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Ihedinobi: How hungry you are for a fight with me. Didn't I already tell you that I won't give you one? Get on with your life, dude, and forget a little about me.

justaqad: inmate 223345
heard ur next.hehehehehehehehehehehehe

since you cant take anything off islam,you resort to blackmail the prophet(s.a.w)hehehehehehehhehheheheheheh

Sweetnecta: @Ijawkid: Your religious brother, truthislight has disagreed with you about everlasting life. He has dragged you to disbelieving that Jesus is also God, so is Holy Ghost/spirit and Yahweh of OT is God too. Though Jesus said Ellah with which you form HALLEluiah HALLElujah is his God.

@Truthislight: You are busted and Ijawkid should sue you or tell you to stop thinking for him, if he is honest to his own statement. You are driving further and faster into darkness upon darkness. Even faster than the already in the abject darkness that Ijawkid is already in.

@Ijawkind and Truthislight: compare your responses and see how different you guys are to each other on the same issue, my statement in quote.

Ijawkid said the immediate below as response to the quoted from me, while truthislight said what was below the quote as response to the same quote from me. How are these two following the same book, having the same holy spirit teaching them puzzles normal mind. The holy spirit is absolutely a ghost that does not teach or lead anyone to a successful destination. At least not good spiritual destination.


by ijawkid(m): 7:57pm On Aug 25
Hey!!!!!!!!

Everlasting life will both be experienced by persons both In heaven and on earth....d bible says that....

Read matthew 5:3 $ 5.......

New International Version (NIV)
3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.

Look up those verses........

Eternal life will be enjoyed both in heaven and on earth..........no 2 ways about it........

This is d bible talking.....

But in trying to support ur 72 virgins in heaven by quoting scriptures frm d bible ur Ón a long thing






by truthislight: 11:27am
i dont really wish to join this thread at first even now.

But i notice that your information is not base on facts.

1. I and Ijawkid dont really ascribed to the trinity doctrine but you have attributed it to us.

2. I and Ijawkid dont accept that all rigtheous person will go to heaven but again you have attributed is to us.

3. I and Ijawkid dont ascribed to the immortality of the soul but you are have imputed it to us.

4. We dont know what you call holy ghost, what we know is holy spirit.

Is it also possible that what you are inputting to the scriptures are not the TRUTH?

You are of the view of what is the use of eternal life without 100 wives?

^^^^
lol
you are finish because of the lust urges in your brain.

Do you imagine it is all human that operate at such degree of lack of self control?

You input lies to other people just to justified your own urges/lust/lack of self control.

Jesus did not even have a wife let alone ask his followers to marry more than one wife, you wish to take his word out or context and justify you insatiable urge for sex.

Suit yourself.

true2god: I am not a Barrister so u might be far better than me in the use of English. But that doesnt stop me frm conveyin my thought as understandable as possible. For ur information i study Mathematics and Statistics and not English, so dnt mind my poor use of English language.

I would have expected u to respond to my last post, very constructively, instead of resortin to insults. Thats not a mark of civility at all.

Back to my question, is there any biblical basis for 1914, not what watchtower told u (frm ur indepednet point of view) ? Pls tell me so that we go back and dig into medieval history to see who is lyin to who. Gd nite.

true2god: My broda by their fruit we shall knw dem. Running frm substance and shading shadows. He is truly a 'Proposed or remedial Jw' so im not surprised. I hav seen pple more insultive dan him so its not new to me.

free123: Barrister the way u rain insults on someone is not Christlike. and i wonder what u learn from JW u support

true2god: If i can get u right there are two types of Jw, proposed Jw and confirmed Jw. If i may ask u, is dis biblical or just ur way of expressin ur present spiritual relationship with God? My broda u cant sit on a fence, u r either inside or outside in spiritual matters. This is not a school where u spend four years as an undergraduate and awarded certificate after completion of courses.

If i can get u right a police man studyin with Jw cant be a full witmess until he drop the job, ok? But if a Jw have civil matters to settle he can run to the police or job he detaste for help. Thats pure hypocrisy. They should have gone to the kingdom hall to make complaints.

Is there any verse in the Bible that supports ur claim that a xtain cannot serve in the police or the armed forces. Is cornelius in the Bible a soldiers or a civillian? Isnt he a xtain? After conversion was he asked to drop his job and be carrin bags frm house to house? Thats ridiculous to say the least.

