maximunimpact:

There is really no place 4 u in this world of fantasy u ar talkin abt. U ar hardworking right? I can't say u ar because u ar d one sayin it, no secondary confirmation. But even if u ar, I dnt tnk ur hardwork pays. Somtin must really be wrong somwher wit u. Wat is hardwork witout opportunity? Am sure u ar a stranger 2 dat word.

U ar so full of ursef like dat rich fool dat beliv so much in his hardwork, I tnk u may knw wat happened 2 him, and hw God reacted 2 his pride. U ar reaally riskin his fate.

Wat abt grace? Do u still knw abt dat? It is not he dat willeth, or he dat runneth, but it is God that shows mercy.

U will nva bulge because u ar so obsessed wit ur hardwork, u cudnt av knwn de hw opportunity and grace com in2 play in success.

U ask who am I? Truth is u don't knw me, n I don't brag abt my fame in a social media like u, a lot of ppl will agree wit d fact dat u av been spoon fed all ur life, I don't tnk u av eva been der on ur own, dats y u open ur gates anyhw and brag abt hardwork.

This thrend isn't 4 u, so go away to the crime and non-celebrity section, dats were u belong, or the romance section, u need it too, but just go away and stay away!

I stopped reading your post after the first sentence; whatever language you are typing, I don't understand and won't waste my time trying to decipher. I've given my advice and a lot of my opinion on the matter and it seems you want to remain in a position of servitude, screaming about the injustice of life. So be it. I wish you nothing but good luck in whatever it is you do.

emiye: I am over 90% sure , it is a lie, but rare exceptions could be the fellows department has not been accredited by relevant university's supervisory commissions (NUC).

You can approach the school and verify if they have graduated sets of students over the last few years from the individuals department.

Emiye, you're awesome! Thank you so much for the reply; I've been dreading it but I'm going to take your advice and get verification from the school. Deep down I know the answer but want to remove all doubt. Thanks again!

maximunimpact:

In d real world, sentiments apart ppl like u thrive and stand tall above everyone else. The reason is not that u ar so hardworking, but because u understand d battle of d survival of d fitest, were the strong prey on d weak, u ar bound to be a success.

Yes in d real world ders no room 4 sympathy, emparthy, pity or remorse or anytin like dat, as long as u av som buks u gat 2 tnk u ar hardworkin. U ar a realist......yes I say so.....but if I may ask u a question....wat xatly do u live 4? Frm ur coments, it seems u ar a lawyer or sort of.....legal practitioner, and maybe one day u will av d guts to call ursef a human right activist, but I assure u, in d real world wch u tnk u belong, there is morality, there is conscience, there is been considerate, there is justice and equity and there is decency.........unfortunately 4 u, all diz ar lackin in ur perversed mind, all I can read frm ur coments is all abt ur hardwork.......but wat if ur hardwork is not apropriately reworded.......can u still be a realist.

These guys(support staff) work harder dan u, dey work der ass each day 2 giv d bank an image! D Image dat ppl lik u will really apreciate but will look d oda way wen it comes 2 makin doz plastic smiles u see 2 really com frm d heart.

Its a gud tin u ar hardworkin, but I hardly tnk u ar.............ur self professd hardwork is more of ego.....but am sure u also knw dat change is inevitable.........one day u will find ursef in position were ur hardwork is not apreciated, den u will really knw wat d op is talkin abt.

Perharps u av no conscince, dat makes u even mor dangerous, as u will always defend criminals, smuglers, fraudsers, unjust employers and d likes of u in court because all u care abt is makin sure dat d weak remains opressed. But the gud news is dat we still av ppl wit conscience in this thrend, only u cannot be right.

That's reality above, as u really wnt 2 be a realist!

You've gone out of your way to make assumptions about a complete and total stranger. Whether you believe it or not, I work hard. No matter what you think, most people within an organization work hard for their bread and butter. It may not be the unglamorous work that support staff does but most work hard. If we are talking reality, my job is to find weakness in my opponent's approach and rectify things to the benefit of my side. Our support staff is there to offer...believe it or not...SUPPORT because my job is far more specialized and requires attention to certain details, while support staff usually handles more mundane, general tasks. Without my role, there would be no need for support staff in our office and without support staff, my work wouldn't be as well put together as our clients require. Is it fair that I get paid more than them? Depends on who you ask but my additional years of training doesn't hurt. (Also, please note some lawyers never set foot in a courtroom and the legal profession is not as fast-paced as it is shown on TV. In fact, it's mostly reading. )

As you keep harping about reality, do you sit around crying for the people that applied for the job you currently hold? What makes you think YOU deserved the job over them? I'll tell you what: your experience and education. If you truly believe that someone cannot have something unless they prey on the weak, I'd love to read on Monday that you have tendered your resignation at your place of employment, given up your home and belongings and become an ascetic...but I won't because you deserve the rewards of your hard work. Just as I do.

