
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Many people do not know that Winners Chapel aka Living Faith have buildings designed to glorify Satan

The designs may not matter but I feared the attitude and goals of the mission has a different gospel from what Jesus taught. Oyedepo is not my standard for what Jesus looks like in his present state. He is not the same Oyedepo that wrote wonderful Christian books. I do not want to believe he has been practicing some form of occultism and incantations all along . Of late, much careless, arrogant talks/actions have been credited to him
A message centered on money, finances and sow seed as you never sown before to get rich quick is not The Gospel. So I'd rather AVOID WINNERS CHAPEL

Kingdom Solution Ministries Inc( a.k.a Fire Arena). Prophet and Pastor Mrs.
Counseling days: Mon - Fri
To see man of God one on one Wed 9 am - 4 pm
Consultation fee N1000
Come with sand from your Father's compound for breakthrough prayers, also come with a bottle of water

azubyky:
If people are not experiencing God through the teaching of raw bible faith from bishop oyedepo winners will not have d bigest congregation in the world today. No be science na grace

That is not a Criteria. In Revelations, the Anti-Christ (the Beasts Representative ) was able to gather a large followership out of which were drawn 200 million soldiers who gathered to battle Zion. The followers of the beast also experienced God (signs and wonders if that is what you meant ) because we were told that much power was given to the Beast
The Criterion is avoiding the use of the Bible for self-serving interests and extortions. Teaching the Bible without twisting any passage to suit popular demands

That's right.
He is not connected to Prophet Joshua. TB Joshua does not use power ring and necklace in his performance whereas Ida Peterside belongs to the camp of prophets that hold their gold necklace and ring very dear to their operations
TB Joshua does not attach dr to his name where as Ida's camp has a lot of Apostle(Dr) and Prophet(Dr.) Sign Wonder, the Elijah of our time appendage
Beware of wolves in sheep clothing, that can't lead anybody to heaven. Beware of adulterated Christianity. Beware of places with tags and promises of final bustop signs, wonders and talknado

Is anything difficult for the Lord
If She says God
I repent of being part of the brand that infiltrated your beloved Church with anything-goes gospel that included mastur.bation is no sin
I repent for being part of the deep rooted pretences all these years, when I knew all was not well I confessed all was well.
Lord I didn't approve of my husband's meeting with a Nigerian Prophet who has been accused of forcing carnal relationship with female workers of his Church. Now my husband, Pastor Chris is accused of the same
Lord answer my prayers concerning my husband Pastor Chris, that he will live and practice what the Bible teaches. That he separates what he thinks from what the Bible teaches. I pray he realizes how much I loved him and how much bad influence some associations could have on him
Grant the skimpy dressed , seducing Sisters in and around White House a husband of their own. Thanks for providing Sinach with a home of her own
Lord, I pray for strength to raise my daughters in your fear, to locate a bible teaching Church near by. Will it please you if I joined Deeper life here in London ?
I will make Heaven, I am willing to cut off any part of my body that is stubbornly against that. I will bless the Lord at all times

Don't look far for the Bible verse justifying the extortion. It is called the Prophet's fee
It is culled from the Old testament one does not go before a seer empty handed. A seer! That's what they are, they invested time and energy to learn the art, most from Shrines and happening temples as far as India, Bangladesh and Nepal; as near as Ghana, Togo and Libya the go in search of the profiting spells
So they must recoupe their investments by any means possible. Warfare seed, No more sickness seed, get husband seed, get car seed, general offering, special offerings, evangelism support offerings, mission offering, project offering, faith seed offering all on a Sunday worship

A notorious spiritualists has a large image of a man on her fence another on her spiritual table very close to her candles and big Bell. That Jesus looked so much like Bob Marley, funny enough people came to her temple with testimonies that Jesus is good.
She later repented, confessed that her ministry practices are close to Christianity but is not Christianity

Equado:
God bless!!!

Amen, Bless you too.
There is no hiding place for Occult men masquerading as God's mediators on earth. They are constantly exposed because a bad tree cannot bear good fruits, by their fruits we shall know them. However, false teachers are also permitted to have Students (the foolish Virgins who will only realize their lamps lacked oil at the late hour)