Thats y many homes are havin problems cos of the misintepretation of the bible. A man left a high paying job that he uses in supportin his family on the advise of an elder so that he can make more hrs on the field as a publisher only to discover that he can longer provide for his family and ended up takin up a security job wen things hav already gone bad.

I think we need to use wisdom and not bein foolish.

On the issue of fixin date u say i shuld do a scan copy and of the materials for u to believe and my response is for u to giv me time go get those materials u need. I dnt print the magazines in my house neither do i keep archive of those publications. But if u can go thru the first page of this thread all the reference are there for u to see.

U said Jw didnt fix 'date' but they fix year (1914), well said by u. Let me use ur Jw calculated chronology to quote ur Jw Jesus or Angel Michael, whichever one u choose (the Jesus i knw didnt say so) sayin, and let us hear hw it sounds to ur hearing: 'the time and hour of my comin no man knows, but it will be in 1914, but the particular time and hour in that year no man knws'.

Guy until u get a biblical proove of ur bogus 1914 handed down to u frm Brookly NY i wont take u serios.

Delafruita: lay off the weed.its bad for your already bad mental state

Delafruita: what stops you from believing in peter pan,snow white and godzilla?

Delafruita: dude we're talking 1000 phillistines.1000 been an actual figure and not an idiomatic expression.the weapon been jawbone of a freaking asss.if this story is true,means the phillistines were just as stuupid as modern day religionists.
am tryna picture the stuff in my head.did the phillistines form a queue?after he killed 500,did he clear the field of their bodies?if not,how did he get around to the others?after he killed 700,why didnt the remaining guys flee?
the story is just bollocks.reminds me of david getting the foreskin of 500phillistines as a brideprice for saul's daughter.did he skin each body after killing or did he kill them first then start skinning?

Delafruita: thats the primary reason most "faithfuls" remain in the shackles of poverty and lack.they keep expecting yahweh to "transfer the riches of the gentiles" to them.their pastors tell them to intensify prayers,fasting,giving,sacrifices etc

cyrexx: faith give you a comfort of having a sky daddy watch over you while reason expose you to the hard cold truth and reality of the fact that no almighty nothing from no sky is watching out for nobody. it take guts to admit the truth sometimes.

thats why many will be intellectually dishonest and still prefer faith over reason.

cyrexx: faith give you a comfort of having a sky daddy watch over you while reason expose you to the hard cold truth and reality of the fact that no almighty nothing from no sky is watching out for nobody. it take guts to admit the truth sometimes.

thats why many will be intellectually dishonest and still prefer faith over reason.

Delafruita: i wonder why people choose faith over reason

Delafruita: a business partner made me promise to attend his church.he happens to be the "GO".a few hours of this torture is a small price to pay for a good business relationship

Delafruita: a business partner made me promise to attend his church.he happens to be the "GO".a few hours of this torture is a small price to pay for a good business relationship

Delafruita: still in church(though spending almost all my time on my phone).dont even know what the sermon is about but i couldnt help but hearing the part about "samson killed 1000 phillistines with the jaw of an asss".how the fvck does someone even believe such fable?

justaqad: ooooooh no not again.
*dials 911*
paramedics: sit still sir,dont worry we will take care of you.
Nakash:i am fine:
paramedics:that was what johny said when he refused instructions from his instructor,and guess what!be blew himself up.
Nakash:whats that?
Paramedics:Oooh this,its called(mmc)once injected u'll partially loose your sanity,dat will be enough reason for you to be transferred to wilson psychriatic hospital.
Nakash:oooh God,wil what?*sobs*i ve heard rumours about dat cursed place.
Paramedics:*smiles hysterically*.alqaeda hire the services of inmates to commit terror.dnt worry your family will be compensated graciously.

alexleo: Frosbel i pity u. Wait until you cross over to eternity and discorver how wrong you are then it will be too late for you. Indeed the false prophets are manifesting. God's people beware!!!

