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slydog:
Good idea... you once mentioned homeschooling, what about setting up a home sch or daycare, restaurant is good too but one needs to buy a franchise and capital is much. I'm looking for something for steady cashflow

still on your question/that line of thought, do you or anyone on here have some insights on freight business, even if it's a small scale at first...aside cost, are there major barriers to entry?

This is both a suggestion to slydog, and a question to him and others.

NL apc faction needs this more. That can share the bag, and will be happy to, as it will go a long way to alleviate their in-the-closet suffering.. lol

Jackiedemie:
Farooq just aligned with my position now:

The BBC's fact-check of the claims of Tinubu's certificate forgery has changed the conversation. Here's my analysis of the evidence. Plus, an analysis of claims that Atiku also forged his school cert:

Neither Tinubu Nor Atiku Forged Credentials with INEC
By Farooq A. Kperogi
Twitter: @farooqkperogi

The storm over the legitimacy of the credential President Bola Tinubu submitted to INEC has managed to rope in former Vice President Atiku Abubakar who instigated it in the first place. But available facts show that neither of them presented forged documents to INEC.

I go where the facts lead me. That means I could say the opposite of what I said earlier in light of new facts, a reason I advisedly used the expression “the best obtainable version of the truth” in last week’s column. I am not invested in any perspective. Tinubu is an unrelieved catastrophe as a president, but I'll defend the facts even if they favor him.

Here are 7 facts I've found so far after reading and rereading all the facts related to this issue:

1. Tinubu attended and graduated from Chicago State University in 1979, was issued a diploma (or a certificate, to use the expression that’s familiar to Nigerians), which he collected (I erred when I thought the registrar said he didn't; See number 3). Apparently, he lost the original diploma in 1979 and was issued a "replacement diploma dated 27 June 1979," according to the BBC.

2. In the 1990s, he applied for and got a replacement diploma from CSU. Ostensibly, because it looks different from his 1979 diploma (since diplomas bear the signatures of the current president and look like the diplomas issued that year), he got a note from the CSU registrar in 1999 affirming that he indeed graduated from the school in 1979.

3. He lost the original copy of the 1990s replacement diploma (but has a photocopy of it) and, in the 2000s, applied for yet another replacement diploma, which the university issued, but which he didn't collect. I mistook the registrar's reference to this bit during the deposition as him saying that Tinubu did not collecting his 1979 diploma. My apologies.

4. In 2022, Tinubu submitted a photocopy of the 1990s replacement diploma, along with the 1999 "To Whom It May Concern" note from the CSU Registrar, to INEC as the academic credential that qualifies him to run for president.

5. Opposition politicians saw it and said it wasn't similar to diplomas CSU issued in 1979. So, they said it's fake.

6. BBC's Disinformation Team fact-checked the claim and found that it's not fake. It appears fake only because it was reissued in 1998 and the university's logo at the bottom of the diploma was chopped off during photocopying. The BBC says every other detail in the diploma is similar to the diplomas CSU issued or reissued in 1998.

7. The registrar disavowed the photocopied INEC diploma during deposition because of the absence of the logo of the university at the bottom of the diploma, but even he hinted that it "was possibly 'cut off' when it was photocopied." So, it was actually a conditional disavowal.

The Foundation for Investigative Journalism (FIJ) attempted to impeach the credibility of the BBC fact check but failed.

The FIJ said, "Of particular interest was the expression, ‘with honors’, which appeared on the certificate Tinubu submitted to INEC. The presence of ‘with honours’ in Tinubu’s certificate is a tautology because the certificate goes on to read, 'with all the rights, honours, and privileges partaining therto'.[sic]. None of the 1990s samples provided by CSU showed those words underneath the course of study, and this suggests that Tinubu’s certificate, which was supposedly obtained within the same timeframe, did not emanate from the school."

That's a problematic claim. "With all the rights, honors, and privileges pertaining thereto" is a fixed phrase that appears on all diplomas irrespective of their class. The addition of "with honors" isn't a duplication because graduating with honors is an academic distinction that only a limited pool of students achieve, and some U.S. universities include it in diplomas in addition to the fixed phrase that appears on all diplomas.

In any case, Tinubu’s uncollected 2000s replacement diploma that the registrar showed during the deposition has both the fixed phrase AND “with honors.”

Similarly, the claim that the samples of replacement diplomas issued in the 1990s don't have "with honors" is a weak argument because CSU only showed uncollected diplomas in its records, not a representative sample of every type and class of diplomas earned or re-issued that year. It could well be that the uncollected diplomas in CSU's records didn't achieve the distinction that entitles them to have "with honors" affixed to them.

