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The best life to live is a dedicated Christian life but most students think being a born again is a waste of time. But it's a better life and a higher life. For those who are still in one cult or the other, please come out and give your life to Jesus. No one can kill you if you do that. I have heard of ex cultists who were supernaturally protected when his former cult members tried to kill them. In Christ, you are indestructible.

To use such words on a sitting president is the height of irresponsibility. There are better ways to express your opinions about the President.

You can say Mr President integrity is questionable and based on this or that fact.

I don't like Buhari leadership style and his Islamization agenda but we should be careful how we express our thoughts about him because you could get into trouble.

Janosky:
Pastorpreneur con man alias Liesinaction.
You are a colossal disgrace, I tell you without mincing words.
Genesis 19:12-14,28,29

That's the problem with you people. I just showed you the evidence of the Scripture but your pride will not allow you to agree. You are an anti Christ for disagreeing with God's word. You will not escape God's judgment.

Maestro21:
You are young. Do your research on Paul Agomo. See if he is believable.

Please I don't need any research on him. If you have any information about him that is questionable, then let us know. Four different accusations has been brought against the same man and people think it's all false. Paul Agomo was actually the one sent to initially bundle Pastor Kayode from Ghana to Nigeria until his eyes got opened also.

And both of them had the same experience of their wives separated from them. Is that what the Bible teaches. The word of God says what God has joined together, let no man put asunder. T B Joshua is an anti Christ and a chronic womanizer. He has no right whatsoever to keep the wives of his Pastors to himself and send the Pastors away. Why do we love to protect evil people in Nigeria. Just put your ears to the ground, more people will speak out very soon. His end has come. And he will be utterly humiliated and disgraced. I feel so sorry for gullible followers like you unless you too are into sexual promiscuity. Birds of the same feathers flock together.

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaaaa! Your own Pastorship will supersede any of those found inside the Bible because i can't remember when Jesus said he will appoint GENTILES who aren't Jews and START MAKING THEM PASTORS WHO WILL NOT LEARN FROM ANYBODY BUT GO ABOUT TEACHING OTHERS!

My friend, a piece of advise for you.

There's nothing like teaching what you never learnt from anyone in Christianity, even Apostle Paul have learnt so much before he became a Christian and yet the Apostles put him through regarding the practical applications of what Jesus Christ taught us. Even it took the Apostles themselves, several years of following Jesus IN THE FLESH watching him closely to learn from his words, thoughts and actions!
So the foundation you're laying presently is Atheistic in nature NOT Christianity! Atheism is the group who learnt NOTHING but insist on teaching people what nobody taught them. God's own arrangement totally differs from such! Matthew 28:19-20

Off course I have learnt from people and have been under Pastors but concerning the subject of eschatology, what I have been taught is different from what I found out in the course of my study. Our church fathers didn't quite understand it very well and so many ministers today present it wrongly. But by the grace of God, my understanding on this subject is so deep and the Church will unlearn what they have been taught hitherto and embrace the right knowledge. I don't claim to know the whole Bible but I understand eschatology very well.

Kumuyi need to undo the wrong doctrines he has established for years. Otherwise, it will not be easy on Judgement Day.

I am shocked that some people still believe in this fraudster called T B Joshua. With all the numerous allegations pointing to the same thing, no sane person should still worship there.

Bisola brought her allegations, they said she is mentally disordered. Is Paul Agomo and Pastor Kayode also mentally disordered? Please you better watch how you defend a guilty man before you become an accomplice.

Diesel1:
Am from kano state.. I support Ruga. bring it to my state

It's already approved for Northern states. Please don't come down south.

Jozzy4:
A Beast ? Do u really believe such An animal was thrown into lake of fire ?

He is human and not an animal.

Maximus69:
Simply because your Pastors asked you to reject what JWs says.

Beast to conquer the world will come from old Roman Empire with headquarter in modern Rome!

More grease to your elbow Sir!

Please, I am a Pastor. I was not taught by anyone. I got the revelation through study. I am working on a book that should be the most revealing book on the subject of eschatology.

Maximus69:
So the Bible book of Revelations is to be taken literal!

That means one woman will start committing fornication with a wild beast having seven heads and ten horns in Rome?

Praise the Lord for this wonderful interpretation!

It is to be taken literal except otherwise stated. The ones that are symbolic are explained. You can also tell by the context if the word written is symbolic or literal.

