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macof: There's all the evidence for a creator, but there's no evidence for any GodDoes Jesus exist? History supports there was a man named Jesus that came over 2000 years ago. Infact our calendar is made after him. Who was his sender and what was he sent for? |
I strongly believe the quran cannot be the word of God. It is not a confirmation of the existing revelations before it and infact, it contradicts them. Besides, it was only Muhammad who claimed he received the revelations without anyone receiving same, and to make matters worse, he had no miracles to prove his claim. So it is lacking evidence. |
The OP is full of intelligent points. Every sound mind is tempted to ask such questions. But as humans, there are certain things that are beyond our knowledge and comprehension. You don't make judgement based on the statement from one party. If God were to respond to the points raised, am so sure we shall all be speechless. There are many events in our world that prove the existence of God. If you don't believe in miracles, which is the manifestion of the supernatural, you must believe there is dream, which science has not been able to explain. As for the questions we shall understand them better when we get to Him. |
Islam is a religion of peace, saying no will attract death penalty. |
tpia@:Do you know Jesus? You cannot give what you don't have. |
[quote author=truthman2012]Dead Sea Scroll, Constantnople and more if there are, are not capable of invalidating the bible. They are philosophies of men. They are confusions introduced by the Devil to invalidate the bible but the awesome power of the word of God as contained in the bible cannot be invalidated by such Satan's devices. You seem not to have read all my posts in this thread. I narrated the story of how I was delivered from death following food poisoning, which even Muhamad could not escape. So many doctors tried their best but to no avail, not untill I prayed in a night vigil in the name of Jesus and the poison disappeared at once. Not a gradual healing, it happened at once. This is one of the evidences that Jesus is real and the bible as we have it now is the truth. It could be true that people act miracles, but real miracles exist because many miracles have occurred in my life personally as a result of prayers in Jesus name. I have also prayed for people with miracles following. It is true many pastors obtain mystic power from the Devil to do magic, not miracle. Miracle is of God. This is not strange because Jesus said there will be false prophets and truly there are. People can do anything to get money. But note that there can be no counterfeit if there is no original because counterfeit is an inferior copy of the original. There are original miracles. |
[quote author=truthman2012]What is real in the guidance of the quran? What other proof do you need to be convinced that islam is false? For the purpose of emphacy let us think of it again: God separated Ishmael from Abraham. He said Isaac was the only son He recorgnized and He encouraged Abraham not to grieve about Ishmael being sent away. Not only that, He said His COVENANT was with Isaac alone. Is that not clear enough that God cannot appoint a prophet from the descent of Ishmael? How could God pick a prophet from his children when He no more recorgnised him. Be truthful to yourself at least for once. Please note that the history was not written in opposition to islam because not only had it not existed at that time, nobody could conceive it would come. |
truthman2012: 1. Fast growth of islam is a sign that it is the broad way. But narrow is the way that leads to heaven and only a few people are on it. |
vedaxcool: May Allah the creator grant u real guidance and forgive u your errors. Amin.What is real in the guidance of the quran? What other proof do you need to be convinced that islam is false? For the purpose of emphacy let us think of it again: God separated Ishmael from Abraham. He said Isaac was the only son He recorgnized and He encouraged Abraham not to grieve about Ishmael being sent away. Not only that, He said His COVENANT was with Isaac alone. Is that not clear enough that God cannot appoint a prophet from the descent of Ishmael? How could God pick a prophet from his children when He no more recorgnised him. Be truthful to yourself at least for once. Please note that the history was not written in opposition to islam because not only had it not existed at that time, nobody could conceive it would come. |