Whether you like it or not, I have a right to take pride in my accomplishments just as much as the next person. You have to be a sick person to deduce from my few posts that I want to keep the weak oppressed...seriously, who are you and how do you lack basic reading comprehension? Not only that but you think I should strive to call myself a human rights activist? Again, who are you? Tell me: what have YOU done to provide succor to your fellow man? Don't worry about my pockets; worry about yours. I'm not here to make people feel bad but to help them understand that the professional world can be a cold place but there are ways to survive without comprising your morals.

There is no shame in being a realist: it doesn't mean you lack empathy, sympathy or kindness for those that life is unjust towards. It just means you understand that not everyone can live a charmed life. Not everyone will have wealth. Some will find life harder than others and as sad as it is, people continue to fall into the Us v. Them trap. I am idealistic enough to believe that everyone deserves a chance to prove their worth. As I stated in a previous post, if your current place is not fulfilling your needs, make the necessary changes. If your employer still doesn't budge, look for a new place. (Obviously, secure the new job before quitting the one you have!) But sitting around grumbling? That's what they want...to keep you feeling helpless. You power comes when you realize they need you more than you need them.

yetseyi:


I thought they said HND and BSc are equivalent

My understanding is that HND is a certificate that amounts to the completion of the 2 out of 3 years needed to earn a Bachelor's. So, no, they are NOT equivalent, no matter how loudly people say otherwise.

missade: @travelista, the point is not that they should be paid same as the "core" staff but that there should be a form of progress and improvement for "support staff"
And empathy doesn't mean the coy should hold their hands or be their friends; it simply mmeans the coy should be humane.
And all that talk of u "working hard"?! Those HND peeps work harder.
When replying, try not to sound condescending, he is very literate and its just a pity that he was born in a country where ppl such as u can't see beyond their own botttoms. Sounds cruel... But also true.
So, pls get it together!

I agree, there should a path that allows for an employee to work their way up the corporate ladder. BUT, the OP was talking about how IBplc (their former employer that also happens to be a bank that is now out of business) allowed for such opportunities and their new employer does not. Why cry about what cannot be under the current circumstance?

I've already addressed the issue of the bankers that passed away in another thread (again, one of SEVERAL scattered across the board); tell me: what do YOU think Access Bank should have done? Closed business for the day? Been the chief mourner at the funeral? Demand that all employees wear black for a specified period of mourning? I'm not being facetious but what do you expect a BUSINESS to do in situations like these outside of a formal letter of condolence to the families of the deceased? If you think they (or any business) will readily offer financial compensation without a court being involved, I have beachfront property to sell you in Abuja.

I stated that the grunt work was left to support staff; that happens everywhere. I work hard. I don't always have weekends to relax. My nights can be interrupted because a client needs advice like yesterday. Even though I have vacation time, I can have a holiday interrupted because a client comes first; this doesn't happen to support staff. If it does, they need to reconsider their place of employment, demand a raise or both.

As for being condescending...where? Him being born in Nigeria is not the problem because as I keep stating over and over, that is how business works. The sooner people understand this, the better they will be able to play the game. Let me be frank, and I hope you actually let what I type sink in: the corporate world can be a very cruel place. Show any weakness and you will be trampled upon. It's not fair (because life isn't) but trying your best to improve on YOUR skills will make the difference in how your current/future employer views you. If you are a contract employee and believe you should be treated as a core staff member...well, good luck on THAT because you are setting yourself up for a lot of heartache.

Codedeben: Part of the people drawing us back in this country. So you didnt see the part where the writer complained how the management handled the loss of some members of staff? wait make i ask u, if dt person wey die na ur brother u go talk this trash wey u talk? so because u're doing fine u think say na by your might? so for your egocentric mind u think the difference between Core Staff and the Support staff in some of this corporate organizations na "CERTIFICATE"?

Your post disgustingly reek of condescending attribute, which shouldnt be heard of, at least not from someone who stays in this country and knows what graduates pass through.