Maximus69:
OK it's contradictions when someone quotes Genesis 2:16-17, 3:17-19, Psalms 146:4, Ecclesiastes 3:19-20, 9:10 All pointing to the fact that humans returns to none existence at death?

Why not explain what God is saying in all those books before you concentrated only on the symbolic figures mentioned at Revelations?

Are you saying God has changed his mindset to suit that of those evil people tormenting humans alive in fire, the acts that God himself said HAS NOT COME INTO HIS HEART? Jeremiah 19:5

Please who is copying who, God or humans?

Are you serious?


So after 1,000 years that they're still inside the fire Satan later joined them inside the fire!

That's incredible!

Please give this Pastor a round of applause for this wonderful and timely interpretation!

The saints of old had limited knowledge of the truth. So, not everything stated in the Old Testament is truth. For example, Job said, the Lord gives and the Lord takes, blessed be the name of the Lord. But we know from the new teachings of our Lord Jesus that every good gifts comes from God. It is the devil who kills. Even God rebuked Job for uttering words without knowledge.

So if you really want to get the truth about eternal destiny of man, focus on the new testament teachings of Jesus and his Apostles. Jesus is the truth. He came to make us know most things clearly that could not be understood in the Old Testament.

Concerning the beast and the false prophets thrown into hell, I did not write those words. They are there in the Bible. I didn't add my words. When Satan was later thrown into the same lake of fire, the verse says that the beast and the false prophet were still there after over 1,000 years. Just go back and read it more slowly.

Janosky:
1) Yes.

**2) You don't really believe that, you're just paying lip service to it.
Hellfire doctrine faces South Pole, "the wages of sin is death" faces North Pole.

##3)Yes.

***4) Grace (Matt24:21,22. Zeph2:2,3) and works (James2:24-26. Heb11:6. 12:1).

**5) JWs are empowered by holy spirit.

**##6) Jesus has essence and nature of God or divine nature ," a god", (the Word was with "ho theos", the God,) the Word is NOT "ho theos" that's the real point in John1:1.
In heaven, Jesus has his God and Father(Rev 3:5,21. Acts 3:13). He is not Almighty God. Humans are partakers of divine nature (John10:34-36), does that mean that man is Almighty God?
Who is the God of Jesus father ?

***$$7) 2 Thess1:7-9 . Jude1:5,7, refutes your claim. Is Sodom and Gomorrah "punishment of everlasting fire" still tormenting them today?

2 Thess1:7-9 . Matt24:30,31 revealed what Jesus is coming to do on earth- execute the wicked which translates to salvation of faithful servants of Jehovah., "thy kingdom come" to rule over the "new earth" of righteous subjects of God's kingdom. (Rev5:9,10. 20:1-5).

My friend, you have been brainwashed. Let me just prove to you that those destroyed by fire in Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering it in hell.

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE.

The word suffering is present continous term if you read English in school. So they are still suffering it. And the last two words, Eternal fire shows its forever.

Jozzy4:
So the Beast Is not real BUT A REPRESENTATION of someone, what does the Lake of fire into which its thrown REPRESENT ?


Can u kindly Identify this WORLD LEADER! , to Give concrete to your assumption ?

He is yet to be revealed. He will rule from Rome which will be the headquarters of the New kingdom. And the false prophet will come from Israel and they will work together. He will enter into a peace treaty on behalf of Israel for seven years. But after three and a half years, he will set up an image of the beast in the temple of God and force everyone on earth to worship the beast. It is at this point the Jews will realize they have been deceived.

Hence our Lord Jesus said in

Matthew 24:15-21.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Isreal will be persecuted by the beast and Jesus will come back to deliver Israel from the hands of the beast. It is after the defeat that him and the false prophet will be thrown into the Lake of fire.

Then Satan will be bound for 1,000 years and Jesus will reign from Jerusalem for 1,000 years.

Janosky:
Oturugbeke. !!!!!
The Confirmed LIAR says "physical beast" will rule over "the regions occupied by the Old Roman Empire".
How can a beast rule over a human society?
This pastorpreneur con man your brain na sawdust.....
Liesinaction is actually due for psychiatric evaluation....

Please, the beast is a human being. He is given that name because of his evil works. Please just humble yourself and learn. I will teach you freely.

Cutealexio:
Lol....Bros, I snatch your girlfriend? On a serious note
I'm not trying to say he's perfect but what I'm trying to say is that we attach a lot of importance to use of English....Ask South Africans about Zuma

It is not an excuse. He studied in English and should be able to express himself both in spoken and written English. Otherwise, how did he pass his WAEC? A person like this should not be given such position. If he is better in Hausa, he should go and teach Hausa in school.