vedaxcool: Cease fire! Cease fire!! Cease fire!!!O jare. Thank you. How can you feel sorry for me when I witness the power of God everyday? Did you read my testimonies above? Can you say the same for yourself? When you had problem last, how did you get it solved? Making contacts with muslim jinns (demon) through Arabic charms? Such activities will give room for demons to live inside you and will make you bitter against spiritual truth. Let me give you a testimony: a man was sick and was about giving up, but luckily a Christian sister who was on hospital evangelism approached him to tell him about Jesus. The dying man was very furious and hissed on her. The lady felt he might be under demonic influence and she shouted loud and cast away the demon in the name of Jesus. Immediately, the man looked at the sister and asked ''what did you say'' then she repeated her message of salvation. Then the man said show me your Jesus and eventually he accepted Jesus. A moment later he died. What a lucky man. So when people hate salvation through Jesus, it is a spiritual bondage that requires deliverance in Jesus name. I still pray for you that God in His mercy shall deliver you in Jesus name. Say amen to that. |
larrymoore: From ur post I can see that u know nothing about how the bible came to existence, google as well be a medium to educate yourself. What about the 'Dead Sea Scroll' that was later discovered around 323AC.Dead Sea Scroll, Constantnople and more if there are, are not capable of invalidating the bible. They are philosophies of men. They are confusions introduced by the Devil to invalidate the bible but the awesome power of the word of God as contained in the bible cannot be invalidated by such Satan's devices. You seem not to have read all my posts in this thread. I narrated the story of how I was delivered from death following food poisoning, which even Muhamad could not escape. So many doctors tried their best but to no avail, not untill I prayed in a night vigil in the name of Jesus and the poison disappeared at once. Not a gradual healing, it happened at once. This is one of the evidences that Jesus is real and the bible as we have it now is the truth. It could be true that people act miracles, but real miracles exist because many miracles have occurred in my life personally as a result of prayers in Jesus name. I have also prayed for people with miracles following. It is true many pastors obtain mystic power from the Devil to do magic, not miracle. Miracle is of God. This is not strange because Jesus said there will be false prophets and truly there are. People can do anything to get money. But note that there can be no counterfeit if there is no original because counterfeit is an inferior copy of the original. There are original miracles. |
truthman2012: Your statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words? |
larrymoore: @thruthman u know nothing of the christianity u claimed to defend. Go back and read the old testament, there after look at some of the muslims prectice. If in ur oponion, islam copy the bible, it is so because God is one, he inspired the revelation of bible so is the quran.What do you mean by muslim practice in the old testament? Washing of hands? I have said times without number on this medium that what we see in the OT is not the muslim ablution because they never washed noise, mouth, head etc at the same time. Even the hand they washed was not preparatory to prayer facing Kaaba or anywhere. May I tell you islam is a double conterfeit: firstly, it attempts to fake judaism and secondly judaism itself had been phased out by Jesus. Jesus said I will build my CHURCH and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it. The church has replaced judaism. It is the doctrine of the Devil that the bible is corrupt. No book of the bible is missing, no misinterpretation at all. Their is nothing like that in reality. The Devil said so to establish his own religion, islam. The words of the bible is still effective till today. Many testimonies happen practising the bible as it is now. Can you get miracles practising what is corrupt or misinterpreted? Even the muslims who claim they have allah's direct words have nothing to show for it in terms of miracles. Have you seen where the blind see calling the name of allah or quoting a quranic verse? It never can happen. Only Jesus can do that among his children. The Christian may be divided on the person of Jesus. It is a matter of individual opinion or belief. Angel Gabriel told Mary her child shall be called the SON of God. God spoke from heaven ''this is my beloveth SON in whom I am well pleased''. You can see here what God wants us to know about the identity of Jesus. If anybody calls him any other thing, that is the person's problem, he probably knows better than God. Muslims too are divided over their faith too. You have the sunni, shia and other sects. Their own division is so bad that they do kill one another. Isn't it? |
ecosanders: Coming from someone who believe God is 3 in 1, Jesus is God and Jesus is d son of God. Well thank God u admit Islam is growing fast. U can go hug a wet transformer, ur false allegations and retardness will never stop Islam from growing.1. Fast growth of islam is a sign that it is the broad way. But narrow is the way that leads to heaven and only a few people are on it. 2. You said the allegations supported by clear evidences are false? Prove your assertion. |
