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deSika: Do you wonder why an 'us' creator becomes an 'i' creator

When a commission or a minister does a job, it is The governor or head of state that takes the glory.

Jesus was only ask to do something by Yahweh. Dazz all!

deSika: good,we are getting there. You can call Jesus mighty God, now pls go to isaiah 10:21 and tell me who is mighty God there.

yes, i can call Jesus mighty God.

I can call my belly God:

"Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)" (Philippians 3:19).

I can go ahead and call satan god:

The god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:4).

Add more ^ to your urges for multiple gods worship.

If you still need more i will give them to you.

But for me, it is only one Yahweh. QED

dont mind him, he does not even know that the word God is a title.

ijawkid: @benalvino

But Jesus was called angleos of the covenant.....didn't we point it out to you in some other thread??......



And did isaiah and john tell you Jesus is the one GOD to us??......

Read those verses and tell me who is your GOD.....

You would have to choose who your God is...

Is it the Father alone or some 3 persons??.........


We have answered this your question tire.......

Many persons are called Gods not because they created the world or because they are the Father or because they are even the God of people..........

I don tire for youuuuuuuuu.......

Anyway, i have decided to add to his collection of Gods:

"Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things." (Philippians 3:19).

@benalvino

Add that ^ to your Gods collections.

Smh for you.

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let me put on my glasses to read this post cause it has the name Joe Dollars written on it.



Ok, i did not see Dollars(tithe) yet.

But i will keep on the look out though.

With Joe, you just cant tell.

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deSika: if you cant understand it. then your case is really serious. settle down and read it again. you would definitely see why christians say there is a more than person about God, and you would really see the identity of the people. peace

More than one person during creation or more that one God ?
= 3gods.




what about more than three (3) gods ?

all in your head and not stated so in the bible.

Thoniameek: What qualifies one to referred to as a 'person'?... Will, ability to decern, feelings and all of that. The holy spirit has all that just christ, that was what made peter say ' if lie to the holy spirit we do the same as lieing to God'... If you get me?

You are using your word picture to paint what peter said.

Peter said that they lied against the holy spirit, simple.

That is because they had been approved by Yahweh and were led by him, and the means that Yahweh does this leading is via his spirit, his power.

That same power is what Yahweh gave to Jesus christ after his baptism to help him do his work.

Going against that power is going against Yahweh and not another different person.

Peace.

ijawkid: Those 3 can't be one GOD because not even a scripture supports it...

The one GOD is one person the Father....

You see that you are still deluded??....

Show us from the scripture where the one GOD to us is 3 persons and not the Father alone.....

Show us an expicit verse not jump around the title GOD.....

How can they show you in the bible ?

Did they use the bible to arrived at their 3gods ?

deSika: young man, what you need to do for me is to tell me that when i sin against the holyghost am not sinning against God, when am lieing afainst the holyspirit am not lieing against God,when am calling the holyghst am not calling God. if you cannot do this, then sit down and ask yourself some questions

and pls when you say God is a spirit is he an action. thank you

Blame your confussion on your (3) gods and not me.

Am not confuse with that statement by peter.

You want to fixe 3gods in any where you see perceived space in the bible.

deSika: good, if they were many doing the creation, why did the person speaking not continually use we made you, we made you, why did he now say he alone created man. why the sudden change

he says let us go down then the next minute the bible says He went down. he says let us create, then next minute he says aand i made.

its all there all the answers you are looking for my friend. the 'us' is the same with the 'i'. that is why i say why i say the one God is an 'i' God yet he has an 'us' personality. he is 'i', he is 'us' also. are yu cleared

Jesus christ is Yahweh's master worker.

When Jesus had finished doing what the father had asked him to do, the father claimed he has done it.

Just like whatever a commisioner does is claimed by the goernor of the state.

Dont confused yourself.

deSika: isaiah 9:6 and his name shall be called mighty God.

truthislight can you call the messiah mighty God

Why not, Jesus is a mighty God, a powerful God.

Yahweh is the almighty God.

The God of Jesus and my one and only God.

Satan is the god of this debased world that will soon pass a away.

Why cant i call Jesus a mighty God is he not powerful ? Yes he is.

deSika: your answer is staring at you here. you say i should show you from sciptures who my God is. Peter says if am lieing to the Holyspirit am lieing to God. If am worshipping holyspirit am worshipping God, if am calling on the holyspirit am calling on God, if am praying to the holyspirit am praying to God, if am sinning against the holyspirit am sinning against God.

does it help yu with the answer yu want

See this one!

Is the holy spirit a person ? Show me where the bible says the holy spirit is a person like it says about Yahweh and Jesus christ.

If a government gave me authority to act and am accused of lying against the government, does that make the government a person ?

See your life!