I saw where the poster complained about how the company reacted to the deaths of employees; in fact, I responded in one of the numerous threads started about IBplc v. Access Bank and offered condolences and said the families could file wrongful death suits if they felt Access was at fault. You don't have to like what I wrote but it doesn't make it any less true: your employer is not your friend and never will be (no matter how nicely they may treat you). You, as an employee, are disposable; this applies from the very top, all the way to the very bottom. HOWEVER, some are more expendable than others.

If you actually read my post that you quoted, you'd see I graduated from law school; if you think that my hard work does not factor into the corporate positions I have earned, then you are only fooling yourself. Are there situations when an under-qualified person is in a position that is too advanced for them? Of course, it happens! Are there times that an overqualified person is in a position they could do in their sleep? Of course! But, for the latter, why accept a position and then turn around and complain about it? Either speak up to those that matter or find a place that suits your needs and nurtures your talents. Though easier said than done, it CAN be done. Think of it as survival of the fittest; keep pushing and you will get what you desire.

Your post sounds like you begrudge the success of others and that's fine; call me condescending, a snob, whatever makes you feel better but the fact remains: only YOU can make yourself better suited for your position at work, in life, in relationships, etc. Expecting life to bend and break to suit your needs is an futile endeavor.

To be fair, one doesn't have to be in Nigeria to know that complaints like those expressed by the OP are universal: I worked for a multinational before I branched out on my own and we had a receptionist that was constantly complaining about how even junior associates were allowed to have long lunch breaks, come in later and work from home. I jokingly warned her that if she had any issues with the workplace, she should address it privately with HR. Well, she didn't heed my advice and was eventually fired because she complained more than she worked and brought down morale amongst support staff. What she (and many others like her) don't understand is that those they feel are given better treatment put in sweat equity in other ways. We worked a minimum of 60 hours a week, were not eligible for overtime, were required to be available for calls at 3am because a client was in Hong Kong and wanted us to participate in a conference call, the list goes on.

I feel sorry for you if you think people like me are drawing Nigeria back; being logical and understanding that business is not sentimental is how economies flourish.

Yes, it's possible to see your period twice in a month. As long as it is not a routine thing, she should be fine. If it is a common occurrence, she needs to book an appointment with her Gynecologist and see about getting on birth control pills to regulate her cycle.

Jaynec: you are a big fool. All my family wants is a gud life for him. I was even planning to takecare of his education.

I'm a fool but you're taking medicine for another person's headache. Instead of pretending that you have anything going on in your life, get a job, get a life and get a man because you if you even had one of those, you wouldn't have the time to complain about your brother getting married and starting a family. Of all things to be upset about! Instead of 'planning to takecare of his education', why don't you give that money to your struggling father? You're all looking to chop from your brother's prospect and you're mad he's got a wife and kid that will (rightfully) come first. Nonsense.

yellowpawpaw: Poster,I can't c any disappointment instead all I c is bleeeeesing!!!
Why r u embittered that ur bro gave a woman belle at 24? Assuming he is 17 yrs nko?
If I were u, I will gladly welcome d lady.
We will go and do intro and court wedding sharp sharp. She will come and live with us. As we hustle for daily living, she will join hand(unless she is d type pregnancy de disturb well well). We drink garri, she drinks with us. After giving birth and nursing, all hands must be on deck. Wait a minute, ur bro looks very promising and having a wife and a kid will make him to try more.
Give them ur blessing jor! ( This ur mindset no gel at all).
In a civilised society, a 24yrs old is a complete adult!
Tell us when she born o!

And the brother being promising may be the cause of their 'disappointment': a wife and baby reduce the amount that brother can give them; OP's posts have been nothing but selfish and she lied from jump. She doesn't even know the girl and has painted her as some barely literate, old maid when it turns out the girl is her brother's age mate. Wouldn't be surprised to find the girl is also a student and/or working.

He obviously cares for the girl as he is still there with her and avoiding his meddling family.

I'm being very serious: is your wife a nurse?

Your friend should let the fiancée go; goodness knows she'll be better off without such a loser. Had she been yoked to him, he'd likely start cheating on her with the girl that left him in the lurch. And out of curiosity, how sure is your friend that the girl abroad doesn't have someone else? As for Ms. Returnee...good luck to her because I wouldn't want to be with a man that could be so cruel to a woman he claims to love. It means he is fickle and can't be trusted.