truthman2012: You goofed here, your quote is wrong. It is not 3:5 but 5:3. |
tpia@:Well, this may be my last talking with you on this subject. 1. Why should muslims attack the Christians when no lie is told against them? 2. Why are Christians not attacking the muslims when their book, quran attacks the very foundation of Christians' faith? 3. Other non-Christian religions don't have written documents that can be referred to and no particular prophets claiming to have come from God. 4. I notice you keep dodging my challenge that you should point out what is not the truth in the writeup but your responses keep being abuses. YOU CANNOT WIN YOUR WAR AGAINST THE TRUTH. Winning against the TRUTH is SELF-DECEPTION. |
Mintayo: @Op,nice thread,you have said the truth,satan is very deceptive,using different ways and means but the foundation of the Lord is sure,He knows those that are His.My brother, how na? Quite some days. I love your contribution, God bless you. |
truthman2012: You goofed here, your quote is wrong. It is not 3:5 but 5:3. |
tpia@:Nobody needs to tell anybody that you are very bitter from your choice of writing. You must be deceiving yourself to say you are not. Are you new on nairaland? So you haven't seen threads against Christianity? My friend, I can see that you hate the truth. Up till now you and others like you cannot point out what is not the truth in the write-up. Then what is your anger about? That the truth is said about your religion? The word of God says you shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set you free. In other words ignorance of, knowing or seeing the TRUTH and failing to accept it is spiritual bondage. You will have no excuse before God that you were not told. People will curse their false religion in HELLFIRE and that is why it is unreasonable to still stick to one's religion after discovering it is false. Such stand will bring everlasting regret. I pray that will not be your portion in Jesus name, amen. |
truthman2012: Your statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words? |
LibertyRep: No sir, I beg to disagree with you. Jesus was REVERED and not WORSHIPPED by the three wise men or any other persons whille still living. Had they done that, he would av bn put to death for heresy by the Jews way back before his fated crucifixion( the same charges that were later cooked up to have him dead anyways)The bible never says they revered Jesus, it says they worshiped him: Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother and FELL DOWN and WORSHIPED him....... The story of Jesus cruxifixion was not cooked up. Jesus Himself said He would die: John 12: 7 Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my BURYING hath she kept this. The question therefore is: was He to be buried alive? This is one of the lies of the quran that Jesus didn't die but disappeared. |
truthman2012: Firsly, Jesus is not only worshiped after his death, he was worshiped in his lifetime, even as a baby (Matthew 2:11). The first people who worshiped Jesus were not ordinary people, they were WISE men. It is only the WISE that worship Jesus till today. |
LibertyRep: If u are aware that the idolatry of early Romans was fused into christianity which is still in practice til today, why then do you condemn other pple's faith for such things ?Firsly, Jesus is not only worshiped after his death, he was worshiped in his lifetime, even as a baby (Matthew 2:11). The first people who worshiped Jesus were not ordinary people, they were WISE men. It is only the WISE that worship Jesus till today. Secondly, it was not Paul who founded the church, it was Jesus. Jesus said I will build MY CHURCH and the gate of hell shall not prevail against it (Mat. 16:18). The disciples were only used to build the church of Christ. Inside the church are the Christians. Know this today that whatever God does the Devil does the counterfeit. This is the reason people worship Sango, Ogun, Osun etc. It is not in line with the gospel to leave people with their false religion. The essence of the gospel is to direct them to the true God. |
ona2: the simple truth you just hit here my brother. Salvation can only come by accepting JESUS CHRIST as our PERSONAL LORD and SAVIOUR WITHOUT WHICH NO ONE can get to HEAVEN. very simple. even a chruch goer who has no personal relationship with Christ can never smell heaven, not to talk of the others.You are right brother. God bless you. |