Thoniameek: Na wa o.... Na only one God we get o( drop the trinity ish) it isn't mentioned in the bible for crying out loud!!! If i pray mentioning the holy spirit or Jesus christ, i know am refering to God Almighty(YHWH) because they're his actions and having a will of their own( just like human, we have a will of own too, just like satan) but his 'actions' are working together to his will... It all boils down to us having one God, only one God! Abeg na... Make una agree na.. Abeg! Say na one God we get, ABEG!!! *crying*

lol:

You just make me laugh when i been dey provoke.

Jesus christ is a person, but the Holy spirit in no where in the bible is called a person.

Guy, you funny die.

deSika: answering question with question.
pls answer mine, why did he say let us and then say i made, did they persons he was talking to not join him in the creation

You dont know the name of your god, but you like a one way train wants to start arguing about "let us make man in our image",

how can that ^ be the name of your god ?

Yes, you worship multiple gods, not one God.

Should not the truth be written all over scriptures ? No, you will always deduced from "let us make man in our image" as though your god is hidden in the bible, na wa for you o!

Smh. You should be ashamed of yourself and your hidden god.

Nonsense!

benalvino: The Word God is not a title... The other 2 meaning are related to idols... Bible said God is a nature that's why there is only one.

"the word god is not a title"

That ^ does not deserved a debate on.

deSika: my God is the father,the son and the holyghost. His name is Yahweh

See them ^, Worshpers of multiple gods.

benalvino: Are you sure... It says all the gods of the people are idols...

why Yahweh is being worship in spirit without images, the nations makes use of statues to worship their gods = images/statues = idol

but Yahweh rejects such ^.

Satan does not seat on physically seat on their thrones as idol cause he is a spirit person.

But he accepts those ^ statues and images.

benalvino: When the bible says whether tthere are socalled gods in heaven and earth... Now in the case of heaven is it talking about woods image or spirits like Satan?

the gods of the nations be it in the sea or heavens have physical images that symbolised them.

Satan is a spirit and cannot seat on physical thrones but via statues and imag he is being worship.

That you want to call satan a statue is your cup of tea.

deSika: is jesus your mighty god

The word God is a title.

And in this title "God" Jesus is highly rank = powerful God.

But the most powerful God is the father = Yahweh.

benalvino: let the bible be your dictionary...
For all the gods of the peoples are idols, but the LORD made the heavens." (1 Chronicles 16:26).

Thats ^ a reference to statues that are used in the worship of Demons and satan.

Satan himself is not statue.

Satan goes about like a lion , satan talked to God, satan tempted Jesus christ.

Jesus and Yahweh are not deluded that you can know more than them.

Satan is a person, trinity is pushing you to lie so that you can defend a lie.

deSika: so if activity of holyspirit is equal to Yahweh in action, are we not saying same thing.

No, we are not saying the same thing.

You call the Holy spirit a person and the doing of a different person.

I see it as an action of Yahweh and not two person.

deSika: In the end you arrive at holyspirit being God and not an idol

Yahweh is the person and not his action.

I am the person and not my actions.

benalvino: What do you understand by the word idol? If you worship light it becomes and idol... You worship radio frequency it becomes an idol. If you call anything that is not God god that thing is idol.

Idol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idol
An idol is an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.

An idol is an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idol


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Satan is a spirit person just as Jesus is a spirit person.

But the stone or paper of Jesus or satan used for worship is an idol but they are real persons and not stones or paper.

There is a difference between idol and idolatry.

So, calling satan an "idol" is misleading.

benalvino: Lol... You funny o... How did you come about that? Bible says God will destroy any God that did not form the earth...

Anything you worship that is not God is an idol... Abeg has any wood or snake that is being worshipped in India ever asked people to worship them?

Any entity that receives worshipful honor is a god.

God = title

benalvino: answered this long ago... When I said

Their is one God that operate in 3 distinctive ways. Father son and holyspirit

that ^ is not an answer.

WHO IS YOUR GOD ? Who ?

Dont write a sentence and call it your God.

benalvino: good... Now you left the TRUE God FALSE God and in between god... You want to cling on figurative and also use same statement against Jesus... Do people worship Satan? Yes and the Satan they worship is the idols they make them selves...

Jesus being God was worshipped rev 5:12 24 elders in heaven worshipped Jesus and this can only happen if he is not idle... So the bottom line is... Is God allowing idolatry to happen in heaven?

The father says he will destroy those gods who didnt create the heaven and earth... Am still asking if he will destroy us all by your logic.

Bible made it clear that Jesus is God by nature... No where does it say we are God by nature except men making us gods which is bad.

Anything else are idols.

@benalvino

Is satan an Idol or a spirit person ? ( is satan an idol like stone wood mountain and iron ?)

ijawkid: You are the dancer here.....

So satan now called God is a figurative statement,but when Jesus is called it is real....abi.........

So you even know what figurative means...uh??.......

1...You have denied completely that God never called and pronounced men God(s)....

2...You are also denying that or maybe accusing the scriptures for calling or refering to angels as "EL"......