9jaRealist:
From the last U17 tournament team (2015), there are Samuel Chukwueze, Victor Osimhen and Kelechi Nawakali (Eagles B team), Orji Okoronkwo (Bologna/U23 team) and Kingsley Michael (Bologna/U20 and U23 teams). Not a bad return at all.
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I know but I think the entire team should be kept together. At least 70% of the players. Because the more they play together, the better understanding they will have amongst themselves.

Janosky:
You pastorpreneur con man wan give lecture about pride even when him pride no let am confess say him say " beast will rule in the Old Roman Empire" na BIG lie.

In the same manner that Luke documented that Jesus disciples, (including Luke himself) believed and formed their own opinions,they prophesied what Jesus Christ NEVER taught ! Luke 18:31. Luke 19:11. Luke24:21.

Jesus disciples mess no dey smell reach like your "beast WILL RULE in the Old Roman Empire" lie lie wey ooze stench wey dey smell pass carbide.

I already corrected that. That was a typographical error. The beast will rule in the revived Roman Empire. But this time, it will consist of a confederation of ten states. So don't make too much noise about this. I can lecture you on eschatology.

cheapgoals:
The FIFA U17 World Cup is one the very few competitions where African teams have been able to show dominance on the World Scene. African teams have won the competition seven times with Nigeria accounting five of the trophies and Ghana getting the other two.

However, while Ghana has not participated at the U17 for quite some time now, Nigeria have won two of the last three editions only missing the 2017 editions.

This year the 2019 edition is scheduled for Brazil and Nigeria have qualified alongside two debutants and one team who will be making their second FIFA U7 World Cup appearances and we take a look at the four Africa representatives.


NIGERIA

Nickname: Golden Eaglets

Appearance: 12

Debut: 1985

Last Appearance: 2015

Best Performance: Winners (x5)

Coach: Manu Garba

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Golden Eaglets as the Nigerians are called are the tournament’s most successful team with 8 podium finishes all being the trophy deciding final match. The West Africans have won five finals and losing three other finals.

The first of the wins came in the first edition of the competition in 1985 while they added another in 1993, 2007 and back to back wins in 2013 and 2015 make up the five title triumph by Nigeria.

With the Current Champions, England failing to qualify for the 2019 edition in Brazil, Nigeria will definitely be considered as one the favourites even though they were quite unimpressive in the CAF U17 Championship in Tanzania earlier in the year where they came fourth behind Cameroon, Senegal and Angola. However, with a coach who won the 2013 edition it may be wrong to write the west Africans off totally.


ANGOLA

Nickname: Palanquinhas

Appearance: 1

Debut: 2019

Last Appearance: –

Best Performance: Debut

Coach: Pedro Goncalves

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Angola were only making their third CAF U17 Championship in Tanzania in February but they made the most of it by qualifying for their first ever FIFA U17 World Cup after coming third beating five times world champions Nigeria in the third place match.

The Palanquinhas do not posses much experience on the world level although they could look to the record making 2006 national team side who made the FIFA world cup held in Germany thirteen years ago.

With Capita, they have the highest goalscorer at the CAF competition with four goals and may likely be the team’s source of goals at the mundial against hosts Brazil, Canada and New Zealand.


SENEGAL

Nickname: Terranga Cubs

Appearance: –

Debut: 2019

Last Appearance: –

Best Performance: –

Coach: Malick Daff

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Senegal enter this territory for the first time in their history although their qualification was on administrative basis after Guinea was stripped of their world Cup ticket for fielding over-aged players during the tournament

Guinea was abolish from the competition by CAF for age falsification. The CAF Executive Committee then approved Senegal as their replacement even though they failed to make the semi finals.

Their reward is a group D pairing with the USA, Netherlands and Japan.


CAMEROON

Nickname: The Indomitable Cubs

Appearance: 2

Debut: 2005

Last Appearance: 2005

Best Performance: Group Stage

Coach: Thomas Libiih

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The young Indomitable Lions are the Champions of Africa albeit they are appearing at their second ever FIFA U17 World Cup after lifting the African title in Tanzania.

The last time they were at the World Cup they failed to qualify from the group stage and will be hoping to go one better or even all the way in Brazil and with the CAF U17 best player Steve Mvoue and Ismaila Seidou the team’s highest goalscorer at the competition still very much in the team, fans at home will be expecting a decent outing against Spain, Argentina and Tajikistan at the World Cup.