tpia@:What is your problem? Why are you bitter with the truth? Point out what is untrue in the writeup. If you cannot then why are you bitter? None of the islamic apologists could point out any lie. All they have done including you is abuses. Do you people want the truth to continue hidden? I sometime listen to muslims preach on radio and television. They don't have any other message than oppossing the Christians. That pleases you, abi? You haven't seen anything yet. |
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. Jesus loved the people but he condemned the Pharicees and Saducees for their wrong belief, he even said woe unto them. |
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. |
ayenny02: Oh! I made a mistake I will edit it. Alhamdulilah, you know the verse from d Quran by urself, have u ever seen that statement from any other religion book except in the Quran, can u bring such from ur book? Capital NOWhat truth are you saying the Christians know about islam? I am saying loud and clear that islam is spiritual deception and I provided indisputable evidences. Those evidences are still there, you can go through them again. Where did you get the truth in islam? Point it out: Is it the deception that Abraham and Ishmael built Kaaba? Is it the idolaterous worship, worshiping the idol in Muhammad's family? Is it the demonic revelations received by Muhammad, falling down unconscious, bearing revelations with great trouble, sweating like came? Is it the pressing of Muhammad by Gabriel three times almost to death point, which is an obvious sign of violence and demonic oppression? Tell me the truth you are talking about in islam. |
truthman2012: Your statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words? |
Dap07: and the OP has refused to answer my questions..I later thought about your questions and discovered they have no basis in the Bible. They are philosophy of men. Thank you. |
ayenny02: Oh! I made a mistake I will edit it. Alhamdulilah, you know the verse from d Quran by urself, have u ever seen that statement from any other religion book except in the Quran, can u bring such from ur book? Capital NOYour statements here is full of ignorance, or did you make them because you are short of words? Ogun laye, aye ogun. Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Are all these not the reality of life? Tell me, what is the work of your alfas who prepare Arabian charms for people? Is it not for solution from the unseen forces? They try to use demonic power to free people from Ogun Oso, Ogun Aje. Is Aye not Aye Ogun now? There is no true power from any other source than Jesus. This is the reason your prophet could not do any miracles. He could not cure ordinary fever, he told the person to take zamzam water from zamzam well dug by his grandpa, Mutallib, a devotee of the Devil. You don't get healing if you have no faith in the healer. Jesus said ''be it unto you according to your faith''. Jesus was going about healing all manners of sickness, yet not all the sick got their healing. Be it unto you according to your faith. When I was still a Bank Officer, I went to eat one morning before work. Not quite one hour after eating a serious problem started. I felt my intestines were severely tied up. I could not swallow solid food again. I was in excruciating pains. I went to so many hospitals and the many doctors tried their best but no solution. Then I thought I would die. It was in a night vigil I reported the case to Jesus in prayer. After the night vigil at around 4 am I went to sleep in my car before going home. It appeared nothing had happened after the prayer but I didn't know when I slept off. By the time I woke up, no traces of the problem again. It was not even a gradual healing, it happened at once. What do you think had happened? Miracle. If some people don't receive miracle, the fault is not Jesus' but themselves. Be it unto you according to your faith. Jesus is alive doing miracles. |
ayenny02: @OP, I believe one day u will hug d transformer about islam, don't worry very soon u will commit suicide when u see ur pastors convert to islam.You goofed here, your quote is wrong. It is not 3:5 but 5:3. You have raised another questionable point. ....''THIS DAY I have perfected your religion for you''. Can't you see deception in that statement? If allah actually perfected islam for muslim on the day he made that remark, why did he continue to give more instructions after that day? Did he forget something? The falsehood of islam has been hidden for ages past, but thank God for the internet. Those pastors or Christians who believe in islam as God's religion are ignorant of the falsehood of it hence this type of my crusade. As the Lord lives many shall be delivered from the claws of satanic deception called islam. Wait a minute: you are no more active as usual. Your rubber bullets have been exhausted? When you were firing everyday, I told one of your muslim brothers, evilvirus by name on NL that what you have is rubber bullets and would soon be finished. Am I not right now? |
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