Is Ms. Returnee based abroad by any chance? As for you, OP, my advice is for you to stay as far out of this as possible because when it hits the fan, you don't want to be pointed out as someone that knew the groom's intentions and kept quiet.

Jaynec: you talk according to ur level of understanding. I can neva be in such position .24yrs old undergraduate ,he doesnt even know his left frm right. He may abandon d girl 2morow cos of exposure later in life.

Never say never.

Jaynec: Let me answer your questions. Am a medical lab scientist, i finished 2010, am working in a govt hospital. I have plans to further my studies n i dont want anything to deter my dreams n reputation. My bro made a mistake, but i would nt let him suffer . He still have along way to go.

What's wrong with you? You're actually sitting here and referring to your brother's child (that shares your own blood) as a 'mistake'? Have you even asked your brother how he feels about the mother of his child? Again, his responsibility is to his wife and child...not you or anyone else. He's a father now and to ask him to run away from his obligations due to selfish reasons is wrong. How you think your brother choosing a wife and having a child deters your dreams and/or reputation beyond me but here you are making such a claim.

You've been asked over and over in this thread and not answered once: what if the roles were reversed? What if YOU were in the young mother's position? Would you be happy to know that your in-laws want your husband to abandon you and your child? Offer your brother support but realize it. Is. Not. Your. Business.

The Catholic Church has always allowed for annulments; it's not a recent development.

Some people do it so their child have a certain passport (really only works in a few places), because they can afford to do so and because they have reservations about mother and baby receiving sufficient medical care in Nigeria.

I would have my kids somewhere fun like Thailand, India or Argentina.

Where are you parents because it's for them to deal with their child and not you. If your brother doesn't listen to your parents, then NLer advice is not going to do anything, either. You should let him know that one day he will meet someone bigger and badder than himself and will be handled appropriately.

Only a slowpoke would compare a state to a country and seeing as that is what the OP did, his entire post is moot.

What's the real issue: that bro was irresponsible, got a woman pregnant and is trying to do the right thing OR that there are two additional mouths to feed on his paltry salary? Think really hard about this because you mention your father not having much money and it seems you lot are looking at your brother as a potential source of income. NEWSFLASH: he's not responsible for your welfare; your parents are. He's responsible for his wife and child.

Girl, what exactly are you doing with your life that your brother's choices are your personal headache?? Have YOU finished school? Are YOU working? Do YOU have a relationship? If not, I suggest you get on the path to adulthood. Get to know the mother of your niece/nephew and be respectful and see about getting your own life.

Dis Guy:

i keep reading things like these, is this a way to console ourselves in nigeria?

Some may take it as consolation but it's still true no matter how you slice it. Don't you realize had SA attained independence when the rest of Africa did, they'd be in the same boat infrastructure-wise?

SA should be ashamed to brag about this generic mess of a square.

Alfa Seltzer:

Well if people are depending their faith on the reaction of others, sarcasm should be their last worry.

The OP has to be a troll and the self-righteous are perfect targets. I'm not interested in the original post but asking about your mention of the entire world fighting Nazism.

Why is this complaint being posted over and over? Stop comparing your new employer to the old one (that failed). So, you don't get a birthday cake? You're at work to work; you can celebrate on your free time or, better yet, the support staff can chip in and buy cakes for their coworkers.

Core staff and support staff are not the same: most companies work to keep their core employees while support staff is seen as expendable. Sounds harsh but it's true.

Why should someone have a Bsc and be treated equally with someone that has an HND? I worked hard, double majored and got into law school and graduated; there is no way on earth a corporation would agree to offer me a package they offered to someone in a support role. If you're so 'literate', go back to school and upgrade your degree because the real world is not going to slow down or downgrade their standards to appease you.

Businesses (banks included) are open to make money. Support and contract staff traditionally do the majority of the lifting and get paid the least. You can't expect a professional or core staff member to spend their day answering phones, counting money or typing letters; that grunt work...and that's where support staff comes to the rescue.

I'm seeing a lot of whining in this thread and very little, if any, is justified. Your employer only employees you: they don't have to be your friend, hold your hand, celebrate or commiserate with you. Do that on your personal time. Don't like it? Get another job or research what it takes to join those you feel are treated better. I know this doesn't sound nice but that is how things work everywhere.

Alfa Seltzer:

Yes, like when the whole world fought against nazism.

Are you being sarcastic?

Sorry to hear about the deaths of your coworkers; terribly sad state of affairs.