Typically, only between 20% and 30% of students graduate with honors in U.S. colleges and universities (except for Ivy League universities that have higher percentages), so it's not a given that the uncollected diplomas in CSU's records will be among the 20% to 30%.

FIJ also said, "Two, whoever created the controversial certificate in Tinubu’s possession copied the template of the 2000s without paying attention to timeframe variations. This is clear in one of the signatures on Tinubu’s certificate. The signature on the right is that of Zaldwaynaka “Z, the current President of CSU, who took office in 2018. A president who took office in 2018 could not have signed a certificate supposedly released in the 1990s."

This claim seems made up because there is no "Zaldwaynaka Z" in the diploma Tinubu submitted to INEC. The photocopied CSU diploma Tinubu submitted to INEC and the samples of CSU diploma replacements from the 1990s are exactly the same except for the missing logo in Tinubu’s copy as a result of photocopying.

The registrar's disavowal of the diploma doesn't invalidate its authenticity because he merely said the photocopy that was shown to him didn't look like diplomas from CSU because of the missing logo. People who have an emotional investment in the idea that Tinubu "forged" a diploma that he validly earned (which is ridiculously excessive legal literalism to begin with) leave out that context and make it seem as if the registrar's words are an inviolable article of faith and not a conditional, context-dependent response to a specific question about a specific photocopied document that doesn't reflect all the features of diplomas CSU issued in 1998 BECAUSE of photocopying.

This issue has demonstrated to me in starkly dramatic terms how partisan blinders can distort people's perception of reality. When people so badly want something to be true, but it turns out to be untrue, they choose to hang on to the most absurd apophenic hallucinations (i.e., seeing predetermined patterns from a chaos of unrelated phenomena) they can invoke to validate their preconceptions. I've studied and taught this phenomenon for years but had never seen it manifest on a mass scale like this.

The only new thing that will change the conversation is a foolproof revelation that Tinubu didn't meet graduation requirements and was issued a fraudulent transcript that said he did—after the fact—by dodgy university officials. That would establish the legal basis for forgery. Given what I am now reading about the school, I won’t be shocked if this happens. So, I think the answer to the puzzle isn't on the surface; it's beneath the surface. Only deep investigation can unearth it.

Finally, the CSU registrar never said, “forgery is a Nigerian thing.” Tinubu sent his lawyer to get copies of his academic records from CSU and requested that the school certify the documents before sending them to him.

Atiku's lawyer asked if CSU had ever certified documents it sent out, and the registrar said, "No, I believe this was made because it is more of a Nigerian thing." So, the "Nigerian thing" he referred to was certifying school records for legal purposes, not forgery.

Atiku’s School Certificate
Tinubu’s minions, in their bid to get even with Atiku, dredged up Atiku’s post-secondary school appellative change and are attempting to pass it off as evidence of school certificate forgery against him. But here are the facts.

Atiku was known as Sadiq (or Siddiq—it doesn’t matter in Muslim northern Nigeria because “Sadiq” and “Siddiq” and all other spelling variants are interchangeable) Abubakar. He was named after Abu Bakr, Islam’s first caliph whom the prophet of Islam nicknamed as "al-Siddiq," which means “the righteous.” So, in Muslim northern Nigeria, every Abubakar (our domestication of Abu Bakr) is a Siddiq and vice versa—just like every Umar is a Farooq and vice versa.

People have asked why Atiku was tautonymous, that is, having the same first and last name— if Siddiq and Abubakar are the same. Well, in the early days of education in Northern Nigeria, people concealed their father’s names in schools to protect them from abuse from classmates. Some used toponyms (i.e., names of places) as their family names (Aminu Kano, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Ahmadu Rabah—before he changed to Bello—are prominent examples).

A few, however, chose the tautonymous route. Among them is former president Muhammadu Buhari. He was named after prolific ninth-century Hadith compiler Muhammad al-Bukhari who was a native of the city of Bukhara in what is now Uzbekistan. Bukhari simply means native of the city of Bukhara. But in northern Nigeria every Buhari is a Muhammad. So, Muhammadu Buhari is effectively a tautonym.

Atiku probably also initially chose the tautonymous route. I don’t know how he came about the name Atiku, but it is the Nigerian domestication of the Arabic name Atiq, which means “ancient.” Some people say it means “freed.” Bangladeshis bear it as Atiqur and Arabs bear it as Atiqullah.