SOURCE: https://cheapgoals.com/fifa-u17wc-meet-africas-four-representatives-to-brazil/

The essence of this age group competition is to discover young talent but after the competition, most of them never make it to the senior team. I think we need to work on this. If the team stay together after the competition and just injecting a few more players, we should be able to raise a team that can go places in the senior world cup.

Cutealexio:
Use of English does not determine the level of intelligence. If you visit some countries in Europe or Asia you will see a lot of brilliant and intelligent professionals in various fields that speaks and write terribly but that does not mean they're not up to task in their specializations. If you are well travelled you will get used to ignoring grammatical blunders (ignore mine�) I don't know why Nigerians are so addicted to English Language.... It's only in Nigeria that they will doubt the competence of a doctor or an engineer because of his/her use of English. You can study these courses in other languages too... This shouldn't trend at all

Stupid comments endorsed by people like you to excuse your shortcoming. Then he should have written it in a language he is good at and ask someone to translate it to English. This is the reason this country is backward.

The electoral act should stipulate a minimum of Master degree both for governorship, presidential and senatorial positions in future elections.

We are tired of dullards ruling us.

Jozzy4:
A Beast ? Do u really believe such An animal was thrown into lake of fire ?

The beast is the new world ruler. He is called the beast because of his ruthlessness. He was thrown into the Lake of fire after Jesus defeated him. And 1,000 years later, Satan was thrown in there. So there is nothing like none existence. See the scripture below.

The battle of Jesus with the beast and his army

Revelation 19:19-20
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

After this incident, Satan was bound for 1,000 years and Jesus ruled the earth for that period.

Revelation 20:1-6

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

After the 1,000 years was over, Satan will be loosed for a season and gather multitudes to fight against the Saints. Revelation 20:7-9.

But fire from God from heaven destroyed them and Satan was cast into the Lake of fire. And this verse acknowledged that the beast and the false prophets were still there.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Remember the time lapse between when the beast and the false prophet were thrown into the Lake of fire and when Satan joined them was at least 1,000 years. So this suggests that they do not go into none existence.

The last sentence says, 'and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever'

You either accept the truth of the Scripture and stop twisting it to suit your preconceived opinions. The book of Revelation says we should not add or subtract from it. And says anyone who adds, all the plagues will be added to him and anyone who subtract will be deleted from the book of life.

Maximus69:
Simply because your Pastors asked you to reject what JWs says.

Beast to conquer the world will come from old Roman Empire with headquarter in modern Rome!

More grease to your elbow Sir!

It is revealed in the book of Revelation.

Maestro21:
You are not walking in love. To walk in love, you must hear every side of a story and never judge a thing before it's time. All the accusations against TB Joshua and yet not one soul can prove a thing. Just lies and more lies. This same woman you are defending said Pastor Chris brought CEC members to learn how to fake miracles from TB Joshua. Do also agree with that part? I want to know if I should stop engaging you.

That is her opinion about Pastor Chris visit. That doesn't make other things she said incorrect. To make several videos exposing T B Joshua and even in a book format is not what a liar can do because she will know the implications. False information and accusations can take you to jail. And she said T B Joshua should come openly to refute all her claims. At least Pastor Biodun spoke out and even ready to sue her. Let T B Joshua do the same. Otherwise, he is guilty and should be punished for that and all his captives set free.

Maestro21:
How can the number of years you stay under someone who was sleeping with women and faking miracles not matter? Does it not mean you were part of the charade? If you knew these evil things were being done for years on end and you stayed put why should I believe you now? If you were lying for him then you can be lying against him now? THINK!

It is not a mark of honesty to subject yourself to hecklers and time-wasters. For how many years was Pastor Chris accused of being a private jet owner even when he had said repeatedly that he did not need one and will not buy one? Of course, every evil done will be exposed. We have seen them get exposed. Yet, how many years have gone by and the fraud TB Joshua according to you people is still untouched?

Leave the part about what Jesus said on judgement day. Let us first heal the sick and then we can discuss who Jesus will say he never knew. I can bet with you, that the chances of finding someone Jesus does not know is far higher in the camp of those who have nothing to show than in the camp of people who actually perform the miracles. Even the Kenneth Hagin and Archbishop Idahosa that are much vaunted today were heavily criticized in their day.