Now, here's something you may not want to read but it's truth and may help to put a few things into perspective:

1. According to your post, IBplc was taken over by Access Bank. As an IBplc employee (core or support), a person would be lucky to still have their job. In takeovers/mergers, the company that was taken over almost always gets the short end of the stick; this means, unless stipulated in the documentation that allowed for the acquisition and/or merger in the first place, your jobs is not guaranteed. If any wants to be angry, their wrath should be directed at the former leaders of IBplc.

2. Access Bank does not have to offer room for growth to former IBplc workers. Access has employees they hired using their own hiring practices; they come first. Don't like it, find another job.

3. As for being terminated for the slightest infraction: remember that Access took over physical branches but they may not need all of the employees acquired from IBplc. Again, making a mistake may look like you shouldn't have been hired in the first place. I know the excuse is flimsy but, again, they don't have to keep on people they did not vet themselves.

4. I don't even know how to address you blaming Access for the death of employees. If the families of the deceased believe that death was caused by actions made/taken by Access, they can file a lawsuit. Other than that, no business is going to offer money without being asked/forced.

5. Again, Access did not have to keep IBplc employees on payroll. Asking workers to stay late is the norm especially after a major takeover. As there lapses during the transition period, it is only fair that things get back to normal as soon as possible; that usually means someone is going to be burning the midnight oil and as IBplc was taken over, their held over workers get to do the grunt work.

6. No one from the former IBplc or Access Bank has to show up for the funerals; would it have been nice to show solidarity at such a time? Of course but it is a personal choice as to whether one attends such events. Outside of the branch where the deceased worked, no one else should be expected to beat their chests and pull out their hair. Access Bank is your employer and NOT your relative. As long as they pay you, they don't owe you anything else.

7. Core staff and support staff are not the same thing nor do they share the same duties; why should support staff be afforded the same benefits of core staff? You're complaining about not receiving nursing mother benefits even though your were paid during your maternity?! Amazing. Here, maternity leave is unpaid.

8. The more I read, the more irritated I am becoming with the author of this piece. Unless the professional, core and support staff all have the same level of degree, the complaints should just end. Why should someone put in the time to earn a higher degree only to earn the pay money and benefits as someone that has a lower level degree?

I can't even continue...this person was kept following a takeover and still complains. I must need a nap because this whole piece is just full of whining for no justifiable reason.

Cheer up, upgrade your degree and try again. If Access still won't give you a chance, look elsewhere. Good luck.

omoalayo: Are U in america...@topic...this is d result of Gej chat with Obama..hpe it yield a gud result..

Yep

Bump

So, we're worried about Boko Haram (in a country an ocean away) but not about the lax gun laws or lunatics in the military stateside? Talk about inspecting the dust in a neighbor's eye when you have a log of wood in your own.

Do Nigerian universities often seize degrees even if you have completed the work? I know someone that graduated (according to them) several years ago but they keep saying the university hasn't released their final result. This means they can't get (and keep) a job that requires a degree. I understand Nigeria can be tough but this person has asked for money several times to pay to get the results released and still nothing.
We've approached the matter different ways to arrive at the truth but we keep getting the same answer. Personally, I think the person never graduated and is happy to sit at home doing nothing and that would be alright EXCEPT we are left footing the bill and I'm ready for us to cut the purse strings.

Please let me know if situations like these actually occur and what the remedy is; I hate feelings of suspicion but my instincts are normally right and I don't want to continue to support someone based on lies. Sorry if I didn't provide enough information in the initial post; let me know and I'll clarify where I can.

Allow?! She doesn't need your permission.

Where is he getting the money to buy soccer teams?

I clicked on the link expecting to see pictures of the wedding but I guess that would be too much to ask? I did see a link to some of the wedding guests and if that's anything to go by, no wonder people had something to say!

Either way, congrats to the newlyweds!

Big girls can afford to pay their way and do so often.
Big girls don't wait for loser boyfriends to catch up...they realize dead weight when they see it and don't lose an moment's sleep.
Big girls don't play games because time is money.
Big girls don't entertain petty squabbles with other females; if a bird wants to squawk, let her squawk and walk on.

buchito1: Y dos kelly always do the opposite??
People arre opening bars nd hotel nd louges,
While hez opening a beauy sallon
Dis maks me tink hez GAY !

If he's gay and opening a hair salon, he should be ashamed of himself for hanging an orange mirror on a red wall; talk about a color riot and a jarring experience. The palette is far from relaxing, imo.