BARRISTERS: @true2God


can you prove that? because you are guity of what you are accusing people of here, see that below;


this is not a tread for this discussion,there is a rule guiding the religion forum to always keep to topic, but briefly
lets see what truthslight said below;



compare to yours;


simple english language understanding is what you lack here! truthslight; ''there are no JW in the police''? many who are policemen/women before JW preached to them,such and individual accepts invitations to be attending their meeting regularly, and continue to grow, but such person will be told that he is not a jw until he change his job (1) finish the internal study(2) and trully manifest that he/she has changed (4) baptism, firearms and others are not allowed. but merely associating with jws if people ask, is this policeman a jw? it is proper to say that such one are 'proposed-JW' like myself, im still not allowed to be a witness, and i understand jws stand, but people think im one because they say that i surport them,while i have not gone through (1-4) processes above.
so the answer to your question, there are 'proposed jw' in the police,yes, but a ''full-baptised-jw'' (that have already gone through (1-4) processes above.) can not join the police. ok?

so if you like confuse 'proposed jw' to meam a half jw the way you have stated childishly before, na you sabi!.

again, on the issue of providing evidence of the alledged prediction, you seem to be mixing things up here, get me right pls;

you accused jws of 'fixing a date' of endtime!

definations of what constitutes 'a date' here, must be a particular day, in a particular month, but you did not answer that?

you definately fail to even know the date but still looking for someone to whisper it to you, what that means was that you have accused someone already only to realised that you dont have a proof.

if you dont know, 1918 is not a date! its a year,its not a month but a year, must one be spoonfeeding you as a nursery pupil here?

give me your evidence like this; that JWS said on so-so day/of-so-so-month/and so-so-year. i.e 26th of Aug.2012, is a date sir, but, you cant say 1918 is a date.can you?

jesus says no one knows 'the day and time' im not even saying that you provide time here, but a day that can be confirmed on the jws magazine. then i can work with that, instead of doing your homework well, you started sounding lazy, that i have admitted for jws, im i a jw in the first place?

provide your scanned evidence that includes the day of a month of a particular year that was predicted, so you can leave out 'time'. ok?








i gave

you accused jws of 'fixing a date' but come out with 'a particular year' as an evidence?

Ihedinobi: Frosbel, I'm afraid to say that things are degenerating for you. What is the next doctrine that you will throw out? And for what reason really?

I will get back to you on this, if the Lord permits. For now, I have cause for sadness.

Pastor Kun: @Goshen
You give these people too much credit. Oyakhilome is a false pastor. PERIOD. We shd learn to call a spade a spade. The fact that his congregation idolise him so much and he dosen't even bother to reprimand them is enough evidence even though in his case there are tonnes and tonnes of evidence to prove that he is just a common fraudster.

Sweetnecta: @Truthislight: maybe you guys will finally see the light instead of the wretched darkness you have lived all your lives in? even you christians dont have uniformity belief of what heaven which is paradise is; what may qualifies a person, etc. You see confusion of the highest order? ijawkid is of the opinion of the untraceable 'planting garden' type of eden of Adam is the paradise, while still the same ijawkid proposes something in the sky. in either case what eternal reward is no christian knows it. but while he denies what Jesus of the bible says about the one wife you abandoned, they cover it up with what the not so virile Paul said. who is the hypocrite; the one who says his God is jesus, yet abandoned his saying to pick up the saying/opinion of paul or we the muslims telling you to see the light?
who is not following Jesus; paul who said the opposite of what Jesus said, though claiming that he is a slave of Jesus sent by Yahweh or we the muslims who say that the God of Jesus is Ellah from HALLEuyah, bowing to this God and reminding you to follow the already came another comforter?


pure hypocrisy. where does it say that or your holy ghost is the devil giving you wrong details? read the thing plainly, jo and stop going to the abyss of darkness which will never benefit you.


doing what with the empty everlasting life? even 100 wives is just about not enough especially considering your pastime is boy/girl friends thingy.


just like the emphasis on God is my father while i am truly is slave/servant messenger, human prophet? such a crock.


whats the use of 1 father for a grown man who is a father or even grandfather? but he has him. so deal with 100 fathers, 100 wives, 100 mothers, 100 multiplied by each siblings.


i think you can not handle the truth. but you want the 100 homes, horses, hectares of land, etc. there will be any death after death and judgment. so the 100 promised you is to make your house fuller than full.
interesting that people did not even realize that Jesus promised them 100 houris because the wife abandoned will not be that 100 wives, but newly minted 100 wives.

truthislight: the above is fine and good.

But the fact that humans are limited as to the possible tangents that certain course of actions of theirs and the lack of hindsight can couse prevent it to be an absolute statement.
"Is it fair to all concerned?"

so meaning that without an absolute guide/moral code that takes into cognisant all possible tangent in a couse of action you are still bound to make mistakes that will not be fair to all concern at the long run.

so when that happens how do you make amends?