Getting criticized is one thing but when it involves gross sexual conduct, it should not be taken lightly. I repeat it should not be taken lightly. Imagine your younger sister is among his sex slaves, you will not talk this way. You are afraid it could be true so just try to sweep it under the carpet. The press and police should come in. He is destroying lives and you are worshipping him. Don't be a partaker of other men sin.

Maximus69:
Punishment for what and where?

You're still nurturing the idea that a religious group who has succeeded in bringing people from divers cultures and traditions to form a global happy family of peace-loving worshippers in a world that's politically divided due to RACISM is doing something evil right?

If you're not aware, let me tell you today that God's word has laid a curse on people like you who is saying "good is bad and bad is good" Isaiah 5:20

When Satan himself knows that none existence is the only punishment God had in mind for evil {Genesis 2:16-17, 3:17-19, Psalms 146:4, Ecclesiastes 3:19-20, 9:5-10} well i don't blame you after over 1,800 years of the imaginary hellfire in the minds of credulous churchgoers like you even the Catholics who fabricated it from Greek philosophers told you publicly that Hellfire is FAKE yet you're still imagining it must be so!

For your information, God had no such evil thoughts as subjecting living creatures to excruciating torments Sir{Jeremiah 19:5} it's all the fabrications of the Devil to keep you in the dark! Revelations 16:14

Pastor LieinAction, go and convert people who don't believe in READING, STUDING and THOROUGHLY MEDITATING on what's written in the Bible. Psalms 1:1-3

We are OK with our beliefs! 2John 10-11

None existence ko none existence ni. Look at you contradicting God's word. When the false Prophet and the beast were thrown into the Lake of fire, they were still there after 1,000 years before they were joined by Satan himself. How will something that does not exist cry night and day?

Janosky:
That's the junk you're spoonfeeding your gullible sheepies to rip off their hard earned money.

**** 1 Cor3:3-9 KJV.
"3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is
among you envying, and strife, and
divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as
men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and
another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but
ministers by whom ye believed, even as the
Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God
gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any
thing, neither he that watereth; but God that
giveth the increase.
8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth
are one: and every man shall receive his
own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye
are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building."

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one",same doctrines, same teachings, same beliefs and practice under the leadership of Jesus Christ.



Jesus disciples NEVER taught contradictory doctrines that you pastorpreneurs are doing today to deceive and fleece gullible people.

Kumuyi is against Christmas/birthday celebration, he says you and all celebrants of Christmas are idol worshippers.
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/12/23/kumuyi-stirs-fresh-controversy-in-christendom/

(kumuyi anti Christmas thread even dey here for Nairaland, go dig it up).

Yet, you dey follow am pretend una be "body of Christ"
Would an apostle of Jesus call his fellow apostles "idol worshippers"?

You are digressing. Churches may have points of disagreement but the tenets of the gospel remains and we all agree on that except the Jehovah false witnesses.

1. That all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

2. That the wages of sin is death.

3. That redemption is only available by exercising faith in the finished work of Christ on Calvary.

4. That salvation is purely an act of grace and not of works.

5. That the Church is given the Holy Spirit to empower us for ministry work.

6. That Jesus is deity. He has the very nature and essence of God.

7. That all who reject the gospel of our Lord Jesus will end up in hell fire.

8. That Jesus is coming back to take us home before the anti Christ is revealed.

9. That Christ will come back to establish his Millennium Reign on earth.

Whether Deeper life, Christ Embassy, RCCG, Foundation Faith, Living Faith etc. We all agree on this tenets except the Jehovah false witnesses.

Janosky:
Junk post of johnw and Olaadegbu lying Pharisees.
Olaadegbu affirmed that Johnw is an idol worshipper Christmas/ birthday celebrant.
(Go & see Olaadegbu profile on NL).

Jesus Christ followers were false prophets too !
Jesus disciples believed and formed their own opinions,they prophesied on something Jesus Christ NEVER taught ! Luke 19:11. Luke24:21.

Non denominational Pharisees and kumuyi worshipper ,strange bedfellows, dey form comrade for JW matter.
Oturugbeke!!!!!!!

Pride goes before destruction. You know jonhw47 is right. The prophecies are documented. Just run for your life because the burning hell will be unbearable.

Janosky:
Your "beast will rule in the Old Roman Empire"
Pastorpreneur con man.

For clarity, I mean in the region occupied by the the Old Roman Empire. It is better referred to as a revived and revised Roman Empire with headquarter in Rome.