More than anything, though, he swore an affidavit in real time to legalize this change of name. The same can’t be said for Bola Tinubu whom we’ve learned was initially known as Lamidi Amoda Sangodele.

only problem is today is the first time a batist would agree that it was re-issued in 1998. Tinubu and all of y'all swore it was re-issued in 1997. I even created a thread about how it certainly could not have been 1997 and one robot was offering runny explanations, before the deposition put everything to rest.

https://www.nairaland.com/7864020/thread-closed

wrongnumber:
I just don't like this noise.

Yes Tinubu forged it but in the court, matters are judged differently.

People on this forum know I am so against Tinubu and YES As I wrote, Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and I weep for Nigeria for having such a man in Aso Rock.

Nevertheless, has Atiku taken care of all loosed ends?

What if Tinubu says he got the certificate from a third party vendor and goes on to name one, how will Atiku counter this?

The supreme court is not where you go to start arguing nonsense. It is an appellant court and you must go there with all facts.

Festus Keyamo has given Atiku a head start nd Atiku in all his wisdom should know what to do.

Keyamo said and I quote...

"Atiku Should Find Third-Party Vendor Which Issued Chicago University Replacement Certificate To Tinubu, Get It To Deny Its Authenticity –Keyamo"

This is very crucial and not all these noise making by Dele momodu or Atiku.

I expect Atiku to have already asked CSU to give him the list of all the authorized third party vendor and also to have contacted all of them to deny issuing it and that will put Tinubu in a tight corner.

If the Supreme court accepts the evidence and Atiku flops this time again the he should just resign to his fate and I expect David Hudeyin in all his wisdom to know this better.

Furthermore, in the advent that the supreme court does not admit the evidence or rule in Tinubu's favour, they should still go ahead with the Criminal investigation and prosecution of Tinubu by making CSU revoke his degree as well as South West college cos he clearly forged the documents he used to gain admission into Darley college thereby rendering his degree at CSU non and void.

I feel like cursing every one instrumental to allowing this monumental criminal be in charge of Nigeria.

you have basically just re-echoed what I said in another thread over a week ago, almost to a T.💯

Treadway:
Unless Atiku has another document that is an ace up his sleeve, that hasn't been released yet, then this is a glorified waste of time. PO my guy, like I said earlier don't bother with the SC trip. Let Nigerians face whatever they wanna face btw now and 2027. Be a vibrant and visible opposition (no disappear like Jimi Agbaje), then come back in 2027 and hope more people would have learnt a thing or two from the kin tins wey their eyes go see btw now and then.

* New evidence will not be admitted
* Even tho we know there was a forgery of that doc likely done right here in Nigeria, you can't prove it, cos the registrar said under oath that third parties issue replacement certificates...perfect escape route. Whatever discrepancies can not be attributed to him but the third party who supposedly issued the cert. Case closed
* Govt College Lagos,...that one na between him and CSU. Nigeria can't assume jurisdiction in that instance and based on that point alone. If he submitted that form to a Nigerian University and claimed to grad from Govt College when he didn't, then Nigeria has jurisdiction for a case like that.
* Claim that he is an American citizen cos he ticked black American on one of the forms. No evidence he has an American passport...there was no other box to tick that would have been MOST applicable to him, based on that form I saw. There was no box for 'African' or 'Other' to tick. Correct me if I'm wrong.

All in all, even with something strong I wouldn't hold my breath on the supreme court doing anything to a sitting president, much less this one wey no strong. The school bailed their student, BUT we know that school sef dem be crook. Unfortunately we can't prove it.

Meanwhile, how Dele go dey use FFK as an example in this kin light... pontificating like FFK has integrity or any sort of values. FFK isn't talking cos no one is paying for him to talk yet. Dude is for hire. Pay him and see him defend this like his life depends on it. FFK wey no get any sort of integrity or shame. Lol

Simeonjoe1:
Walahi. Nothing una fit tell me, Tinubu na bagman serious kwaro Jagaban

why do you still believe anything these cretins say. Someone that could steal Donald Duke childhood pics, you should know is someone capable of more mouth-watering lies, fabrications and falsehood.

Penguin2:
After fake bishops

Fake certificates

Fake lifting visa ban by UAE

Fake “Joe Biden is begging to see you at UNGA”

Fake everything…

I’d be a fool to believe a picture posted by agbado.

Idiots that can photoshop anything

They already stole Donald Duke’s childhood photos before.

Next thing will be to photoshop him with Jimmy Carter.

Criminals!

Ndi ala!