You have a long way to go bro......

And please answer this my question so that at least I fit know if you and the babylonians no be cousins.....


WHO IS YOUR GOD??...

@benlvino
WHO IS YOUR GOD??

deSika: my God is the one who says "let us make" yet says "i made". does that help you

Lol. ^

You are confused, you dont know your God.

benalvino: @ ijawkid
the verse clearly states is only one God of this earth N beneath

For argument sake U went as far as saying mountain snake rats are gods lmao...

the word God/god is a title just as Lord/lord is a title.

There was no capitalisation in Herews/greek writings.

deSika: I guess Peter must also be a trinitarian in acts 5:3,4. He called the holyspirit God. He said when we lie to the Holyspirit we are lieing to God. Could Peter be talking about us lieing to "a non one God"

No peter is not.

The activity of the Holy spirit is a reference to Yahweh in action.

The holy spirit operational in the disciples was from God and as such, their lying/going against the leading of the holy spirit in them is lying against Yahweh, the one whose power was leading them.

deSika: one thing is for sure, the bible don try for people like u. E b like say the bible know say people like u go say Jesus na God just like me and u na God, him con quick quick add 'mighty' to Jesus own God so u no go say him na the same level of god him be with satan and angels.

same way that the bible calls the father almighty God and Jesus mighty God:

"And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." (Exodus 6:3).

And Jesus :

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

deSika: By the way u have some yet to be attended issues on my thread

Your thread has been properly dealt with, Jesus had blood in him as such was not a spirit person. Chiken

deSika: I guess Peter must also be a trinitarian in acts 5:3,4. He called the holyspirit God. He said when we lie to the Holyspirit we are lieing to God. Could Peter be talking about us lieing to "a non one God"

No peter is not.

The activity of the Holy spirit is a reference to Yahweh in action.

The holy spirit operational in the disciples was from God and as such, their lying/going against the leading of the holy spirit in them is lying against Yahweh, the one whose power was leading them.

deSika: one thing is for sure, the bible don try for people like u. E b like say the bible know say people like u go say Jesus na God just like me and u na God, him con quick quick add 'mighty' to Jesus own God so u no go say him na the same level of god him be with satan and angels.

same way that the bible calls the father almighty God and Jesus mighty God:

"And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." (Exodus 6:3).

And Jesus :

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

deSika: By the way u have some yet to be attended issues on my thread

Your thread has been properly dealt with, Jesus had blood in him as such was not a spirit person. Chikena

benalvino: Know when the bible is being figurative... Satan is not the god of this world and here is why

Deuteronomy 4:35-39
Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (v.35)
The LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. (v.39)

The God of earth is jahovah that's why we worship him...

If Satan is the god of earth then it should be ok to worship him... But the bible teaches that there is only one God of this world who is Jehovah... Satan is no different from the woods that people call gods but they are not gods.

The thing is God said he will destroy any socalled gods that didn't create the heaven and earth.

Jeremiah 10:11
The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

Question is will all of us as gods as you say perish?

Any of the other Gods/gods that is demanding the worship that belongs to Yahweh like Demons and satan will be destroyed.

Meanwhile, you have not answered this question:


WHO IS YOUR GOD??

ijawkid: @benalvino

Shaking my damn head .............

Psalm 82:6
King James Bible (Cambridge
Ed.)
I have said, Ye are gods; and all of
you are children of the most High.



Jesus is not my God just as satan is not my God...........I don't believe in Jesus as my GOD.......


I remain a monotheist..........

You can go struggle with yourself if you're a polytheist or not......

Don't drag me into the debauched situation of trinitarians who are so confused as to who there God is.....

I ask you again.....

WHO IS YOUR GOD??

^^


WHO IS YOUR GOD??

ijawkid: @benalvino

And answer my question so that I would no if you and the egyptians who worshipped triad Gods are not the same.....

WHO IS YOUR GOD??.......

Have you answered this ^ question that has been following you ?

Oga, answer now, WHO IS YOUR GOD ?

Dont be ashamed of mentioning your God.

chukwudi44: I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.-Revelation 22:18-19, NASB

This statement was given by Christ at the end of the final revelation given to man. This was done, I believe, intentionally in order to make it known that revelation is closed. If revelation is open, then this statement is nullified. Whether one believes that these verses apply only to the book of Revelation or to the whole of Scripture, if someone receives new revelation then they are adding to or taking away from the book. This is because they are promoting “revelation” that adds to or takes away from what is written in the book of Revelation and Scripture, including the gospel, theology, and prophecy. One must ask why Jesus would condemn anyone who takes away from or adds to the book if revelation is open. If revelation is open, then Jesus’ statement is nullified. However, this statement stands true and closes revelation.

Frosbel that passage applies to just the book of Revelation,the bible did not exist until almost 300 years after that book was written.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16).

even in the law that was given to moses, God had warned moses not to add to it.

How then do we imagined that God never had a plan !