If after even having a way of making amends you will still find yourself in a vicious circle.

Take for instance Yahweh's laws on sex and blood, it took care of HIV/AIDS and other vd and certain kinds of diseases that human never imagine will show up in the world some 2000 years ago?

So, recognition of certain source of authority may not be irrational.

Sweetnecta: @Mee234: how did we now that the senator married an underage/prepubescent except that we know the record of major events in her life, like her birthday? how do we know how old Muhammad [sa] except that we know that he was born in the year of when the elephant army of Abraha invaded Makka. that year was 570.


so can you tell us what year was Aisha [ra] the alleged prepubescent born, considering that we know that Muhammad [sa] and Abu Bakr [ra] her father were neighbors, friends and members of same charitable organization, prophet-hood began when Muhammad [sa] was 40 in 610,


Abu Bakr and all his household including Aisha entered Islam in this same year, except the first son who was disowned on the spot and Aisha's mother who was divorced immediately while Aisha was independent enough as a child being already promised into marriage to remain with her father, instead of her mother, and her father was even willing to let her live with the family of the future husband?


Aisha's ]ra] life answered every controversy about her. Allah designed her for a purpose; a narrator of some of the aspects of the private life of her husband [sa], a man for the whole world. By her, it is agreed that a man can marry a younger wife, can remarry after end of a marriage, can marry while there is a marriage still going on with a wife, can be friendly with your spouse, dont kick her to the curb because she is on her monthly, etc


Please tell me when was Aisha [ra] born and how old was she in the 15th year of Islam of Muhammad [sa]? If her relationship was abominable like that of the senator because of being prepubescent, while the whole nation spoke against the senator, why there were no jews, christians and pagans in Makka and in Madina talking against it and it would have been a chance to disproof him? why would the pagans of Makka who were his enemies not seized this great chance to disproof him? they never stopped saying that he was enchanting them and many other form of lies about him, but they never said his Quran or his marriage or his honesty or character was less that exemplary.

Sweetnecta: @Mee234: how did we now that the senator married an underage/prepubescent except that we know the record of major events in her life, like her birthday? how do we know how old Muhammad [sa] except that we know that he was born in the year of when the elephant army of Abraha invaded Makka. that year was 570.


so can you tell us what year was Aisha [ra] the alleged prepubescent born, considering that we know that Muhammad [sa] and Abu Bakr [ra] her father were neighbors, friends and members of same charitable organization, prophet-hood began when Muhammad [sa] was 40 in 610,


Abu Bakr and all his household including Aisha entered Islam in this same year, except the first son who was disowned on the spot and Aisha's mother who was divorced immediately while Aisha was independent enough as a child being already promised into marriage to remain with her father, instead of her mother, and her father was even willing to let her live with the family of the future husband?


Aisha's ]ra] life answered every controversy about her. Allah designed her for a purpose; a narrator of some of the aspects of the private life of her husband [sa], a man for the whole world. By her, it is agreed that a man can marry a younger wife, can remarry after end of a marriage, can marry while there is a marriage still going on with a wife, can be friendly with your spouse, dont kick her to the curb because she is on her monthly, etc


Please tell me when was Aisha [ra] born and how old was she in the 15th year of Islam of Muhammad [sa]? If her relationship was abominable like that of the senator because of being prepubescent, while the whole nation spoke against the senator, why there were no jews, christians and pagans in Makka and in Madina talking against it and it would have been a chance to disproof him? why would the pagans of Makka who were his enemies not seized this great chance to disproof him? they never stopped saying that he was enchanting them and many other form of lies about him, but they never said his Quran or his marriage or his honesty or character was less that exemplary.

gst101: how many of una fit swear say una fit tell the muslims all these for real life?

gst101: how many of una fit swear say una fit tell the muslims all these for real life?

engrtee: dis should hav made front page since. I tink d moderators dont lyk d topic.may b it shud b changd.

truthislight: why not bring out the scriture and let all see.

I dont think it is all christians that have the believe that all rightiouse people will go to heaven.

There are those that have the belief that some "people will go to heaven while some people will have their reward of eternal life here on an earthly paradise" just like the one Adam lost.

mkmyers45: Looking objectively we aren't talking about notion but facts so your initial assertion is ambiguous and incorrect

ijawkid: It seems u never read d scriptures I quoted.....