I already busted the morafucker with the actual picture they STOLE and edited in my previous post.

pandoragirigory:
A 1979 picture in Chicago, Illinois, United States, with American Blues star singer, Jimmy Dawkins a.k.a. Fast Fingers.

All LIARS and Propaganda Photoshoppers will burn in the lake of fire and brimstone for eternity. Amen!

This is the original picture. Point out Tinubu there! Smh

Lol. One and only one...

Undergrad days..No thanks to years of porn consumption, the major physical feature I like in women na ass..as in Nicki Minaj huge (all the women I have been with have madt booty).

So I saw this girl, figure 8 toh badt, her booty na onion bigger than my girl's own at the time, book-smart too. Only problem was she had really bad dentition...like some really ugly ass teeth, but the booty kept prodding me on. By the end of the week, she follow me go my off-campus hostel. The plan was simple..kiss her forehead, neck, get into the blouse, loosen everything up and then tear pant...but AVOID the lips. All was going according to plan, blouse was off, laid her on the bed to take off the jeans, afi bi baby yi who was super turned on already, grabbed my head and gave me full throttle kiss, with tongue o....

I jus weak, but couldn't be mean to her so just eased out of the kiss...na so saliva begin store for my mouth o. I came up with an excuse, say make we reschedule the knacks cos my roommate fit come anytime but he go go house for weekend. All the while my mouth was welling with saliva, I go codedly spit am out, e go pile up again...most of what she was saying while I was seeing her off I was just nodding cos mouth don full with spit...as I see one of my fellow guy for hostel heading home, as we greet and I saw small opportunity say she no dey look I just quick spit the saliva wey don full my mouth. I sha dispersed the girl, went back to the hostel to aggressively brush my teeth with Dabur herbal toothpaste (back when it was still quality and bitter) while all the fellas were having a laugh, the guy don gist them before my return. That girl holds the record for most missed calls ever logged on my phone over the course of that weekend..over 500! We eventually ran into each other again a couple of months later, and after giving her some lamba, we eventually went to her hostel, where I split her differential without any kissing.

The end!

Same as always. They will look for Israel trouble, but when Israel retaliates with maximum force they will call CNN and Aljazeera to see how Israel is raining 10000 missiles killing their women and children. Smh

Unless Atiku has another document that is an ace up his sleeve, that hasn't been released yet, then this is a glorified waste of time. PO my guy, like I said earlier don't bother with the SC trip. Let Nigerians face whatever they wanna face btw now and 2027. Be a vibrant and visible opposition (no disappear like Jimi Agbaje), then come back in 2027 and hope more people would have learnt a thing or two from the kin tins wey their eyes go see btw now and then.

* New evidence will not be admitted
* Even tho we know there was a forgery of that doc likely done right here in Nigeria, you can't prove it, cos the registrar said under oath that third parties issue replacement certificates...perfect escape route. Whatever discrepancies can not be attributed to him but the third party who supposedly issued the cert. Case closed
* Govt College Lagos,...that one na between him and CSU. Nigeria can't assume jurisdiction in that instance and based on that point alone. If he submitted that form to a Nigerian University and claimed to grad from Govt College when he didn't, then Nigeria has jurisdiction for a case like that.
* Claim that he is an American citizen cos he ticked black American on one of the forms. No evidence he has an American passport...there was no other box to tick that would have been MOST applicable to him, based on that form I saw. There was no box for 'African' or 'Other' to tick. Correct me if I'm wrong.

All in all, even with something strong I wouldn't hold my breath on the supreme court doing anything to a sitting president, much less this one wey no strong. The school bailed their student, BUT we know that school sef dem be crook. Unfortunately we can't prove it.

And so??.... E don tey, no be today. Whatever wan occur, make e occur. Orun yabo, ki'n se oro eni kan.

Kyase:
The president is dull, weak and docile for my liking

on the bolded, you are spot on. Everything else you typed aside the above quoted is garbage, unfortunately.

Lol. He will apologize and/or do a full 360 in the coming days by the time the legion of sickos bully and troll the hell out of him. Imagine that one already claiming 'threat to life'. Awon were

NutritionGuru:
Yesternight, I was with other APC miscreants at a low-key meeting/get-together

Fixed

Op is the daft one. Atiku said the only way he is dropping this is if the supreme court says so....but trust these rodents to not face Atiku, but rather share half a headline OR write epistles about Obi.

Legion of Wankerrrs...lol

sukkot:
captured 26th july in ikoyi

treadway

toh!

Will revisit their office next week.