PatriotTemidayo:
Even though they may not call it state police, every governor is empowered as the chief security office of the state, to create a neighborhood guide or mostly called VIGILANTE.

Delta has it, I don't know about others.


So, the name doesn't matter, so long they take charge of security of the state and are strategically positioned by the governor, not federal government

Then it's a welcome development.

xaggar:
Come to think of it, have you ever excelled in your arguments against Jehovah's Witnesses?

Sometimes I feel you are are just trying to understand something you know you aren't taught in your denomination. Well, if my feeling is right, I'll say why don't you just create a new thread with questions: because you go old for these yeye criticisms.

You are not happy I am exposing your lies. And I will keep exposing them. Hopeless group that do not even believe that Jesus is coming back to take us home. You just suffer yourself under the sun and rain preaching doctrines of devils and I should keep quiet. I have many more things to expose of this wicked group. Your punishment is sure if you don't repent.

Maximus69:
Satan's group are surely coordinated and well organised but not for PEACE because their god is NOT interested in peace! Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} that's why we who are following him in reality can form one happy global family {John 17:20-23} Jesus said with man this is impossible but with the one and only true God all things are possible! Mark 9:23

Just quote anywhere in the Bible that says Satan's agents can organise people from divers cultures, nationalites and ethnicity to form a peace-loving group!

I've quoted Jesus' words for you pointing to unity and peace as the ONLY sign to recognise God's people in the end time!

My friend , the Hell Fire idea is just to keep you silent so that you won't see anything apart from the fruitless hypocritical worship of the Churches, they only load your head with futility. Just see yourself arguing blindly without any reasonable point, do you think this is how Jesus and the first century Christians preached to convince people?

For your information Mr Hellfire, God's word is powerful enough to reach hearts, NOT just threatened people with torment simply because you've got nothing worthwhile to say! Hebrews 4:12

Apostle Paul said that we should not be surprised to see ministers of Satan disguising as angels of light. That is what Jehovah witness stands for. They are actually working for the devil but they pretend they are doing God service. Otherwise why would you

1. Deny the bodily resurrection of Christ.
2. You don't believe he is coming back to take the Saints home. In fact, you claim he has already come.
3. You don't believe in the person of the Holy Spirit. You call him a wind or force.
4. You also said that God will not use what we do on earth to judge us. Because as soon as we die, our sins are cleansed.
5. You also said that hell as a place of torment does not exist. When the teachings of Jesus states otherwise.

I could go on and on. You preaching is just opposite of the truth. That makes you an anti Christ. Only ignorant souls will fall for you. Otherwise address each point I raised and try to deny them or affirm that this is indeed your stand. And I will show you several Scripture that contradict your teachings.

Maestro21:
People have put up defences for Pastor Chris without his consent. Use the same eye for Prophet Joshua as you are according Pastor Chris.

I have told you that Bisola, Paul Agomo and Athens are the tail, there are numerous other cases of people testifying about him that are the dog. Which of them should wag which? I mean which of them is the preponderance of evidence?

What you keep doing over and over is quoting 2 people who have been proven without a doubt to be liars. How long will one deceive a child of God? If a Pastor stays under a ministry for 20 years and at the 20th year decides the ministry is not of God why should I take his testimony seriously? How was he being deceived for 20 years?

Once you have made up your mind to kill your dog, any thread will be good enough. That is what you are doing. All I will implore you is, pray for understanding, walk in love and see if you keep up with this energy about Prophet Joshua.

I have done same, and I know without a doubt that he is a man sent from God. I know doctrinally some things are off but same argument can be made for many other ministeries. Like you said, we know in part.

The number of years they stayed did not matter. One can be brainwashed for a while after which they realize that they are not doing the right thing. Haven't you seen people that were born Muslims convert to become Christians. Some even spent over ten years studying Islam thinking they were doing the right thing until they saw the light.

Even Apostle Paul persecuted the Church thinking he was doing service to God until he met Jesus.

If T B Joshua is not guilty of these allegations, he should submit himself for investigation. That is what an honest man of God will do. But to just sweep under the carpet all these allegations is a mark of gross dishonesty. And you give me an impression that you are a dishonest fellow. Well, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. Evil does not last. At the right time, the complete truth will come out. You can only defend yourself. You can't tell what others do behind the scene. After all, Jesus said many will come to him on Judgement Day saying they have performed miracles in his name but he will tell them to depart from him for they are workers of iniquity.