Stark illiterates on the prowl. One up there even claims to have a M.Sc but doesn't know what Hons or honors degree means. Olodo ni yin gan o. Hons or Honors degree is one that has a project/dissertation as part of the coursework. Most of these educated illiterates here kuma have Bsc Hons degrees themselves but don't even know....equating Bsc Hons with first class. Smh

Use Google when you are wildly ignorant. It will help you gain knowledge and enlightenment. Smh

rickleye:
Let her write or contact the minister directly.

iyen naa da.
Yea I'll contact them and see what happens.

BloodyDoe:
Especially Peter Obi, he is a sly man, a con artist, a pathetic loser. He had nothing to offer Nigeria in the first place. A thiefing Igbo man like him.

lol.
At least he is the kind of thief who isn't pilfering 20% of a state's revenue decades after bowing out as governor through a conduit firm, and tagged it consultancy fee. Neither does he have anyone planted to siphon money through the parks, nor have his daughter siphon money from the markets.....all decades after he bowed out as governor. He is a tiff, but a distant learner compared to your tiff....and it is scary to imagine what you lots would have had to say, assuming he followed in the footsteps of your tiff to the letter. Lol

Ani se, if Tinubu does as I expect and has a disappointing run (which he certainly will), wherever I dey on this God's green earth in Naija/abroad, I will personally do all within my power to vote and canvass votes for his re-election by then, just for the karmic fun of it...abi why stop at just 12 wasted national years..lol

Elxandre:
don't forget it wouldn't be long before it casts and they get dragged on social media.
Would you have recouped your investment before then?

lol...true. That one sef dey.

inoki247:
Lol anybody confirm this yet...


Who dey here wey don du Passport lately make he update us say na True...

I can confirm that the news of the backlog cleared isn't as true as depicted, at least not at the NIS office end of things. My wife was still at the immigration office Ibadan today and she along with a lot of other people were turned back yet again after a bit of waiting. Passport not ready. She did capturing early July.

Sukkot

Benrosaria:
You only delayed your smartness. Na marriage cause am ??

no ooo. No be marriage hold me back o. We concluded the location (Ibadan) wouldn't have worked..not then, and even not now. Lagos Island is a perfect location where word would spread pretty quick and patronage would roll in ASAP.

wittywriter:
Not new...

Hmmm...ok o




Wittyness.

true that. Although I'm pretty sure it isn't as easy or accessible as that sha, else many such pics would have flooded th internet. If you can do a sample and share, I'd be interested in seeing that.

sukkot:
SEUN nlfpmod mynd44 justwise DisGuy
please can we get this to frontpage to get comprehensive conclusive confirmation that the passport backlog has been cleared. thank you

good idea.

God is my witness, I had this exact idea in 2016. But I didn't work on it cos after discussing with wifey at the time, we decided it won't likely hit in Ibadan the way I envisioned. As soon as I saw this post I showed it to my wife. So surreal. I knew people are vain and would pay good money to fake it. As at then I figured people will be more likely to pay say 50-100k for a photoshoot session there than actually rent a jet. Of course it would hit on Lagos Island where fakers plenty wella.

Eyaa what would have been my pioneer concept💥..Oh well!😁

Christistruth00:
Read point 3

" Chicago State University provided a Diploma to Bola Ahmed Tinubu and subsequently provided a certified (Official ) Copy of that Diploma
Both are valid and authentic Diploma's of Chicago State University "

stop wrestling with the English language and disgracing Nigeria!
Jesus Christ the Good Lord gave you 2 eyes for a time like this,
READ !!!!!!


The Supreme Court is going to throw this case in the dust bin where it rightly belongs

lol. Take your own advice and READ a lil. Stay abreast of happenings, issues and updates rather than parading obsolete information. Cheers.

Babangidapikin:
Madam Adeosun seems to be the only honourable one ...

true that. She got caught and bowed out instantly. She no long am at all😁

Christistruth00:
Issued Certificates are so frequently backdated that it is a complete non Issue

I hope you have read the deposition/news update. It won't kill us to just argue with an open mind and not thru political lenses, except of course you truly in your heart of hearts believed your backdating angle to be feasible, in which case hopefully this exchange has thrown more light on that for you. Obi doesn't know me, and Tinubu doesn't know you. Let's be circumspect esp on banal and simple issues, because of a truth, Christ is Truth! Cheers

Meanwhile, I repeat let everybody just rest and enjoy the ride. E don do. Make all man revisit this impasse in 2027 for a review😁. As I dey so, if Tinubu does as I expect and has a disappointing run, wherever I dey in Naija/abroad, I will personally do all within my power to vote and canvass votes for his re-election by then, just for the karmic fun of it...lol